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HI.
Since there are three main roms (like i think) i would like to know, which one you are using including launcher.
stock + home++
The custom ROMS are so tempting. Gets better every day so I'm waiting.
Desire with Sense. Was getting bored of the stock look and home replacements.
Stock/Stock
CM + Home++
stock, stock for me.. Just waiting patiently for the perfect one for my needs!!
i still don´t know, if i should stay with cm or switch to the desire rom. hmm
I don't stay on anyone long enough to say...
As I type, I am on my custom cooked Modaco Desire a10, before that it was Manup's Desire, before that it was CM, and by the end of today I will be on my custom cooked Modaco stock.
If you are wondering what is the best, for me it is a combo.
Stock (but with .32 Kernal), OpenHome/GDE More often OpenHome
thanks for the input.
i think i will stay with CM and stock launcher
The Spirit said:
thanks for the input.
i think i will stay with CM and stock launcher
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lol, why base your choice on other people's opinions? Make up your own mind...
Try out others like Sense and see what YOU like.
And I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people who voted stock haven't tried Sense
optimized CM, auto rotating homescreen launcher, black bar, HTC_IME with transparent patch.
This made my phone friggin sweet.
Voted CM + Stock Launcher, but today I updated to NexTheme's Launcher. I just wish the whole NexTheme would go with Cyan to replace all of the Green. So sick of Green, Green, and more freakin' Green!
I barely prefer stock at this point but the only sense I've tried was on g1 which was painful. But I used it enough to know that I prefer stock regardless of speed although I'd appreciate a better stock music app and better Widgets, when google decided to be largely hands off regarding widgets and just include unimpressive but effective ones, I think (hope ) they anticipated much better contributions by devs on that front. But perhaps in time either 3rd parties will offer impressive music/settings/messaging widgets....or else maybe google will give in an upgrade the stock ones. If the Widgets dont change my vote probably will....
Paul22000 said:
lol, why base your choice on other people's opinions? Make up your own mind...
Try out others like Sense and see what YOU like.
And I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people who voted stock haven't tried Sense
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I've tried Sense. It's just a gimicky UI to me.
Carloswithac said:
I've tried Sense. It's just a gimicky UI to me.
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Honestly, I don't exact see how it is possible to prefer the default Vanilla Android over Sense, I can't exactly see what is more beneficial about Vanilla.
Everything is laid out better, everything is more glossy, everything is just so nice in Sense, and everything just integrates and flows so smoothly - while Vanilla is just plain. What is it that makes people prefer Vanilla more? If you want the eye-candy launcher, just switch to it. If you want the glossy 3D Gallery, install it.
Seriously, what makes things better? I KNOW that there will be someone who can easily tell me, and I'm kinda ready to hear their thoughts ^.~ but I believe most of it will be personal preference.. I would think..
i really do not like the laucher for sense at all. i also just do not like the look or feel of sense at all. i love the clock/weather so i got weather widget donate. i love the keyboard so i got HTC_IME. So the stock UI gives you more options and more control.
plus i prefer the stock launcher. I dont mind hitting the home button then going to dailer one. its much better then having that big ugly bar at the bottom.
Eclair~ said:
Honestly, I don't exact see how it is possible to prefer the default Vanilla Android over Sense, I can't exactly see what is more beneficial about Vanilla.
Everything is laid out better, everything is more glossy, everything is just so nice in Sense, and everything just integrates and flows so smoothly - while Vanilla is just plain. What is it that makes people prefer Vanilla more? If you want the eye-candy launcher, just switch to it. If you want the glossy 3D Gallery, install it.
Seriously, what makes things better? I KNOW that there will be someone who can easily tell me, and I'm kinda ready to hear their thoughts ^.~ but I believe most of it will be personal preference.. I would think..
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Its all in the signature!
Hey everybody,
First post here but i've been reading up on quite some info here.
Proud owner of the awesome HTC Desire since a bit over a week and very much a noob when it comes to all the config possibilities of these super-smartphones.
I just installed Helixlauncher2 and very much like the added options for the menu bar at the bottom and it also added the ability to let the homescreens function in landscape view.
One downside is that the phone seems to be a bit slower and less responsive compared to running the stock Sense GUI. I think i might switch back to Sense for the time being untill the phone gets rooted.
That is where my question comes in. When it gets rooted, does that mean option like the Helix menubar can be integrated in Sense? Helix now cancels all the HTC widgets and while it gives decent alternatives, the Sense GUI has some real gems which i'd love to keep.
So...does rooting mean "anything is possible" and you get a super configurable phone? Or is it more like people making the ROM lay the basics and you can only work within those lines?
Thanks for the help so far!
Nope, afraid not.
Not being able to get the HTC widgets in Helixlauncher2 has nothing to do with the phone not being rooted, it's to do with the app (Helixlauncher2) itself. It's not designed to pick them up. As far as the speed is concerned, try Helixlauncher rather than Helixlauncher2. It's really fast on my Desire. I much prefer it to the Sense UI but then I didn't have much use for the HTC widgets as I already had 3rd party widgets that I had purchased such as the Beautiful Widgets Pack. Another launcher you can try is Home++ Beta which has some great features.
Hope that helps.
I know this is a question but there is no Vibrant Q&A forum so i decided to post it here.
But to elaborate on my question, Sense has a deep integration with the vanilla android system, the framework is heavily modified and its hard and some say impossible to use a lot of things from sense on non-sense roms. So I was wondering, is touchwiz integrated that deeply over android? I heard the 2.2 Update to this phone would make it easier for samsung to make updates so I dont think it is as deep as sense, but I wanna know for sure because i think itd be cool if we could mix certain aspects of vanilla with touchwiz. Like if we could remove the bottom 4 shortcut apps, add a vanilla lockscreen, vanilla music widget and app, but still maintain the functionality of touchwiz such as the notification pull down with the integrated settings toggle and music controls.
Opinions?
This one might be easier than you think.
pretty sure they want this is General Q&A, you can use LauncherPro Beta, or ADW, which will give you the Vanilla Home style, however no samsung widgets, they suck anyways. your contacts will still integrate with twitter and fuk face, i mean face fuk, i mean face book...sorry. Buy Beautiful widgets and LockBot Pro from Market and your all set. mostly.
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pretty sure they want this is General Q&A, you can use LauncherPro Beta, or ADW, which will give you the Vanilla Home style, however no samsung widgets, they suck anyways. your contacts will still integrate with twitter and fuk face, i mean face fuk, i mean face book...sorry. Buy Beautiful widgets and LockBot Pro from Market and your all set. mostly.
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well it has some development implications and gives ideas to rom developers too so idk if a mod is irritated by this post i dont mind if its moved to general lol.
yeah Im aware of all those apps and those launchers, but I was wondering if there was a way to integrate the samsung apps with vanilla android, and use the stock vanilla lockscreen and music widgets into an actual rom.
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well it has some development implications and gives ideas to rom developers too so idk if a mod is irritated by this post i dont mind if its moved to general lol.
yeah Im aware of all those apps and those launchers, but I was wondering if there was a way to integrate the samsung apps with vanilla android, and use the stock vanilla lockscreen and music widgets into an actual rom.
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truth be told i don't even care, so why did i say something in the first place...i'm an asshole...hopefully i can call myself an asshole...anywho, I agree, like some things about the touch**** i mean touchwiz, and the stock build. i would like to add some sense in there too...mix it all up and hopefully wind up with cm6.
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truth be told i don't even care, so why did i say something in the first place...i'm an asshole...hopefully i can call myself an asshole...anywho, I agree, like some things about the touch**** i mean touchwiz, and the stock build. i would like to add some sense in there too...mix it all up and hopefully wind up with cm6.
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lmao haha it aint a big deal haha
yeah touchwiz and stock mixed would be nice and i think CM6 could do that but idk abt the sense stuff. maybe well have sense roms but not from cyanogen and idk if itd be possible to mix sense with anything really, plus i dont like sense phones or roms because of their lack of bluetooth functionality. I bought the vibrant cuz i wanna use the wiimote via bluetooth to play my snes gba and sega games on my tv lol
TW Launcher blows, so use ADW - which incorporates TW and Sense - def the best Home replacement. U wont be missing the Samsung Widgets, they ****in suck.
The TW Lockscreen is amazing, dont know why u want to use the original. It is like the Sense LS that displays info, like the music app, which btw is the BEST out of all music players, including 3 (cubed). The puzzle lock is so cool too, looks rly nice (that feature can be turned off btw). And ability to swipe the LS in any direction to unlock is a pleasure to use.
As mentioned in other threads... The "proper" way to lable this is [prj] and then the project description... But I also don't really care, we need some mods to help out this form, especially cuz its a brand new phone
On a Vibrant, using this app-thingy
I'm committed to using Launcher Plus Pro, it's the ideal home replacement for me - has a lot of sense-like widgets that I love, plus a ton of added features/customizable elements that Sense couldn't even dream of competing with. I'm rooted, but still running stock, haven't flashed a rom yet, just a couple of system tweaks.
Anyway, my question is - should I flash an AOSP rom to run Launcher Plus Pro over? Would my phone run much smoother and more efficiently if LPP wasn't running over Sense? I've deleted all widgets/apps from my Sense set-up, and set LPP as default, but does the fact that Sense is still there take anything away from my phone's potential? I know if nothing else, sense takes up more MB than AOSP, so maybe that alone is reason to switch?
Assuming I do flash an AOSP rom - any suggestions, considering I'll be running LPP over it? Would one be better suited than another?
Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Being that this phone has 768Mb of memory. running LP over sense shouldn't be an issue. How ever i'm clueless as to why you want to use LP, due to the pretty widgets then turn around and delete the same exact widgets from Sense.
LP looks so much like Sense that it's not even funny. The only thing that is different is the actual launcher button.
But to answer your question I'd run Cyanogen(mod).
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Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
sunsean said:
Well, that's the thing that makes Sense - the widgets. LPP has similar widgets, so it can take on Sense in that respect. Yes, the widgets are similar, but IMO they actually work BETTER than their Sense equivalents. For instance, while Friendstream looks cool, it was painfully slow to use. The Friends widget on LPP is as fast as posting directly to facebook. Another example is the calendar widget, I love the way the LPP one functions, you get both grid and agenda in one sharp widget. So right there, LPP is better due to functionality. After the widgets, LPP has several other major benefits: transition effects if you're into that kind of thing, landscape mode, ability to resize widgets to your liking, and of course - the dock. The dock is really the main reason I decided to ditch Sense. I don't even use myfaves, so it was ridiculous to have a launcher that takes up so much screen space and offered very little functionality.
So in short - I replaced Sense with LPP because it has what makes Sense cool (the widgets) plus many other great features that are missing from Sense. No other replacement has the added functionality AND the widgets.
BTW, thanks for the tip on Cyanogen, that's probably what I'll wind up doing.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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CM7+LauncherProPlus is what i'm on. I used to be a big fan of ADW until I tried LPP. When you do this, you can completely remove ADWLauncher from /system/app and replace it with LPP. Just make sure you fix permissions before your reboot the phone. You want LPP to have rw-r-r permissions.
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Thanks for the tip! I think this is what I'll wind up doing - no sense having 2 launchers on the phone if one is never used. I'm just a little paranoid about screwing something up with the permissions and all that :-/
I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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I was happy with the rooted stock rom and I also prefer Launcher Pro Plus over Sense. It has so many additional features and settings that Sense doesn't. I like the Facebook and Twitter widgets and the fact that rotation works on the home screen.
For 3 or 4 months, I used the stock rom, rooted, with a lot of the stock apps removed, and with LPP. But a few weeks ago I finally got around to trying out CM7. Today I'm running RoyalGinger. Yes, the aftermarket roms are slightly faster and it is nice being able to overclock. Plus, it's nice not having the Sense apks running in the background. Also, I like the call blacklist feature in Gingerbread. But the stock rom worked 99.9% of the time, whereas the aftermarket roms probably only work 99% of the time. I occasionally find bugs here and there.
The stock rom worked fine for me and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't do with it. I just wanted to try some aftermarket roms cause I like to screw around and hack stuff. But was there really a great deal of benefit from updating the rom? Not really. Would I do it all over again? Probably not.
But I'm relatively happy right now on RoyalGinger 1.6 and I'm too lazy right now to flash back to stock, so I'll probably leave it like this for a while. Take that for what it's worth.
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Thanks for sharing your experience, it's actually very helpful and relevant as that's pretty much my exact scenario! Yeah I'm on the fence about whether or not to flash a new rom, especially after hearing that it doesn't change the performance of the phone too much. And I'm actually overclocking on stock right now - that was one of the main things I rooted for, to be able to set overclock/underclock profiles. Unless I'm missing something, you don't have to flash a rom to overclock, just a kernel (I'm using faux's smartass).
Hey all, I've been looking around but haven't been able to find my cup of tea exactly. I've been looking for a sense based rom that allows me to use HTC apps and widgets, however I want a customizable dock and number of screens, like that off launcherpro. Is there any such thing that exists?
Any sense rom will let you run launcher pro.
Except you can't use htc widgets...
Nope, if you run a launcher you can't use HTC widgets. However, if you buy LauncherPro Plus you get a, bunch of widgets that are similar to HTC's widgets.
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Launcherpro plus has some sense like widgets, so it depends on which widgets you are looking for.
You can also look for ROMs/themes that change the rosie look and function.
Short answer though, is no, no ROM exists like that.