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is there anyway or any application that is out there that will let you browse the web and talk om the phone at the same time?
If you have GSM then you can do that without any special app. If you have CDMA then you can't do that unless you're connected via wifi.
Yup wifi and phone works really well LOL...
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
bokechukwu1 said:
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
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Just came out? AFAIK 3G on AT&T's network thats one of the benefits. I believe all 3G smartphones that had web browsing had voice capabilities at the same time... that's part of what 3G on a GSM network creates.
You can talk and surf in AT&T 3G network for sure. I am not sure if it works on T-mobile though. I would think it should, as it looks like it depends on technology and not the network itself!
bokechukwu1 said:
you can do this with t mobile???? I know att just came out with this on their network i dont believe this is possible with t mobile
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i just tested this the other day after watching a commercial asking if my phone and carrier could do it. answer....yes! i called my wife, put the phone on speaker phone, opened opera and browsed, opened google maps and checked out some street view and did a little binging. worked great all the while talking on speaker phone in the background.
edit: i was on a 3g connection.
jlavoie said:
i just tested this the other day after watching a commercial asking if my phone and carrier could do it. answer....yes! i called my wife, put the phone on speaker phone, opened opera and browsed, opened google maps and checked out some street view and did a little binging. worked great all the while talking on speaker phone in the background.
edit: i was on a 3g connection.
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So I guess AT&T is full of crap! Hmmm whats new!!!LOL
Yea you can do this only with 3G connection. Cuz you are using E to talk I would assume! And 3G for data...
this is only possible using a GSM network(at&t, t-mobile...etc) without using wifi.
3g makes no difference in this situation.Verizon & Sprint run on CDMA networks and is not possible to "talk & surf" at the same time
ai6908 said:
So I guess AT&T is full of crap! Hmmm whats new!!!LOL
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Well the commercial is a response commercial to Verizon's ads... so at least in this case they aren't full of crap. Verizon's 3G network is based on EV-DO Rev A. You get the speeds of a 3G GSM connection but you don't get the simul voice/data functionality.
joeyc1123 said:
this is only possible using a GSM network(at&t, t-mobile...etc) without using wifi.
3g makes no difference in this situation.Verizon & Sprint run on CDMA networks and is not possible to "talk & surf" at the same time
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AT&T does not support browse/talk on its Edge network. So if your phone steps down to an Edge connection you lose that ability. AFAIK Edge CAN support the functionality its just that AT&T doesn't support it.
I will check on verizon when I get a chance, but if you look in the Kaiser forum, I showed everyone there in a thread how to get this functionality b'c the carriers (US) usually strip it out to preserve bandwidth. It has to do with the RIL settings in your provisioning xml. beeen a few years, but it is there if you want to dig. Look in kaiser rom development. Also, it has to be cooked in. the provisioning registry changes will always revert back to OEM settings if not cooked in.
It is not a matter of carrier but a matter of technology. Edge and 3G are akin to narrowband and broadband for landlines. Just like you can't talk and surf the web and talk on the phone on dialup but can on DSL. It's simply a matter of bandwidth.
To explain this in a more simple matter, 3g is essentially a CDMA connection. Being that CDMA carriers use said transmission for voice, they cannot use data and voice simultaneously. However, with t-mobile and at&t, voice is transmitted over the GSM radio and a 2nd radio is present which carries the CDMA 3g technology. If said GSM device looses that 3g service and falls back to edge or gprs, the simultaneous voice and data becomes inoperable. The key part to this is that a 2nd radio transmission takes place to allow the simultaneous transmission of both services. I have often wondered, however, why other carriers like sprint and Verizon don't incorporate a 2nd radio in their devices to simultaneously connect two CDMA transmissions similar to how a TIVO/DVR box works with cable/satellite services to allow the viewing of one channel while recording another. This functionality would allow them to compete with the GSM carriers.
cdma gsm
I know that when I used to work for ATTWS (long time ago), they were freaking out about the new carriers rolling in with CDMA (some with hybrid AMPS and D-AMPS 850 mhz spectrum) because, in theory CDMA should wax TDMA's call load significantly. TDMA, at that time could only hold 3 calls per channel. So about (here comes a geeky number) every 6.67 ms the calls on the channel would switch functions. Only one could TX, one could RX, and the other was Idle.... this was all transparent to the caller of course.. CDMA rolls around with the theory that becasue it's data piggy backed on the channel, it would increase their call handling ability 10 fold. Unfortunately theory didn't work out to real work practicality b/c the new PCS CDMA carriers really had about the same call capacity as everyone else.
Now, I've always touted VZW speeds here in my market bc TMO didn't even have 3g here till like 6 months to a year ago.. .and AT&T's 3G was laugable here in Jacksonville...might as well have kept the E or G icons on the phone for as slow as things ran.... HSDPA and UMTS could put a cramp on VZWs claim to speed...as long as they can get it consistent nationwide... I'd be tempted to leave for the right data speeds.....but for now, I'm in love with my overpriced VZW plan because of the coverage, quality, and speed..... who knows what tomorrow will bring.
Sorry for the long post, but it takes a bit to explain it.. (even though most of you know it.)
Thanks,
Nate
its working for me i'm on the phone talking while surfing now i have been doing it for about 30 minutes with no disconnection
gfloyd45 said:
its working for me i'm on the phone talking while surfing now i have been doing it for about 30 minutes with no disconnection
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I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
Surf and talk on Att !?
bsg411 said:
I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
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Can anybody do this without being on wifi ?
bsg411 said:
I can only do talk and surf if I have wifi on.....I cant do it otherwise Do you have to do anything special to get the talk and surf to work on GSM on ATT?
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When you say it doesn't work for you, does your notification bar show 3G-or-H or does it show E? It won't work if it's E.
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When you say it doesn't work for you, does your notification bar show 3G-or-H or does it show E? It won't work if it's E.
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Yes my phone shows H when I'm trying to surf and talk. I think since I have a cooked rom, it may have altered my stock internet configuration and proxy settings or something and now it doesnt work.....idunno......thats my guess. Hoping one of you guys have the answer.
Thats definitely the problem make sure proxy is off and your connections setting are going to the MEdiaNet server and that should fix it.
I googled and can't find a download for verizon 2010 PRLs. Anyone have a link or can rip it from their phone??
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I googled and can't find a download for verizon 2010 PRLs. Anyone have a link or can rip it from their phone??
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This is the Sprint Evo forum. Maybe try a Verizon forum?
I was thinking someone here already had it ripped out of a verizon phone for their use on the Evo too
HERE are a few Verizon PRL's I keep around. There is a 51926 in there, I think from June or July of this year. Also some 65 series PRL's, but I haven't used any of them. I can verify that at least in Vancouver, WA I get great voice and 3G signal with the 51 series PRL's, cant really tell the difference between them, 518, 516, 517, 519, all good for me. Roaming triangle taunts me the whole time though,
Also, link in my sig for some other PRL's for the VZW 3G hack.
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HERE are a few Verizon PRL's I keep around. There is a 51926 in there, I think from June or July of this year. Also some 65 series PRL's, but I haven't used any of them. I can verify that at least in Vancouver, WA I get great voice and 3G signal with the 51 series PRL's, cant really tell the difference between them, 518, 516, 517, 519, all good for me. Roaming triangle taunts me the whole time though,
Also, link in my sig for some other PRL's for the VZW 3G hack.
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Thanks but i've tried 25 roams through out the month with altel/verizon and I always get 1x with 1 BAR. the only difference is some PRLs show the roam sign and others don't. This one even gave me the Roaming symbol.....What could the problem be????
I really don't know what the issue could be. I know that all the PRL's I linked will roam on 3G, so ???
JTNiggle said:
I really don't know what the issue could be. I know that all the PRL's I linked will roam on 3G, so ???
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Well they jump back and forth from Evd and Evdo_A when I sit the phone with 1 bar. But if I try to use the phone it jumps back down to 1xrrt with 1 or 2 bars at times. I'm kind of new to the hacking scene but I think everyone thing is good on my end. Unless there are other things you suppose to do after changing your PRL?
I'm no hacker myself, so at this point I don't know what else to look at.
Whenever I run any of these PRL's, I always have my network set to Sprint only, I turn off data roaming and make sure always on mobile data is enabled. But, even at the worst, I get intermittent data loss, but never get anything other then 3g. Have you tried the 00001 and 01337 prl's from the roam hack thread?
For me, on CM6.1, if I run any of the verizon PRL's, and select Sprint Only in the wireless networks menu, I roam on VZW 3G. If I switch to Affiliated Networks setting, I will drop all signal cause it gets confused I guess. If I change back to a Sprint PRL, and Affiliated Networks, I get good voice signal, but show 1x for data. As soon as I put it back to Sprint only, my data returns to 3g.
On any new froyo sense rom, it's almost impossible to tell. A bug that seems like it may be intentional has popped up. My phone will not show 1x, but only 3g. Even when I'm on a sprint prl, and confirmed to be roaming, which would be 1x, It still shows 3g. I dug into the rom, and the icons are there, they just don't show up on a lot of sense rom's
How are you able to tell what evdo ur on? Are you on an Evo?
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I'm no hacker myself, so at this point I don't know what else to look at.
Whenever I run any of these PRL's, I always have my network set to Sprint only, I turn off data roaming and make sure always on mobile data is enabled. But, even at the worst, I get intermittent data loss, but never get anything other then 3g. Have you tried the 00001 and 01337 prl's from the roam hack thread?
For me, on CM6.1, if I run any of the verizon PRL's, and select Sprint Only in the wireless networks menu, I roam on VZW 3G. If I switch to Affiliated Networks setting, I will drop all signal cause it gets confused I guess. If I change back to a Sprint PRL, and Affiliated Networks, I get good voice signal, but show 1x for data. As soon as I put it back to Sprint only, my data returns to 3g.
On any new froyo sense rom, it's almost impossible to tell. A bug that seems like it may be intentional has popped up. My phone will not show 1x, but only 3g. Even when I'm on a sprint prl, and confirmed to be roaming, which would be 1x, It still shows 3g. I dug into the rom, and the icons are there, they just don't show up on a lot of sense rom's
How are you able to tell what evdo ur on? Are you on an Evo?
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Theres a app called Cellumap and Phonestatus in the marketplace. It tells you the network your phone is on and cellular provider.
I'm using the sprint lovers CUSTOM rom. I guess I'll switch to cm6 custom rom like you are using and set it up like you mentioned. so I'll give this a try tommorow(sunday) and report back. but I think it's just the RURAL area I live in but then again Verizon has full coverage according to their map...
yeah, probably just ur area. You should call Verizon and tell them about the issue
You could say something like, "hey, I'm trying to use your expanded 3g service for free, but all I get is 1x. Can you give me an ETA as to when this will be fixed?" That would be fun!
I'll give those apps a try on my end and see what I get.
Well, I'm getting EVDO rev a on most of these. Provider shows digital roaming but still says Sprint. Confirmed speed tests at just under 1mbs and dialing a number without area code sends me to Verizon error message.
That is with the 51 and 41 PRL's.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
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Well, I'm getting EVDO rev a on most of these. Provider shows digital roaming but still says Sprint. Confirmed speed tests at just under 1mbs and dialing a number without area code sends me to Verizon error message.
That is with the 51 and 41 PRL's.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
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Aw great for you ... well I'm installing this cyanogenmod6.1 custom rom and see what it does on a different rom I guess. If not I don't know what else I could, probably no roaming agreement with Verizon(altell had my area covered before Verizon bought them so Verizon really never had towers here....)
Ah, so that's why you were looking for the newest PRL. I would think you could get it to work with the right PRL.
Hey... This thing makes phone calls too!
I was on the Phone with Dell trying to order my new Sony Bravia TV and I was trying to use the internet so I could give the rep the proper item number. To my surprise I couldnt surf the web and do voice at the same time. I thought on GSM network this was possible. When I had Cingular a few years back this was possible. What gives? Why am I not about to do both at the same time?
That's strange. I've been on the phone and surfed the internet and/or used most of the other functions on the phone at the same time.
I've had no problems talking and surfing at the same time provided I had a 3G signal. Maybe you were in a marginal reception area and the signal wasn't solid but it does work.
I dont know why it didnt work, and it sorta pissed me off, does it have to be 3g in order to do voice and data
937dytboi said:
I dont know why it didnt work, and it sorta pissed me off, does it have to be 3g in order to do voice and data
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Nope. This is my first 3g phone on t-mobile. Never had a problem with edge voice + data
937dytboi said:
I was on the Phone with Dell trying to order my new Sony Bravia TV and I was trying to use the internet so I could give the rep the proper item number. To my surprise I couldnt surf the web and do voice at the same time. I thought on GSM network this was possible. When I had Cingular a few years back this was possible. What gives? Why am I not about to do both at the same time?
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Was data working otherwise in that area? I've been in some areas where data doesn't work at all.
it should have been.
On edge I can't get consistant voice and data with any phone I've ever had, it is more consistant when getting a 3G signal.
You need a 3G signal to do Voice + Data as 2G (G)PRS nor 2.5G (E)DGE have enough bandwidth to support both.
Just a heads up for those in Florida. Apparently for a few hours now data has been down. Sprint supervisor "Patrick" told me the whole state was affected. Should be back up by morning. He advises to turn off/on the device every hour to check for service.
Don't panic!
Service in SFL sucks on the regular anyway.
I never lost service and I'm just east of bradenton FL had service all night long voice and data and I had killer speeds around 230am I was pulling 2.6mbps cuz my netflix never had to buffer once so i checked speedtest when I tethered to send out a large file for work(700mb) and it sent in ~20 mins so I was like damn whys that so fast and decided to check
Edit: I was watching blackhawk down on netflix while I was sending the email too
Well that is pretty good i must say. I never really use speed tests but o can tell you here in miramar (hood) it takes forever to buffer anything on 3g, loading webpages is a pain, downloading podcasts is hit or miss, phone calls may only ring twice because it took forever for the caller to get connected, and other hiccups. I was contemplating going to verizon but Sprint is rolling out lte and i figure if spring does do away with unlimited data them i may be able to get grandfathered in to unlimited when that happens.
I got grandfathered in on unlimited tether when they switched to 5gb cap, I seem to be one of the few on sprint getting true 3g speeds but I live in a sparsely populated area with uncongested towers
Recently Today my EVO 3D flashed to Metro will no longer Roam. Its either in service or No service. Usually it will roam on near by Verizon Tower and im able to still send texts just not make calls, which im fine with that.
Any Idea what is causing that.
And exactly what does enabling or disabling Domestic Voice/Data do on metros service.
WTF, as soon as i hit enter the phone goes right into roaming Analog B/A So now its working. Once i enabled the Domestic voice and data it started to roam. Hmm. Still need info if you can help
snakekeeper said:
Recently Today my EVO 3D flashed to Metro will no longer Roam. Its either in service or No service. Usually it will roam on near by Verizon Tower and im able to still send texts just not make calls, which im fine with that.
Any Idea what is causing that.
And exactly what does enabling or disabling Domestic Voice/Data do on metros service.
WTF, as soon as i hit enter the phone goes right into roaming Analog B/A So now its working. Once i enabled the Domestic voice and data it started to roam. Hmm. Still need info if you can help
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I see this is pretty old, but a prl update usually helps this issue.