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It would be may be good to create a list of known bugs and other problems with the WM6 ROM for Typhoon. Please post here if you know about some bugs or strange behaviour.
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
lot of software incompability, mostly games,
-bug tcmp looks like the same most games have; there is sound but the screen will freeze in a few seconds (sound continues )
..tried to add T9 language according to instructions described at Ronswens pages for WM5. During writing sms I can choose the new language, but after choosing it only beep occurs when pressing a key. I suppose there should be changed also some another key in registry...do we have some experiences already with the T9 languages on this WM6 rom?
Netopjer said:
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
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I have this problem too and I back to wm2k3
r0c0 said:
lot of software incompability, mostly games,
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I have found the decision:
1)
We open "exe" a file with game in any HEX-editor, we find gx.dll and it is replaced on g0.dll
We clean the signature from a file by means of SignRemv and it is done new by means of Signed tool
To place the changed file back, and a file g0.dll to place in folder Windows
or 2) To replace a file gx.dll in folder Windows, in any a file-manager to put "read only" and restart (there can be problems with other programs)
As example Bustem
PS: forgive for my bad English
Netopjer said:
I have been using this rom since yesterday and after few restarts, the phone remains stuck for about 3 minutes in the "mobile operator" screen during start up. Eventualy it asks for pin code, but after typing in, the time, operator and appointments information is missing in the home screen. I have flashed WM6 once again, but this phenomenon occurred again after application unlock and installation of basic software (xbar 2.5, pocket controller, Binaries smart explorer, auto keylock, smart time sync) + few restarts. Now I am searching for the reason if this is caused by some registry entry or by an incompatible software installed...At present I removed all the software but problem still present. Ready to make registry clean or hard reset...
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how do you make application unlock on wm6 ?
Java
is there Java support with this WM6 ROM? I can't seem to find it. Very useful for Opera Mini and Gmail standalone app.
sebip said:
how do you make application unlock on wm6 ?
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Use regeditSTG2.exe to modify the following phone registry keys:
- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001001 = 1 (that will enable the rapi_config, 1 means full access to rapi config, 2 means user controlled access)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001005 = 40 (that disallows the check for security cirtificate etc)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies0001017 = 144
Run SDA_ApplicationUnlock.exe from the PC with the phone connected via ActiveSync. This will unlock the phone.
Disconnect and switch the phone off then back on again.
Hi,
I can't use voice talk (via handset bluetooth) before in wm2k3 and wm5 i have the fonction to add voice command with contact, but now no.
It is normal ?
Thx.
...I also revealed interresting behaviour when you are trying to connect to internet via GPRS. There sometimes occurrs error message that it couldnt be established GPRS connection because of missing GPRS coverage. (the "G" is also missing in homescren icon bar). But I am sure there is no GPRS coverage problem in my location.
So in this case you have to go into the phone settings and choose your network again. Afterwards when you are re-registerd in your network, the symbol G is present in iconbar and you can run the GPRS connection. Sometimes prolongomenous procedure...
I had pretty much the same thing as a few of the others.
Xphone11
WM5 - WM6
It flashed all ok, the phone booted all good and worked fine - but then after around 15 min of running, reciving one call and 3 failed attempts at sycning it died.
Well - actually, I re-booted it for something and it never came right after that.
These are the issues which appeared;
Contacts wouldn't open (yet the proccess was fired),
Calendar threw a 'missing file' error,
Start menu wouldn't work (no response from the button),
GPRS service was dropped ("no service available" - even though there was and the phone could see it if you seeked for it),
Yet the phone recived text messages while in this state and while calling the phone it just wouldn't do anything - yet to the caller it would appear to just ring and ring (not a provided service).
An interesting thing - I found that by making a change to the home screen or theme would allow the start menu too function as it should and the the clock to be displayed on the home screen.
Could be an area worth investigating....
I've had a taste now.... I want WM6!!!
What can I do to help?
...it also would be interresting to know whether there is a possibility to run the USB modem - I couldnt find it in start menu/accesories nor in the windows folder...
How to install for QTEK 8020 (T-Mobile SDA) joystick? please help... fuctional joystick in WM06 (my english low sorry)... right is up, left is down and left not functional and right... ???
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I am also wondering why nobody who is capable enough tries to make a "joystick-version" of the Typhoon WM6 - that work would be highly appreciated by so many people...
DoctorT said:
I am also wondering why nobody who is capable enough tries to make a "joystick-version" of the Typhoon WM6 - that work would be highly appreciated by so many people...
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Because WM6 for Typhoon Error on Dumprom.
WM6 looks fantastic, however...
I also have a few disappointments the most important of which are:
- No "Headset" option in the profiles menu!!!
- No STK menu!!!
- Very easily crashing on games and some progs (hope to fix it as stated above)
and the camera is definately worse than in 2003SE
..various language t9 cab files - I tried it and it works fine on WM6
http://melgurth.ovh.org/
do anyone try the standard calculator in wm6 ? It show error in my c500 so I have to use other calculator program
..it looks that my calculator works properly...
btWatch is an application developed for Windows Mobile 5 and 6 based Smart Phones and Pocket PCs. It allows for communication with bluetooth enabled watches, such as those from Sony Ericsson (MBW-100 & MBW-150) and Abacus. Due to the fact that these watches were manufactured to work with specific phones only, they have previously been just out of reach for those of us partial to WM5/6 based technology.
While these watches were designed to support basic CallerID presentation and messaging alerts (some also control audio playback) I have taken it a step further by adding new features and improving upon the basic features.
Here's the latest version of btWatch. Currently at version 0.1.6
If you are having trouble getting your watch to work with btWatch, consider using smartWatchM which is being developed by MoneyToo.
This version currently supports the following:
Code:
1. Pairing of a new Watch directly through the app.
2. Establishing communication with an already paired Watch.
3. Creates a registry key (HKLM\SOFTWARE\btWatch) for device setup and options.
4. Options Menu to enable/disable features.
5. Current Options: CID, SMS, EMAIL, VIBRATION and Number of rings to Vibrate on.
6. Fully functional incoming call notification (2-line name/number + vib for n rings)
7. Notification of incoming Text Messages (displays name/num and full message).
8. Notification when new Email arrives (displays name/email and subject).
9. Digital Date and Time are synchronized with the phone.
10.Debugging mode to allow you to see behind the scenes for testing purposes
("Monitor Connection").
11.Added EKG annimation when connection is established.
12.Watch will now auto connect after going out of range and coming back within range.
13.Added 2-line text support.
14.Added basic support for MBW-150
15.Reject a call by pressing upper right button twice (much more responsive)
16.Display phone status info by pressing crown(play)
16.1. Number of unread email messages
16.2. Number of unread SMS messages
16.3. Number of missed calls
16.4. Voicemail Notification Icon
16.5. Current phone battery charge Icon
16.6. Headset Pairing Icon
16.6. Live "bars of service" from phone
17.Lists all appointments for the day by holding crown(FF)
18.Control WMP (press upper right button to activate/deactivate control) via crown
18.1. Pause, Play, Next Track
18.2. Displays current Artist/Track name on watch
19.Fonts are loaded dynamically from bmp files allowing users to modify fonts
20.Display task list with priority and due date by pressing upper right button when
viewing appointments menu.
21.New Menu System - Press and hold Crown(FF) to access, then press upper right to cycle.
Note about fonts: You can edit the bmp files with windows paint. Do not alter the height of the files (8 pixels), but you can alter the width and content. Must be saved as monochrome (1bit) bmp file. Do not change the individual file names in any way.
Installation: To simplify installation I have also compiled 2 separate cab installers. One for Smart Phones without the touch screen and one for PocketPC style phones. Should work on WM5 and above.
Disclaimer: While I make every effort to thouroughly test btWatch before each developmental release, I cannot guarantee compatibility with your phone/watch. As this is beta software, you use it at your own risk.
Price: btWatch is currently free for you to use as you please, but if you feel that the application is worth pursuing you may make donations to help further its development.
Anyway, I hope you all like the new version!
Download:
version 0.1.8
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SPversion 0.1.7
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SPversion 0.1.6 Buggy - Use newer version!
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SPversion 0.1.5
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SPversion 0.1.4
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SPversion 0.1.3
btWatch for PPC
btWatch for SP
Hello,
I want to Test your Programm because (little) Problems with sWM INFO ("moneytoo" could not find the solution ).
But "Pairing" is not possible, btWatch find my MBW-150 but could not Connect. If I want to connect my PPC (Asus P750) with MBW-150 Ex. PPC "Freeze" / see only WM "hourglass".
Pernod99 said:
Hello,
"Pairing" is not possible, btWatch find my MBW-150 but could not Connect. If I want to connect my PPC (Asus P750) with MBW-150 Ex. PPC "Freeze" / see only WM "hourglass".
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Try something for me so that I can get a better idea where the problem is. If there is a com port associated with your watch in start-settings-bluetooth-comports delete it, then delete the watch from the list of paired devices. Ensure that you do not have moneytoo's app set to startup with WM (or temporarily remove it) and soft reset. Then please pair the watch directly through btWatch and let me know what happens. I will take a look at the code in the mean time.
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Try something for me so that I can get a better idea where the problem is. If there is a com port associated with your watch in start-settings-bluetooth-comports delete it, then delete the watch from the list of paired devices. Ensure that you do not have moneytoo's app set to startup with WM (or temporarily remove it) and soft reset. Then please pair the watch directly through btWatch and let me know what happens. I will take a look at the code in the mean time.
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At first i had the same problem, i couldn't get the watch connected to my Tytn II (Kaiser), after deleting COM6 and removing Moneytoo's program and reinstalling BTWatch it works great. I will test it in the field over the coming days.
Donation will follow....thanks for creating a second program for us PPC users.
Little Question ..... btWatch have a Appointment notify Feature ?
btWatch hangs
Tried it out and i like the overall functions of the program. It potentially can become a true opponent for smartwatchm. But what makes me change back to this program is that btWatch keep stalling as soon as the ppc is turned off for a while. When i turn it on (wake it up) and try to open btWarch is only see the turning circle, forever (it seems that way), apparantly this is the case when i've been out of reach from the ppc and come back to it. When that happens i cannot reconnect and i have to soft-rest the ppc to start thing up again....so good effort but alas....i'm switching back to smartwatchm and waiting for a stable version...keep up the good work...
Edit: while btWatch still hangs (turning circle) it seems to reconnect....+1 for btWatch...
If your program displayed incoming emails (like Sender Name and Subject) it would make it perfect!!
I'll have an eye on your program too. I like the little icon stuff going on there, headset, battery meter and signal level, oh boy I'm such a kid
But since I have a MBW-150 your app isnt fully up to moneytoos programs possibilities yet. But I'll definitely keep an eye on your work, I like how far we can take those watches already anyway, if I remember how proud I was using it with my SE P1 back in the days to skip tracks in the music player... Ridiculous
I wonder though what SonyEricsson can come up with. The MBW-150 is listed as a compatible accessory for SonyEricssons upcoming XPERIA X1 which runs WM6.1...
would btwatch work with the LG Style-i as well?
the program seems to find the style-i but hangs when trying to connect to it
Version 0.1.7 Released!
Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted in a while. Life got busy this week.
Anyway, here's the latest version of btWatch!
Version 0.1.6 seemed to be a bit buggy for most, so I re-worked a lot of the code. It should connect and reconnect more reliably now. I added email sender and subject to the email notification as requested. I added a minor update to the Appointments menu: now shows 1st all day event as well. Unfortunately, this version still does not show appointments that are setup using a recurring pattern (eg. every monday), but I will add these in an upcoming version as well as appointment notifications. BTW if you connect the watch and click "Test Menu" in the test menu you will get a glimpse of the new menu system for v0.1.8!
Link is on 1st post.
consy said:
would btwatch work with the LG Style-i as well?
the program seems to find the style-i but hangs when trying to connect to it
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Currently this device is not supported, as it uses far more commands than the bluetooth watches. But, btWatch could be ported to a new application to support the Style-i in the future. I will look into supporting the Style-i, but do not expect an app until btWatch is at a very stable version.
Tested the latest version with my HTC S621 and my MBW-150. After I sent myself an email to see how it works, the program crashed... I repeated the test, it crashed again.
p.s. I dont know if you have a landscape device or not, but on my Excalibur the text area gets cutoff at the bottom. It really gives it an unrefined look... :/
NRGZ28 said:
Tested the latest version with my HTC S621 and my MBW-150. After I sent myself an email to see how it works, the program crashed... I repeated the test, it crashed again.
p.s. I dont know if you have a landscape device or not, but on my Excalibur the text area gets cutoff at the bottom. It really gives it an unrefined look... :/
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Sorry to hear it crashed. Currently the app looks for an account named ActiveSync to pull email from. I will update it in a few minutes and post a version that defaults to the 1st account if this one is not found. The next version will include a place to select the account you want to check in the options menu. I will also look into having the app auto detect screen orientation, etc.
EDIT: If you downloaded v0.1.7 earlier and had trouble with appointments or email, try downloading it again. I altered the code to handle the error from the appointments menu properly and the email alerts now default to the 1st email account in the device. Please let me know if it is working better. Again, I will update the options menu of the next version to allow for account selection.
I spent the last few hours working on another update. I added a menu system accessible by holding the crown(FF). Once you enter the menu, you simply tap the upper right button to cycle through the different options. Once the menu you want is selected just wait and it will load after 3 seconds. I also added a new item in the setup menu to allow you to choose what email account to monitor (instead of just ActiveSync/Exchange).
For now I am not posting the newer version. I want to test it out tomorrow and make a few changes, but it should be posted in the next day or so.
Are these watches any good? I was thinking of buying one, but they are expensive to buy without seeing them in the flesh first.
Also other than styling are there any major differences between the mbw-100 and the mbw-150?
I'll wait for you to release the newer version, before I go though the ordeal of uninstalling smartwatch, deleting com ports, reboot, install your app... etc
Also last night the app would hang while it was drawing the EKG animation at startup. It would draw 2/3 of it and then stop. It did it a few times until I got pissed and uninstalled it. Hehe
Hey I got a question for you, pcfixitman... Do you know if it's possible to modify an app like yours to communicate with a device over the "handsfree profile" in the same manner ? Sending and receiving GSM AT commands ?
This is really cool, works like a charm on my Elfin
Thanks a bunch for this great software
Hi, this program can run whith car kit Sonyericsson whith screen for use contact ?
which watches support this protocol? How to search for them? How much does they costs?
It's not a protocol, it's an application. The model numbers are MBW-100 and MBW-150. Do your own research.... google.
I'm writing an app in MS VS 8 C++. it's for Windows Mobile. Making it to run on my Tilt.
I seem to have my code 90% there. I'm stuck on 1 last thing. I made 3 functions "handleData", "sendData", and "InitSocket".
Initsocket gets called in WinMain. works perfectly.
sendData gets called in a few places. Works perfectly.
handleData - which will process reads and closes, etc looks like it will work, but I still don't know how to call this function.
Is there a WM_XXXXX event or something that I can call my handleData with? something like a WM_SOCKET that works with a PPC? If not, how do I know when to call my handleData function?
No, there is none, you totally confuse what windows messages (WM_XXXX) are with sockets. You should call recv() on the socket and wait. Either do that on a separate thread, or via timer (and then make it non-blocking).
Hi all,
I've noticed talk of several bugs in the OEM release of the TD2. Thought it would be useful to list them here along with any relavent data. Hopefully, HTC might notice and give us fixes in a new ROM Can you prefix them with a number so we can track/comment on them more easily. (Can we sticky this thread???).
So far I have found....
1 - Green charge light sometimes never happens.
I've noticed this only when using the wall charger (PC USB charge is never a problem) that despite being on charge for hours the light remains orange and the battery level never completes the last block. If I soft reset the deivce and check again it now shows all blocks as green and charged. Before a hard-reset has resolve this but it has come back again.
2 - Alarms do not sound.
On several occasions, depsite the alarm being correctly set and a valid sound file selected no notification has occured (no screen message, vibrate, alarm sound or light flash). These seem sporadic and appear to be fixable by resetting the alarm tone.
3 - Hotmail/MSN uses GPRS/3G even when connected via wifi.
Annoying as wifi is often faster and free
4 - Constant Vibrate (or no sound) when receiving SMS message.
About 1 in 50 messages, the phone starts vibrating continuously but nothing else happens. If you turn the screen on you get the SMS sound notification and then the vibration stops. If you set SMS not to vibrate you have no way of telling you have an SMS until you next turn the phone on.
Rich
- The phone sometimes doesn't respond to turn on the screen from sleep when pressing power button
- Phone doesn't vibrate on messages when Vibrate profile is active and phone is in sleep mode
These may not be bugs but...
7. Cut/Paste is a pain... worst is cant cut and paste between different apps.
8. Dubious Keys:
- Softkey Phone and Hard key Phone
- Softkey Start and Hard key Home. Home key displays the "All Programs" similar to TF3D1. I'd prefer Start key to display "All Programs" and the Home key be link to some other user defined apps.
9. In general the UI is worst than TF3D1
Hopefully HTC can correct and improve the UI. What a shame...
TQ
Hi folks,
I don't know either if this is a bug, but it's a little annoying.
There is often a delay, after pushing the windows-button or start-button on the screen to open the Start-Menu.
Especially in the beginning it happened to me, that I pushed it again (as I thought I haven't pushed it correctly) and then it came up and shut down again.
Regards,
JTGBDR
Hi,
I doubt that WMV lag problem is also a bug in its implementation for WMV decoding.
Following is my finding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518963
jtgbdr said:
Hi folks,
I don't know either if this is a bug, but it's a little annoying.
There is often a delay, after pushing the windows-button or start-button on the screen to open the Start-Menu.
Especially in the beginning it happened to me, that I pushed it again (as I thought I haven't pushed it correctly) and then it came up and shut down again.
Regards,
JTGBDR
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This is exactly the sort of unresponsiveness that's going to make me get an iphone if WM6.5 doesn't impress me.
If GPS looses fix whilst in use (by moving underground or indoors), its never able to recover even when there is clear line of sight to the sky.
Only resolution (and very messy one at that) is a reboot, upon which GPS fix is attained immediately.
most annoying.
- Delivery notification for text messages in HTC text editor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518306
- Sentences won't start with a Capital in HTC Text editor
In the standard Windows text editor, The first character in a sentence is converted the capital equivalent.
- Alarm at 6:00 isn't deactivated (quite annoying in weekends !)
When I change my alarm time or deactive my alarms .. one alarm will still go off.
- No cut/paste in most TouchFlo apps
Really a pain in the ass sometimes.
-TomTom voicecutting
Easy solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513621
New features that I would like:
- Weekly view for the calendar !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (can't stress this enough ).
- Being able to link an unknown email address (from within an email) to an existing contact (and not only to a new one).
- Some others ut can't remember them right now
kly said:
- Delivery notification for text messages in HTC text editor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518306
- Sentences won't start with a Capital in HTC Text editor
In the standard Windows text editor, The first character in a sentence is converted the capital equivalent.
- Alarm at 6:00 isn't deactivated (quite annoying in weekends !)
When I change my alarm time or deactive my alarms .. one alarm will still go off.
- No cut/paste in most TouchFlo apps
Really a pain in the ass sometimes.
-TomTom voicecutting
Easy solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513621
New features that I would like:
- Weekly view for the calendar !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (can't stress this enough ).
- Being able to link an unknown email address (from within an email) to an existing contact (and not only to a new one).
- Some others ut can't remember them right now
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Almost all of these problems are solved by switching off TF3D2. I've done so and pretty much all of my problems have gone away. I've got more free memory, the phone runs a lot faster and all those little niggles like yours have vanished. It might not be as pretty, but if pretty is your thing then get an iphone ;O)
WM6.5 will pretty much make TF3D2 redundant anyway...
New features that I would like on TD2 TF3D are the capability to sort the contacts by company on and the capability to show on home screen the tasks for the present day...
the_one_and_only said:
New features that I would like on TD2 TF3D are the capability to sort the contacts by company on and the capability to show on home screen the tasks for the present day...
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Just turn off TF3D and your wishes are granted.
Incidentally, another TF3D bug: When sending a text, if it fails to send, TF3D gives you no way top resend it. You have to go to the standard WM6.1 SMS application and do it from there, unless you want to retype the whole thing.
Oh and another one (more of an annoyance than a bug) - TF3D won't allow you to change the "File as" when creating a contact, you have to (again) go into the standard Contacts screen to do this. Really annoying when you're adding the contact for a company and want him filed under the company name.
I've found TF3D to be more of a hindrance than a help.
- network key gets lost when switching between networks (and then can't paste it back in with TF3D interface, need to use WM native app)
- text messages recevied without a number (for example train company alerts, bank, phone company) are not viewable when clicked on !. They show on the home screen but then don't show in the contact centric view - and you can't add them as a contact because there's no number
- sending emails via wi-fi works intermittently. I can receive Ok but sometimes need to open a phone data connection to send
West12 said:
...and then can't paste it back in with TF3D interface, need to use WM native app
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This is a huge problem throughout the TF3D interface - I don't understand how, while attempting to add some gloss to the WinMo experience, HTC managed to remove so much basic functionality.
I've been running without TF3D for a couple of days now and I'm finding the experience to be quite liberating, if a little graphically dull. Everything works as it should and is nice and snappy. I'd recommend giving it a go for maybe a week, see how you get on. To my mind, the big problem with TF3D is it's only any good if you want to do anything really basic. The moment you need to do anything slightly different, TF3D gets in the way as you have to dig through the gloss to get back to the original WM6.1 applications, which, after all, do have all the functionality. Better, to my mind, to drop the gloss and get all that nice functionality right from the start.
Heck, without TF3D I actually now get automatic capitalization at the start of every sentence when texting and emailing!
in File Explorer you cannot select multiple files because TF3D scrolls the list instead of selecting a range, and there's no way to tell it to select when i drag instead of scroll like opera does. Extremely annoying when having to move photos from internal ram to storage card, speaking of which...
If you plug in a USB host and select "Mass storage device" with the camera application open, then close Camera, it saves its setting to save photos in internal memory. So next time you open it without USB mass storage device enabled you end up with everything in internal memory - which you cant access through the USB mass storage mode... again extremely annoying and fiddly to sort out the mess it makes (see above) -
That's exactly what I mean. TF3D causes far more problems than it solves. To my mind, it's a marketing gimmick to help sell more phones - functionality-wise it's rubbish.
In the normal WinMo6.1 today screen, for instance, the Calendar widget shows me my next appointment, even if it's several days away. TF3D? Unless the appointment is today or tomorrow, you can forget it. Wanna know how many tasks you've got outstanding? Not in TF3D.
How about using a lock password that only activates if I haven't used my phone for 15 minutes? Impossible in TF3D.
TF3D has gloss. That's just about it.
I like it, just needs a few improvements - it's not going to remain buggy forever - so we shouldn't write it off straight away.
Yes your right they did it to sell more phones, but so did apple with the iPhone, because consumers like swishy smooth sliding things, not clunky window ce interfaces..
I used to go through hell every morning trying to drive windows ce just to shut my alarm up, or alter the alarm time, now i can do it my sleep.
I've heard MS have commisioned HTC to work on standard interfaces for windows mobile, so I'm sure they'll be watching this thread.
Get your bugs in and help change a good step into the right direction to a massive leap forward that you can't live without...
be +ive!
I expect WM6.5 will be out before a new version of TF3D.
I hear you talking about TF3D2 like it's crap.
It has its bugs and flaws, but there are some things you forgot to mention:
1. I replaced my standard Touch (yes, the first one) for the TD2
Why ?
I had to use my stylus for every single thing ... not really convenient right ?
With the TD2 I almost never have to use it, except for playing Bubble Breaker
There are some exceptions, but they are very rare.
And that's one of the biggest advantages of TF3D2.
Ofcourse, with WM6.5 on the way, it's possible I'll have to agree with you and shut down TF3D2 ... I'm pretty sure HTC will release a new version of TF3D2 when it's out though !
We'll see who's right in a few months ... but for now, TF3D2 is the way to go !
2. Why give up on such a great modification of HTC ?
It combines the usability of WM with a touch (literally) of gloss ... AND functionality.
The new people centric way of working is just awesome for example .. and it's not the only thing.
But nevertheless .. I have to agree ... it takes away some standard functionality of (compared to other mobile OS's) strong WM.
On the other hand, it adds lots of it ... meaning with a small number of bugfixes, it CAN be awesome (which WM standard is NOT).
Greets
I'm perfectly capable of using the standard WM6.1 without a stylus 90% of the time. I understand people with big hands might not though. The "People-centric" thing in TF3D isn't something I use to be honest, I've never needed to see all the different means I've used of communicating with a specific person. *shrug*.
Compare to this: Without TF3D, my today screen now gives me the following info, all WITHOUT EVEN TOUCHING THE PHONE except to turn it on...
Current playing music: artist, album, track, track number
All upcoming appointments
How many unread messages I have in each email account and in SMS/MMS
How many unread RSS headlines
The date and day of the week and time
A list of my outstanding todos
What scheduled direct debits and standing orders are due o my bank accounts
My current status in Windows Messenger
A Live Search bar
A Tomtom button
And that's just for starters, I could add tons more just by downloading plugins.
That is a shedload more functionality than TF3D.
BUT - I'm not saying everyone should ditch TF3D - some people value gloss over functionality, and that's why the iPhone is selling so well.
Some people might value this people-centric thing over knowing what todos they have or what music they're listening to. That's fine!
You got me on one point though ... Windows' customizability.
That's something you'll have to lose when using TF3D2.
-I don't use my mobile as a music player for now (will do that when I receive the USB to audio jack to connect it to my car's audio).
-I never use RSS
-I can see the amount of mails / SMS's I received.
-Upcoming appointments ... I can understand people complaining when they're only able to view the ones from the current and the next day.
On the otherhand, that list would be larger than one complete screen, so no biggy here for me.
A list of appointments is inconvenient and not structured enough.
That is why I liked the week view of WM ... and that's a great miss in TF3D2 in my case !
- I include a reminder for my todo's (tasks) ... otherwise I will still forget things ... I'm not the kind of person who checks the task list enough ... the reminders work for me.
- Don't use Messenger on my mobile ... it would drive me nuts ... I spend enough time reading my mails
- I rather prefer the Opera toolbar if I want to search for information, so no live search for me.
- Tomtom button ... could be handy indeed !
I just like the 'tabs' working way.
It gets you information you want in a structured manner.
If I list the weather, the number of missed calls, the time, my appointments, mails, todo's, ... all on one screen .. I'll get lost ... just too many TEXT on one screen !
That's why I like the tabs.
But to completely compare ... I should try to use it without TF3D for one week.
Maybe I'll write my plugins for the home screen one day ... to adapt them to my personal needs ..
But indeed ... I'm also waiting for the WM 6.5 release ... one of the reasons why I bought this phone.
Greets
I got myself this phone some time ago: http://www.solonomi.com/index.php/m...gps-wifi-word-excel-msn-and-dual-cameras.html
I'm quite happy with it, but I need help, maybe a registry hack, to overcome a little problem it has.
The problem is that the Enter key on the qwerty keyboard, when used inside Word Mobile or other word processors (I've already tried DocumentsToGo and Softmaker Office 2008) acts as the Ok button, so, instead of inserting a blank line, Word saves the file and closes it. I've installed FingerKeyboard and I can overcome the problem using the virtual keyboard, but that's pretty annoying.
The most strange thing is that I've seen it randomly working like it should, but I can't find a way to make that the default behaviour.
Thanks in advance.