I'm thinking of getting a Vibrant but have a couple of questions.
- Do you still get OTA updates with root?
- Let's say I don't want to root, is it possible to speed up the phone with tweaks that don't require root?
- I might take the phone to another country, does sim unlocking have anything to do with root? Should I do one before the other?
Thanks
pookguy88 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Vibrant but have a couple of questions.
- Do you still get OTA updates with root?
- Let's say I don't want to root, is it possible to speed up the phone with tweaks that don't require root?
- I might take the phone to another country, does sim unlocking have anything to do with root? Should I do one before the other?
Thanks
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-Maybe, my G1 didn't but my Cliq did get OTAs
-Most tweaks you find here require root, though you can run task killers but some have said it actually slows down the phone. So your mileage may vary.
-Root does not SIM unlock your phone. You need to contact T-mobile or go through a 3rd party unlocker.
I have a similar question: can I root the official OTA using Galaxy S 1-click root?
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Newbie question - I had installed unRevoked last week on my stock EVO to try out the wi-fi tether app. My device does not seem to have recieved the update today. Shouldn't I be able to force it through Settings --> System Updates --> HTC Software update ??
Or does the fact that I have unRevoked block it?
I tried uninstalling unRevoked, but it still looks like I can't force the update?
Any ideas?
You will loose root if you apply it.
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
Worse yet if you accidentally apply twice you brick your phone.
Can't get the update?
Thanks - I was less worried about not being able to unRevoke - what has me worried is I can't seem to force the update and I haven't gotten any message that it's available?
I think it is a rollout update. Wait it out.
a question
I've been following the 'how to gain root access after OTA' thread and have a question, but they don't want people posting anything not DIRECTLY RELATED to hacking after OTA there anymore. So, I will try this question here. Here goes :
I have NOT done the 1.47.651 June 29 OTA update, I keep refusing it. My Evo is essentially stock (no rooting, no unrevoked, etc. ) I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA. also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked. Or do I need unrevoked2?
I've been to unrevoked Twitter page and unrevoked docu.wiki and see some information, (but not enough for someone new to Android like myself), and no way to ask/post questions directly. So, I am trying here. My main interest isn't even so much root, it's that I want to be able to tether via USB without having to use extra software like PDAnet.
Any help or a point in the right direction, much thanks.
Scott
scottspa74 said:
I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA.
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Yes.
scottspa74 said:
also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked.
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No.
scottspa74 said:
Or do I need unrevoked2?
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You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
pdlboy said:
Yes.
No.
You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Thank you. You even broke it into separate questions. last clarification, I promise: with no OTA I CAN use unrevoked1 and that doesn't break 4G/not what's being blamed for breaking 4G?
I'm not too concerned with most of the root features, I just wanna be able to tether, so I'm thinking unrevoked1 would be good enough for me, (if It's not what's responsible for breaking 4G on non-updated devices)
Thanks again.
So I am pretty new to Android and am looking to root my Droid X.
Just a few quick questions:
1. If I root now will I not be able to get 2.2 when that comes out later? Will I just have to unroot? Would it be bad for me to get rid of the bloatware (eg the .604 update required that certain apps be present)?
2. I know that the Droid 1 is going to get 2.2 with root by updating to a different ROM than the one that is OTA. What about Droid X users? Would we just have to stay at 2.1 (with root) until someone figures out how to root the 2.2 OTA update?
2. If my phone begins having problems can I unroot in a way that Verizon can never tell that I had root in the first place? Would this only be possible if the phone is working "well enough" to go through the unroot process?
3. Any real reasons that you guys would know of NOT to root? I am mostly concerned with improving battery life and just getting the few cool apps that are made possible via root.
I'm rooted and I'm about to send my device back to Verizon when they send me the new one. All you have to do is unroot and then restore the phone. Acoustic to factory defaults.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
hmmm, I think I'm being fooled with the number of questions there somehow. Can't figure out how though...
But anyway:
1. Yes, if you root now and 2.2 comes out, you can just unroot and upgrade. But you'll lose root most likely. I personally wouldn't remove bloatware at this point, just freeze with Titanium Backup, because you'll need those apps to upgrade. You can just unfreeze, make sure permissions are set right and install 2.2 when it rolls out.
2. Yes, at this point it's either stay rooted with 2.1 or upgrade to 2.2 and lose root. No custom ROMS yet.
2 (again). Yes, you can unroot if the phone is working. Just make sure all the bloat is in place, and Verizon won't know. As for the second question, if you brick your phone, you won't be able to do anything until we have access to custom ROMs. Basically you need to know what you're doing. If you're not sure how it'll affect the phone, better not touch it.
3. I'd say rooting greatly improves experience with this phone. You'll be able to install apps that manage your memory, help you save battery, and just do cool customizations =) Just as I said, make sure you know it's safe w/e you're doing.
I noticed there is a lot more development going on with the EVO(which I currently have) than with the Droid X... Is it difficult to develop for motorola, are there not enough developers working on this phone?
I ask because I currently have an EVO and I love that I can customize everything from the boot screen to what the volume buttons do... but the internet is slow on this thing and I can't take advantage of 4G most of time.
I'm planning on getting a Droid X but I just don't see anything as far as custom hacks and things... Any 2 cents welcomed
Hey, guys (and gals):
I posted this in the thread about the z4Root application, but didn't get an answer. It's kind of a general question anyway.
I'm totally interested in Rooting my Vibrant (using z4Root or some other one-click application based method), installing lag fix, and wifi tethering. That's it. I'm just worried that when 2.2 is pushed out to us, I won't be able to get the OTA. Does anyone know if the system is left intact enough by these methods to allow me to receive an OTA? Otherwise I might just suffer with what I have and wait a while. Also, anyone know if I can easily unroot using these methods if that is what is needed to receive an official OTA?
I'm not a total noob to rooting. I had an original MT3G, and rooted that one, flashed roms, etc, and even restored to stock before selling on eBay.
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure if you are rooted with stock rom you will receive OTA updates. If you flash a rom though you will not receive updates.
And yes, you can one click unroot with Z4Root if need be.
Pretty sure is good, but I was hoping for something definite. I don't plan on flashing ROMs, just rooting, applying lag fix, and then maybe wifi tethering/minor overclocking.
This is directly from the sticky post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. Typically, accepting an OTA will make you lose root. Some upgrading to JI6 state they didn't lose root, I did (using ODIN), but gaining root back is so easy.
So basically yep you'll get OTA's and then you can root again.
Awesome. It seems like there's always a sticky or previous post that answers my question. I appreciate your patience in not just douche-ily linking to it and telling me to search better. I'm thinking I'm going to root today.
Any idea on which lag fix is the easiest/best, if you've already done it?
jakemg said:
Awesome. It seems like there's always a sticky or previous post that answers my question. I appreciate your patience in not just douche-ily linking to it and telling me to search better. I'm thinking I'm going to root today.
Any idea on which lag fix is the easiest/best, if you've already done it?
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Stick with RyanZA's one click lag fix from the market. It's pretty hard to mess up your phone with his fix.
Thanks. I plan to use his root and lagfix, then.
But you must get rid of the lag fix prior to update.. root is fine but not the lag fix though afaik..
go here and do this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833024
Even if you don't get OTA (which you should), you can always use Kies/Kies Mini to update. I use Kies/Kies Mini anyway because I hate waiting until the OTA is pushed to my particular handset.
Ms_Vibrant said:
But you must get rid of the lag fix prior to update.. root is fine but not the lag fix though afaik..
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This is true... Ryanz lag fix is an EXT2 type and the OTA's seem to look for the stock rfs system. So undo the lag fix, but you don't have to unroot.
RyanZa's OCLF is the way to go as already mentioned.
Yeah, I try not to be "douchey", it's not so fresh when you do that... lol!
Hi guys, I am a new member and know nothing about rooting phone. I just got my mt4g and the bloatapps are very annoying. I'm planning to follow rooting procedure on youtube and apply permanent root. I never root a phone before. Just one question: after rooted, will the phone still able to receive ota updates from tmobile and run normally? I am not going to flash any rom. I am keeping the stock rom but only remove stuff like yahoo, games, apppack, and some other crap that I am absolutely sure not needed on the phone. Thanks in advance guys.
hgtran7 said:
Hi guys, I am a new member and know nothing about rooting phone. I just got my mt4g and the bloatapps are very annoying. I'm planning to follow rooting procedure on youtube and apply permanent root. I never root a phone before. Just one question: after rooted, will the phone still able to receive ota updates from tmobile and run normally? I am not going to flash any rom. I am keeping the stock rom but only remove stuff like yahoo, games, apppack, and some other crap that I am absolutely sure not needed on the phone. Thanks in advance guys.
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Rooted phones may still receive updates via T-Mobile. However if you should install those updates your phone will get messed up. You need to call T-mobile and ask them to push the most current update to your phone, install it. Then root it. And from that point forward do not any install any update.
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Rooted phones may still receive updates via T-Mobile. However if you should install those updates your phone will get messed up. You need to call T-mobile and ask them to push the most current update to your phone, install it. Then root it. And from that point forward do not any install any update.
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i c i was hoping that it will receive updates like before . THanks very much.
By messed up do you mean you would lose root(su) and s=off correct?
Crazydaddy said:
By messed up do you mean you would lose root(su) and s=off correct?
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yes plus alot more damage. it's just best to either update then hack/slash or avoid the update.
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
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Dude read the stickies in the general forum. The s4 isn't so easy to root and rom
ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
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I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)
Sina Irvani said:
I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)
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Bet you're not on mk2 firmware, I bet he is. Chainfire isn't going to work.
Sina Irvani said:
I rooted mine with Chaifire's Autoroot and it was easy
but after rooting you dont get the updates!
so i want to unroot to get the official updates!
anyone knows any way to root without cancelling the updates?( I KNOW THAT after each update the root will be gone ! but i can reroot after each OTA updates!)
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Root alone doesn't block the OTA. In fact, going from MF3 to MK2, you could first root with jortex's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577) and enable survival mode. Then after the OTA, you will still have root.
guut13 said:
Root alone doesn't block the OTA. In fact, going from MF3 to MK2, you could first root with jortex's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387577) and enable survival mode. Then after the OTA, you will still have root.
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Tnx but somehow I DON WANNA KEEP THE ROOT!
i want it gone! without getting all my apps wiped out and i jus wanna get my updates back!
can u show me a 100% safe way to do it?
tnx in advance
Sina Irvani said:
Tnx but somehow I DON WANNA KEEP THE ROOT!
i want it gone! without getting all my apps wiped out and i jus wanna get my updates back!
can u show me a 100% safe way to do it?
tnx in advance
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If you're using supersu there is a full unroot method in the apps settings. Look there.
ccarter70 said:
I will soon be getting a samsung galaxy g4 32gb phone from att. I want to know the best way to root it and remove the bloatware mainly att stuff, without bricking or messing up the phone. I love the ability to root i did with my on sony xperia play. Unfornately the last phone i had a lg optimus g crash and burn after rooting and trying to remove bloatware. So I want to make sure I have no problems. I heard it was easy and simple to do with a galaxy line but i just don't want to mess it up i can afford buying new phones.
thanks
c carter
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I rooted that phone with kingo root through the computer. Bloatware on the I removed bloatware with ROM toolbox pro however when trying to do ota update it looked for the bloatware and when it didn't find it ota failed. (looked that up in the failed log - hung on not finding chaton) flashed mk2 rom then only froze the bloatware. have to see if the next update will fail I don't think it will though because when I only froze bloatware on mf3 I did get the mj9 ota update successfully