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I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
I used unrEVOked Forever and rooted my phone. It was easy and quick. It rooted it and kept the stock rom. I used it for like 2 weeks then decided I would try Warm. If you use unrEVOked, it should keep the stock rom and be rooted. After that, it's your choice to swap roms. I like Warm because it has the stock Sprint hotspot enabled.
parker81 said:
I really would like the ability to completely backup my Evo, wipe batt stats, clear caches, wifi tether, and some other things but I DONT WANT A CUSTOM ROM.
i am perfectly happy with stock sprint rom.
everywere i read about rooting the way the tutorials are worded they make it sound like you have to use a custom rom...
id like to use unrEVOked.
could someone help me out, thanks...
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
You don't have to use a custom rom unrevoked installs a stock rooted and you can still update it ota but you loose root if you do custom roms sometimes add some tweaks and functionality that you don't get from stock so they are worth looking at.
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You can do all of that and still use a stock ROM.
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thanks guys for the super fast replies...
i can just use unrEVOked3 right?
it sounds like unrEVOked forever is geared more towards someone want to use custom roms...
i also found this tut..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWm8262iMU&annotation_id=annotation_81633&feature=iv
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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firestetz said:
Use unrevoked forever after unrevoked 3 so you have nand unlocked to do the full backups the other reason is you can get root back slot easier after update
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i have to use both?
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No. Unrevoked3 unlocks nand. I only used that and I've flashed several custom ROMs.
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Your right it does but if you read on just about any forum here it's not a full unlock but by using unrevoked forever you get s-off or security-off which when you're talking about stock rooted lets you upgrade and root without waiting for someone else to produce a stock rooted update rom.
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Okay...I am curious. I what will of do to my HTC Evo? What will of allow me to do and what problems will it cause? I see people writing about having problems when they root. Is the Unrevoked way a "safer" generic way of rooting?
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I'm new too flashing roms and all and I just rooted my evo yesterday from Unrevoked it was kinda easy I only did it cuz I wanted the free wireless tether app.my take is u get seamless options.I'm hoping I can install a custom theme to my stock rom.gl
Is it does it give you an option to unrest in just in case you have to take it into Sprint for warranty purposes?
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Yes you can unroot if you need to. You don't do it through unrevoked but by running something called the stock ruu. Its an .exe file. Its pretty simple and once you start reading threads and flashing roms and such you will understand more.
I used unrevoked a few weeks ago and have no problems. Only good came of it. I have free WiFi wireless tether,removed unwanted bloatware, and get to use some apps that only work with rooted devices.
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What would I need to do/download to be able to het my phone back to its original setting?
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You would need a stock RUU installer i believe.
Flash the unrevoked s-on tool and then run the latest ruu.
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What would I need to do/download to be able to het my phone back to its original setting?
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Has Unrevoked ever bricked anyone's phone...that is known of?
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Also, how do I know which one to do? Unrevoked3 or Unrevoked forever. Then, do I do it for Linux or Windows or Mac OS?
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you just use unrevoked 3. the forever radio s-off exploit is included. people have gotten bricked phones from it, but not many. i'd run it on mac because it is by far the easiest (one click versus windows driver install, more drivers, instructions, one more driver, then one click).
then again, i would use the zikronix method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
it is much more difficult, but once you are done, you are an android expert. you know everything there is to know (almost). with unrevoked, you know bubkus...
(i always wanted to use that word)
just use unrevoked and be done with it
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just use unrevoked and be done with it
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sure, and be an absolute blank in android for months. have no idea what you are doing, and find out you cant upgrade to gingerbread when it comes out. try and flash the rom, and brick your phone cuz u dont kno how. OR use the link i posted. not as hard as you think. i'm always open to helping people on that too.
Is this way of rooting the HTC evo up to date? Does it matter that my phone was just updated through Sprint?
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*facepalm*
www.unrevoked.com
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
now try the search button. very helpful.
Im rooted with Unrevoked,, Can I install custom roms with it ?
I am rooted with Unrevoked 3 , But I would like to install custom rom Kings Bad Luck Rom. Can I do that withe Unrevoked?
engelsione said:
I am rooted with Unrevoked 3 , But I would like to install custom rom Kings Bad Luck Rom. Can I do that withe Unrevoked?
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10char
Roots and NAND Unlocks EVO for rom flashing and updating firmware components as well as the bootloader,
I used Unrevoked to root
Unrevoked-Forever to NAND unlock,
and a restore to stock via a RUU + Unrevoked-SON will basically undo EVERYTHING and get you back to an Out of Box configuration
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Unrevoked roots AND nand unlocks. FORGET ABOUT UNREVOKED FOREVER. You DO NOT need it. Unrevoked forever makes your phone easily rootable even if you install an over the air update. But it unlocks your bootloader forever which permanently voids your warranty. Root your Evo with Unrevoked and just don't accept an over the air update. So if you even get a screen saying there is an update available just click no and carry on with your life. Easy enough. Head over to xda once you see that update notification and there will be a pre-rooted version of the update for you. This way you'll still be able to unroot when you need warranty repairs.
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Unrevoked Forever is included in Unrevoked3, and no, it's not permanent. Flash the S-ON tool and run a RUU, and you're back to stock and your warranty is good again.
my favorite part of uv-forever is if you run an ruu but dont flash s-on then you can easily re-root.
Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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Sorry if this has been discussed. I used unrevoked to get super user access to my incredible and now want to delete that stupid slacker radio, vcast, and VZW navigator crap. Do I have to install a rom? I like sense and don't like messing too much with the phone. I have been running stock software on it for almost a year and only just now rooted using unervoked to install a screenshot app. I hate those bloatware apps with a passion but have put up with them ... now that I have root access I can't uninstall using the normal means. Is there a workaround to get rid of them without installing a rom?
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You can install custom ROMs that basically mirror the stock ROM but it has bloatware removed. Just look carefully.
The sticky at the top of the forum links to a lot of FAQ's like this one
In particular:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Incredible/Guides&Tutorials#Removing_Bloat
Even easier, you can use Titanium Backup to do it. Or Root Explorer. Or pretty much any app that can write to the system partition with SU access.
Oh and sorry I am using tapatalk and couldn't find the search feature to reply in thread about bloatware. Accept my apology.
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
BrettApple said:
Or, if you don't mind wiping. You can install Nothing Special.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976933
It's a stock rom with bloat already removed.
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This is the easiest way IMHO.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
Guess I'm just worried ill brick it. This thing is my pride and joy and if I broke it I would cry.
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It's almost impossible to brick, it's become so easy to flash roms, root, etc.
Just factory reset if you want to go back. Kinda the point of flashing is to get the latest greatest before it is released. Oh, all all those goodies I am sure they will omit.
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Ok. So if I flash will I get VZW OTA if they push it out of 2.3? ... since I rooted using unrevoked, but if I don't flash will I get the OTA to 2.3?
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The devs here are beating the piss out of VZW OTA's. Just flash a custom 2.3 ROM.
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Hi I'm new to the custom rom's and instead of searching through countless topics, mixing up instructions. I was wondering if I could get some directions.
Play is unrooted 2.3.3. I would like instructions on how to put a custom rom on the phone, and which custom rom would be recommended. Thanks in advance people.
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is your phone fastboot enabled? (does the notification light in the power button turn blue if you hold the search button and then connect the usb to computer?)
If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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If you want a custom rom but dont want to search and read these forums, i give your phone a week before you brick it.
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or we could help people within the comunity to understand what's out there, the risks involved and how to get around the problems that could arise? we all need things explaining to us once in a while.
Oh im sorry i see your point, it is always good to be helpful, i am trying to be helpful as well when i say you should search and read, i mean look at all the countless threads where people didnt want to read, theres like 3 help im bricked threads per page.
lol. i know what you mean. and i know it can be frustrating. it's just a shame that the play is so much more complicated than the x10 that i was previously on. it was all flashtool and update.zip stuff. practically unbrickable!! loved it. fastboot and adb complicate things, and i feel that some of the tutorials can be a little confusing to total noobs. so we need to be accomodating to their lack of knowledge (i hardly know anything, so i'm still quite noobish), but also, people need to accept their own actions and consequences. not sure what i'm getting at now, but things need to be simpler for people who want to start out
Actually the way of installation is exactly the same for any custom ROM in this phone.
1) unlock your bootloader, either for free if you bought a factory unlocked phone or for some cash sending Alejandrissimo a PM, which you have to use if your phone is branded and/or Sim locked. You only need to do this step once.
2) install a custom kernel. There are two: DoomLord's kernel and the Cyanogen Mod kernel. The latter allows you only to install CM7. Doom's allows you to install the others.
3) Enter in Clockwork Mod recovery and install the ROM you prefer as long as your kernel of choice supports it.
As to which ROM you should pick, I use CM7 because it's stable and fast. Visit those threads and see for yourself which is the one you like best.
my personal favorite (until cm7 became more usable, and also because i like dooms kernel) was zerojay's aptly named zerorom. it's a very clean and fast sony based rom full of optimizations and tweaks. i'm currently trying out the FXP028 release of cm7 to see if it's more to my liking than it was in previous releases.
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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8ballhacker said:
Unfortunately locked to Rogers. Is there a free way of unlocking the bootloader and how?
Again I'm currently running 2.3.3 nonrooted. Had it rooted on 2. 3. 2. but ofcourse lost it with update.
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No there isnt.
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If you want root get wantonserver and flash na generic 2.3.2 root it with gingerbreak and then ota update to 2.3.3+
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No there isnt.
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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well, one free way could be if you could swap a branded phone to someone who doesnt care and has a generic model
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True, but paying $20 dollars to get it unlocked sounds like less of a pain in the ass
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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Bump, has anyone been able to get Cyanogen mod onto the Rogers r800a? This locked boot loader is really causing me grief. Have the phone rooted, cwr is installed as well as busy Box. Getting closer, but still no cigar.
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You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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AndroHero said:
You can flash CM7, but i doubt it will boot with stock kernel.
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Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
mcorbeil said:
Just to confirm, without the proper Kernel I am more than likely to brick my play? Many Thanks!
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You won't brick it, if kernel is incompatible device with either not boot, or bootloop, flahing stock rom with flashtool will fix it though.
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However I'm still hesitant. Has anyone noticed a boost in battery or performance after removing the VZW crap ware? This phone seems to have the best stock ui experience next to the nexus phones, and I'm really not looking to ruin that. Any pointers on what is best practice?
I understand unlocking to bootloader, and have been there before with the droid eris and inc 2, but with a poly fuse I'm just not ready to break in yet.
I guess I just need some good convincing.
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I noticed that after I removed the moto service that it had less wake lock time. But I'm running Carbon now so I can't quite remember the amount of benefits.
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However I'm still hesitant. Has anyone noticed a boost in battery or performance after removing the VZW crap ware? This phone seems to have the best stock ui experience next to the nexus phones, and I'm really not looking to ruin that. Any pointers on what is best practice?
I understand unlocking to bootloader, and have been there before with the droid eris and inc 2, but with a poly fuse I'm just not ready to break in yet.
I guess I just need some good convincing.
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not really sure how much battery life you are looking for, as the device gets 1 day+ stock, and still gets that rooted/debloated. performance does increase though when debloating.
one last benefit is that rooted folks are now on JB 4.2.2 (fully working too!) - not sure when that will be pushed by the carriers.
otherwise, the customization is the key.
I rooted my M long before I decided to put pacman rom on. I didn't really notice any difference in battery life. Biggest reason for me was so that I could use titanium backup to backup my apps. If you do decide to remove the bloat, make sure you do a nandroid backup for when the official upgrade comes out.
Nice, yeah just a little snappier... less bloat. That's all I'm looking for, stock this thing is great. The tool available in the forums, would that enable me to restore my firmware to stock w/o needing to be unlocked?
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8on3s said:
Nice, yeah just a little snappier... less bloat. That's all I'm looking for, stock this thing is great. The tool available in the forums, would that enable me to restore my firmware to stock w/o needing to be unlocked?
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there are some TWRP flashable ROMs that take you back to stock.
Rooting alone will not allow you to get to 4.2.2. That's a benefit of unlocking the bootloader.
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Rooting alone will not allow you to get to 4.2.2. That's a benefit of unlocking the bootloader.
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yeah not worried about the 4.2.2 just making sure the tool will root/allow me to revert to stock if need be, and not trip the fuse, that's only on the boot loader correct?
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yeah not worried about the 4.2.2 just making sure the tool will root/allow me to revert to stock if need be, and not trip the fuse, that's only on the boot loader correct?
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just use safe strap so u dont have to unlock your bootloader and dont touch the stock slot, then u can just uninstall safe strap and un root when u want to return to stock.
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just use safe strap so u dont have to unlock your bootloader and dont touch the stock slot, then u can just uninstall safe strap and un root when u want to return to stock.
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yeah but you won't get any up to date ROMs using safe strap as its been all but abandoned now that the bootloader has been unlocked. I rooted and stayed stock for the longest (until the bootloader unlock exploit) and was perfectly happy. All I wanted was to use root apps anyway but now that the bootloader is unlocked I have a proper nand back up of the stock rom and can flash and try at will. the space requirements for safe strap killed the appeal of that for me, especially with the inability to move apps to sd.
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yeah but you won't get any up to date ROMs using safe strap as its been all but abandoned now that the bootloader has been unlocked. I rooted and stayed stock for the longest (until the bootloader unlock exploit) and was perfectly happy. All I wanted was to use root apps anyway but now that the bootloader is unlocked I have a proper nand back up of the stock rom and can flash and try at will. the space requirements for safe strap killed the appeal of that for me, especially with the inability to move apps to sd.
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oh i know this, but if you read the thread you would see he does not want to unlock his bootloader.
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oh i know this, but if you read the thread you would see he does not want to unlock his bootloader.
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Lol no problem, I'm sure as the year passes I will consider unlocking. This phone is such a solid upgrade from what I have had in the past, I'm not too concerned about it. The root was simple, and freezing the useless apps was good enough for my current needs. Thanks for the information though.
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Lol no problem, I'm sure as the year passes I will consider unlocking. This phone is such a solid upgrade from what I have had in the past, I'm not too concerned about it. The root was simple, and freezing the useless apps was good enough for my current needs. Thanks for the information though.
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I used fast boot to patch the boot logo to get rid of the nag screen. There's a post in the Dev section that runs through the steps.
That way, most customer reps can't tell the difference if you have a warranty issue.
Of course, iirc, you can run an RSD flash to return to a locked bootloader, too, should you need to take care of a warranty issue, too.
If I'm wrong on that, feel free to correct me, everyone
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I used fast boot to patch the boot logo to get rid of the nag screen. There's a post in the Dev section that runs through the steps.
That way, most customer reps can't tell the difference if you have a warranty issue.
Of course, iirc, you can run an RSD flash to return to a locked bootloader, too, should you need to take care of a warranty issue, too.
If I'm wrong on that, feel free to correct me, everyone
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I understood the unlocking was done by "breaking" a Polly fuse that cannot be re-written, perhaps one could trick the boot loader.
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I understood the unlocking was done by "breaking" a Polly fuse that cannot be re-written, perhaps one could trick the boot loader.
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Oh ****. They're QFuses, so unlocking is permanent. You're right.
Anyway, RSD will rewrite the recovery partition back to stock, so only people who know of the fast boot screen can find out. If they even remember to check it.
That means that people who get my devices once they've been refurbished (my phones like to overheat, no matter what model) have the bootloader unlocked already. Sweet.
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