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Maybe superfluous, but this is an idea I had for a launcher. This is inspired by the lens-eye feature from the excellent Comic Reader Mobile found on this forum.
- First picture shows standard launcher screen with lots and lots of really small icons. Small enough that hopefully all your programs fit on this screen.
- Second picture shows screen-area that is pressed.
- Third picture shows a lens that enlarges the icons close to where has been pressed.
This way any program in this launcher is 2 quick presses away. No more scrolling, no more having to leave icons out of a category because of space constraints.
Is this worthwhile?
If you want my opinion I think your idea is fast to launch items but slow to find them. I know that after some time playing with it, if you already know where it is you will launch it fast but....
I have another proposal for you . For my app I've done a couple of widgets that I call Bubbles (see attachment). The "flower" is initially closed and if you hold your finger in the middle it opens showing the icons surrounding, then draging your finger and releasing it over the desired icon you launch the app. thsi way if you are capable of grouping the apps into categories (grames, programs, comm, profiles, etc) you can access all those options with only one tap & hold .
I liked it, maybe a round lens with an animation will be more attractive
..sure, with dx 10 effects for your htc phones.
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nice idea, sunra, but menus seems generally better, than today launchers...like quickmenu i.e...
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I liked it, maybe a round lens with an animation will be more attractive
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Haha, it is certainly not meant to look like this! I had the look and feeling of the lens system of Comic Reader in mind.
APBilbo, your system is really nice. Our systems look alike. I want to ask you if you have any programs where you're not sure in what category you like to place them?
Nothin, could you explain why menu's seem better to you?
it is hard to explain - quick menu revised my today plugins, so i do not need to waste today space, menu is fast method with small mem usage.
i know, htc is promoting its ****ty stuff and many users got it, but there are other options, luckily....
i like claunch, tho(tap on empty space shuffles to next hm, tab"..).
claunch is nice but...
a programm launcher like the scrollbar in manila would be nice... as homeplugin...
it would be nice ... because you can insert lot of programs
8x8 icons with claunch(as line with 18 px height) is not enough?
i said, that i am using many tabs in that 1 line - tap on EMPTY space moves to another one, do i need to see ALL icons at once?
nope.
my rom contains ~60-70 applications i've added to rom, besides system ones, you know
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keep loving your manila's, guys...
ehhh.
It's called a ZUI my friend, a Zooming User Interface
To be honest, I like it, but I think only one level of zoom should be required. Too many clicks otherwise.
Chuck in some decent kinetic scrolling for if there were too many items to fit on the screen, and you're on to a winner!
Might have a look-see to see how hard she'll be to whip up a prototype...
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I'd like to prevent my notifications and program "badges" (can't think of the proper word!) From stacking up in my notification bar at the top of the screen.
It happens when i have a lot of icons there already, ie wifi, alarm etc. Despite there being plenty of room in the middle of the bar, my notifications all stack into one icon on the extreme left hand side with the number of different programs/notifications shown as a number.
Is there a way to prevent this behaviour and force android to use all the available space on the notification bar?
I'm running Ion r2 on my Dream, although my phone has always done this, with the stock rom and JF 1.5 as well.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
Sure, keep the number of notifications low and they won't stack. They stack when you run out of space on the bar. I know you think that there's lots of space, but if you unstack them, rest assured that there are definitely too many to fit in the space available.
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I'd like to prevent my notifications and program "badges" (can't think of the proper word!) From stacking up in my notification bar at the top of the screen.
It happens when i have a lot of icons there already, ie wifi, alarm etc. Despite there being plenty of room in the middle of the bar, my notifications all stack into one icon on the extreme left hand side with the number of different programs/notifications shown as a number.
Is there a way to prevent this behaviour and force android to use all the available space on the notification bar?
I'm running Ion r2 on my Dream, although my phone has always done this, with the stock rom and JF 1.5 as well.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer!
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Unfortunatly there is no forseen solution to this problem. I experience it as well. I think the best we can hope for are new phones with higher resolutions.
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Sure, keep the number of notifications low and they won't stack. They stack when you run out of space on the bar. I know you think that there's lots of space, but if you unstack them, rest assured that there are definitely too many to fit in the space available.
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This isn't right. There is definitely space for 4 more icons, yet it stacks with just 2.
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This isn't right. There is definitely space for 4 more icons, yet it stacks with just 2.
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I'm on Ionr2 and I have 4 icons (email, Toggle Settings, Twidroid, USB) on the left side before the stacking starts. I'm not sure if it's gone up to 5 or not.
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I'm on Ionr2 and I have 4 icons (email, Toggle Settings, Twidroid, USB) on the left side before the stacking starts. I'm not sure if it's gone up to 5 or not.
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When the phone is in portrait mode it stacks when there are more than 2 items on the left hand side - even though there is space for more items. When in landscape, it shows all the notifications/app icons individually.
Very annoying, since the home screen will only display in portrait mode and wont auto rotate when the phone is turned.
Im convinced there must be something i can do to fix this issue!
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When the phone is in portrait mode it stacks when there are more than 2 items on the left hand side - even though there is space for more items. When in landscape, it shows all the notifications/app icons individually.
Very annoying, since the home screen will only display in portrait mode and wont auto rotate when the phone is turned.
Im convinced there must be something i can do to fix this issue!
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I was talking about portrait mode. I'm pretty sure there's a fix since I do not have this problem. However, my home screen does rotate though, since I have dxTop.
Do you happen to have Quick Calendar installed? Even though Quick Calendar did not display a little icon on the top for each item in the list and only say in my "ongoing" area on the bar, when I removed it the stacking you talk about went away! It was driving me crazy too, but it seems like either Quick Calendar or the OS sees each entry, even though it doesn't have an icon and counts them.
Not sure if it will help you, but my phone has been working properly after I disabled Quick Calendar. It's a shame, I like the app. :-/
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Do you happen to have Quick Calendar installed? Even though Quick Calendar did not display a little icon on the top for each item in the list and only say in my "ongoing" area on the bar, when I removed it the stacking you talk about went away! It was driving me crazy too, but it seems like either Quick Calendar or the OS sees each entry, even though it doesn't have an icon and counts them.
Not sure if it will help you, but my phone has been working properly after I disabled Quick Calendar. It's a shame, I like the app. :-/
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Genius! Removing Quick Calendar solved the problem - thanks!
I've put a link to this thread at the devs website - perhaps when he has solved the issue he could let us know, so we can go back to using his otherwise useful app.
Never had this type of problem, only thing is that my colors blend together because of the custom theme I am using >.<
Ok, I confirmed with the developer this morning, it is QuickCal, though I guess any other app that hides icons would also have this problem as it is a restriction in the os. Jim (the developer) works for google and plans to petition his employer to make some changes to the way the notify bar works. The os allows the developer to 'hide' notification icons, but they still take up an invisible space.
We should see an update in the next couple of days to make a nicer widget with more info and smaller font size, so this may satisfy me if the widget is decent.
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Ok, I confirmed with the developer this morning, it is QuickCal, though I guess any other app that hides icons would also have this problem as it is a restriction in the os. Jim (the developer) works for google and plans to petition his employer to make some changes to the way the notify bar works. The os allows the developer to 'hide' notification icons, but they still take up an invisible space.
We should see an update in the next couple of days to make a nicer widget with more info and smaller font size, so this may satisfy me if the widget is decent.
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Awesome - I already miss QuickCal and I only uninstalled it yesterday!
Is the home screen shown in all of the Aria pics the full Sense UI or not?
See the pics below of the Aria with Android and another HTC Windows Mobile phone with Sense.
Can the Aria be made to look like the WM Sense?
Why would you replace HTC's BEAUTIFUL OS with crappy, ugly WM... It's pointless and unethical!
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Why would you replace HTC's BEAUTIFUL OS with crappy, ugly WM... It's pointless and unethical!
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I'm not replacing the OS; one point of getting the Aria is the Android. I'm asking about the Android Sense vs. the WM Sense. I like all of the information immediately available on the Sense found on my WM phone and want to see if the Android Sense is configurable in the same way.
For example, can scheduled Calendar events appear on the Android Sense home screen? Or Call History? Or the Quick Links?
In other words, is the Android Sense the same as the WM Sense?
Yes. It will look slightly different, but you can put in a calender widget that will take up one row on the home screen. Below that you have room for one row of icons or another single line widget. So my current home screen has the clock with weather, then calender, then icons for messages, email, camera, and internet.
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Yes. It will look slightly different, but you can put in a calender widget that will take up one row on the home screen. Below that you have room for one row of icons or another single line widget. So my current home screen has the clock with weather, then calender, then icons for messages, email, camera, and internet.
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That's a great clarification. So, to be sure I understand, the Calendar widget isn't just an icon, but an actual description of the calendar event that is scheduled? Is there a single line widget for Call History too? And I assume the row of four icons is customizable?
And is there a scroll-up feature in which more Quick Links can appear? If not, how are the apps you use most accessed?
Is it possible to have Quick Links on the Home screen to people I call the most with an photo icon of that person?
There is no tab slider like on the WM Sense?
How do Missed Calls and Voicemail appears on the Home screen?
Sorry for the many questions, but I really like the WM Sense and want to make an informed decision about the Aria.
Much appreciated.
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That's a great clarification. So, to be sure I understand, the Calendar widget isn't just an icon, but an actual description of the calendar event that is scheduled? Is there a single line widget for Call History too? And I assume the row of four icons is customizable?
And is there a scroll-up feature in which more Quick Links can appear? If not, how are the apps you use most accessed?
Finally, there is no tab slider like on the WM Sense?
How do Missed Calls and Voicemail appears on the Home screen?
Sorry for the many questions, but I really like the WM Sense and want to make an informed decision about the Aria.
Much appreciated.
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I'll do my best here. i'm brand new to andriod from a Fuze myself. Sense on android gives you 7 home screens. Each of these on the aria essentially has a 4x4 grid for icons, with more vertical spacing than horizontal. You can fill these with shortcuts, widgets, links, etc. So on my central home screen i have the 4x2 widget for the clock, then the 1x4 widget for the calender, and then four 1x1 icons. Then you can arrange the other 6 home screens however you like.
The calendar widget shows the next event on your calender with basic details, and when clicked it opens the full calender.
You can't swipe up like on WM, but you can swipe side to side to get to the other screens (think iphone) You can also pinch the screen and get a preview of all 7 home screens and jump to the one you want. basically you can organize these 7 home screens however you want. for any apps you don't put on a home screen there is a menu that pops up with all listed, accessed by the up arrow next to the phone button at the bottom of the screen.
notifications show up on top of program icons, as well as in teh top info bar which is shown on all home screens. This will show time, battery, signal, sound profile, if headphones are in, new mail, new message, if an app is downloading, if one is done installing, missed calls, etc. If you swipe down on this info bar you get more info on some notifications, as well as a way to jump to the app for some of them.
it's long, but hope this helps. Go play with an aria at a store. It's light years more responsive than the fuze. and i'm liking it a lot more.
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I'll do my best here. i'm brand new to andriod from a Fuze myself. Sense on android gives you 7 home screens. Each of these on the aria essentially has a 4x4 grid for icons, with more vertical spacing than horizontal. You can fill these with shortcuts, widgets, links, etc. So on my central home screen i have the 4x2 widget for the clock, then the 1x4 widget for the calender, and then four 1x1 icons. Then you can arrange the other 6 home screens however you like.
The calendar widget shows the next event on your calender with basic details, and when clicked it opens the full calender.
You can't swipe up like on WM, but you can swipe side to side to get to the other screens (think iphone) You can also pinch the screen and get a preview of all 7 home screens and jump to the one you want. basically you can organize these 7 home screens however you want. for any apps you don't put on a home screen there is a menu that pops up with all listed, accessed by the up arrow next to the phone button at the bottom of the screen.
notifications show up on top of program icons, as well as in teh top info bar which is shown on all home screens. This will show time, battery, signal, sound profile, if headphones are in, new mail, new message, if an app is downloading, if one is done installing, missed calls, etc. If you swipe down on this info bar you get more info on some notifications, as well as a way to jump to the app for some of them.
it's long, but hope this helps. Go play with an aria at a store. It's light years more responsive than the fuze. and i'm liking it a lot more.
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Thanks for the great info. One more question (for now): Does voice command work with the wired headset (I've been told that BT voice command doesn't exist)?
I'm heading to a store asap!!
I haven't tried with the wired headset. unfortunatly it's at home so i can't try till i'm there. I"ve never cared for voice commands, so it's no loss to me.
Can i switch to Vanilla instead? i tried with the normal method but it won't let me
There is currently no way to switch to stock UI
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cropythy said:
There is currently no way to switch to stock UI
Sent from my HTC Liberty
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Actually, there is a root available that is as close as possible to stock Sense (a few AT&T apps left, but easily deleted). The bootscreen is normal, and so is everything else. Rooting mine tomorrow as soon as it comes in. Stupid AT&T sending the phone 2 days late...
Will the HTC Evo 4g receive a update for the new sense ui? I have been wanting this implementation for a while now. Also what does HD in the new HTC Desire mean?
probably high definition, high definition is more of a buzzword then a term, technically the first "hd" tv was invented back around the 50s, its definitely above 480p (enhanced definition) but below the current standard of high definition (720i) the current trend of android phones support 800 x 480 while the highest standard for edtv i believe it 576p(pal resolution)
What's so HD about the HTC Desire? I mean it's like a beefed up verson of the Evo without the kickstand. Also I hope the new sense ui comes out soon!
are there any major differences? I can't tell by looking at some of the pictures out there. what is new in sense?
"-New flip clock animation. There also aren't that many clock widgets,
-There is a blocked callers app, HTC Hub app for your HTC Sense account. For people who just get this new phone, they have an App where they can transfer over their data from their other phone over a bluetooth connection.
-Messaging app: UI overhaul. You have an option for push messages. In the settings you have the option to forward messages to your phone or email addres. Inside the thread there is a sort of new view. It displays the contacts name and number at the same time.
-There is also an app that will link your contacts with the social networking websites, that was demonstrated in that video. It's nothing really new, it just gives you the option to link the twitter and facebook once you add a new contact to the phone.
-The personalize button is the same thing as long pressing on the screen, but it's more personal. A lot more options are put all together in the same place, but essentially the same thing.
-People Widget: There is a new People widget, and by default it displays the contact photos and their facebook/twitter status. But once you get a message or they update any one of those, it replaces the previous status. So if you got a text message, it would show up next to their name, you can tap it and be redirected to the messaging app.
-New Live Wallpaper: There is a wallpaper that you can set that will be based off of pictures you select, so that every time you unlock the phone or go back to the homescreen from any app, you see a new wallpaper. The default images on this rom are great, and i love seeing a new image, its my favorite wallpaper.
-Notifications: Inside your notification pulldown, it displays all recent apps, so you no longer have to hold down the home button, just drag down and select. Also, what htey didnt talk about is how if you're playing music, you have the option to pause the song from the notification pulldown.
-There is a power saver feature
-There is an option for the ringer to become quiet once the phone is moved, and for the ringer to become louder when it's in your pocket.
-New HTC Keyboard, and a new calibration app that looks sexy as hell
-HTC Skins
-Over all higher resolution
-Internet browser: No more fullscreen mode, but you have the refresh button and a new RSS button. Also, next to the RSS button is a button for bookmarking. YOu have the option to disable animated gif animations.
-This is true froyo, so it restores your apps when you load up the app, but only if you were on a version of froyo that had that option, like cyanogenmod
-for search, i never really used it so this may not be new, but you can search every single thing on your phone. i mean, down to a specific word in a text message
-this isnt on my rom but i remember seeing it..you had the option to have these nice power control widgets. one of them that i used was the wireless and settings widget. which contained htc sync, wifi, roaming, mobile network and a button that took you to the settings section under settings
-iPhone magnifying glass when it comes to editing text. It's not the exact same (obviously) it's a square."
I posted that on reddit some weeks ago,thats just some of the new stuff i noticed in the new rom
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"-New flip clock animation. There also aren't that many clock widgets,
-There is a blocked callers app, HTC Hub app for your HTC Sense account. For people who just get this new phone, they have an App where they can transfer over their data from their other phone over a bluetooth connection.
-Messaging app: UI overhaul. You have an option for push messages. In the settings you have the option to forward messages to your phone or email addres. Inside the thread there is a sort of new view. It displays the contacts name and number at the same time.
-There is also an app that will link your contacts with the social networking websites, that was demonstrated in that video. It's nothing really new, it just gives you the option to link the twitter and facebook once you add a new contact to the phone.
-The personalize button is the same thing as long pressing on the screen, but it's more personal. A lot more options are put all together in the same place, but essentially the same thing.
-People Widget: There is a new People widget, and by default it displays the contact photos and their facebook/twitter status. But once you get a message or they update any one of those, it replaces the previous status. So if you got a text message, it would show up next to their name, you can tap it and be redirected to the messaging app.
-New Live Wallpaper: There is a wallpaper that you can set that will be based off of pictures you select, so that every time you unlock the phone or go back to the homescreen from any app, you see a new wallpaper. The default images on this rom are great, and i love seeing a new image, its my favorite wallpaper.
-Notifications: Inside your notification pulldown, it displays all recent apps, so you no longer have to hold down the home button, just drag down and select. Also, what htey didnt talk about is how if you're playing music, you have the option to pause the song from the notification pulldown.
-There is a power saver feature
-There is an option for the ringer to become quiet once the phone is moved, and for the ringer to become louder when it's in your pocket.
-New HTC Keyboard, and a new calibration app that looks sexy as hell
-HTC Skins
-Over all higher resolution
-Internet browser: No more fullscreen mode, but you have the refresh button and a new RSS button. Also, next to the RSS button is a button for bookmarking. YOu have the option to disable animated gif animations.
-This is true froyo, so it restores your apps when you load up the app, but only if you were on a version of froyo that had that option, like cyanogenmod
-for search, i never really used it so this may not be new, but you can search every single thing on your phone. i mean, down to a specific word in a text message
-this isnt on my rom but i remember seeing it..you had the option to have these nice power control widgets. one of them that i used was the wireless and settings widget. which contained htc sync, wifi, roaming, mobile network and a button that took you to the settings section under settings
-iPhone magnifying glass when it comes to editing text. It's not the exact same (obviously) it's a square."
I posted that on reddit some weeks ago,thats just some of the new stuff i noticed in the new rom
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Nice summary.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G Using Tapa Talk Pro!
god does this get new thread every day?
Thanks for summary.
Is this just an updated list... ie: is the new Sense UI still in development.
rockky said:
Thanks for summary.
Is this just an updated list... ie: is the new Sense UI still in development.
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The new Sense UI is complete, because its already on the Desire HD and Z. Only things that is constantly being updated is the stuff for the HTC Hub. But thats just themes, ringtones, wallpapers, skins and whatnot.
New Sense = SEX.
I can't stop using it...
The Mail app and widget have also been greatly improved on the new Sense UI. It adds a universal inbox as well as batch actions. Much nicer to need only one Mail widget now on the homescreen for those people with mutliple email addresses.
i wish they would release an update to the sense ui for the non HD Desire :/
Do any exist and what does it take?
Basically I'm envisioning the standard Android lock screen, except for the right slider. I don't use it for vibrate, so it goes unused.
So, I would like to replace the right side slider with a smart button that allows you to open notifications based upon what you have received.
If you have an unread text, it shows a text message icon and sliding it opens to your texting app. Same thing for Gmail. Obviously its possible to have more than one type of notification, so there would need to be some sort of hierarchy (say Texts > Gmail > Email > WordFeud > Facebook > etc) so that it only opens the most important to you. Users could choose like 3-5 apps that would work with it.
If you have no notifications, then it should default to a single app you use regularly, but does not necessarily have/need notifications (Camera, Google Reader, etc).
Changing the background color of the icon would also be a good way to help differentiate between the default slider, and one that would open a new notification. For example, on the current stock lock screen, the vibrate slider has a gray background. You could keep the gray background for the default app, but when you have a text or email, the icon would change to that app and the background could change to a specified color (say orange for a text, green for an email, etc).
In addition, I wouldn't mind having the weather on the lockscreen as well. Too often do I find myself having to unlock my phone just to check the temperature outside. Obviously the down side to this is having to poll for weather data, but it is something I'd be more than willing to live with. Especially if one could chose how often it updated (30 mins, 1 hour, 3 hours, etc).
I realize most of this can be done with Widgetlocker (or maybe Cyanogen), but honestly I don't like using it and it does not feel polished enough for me. So would something like this have to be baked into a ROM, coded from scratch or whatever? Are there any devs who do this kind of work? is this level of detail even realistically possible given the nature of Android? is this even the right forum?
Just saw the last part, but I think it's still your best bet.
Just curious why don't you like widget locker, it does everything you asked for?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&feature=search_result
custom puzzle slider for widget locker
can some one please make a puzzle slider for widget locker.
i love the puzzle unlock feature.
i would love for the puzzle piece to be the chicago whitesox logo.
thankyou in advance.