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Ry Guy
Google Employee
07:03 PM
Hey guys,
Just dropping in to let you know that the FRF72 build that is floating around is not the official update. The Android team is feverishly working to get a final version out the door, but like passion-ate has mentioned this will only happen once a release candidate meets our quality criteria.
Since today is the Summer Solstice, we know things will be heating up a bit so hopefully Froyo will be on its way shortly. Thanks for your continued patience!
-Ry Guy
So… that tells us… not very much but we now know 2 things:
* FRF72, which was the latest official leaked Froyo build, was not the final version (we kind of already suspected that)
* and Froyo is still not ready
cool, thnx for the info
And so the wait continues...
Then again if the google guys think that FRF72 still doesn't meet their standards... could be a good thing.
I'm expecting the OTA'd Froyo to have the option to take over Apple's servers and Ddos them to pieces.
watch, we will have waited all this time for froyo and instead we get gingerbread. (crosses fingers and hopes)
Good to know...seems like Google is taking QA to a new level!
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
sandtiger said:
http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
lalalalala
Blueman101 said:
just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
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Pretty sure its actually five years in the making because I've been watching for 3 years and I'm sure they started in 04-05 right after half life source came out. nothing compared to duke nukem forever
JCopernicus said:
lalalalala
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This newb is curious, how are you tracking these things?
flybyme said:
.....nothing compared to duke nukem froyo
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Needed a small edit, all fixed now.
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
RogerPodacter said:
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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I agree, its tough to be mad since we already have it anyway. But I'm with you I'm intrigued by the delay, not put off by it. Hopefully google will not be too embarrassed to announce what caused the delay.
Re: Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status FRF72 Was Not Final,
I'm still excited, they work hard at Goggle, I'm sure the official update its going to be great when its ready.
I think we should have stick to 2.1 till the official froyo comes up,it's good to see that Desire to N1 Roms are active again
Rodriguezstyle ROM with FRF72 us amazing already
Fastest, smoothest Android I've ever used.
Cant wait for 75
So FRF72 is not the final build. What will be in the new build. Is there a list available what items is not met yet in the FRF72 build?
All this time I always have a feeling that froyo is being delayed due to flash! My thought is that they are waiting for the final flash build to optimize froyo for it.
Adobe has released Full flash 10.1 to android androidcentral.com/adobe-releases-flash-101-partners
so dont think they are waiting on flash anymore
and whilst waiting for flash to be ready they thought. "Hey, let's watch some korean drama and worry about gingerbread later"
Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?
I heard they released it for the captivate, ours can't be too far behind.
I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.
They must release it in like 30 days.
They dont have any othr choice
eunkipark92 said:
Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?
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From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Yes. Source code doesn't look like it will be released soon. When it finally is, I'm pretty sure we will have 2.3.2 working.
CM 7 for Galaxy S is pretty close to done. Codeworkx just posted a video of CM 7 Gingerbread running on the I9000 pretty flawlessly.
It's here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2DsF7VT3ms
Krylon360 is working out the bugs on a TW build of Gingerbread as well (its working, just buggy). And Eugene seems to have figured out the battery drain from the I9000 kernels so if he has indeed, a LOT of I9000 things will be ported. This coming month is my expectation we will see fully functional Gingerbread on the Vibrant.
The source code for Froyo won't be relevant soon really. . .
Official isn't how the copyright is worded. Its 60 days from when you release. Putting something on Kies, an official source of software from Samsung counts as a release. Doesn't have to be OTA, doesn't have to be delivered by UPS, all that matters is it is released through an official channel, which it has been.
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I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.
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I think I read the rogers captivate, and the armani branded captivate source were released.
How long did it take for the i9000 2.2 Source to be released?
ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Ka6 has to be the official cause I remember sammy saying that they released the official 2.2 update on fb
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the samsung galaxy s our phones will not get updated till mid-April claims.
@samsungsuomi :Galaxy S:n Android 2.3 -päivityksen testausvaihe on loppumetreillään. Uusi ohjelmistoversio saapuu ladattavaksi huhtikuun puolivälissä
which translates to: Galaxy S Android 2.3 update to the testing phase is a late stage. The new version of the software download arrives in mid-April,
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?
TechKidTarek said:
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?
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An apology for what - all news we were receiving the past months were "unofficial sources" or rumours or "i know i guy who knows a guy who works at S", I never actually read anything official, e.g. on a samsung website.
Even though the news, which was "almost" official (samsung romania facebook), rejected an actual release date at the end of march.
Just stay relaxed, an update will come in a few hours / days / weeks / years
Kind regards,
ww
I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...
I agree....they should apologize for possibly not living up to "a friend of a friend said" rumors, or for changing their roadmap to suit the pronouncements off the cuff on the facebook page of a regional Samsung distributer in a small market?
Really?
Or because Tricky used what he felt could possibly be the final 2.3.3 (though from user reports if it IS final, to quote Ricky Ricardo, Samsung's got some 'splainin to do) to make a big entry into the ROM Kitchen team?
Somehow I don't think so. No apologies required, from anyone. Just patience.
To be honest, considering no source is released and there seem to be various problems/quirks with JVK, I would prefer they take a couple weeks and give us a much more ready for prime time version.
Relax, Gingerbread is coming...just be patient and enjoy your 2.2.1 Custom ROMs and be grateful again you aren't stuck with just a single flavor of iOS.
Since I'm a new user and I cant post links, I'm just going to quote. Finnish branch of Samsung has announced a press release a few hours ago through a publishing company:
Translated in Google Translate said:
Samsung Android-range success of the phone Galaxy S is updated Android 2.3. Update arrives in mid-April.
Soon Android successful Android phone is updated Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)-version of the software. The update is a welcome gift for the Galaxy S owners. Update the test phase is late stage, and the new OS version arrives users to download in mid-April.
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Google "epressi Samsung Galaxy S 2.3" for the article and translate it through Google Translate.
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.
VillePie said:
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.
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Until it IS on Samsung's website, or we see it in Korean, I would tend to take that with a grain of salt.
FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.
am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.
curls1 said:
am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.
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Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
The thing with these web blogs and tech news pages is they all tend to get their "exclusive" news from the same sources which 9 out of 10 times are wrong. Case in point recent news quoting Samsung Mobile Facebook page which wasn't as it was the SamsungGalaxyS Facebook page which looked remarkably similar until you read the owner info. Something you would think they would check first really. Egg face say no more.
electrotune1200 said:
FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.
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I can't see why people can't use their time anticipating the new release. It's not your time, obviously. Some people want to flash their phone with a safe, official firmware and want to know some ETA when it's going to happen. It's not like people are F5'ing every Android news site. Of course, this can hold but can't there be any speculation? It's up to XDA's moderators to decide, is this topic worth of discussing.
What comes to the first post, this is good news (if true) and in my opinion most reliable newsbit so far about Gingerbread. You shouldn't take it for granted that Samsung is liable to update its firmwares and "breaks promises" if doesn't. Operating as a company, Samsung's every firmware update is giving something to us, the customers. When people buy their phones, Samsung's is not liable to update firmwares if there's nothing critically wrong with it. Froyo is good but now we are on the road towards something even better. And it's a win-win situation to us.
Tehpriest said:
Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
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you must have done somthing wrong then as I have no bugs at all been on it since saturday
I think even mid April is a tad optimistic. That's like 2 weeks.. and there's quite a bit left to fix and add. Together with the speed of which samsung works, I'm guessing May at the earliest.
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I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...
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Samsung dont owe you anything. They provide roms where others stopped. Sit back and wait for the final...
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Anyone knows more about it?
Cheers,
S.
I think it'll release in the end of the year or later :v
Yeah probably not until December at the earliest. New Android is usually buggy as hell, id rather they waited until either they fixed it or Google does.
First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
People chime in if you get the notification!
Nothing for me yet.
It probably won't come out until the new Google phones do. I know it's difficult for flashaholics, but be patient.
Now I'm waiting for the September security update for Marshmallow, maybe it will be late too. They seem to be in a huge work.
This thread is the best sign.
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First off let me say I Do Not intend for this to be another whine thread....
Just wanted to reach out and see if anyone has had any signs of an update. I recall from one of the previous now closed threads started one user mentioned the 5th as being a possible date. Though seemingly arbitrary date the 5th is here.
People chime in if you get the notification!
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That's what intended mine to be, but it went south so fast! Lol no sign for me yet, I'm hoping maybe by tonight. It's REALLY behind said release date. Staying optimistic!
This is the only sign from Google I have seen.
Absolutely notting here. Not even the sept security update.
There will be a September in 2017,too
If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!
Hope it's soon.
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If I'm remembering the same post, a user speculated that the update would be tied to the September monthly security update. That seemed like pure speculation. I hope the updates are posted soon but I don't think today will be the day, since it is already the afternoon and a business holiday. Hope I'm wrong!
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Maybe tomorrow then, I forgot it was a holiday. What gets me is how they got everyone all riled up that it was gonna be in August, and it's gonna be out at the same time haha
Yeah Im ready for the official build too, this NPD90G preview wants me to want more, or at least some minor fixes.
No updates.............there will be speculations.
No speculations.....probably updates.
From what I've heard Qualcomm needs to do some driver upgrades for full Android N Support. If that is the case, it would explain why Google hasn't released the update yet, they simply can't until Qualcomm delivers. I can imagine Qualcomm has their hands full at the moment with all the smartphone companies out their requesting driver updates to support Android N as well.
I don't have any references for this, as I read it in a post somewhere but don't remember where. Don't take my word for it. But of course it would be interesting if someone could confirm or deny this.
I don't expect the update any time soon, but at least the latest beta runs very smoothly on my device. Can't complain at the moment.
Thats what has confused me DP5 runs well so id have thought it was near release quality but I guess not with the update taking so long. As far as qualcomm surely google should be the highest priority for drivers/updates given that they build the entire base that all other android phones base off? So an N driver for a specific SoC should work for all devices using that SoC?
I'm pretty satisfied with the Uber N ROM as is.
What @onemandivision said is correct, driver updates are critical. It's not just the kernel and the android base.
I'm a little confused by the delay though since it is already clear that phones on chips older than snapdragon 800/801 won't get nougat (ie 65-70% of all android phones according to some surveys), so there should be very few drivers to update/fine tune? Am I wrong?
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september update , my s7 edge still has the july update , samsung are dam slow pushing updates , my nexus 6 has the latest dev update but hope oneday soon the real 7.0 comes out.
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