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Hi,
Microsoft released a beta from a programm, to watch informations about your vista computer.
is there more software like this, for example, to see the temps from your cpu, or is is possible to use your pocket pc as an second display? like for icq?
THX!
Yes: http://blogs.msdn.com/sideshow/arch...n-windows-mobile-released-techready-2008.aspx
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Now any Windows Mobile 5 or 6 phone can work as a Bluetooth Windows SideShow device! We've got some favorite uses of it already, including using it to control PowerPoint presentations while viewing the speaker notes, using it as a remote control to Windows Media Player, and viewing RSS feeds on the road.
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I've been doing this for a bit now with Ikanos Consulting's Go Gadgets!
How is this new news?
Probably because it is microsoft releasing it's sideshow like enhancements. If that is old news for developers, it is probably new news for users. Marketing i guess
I really don't understand how this is any different than downloading a few feeds from the web?
What would be useful would be to treat your phone as an external display (monitor) for extending your desktop.
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You want a secondary display right ?
your desktop pc on your ppc ?
try this one then below its innobec.com
Innobec.Side.Window.for.Pocket.PC.v1.02 google it maybe a torrent somewhere
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that's what i'm looking about!
but it tells me: "You must have Windows 2000 or later to install side window"
but i have vista ultimate x64
rickos said:
You want a secondary display right ?
your desktop pc on your ppc ?
try this one then below its innobec.com
Innobec.Side.Window.for.Pocket.PC.v1.02 google it maybe a torrent somewhere
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Bumping this one. Innobec looked great. Except I'm running Win7 and it won't support even Windows Vista. As a matter of fact, the latest release is dated on 2005!
Do anybody knows any software similar to this one?
Me too i'm searching for a software to use the screen of my Touch HD (800x480) under XP (office computer) and Vista or Seven at home.
Any recent tool that is able to do this?
Zonescreen
Zonescreen can add virtual monitors to Windows. Any VNC viewer program can act as the display for those monitors. There are some limitations for Vista/Windows 7, and I have not tried it there yet.
http://www.zoneos.com/zonescreen.htm
http://dotnetvnc.sourceforge.net/
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en
Zusukar said:
Zonescreen can add virtual monitors to Windows. Any VNC viewer program can act as the display for those monitors. There are some limitations for Vista/Windows 7, and I have not tried it there yet.
http://www.zoneos.com/zonescreen.htm
http://dotnetvnc.sourceforge.net/
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Thanks Zusukar. I will give it a look!
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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...84-f862-4e02-a2b0-0003b4565f34&displaylang=en
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Thanks, d-signet for the updated link.
But I found that Windows Sideshow is, today, the worst implementation of a very good idea. It's limited, slow, tedious to set-up, I will only work through Bluetooth... A shame.
That's the reason because I'm looking for something else.
Does anyone have an update to this?
Sideshow only works with bluetooth and nobody has bluetooth on a normal desktop computer.
sidewindow doesnt work with vista/win7.
the VNC thing doesnt really work.
I would really love to use my pocket pc to show cpu load, temps, FPS etc
If you have Win 7 Pro or something above that you can use Win XP as a virtual machine. It has worked amazingly with other hardware/software that didn't work in 7.
good luck.
anybody found any good solution for this? i really want to use my pda as an extra monitor.
I also searchin' for such app. Nobody knows a solution? Any news of develepment?
Finally found iDisplay. Otra will allow you to use HD2 as another display... but only for Android. Guess WinMo OS dying.
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hey i found this video and it looks like fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8G82A7KKtY&feature=related
but i have windows 7 and i couldnt get it to work does anyone know how? and does it work for XP users?
worked here on XP
I have contacted and it seems to be impossible to make it work on Vista nor 7.
Still, it looks more like a proof of concept than a really useful app
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It is a video playing inside the Windows media player.
And it's even poorly synchronized with the monitor next to it...
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???
It is a video playing inside the Windows media player.
And it's even poorly synchronized with the monitor next to it...
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I don't think so. It looks legit to me. Have you ever used dual monitors before?
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???
It is a video playing inside the Windows media player.
And it's even poorly synchronized with the monitor next to it...
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It's not mate - it works a treat.
it works. it just takes a copy of your screen from the server (your pc) to the client (your phone), over TCP.
Worked quite slowly for me though.
It also adds your phone as a monitor, so you can extend your desktop onto it like a second monitor. It's a shame it's purely a visual thing, as it would be perfect if you could perform mouse clicks with it. Imagine having a media player on there, as in the video, but being able to control it from your screen!
If it was slow, I'd recommend chaning the frame rate. I had it on 20fps and it worked really smoothly.
I personally see a more relevant use by switching to the phone as server, and then having your phone screen open as a window on your desktop...
ghsdgsdgsdfg said:
I personally see a more relevant use by switching to the phone as server, and then having your phone screen open as a window on your desktop...
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MyMobiler can do that already
johncmolyneux said:
It also adds your phone as a monitor, so you can extend your desktop onto it like a second monitor. It's a shame it's purely a visual thing, as it would be perfect if you could perform mouse clicks with it. Imagine having a media player on there, as in the video, but being able to control it from your screen!
If it was slow, I'd recommend chaning the frame rate. I had it on 20fps and it worked really smoothly.
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I've got this installed on my Win XP notebook and my HD2 and I'm trying to get this setup. Can you provide a walk through? I've tried the steps listed in the video, but the trouble I'm having with is when I have to select "Display 2". I only have the option to select "Display 1". I've tried to enable my secondary display, but because there's no monitor connected to my VGA connector, The second monitor setting won't stick.
Can you post up the conditions/settings that got it working for you?
this video wasnt made with my mobiler....
this video was made with this:
http://www.zoneos.com/zonescreen.htm
works pretty good.... hf....
I guess this is ¨just for kicks¨kind of app
So I barely use my A7 other than the occasional web browsing and movie watching. Anyone know of other uses from the device? Such as using it over the network to display info from a computer. Like an extended LCD monitor...
There is a program called idisplay on the market that allows you to extend your desktop screen over to the a7. haven't used it so not sure how well it would scale. or you can use a remote desktop program if you wanted to use your desktop while not sitting at it.
PocketCloud.... control remote desktop
I checked out idisplay...pretty much what I am looking for.
I have used pocketcloud, but i am not looking to use the tablet to control something, I want to push things from my desktop to the tablet display, not remote control my PC/Mac
I use RemoteDroid on mine to use it as a wireless keyboard/mouse for my HTPC. Works pretty decent, but the RemoteDroid server application that has to run on the PC is written in java and has a memory leak like you read about, eventually locks up the computer... Good as proof of concept though.
I am a paperless person
I use my tablet for almost everything. My books are there now. My documents and I take notes as well as use diagrams (mindmapper) to record meetings and give talks. It is pretty cool for the video and pictures slideshow too. I use wifi to read news and browse the net. I have also perl,python and ruby and use it to test scripts I move then to my Linux server.
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
i think such idea of app market on the W8 is for the tablet, that is ok though, as long as they figure out away to port win32 software to run on apps, i would be the first one to get in line to get the tablet, other than that, i am good with my asus transformer
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Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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For tablets, maybe netbooks with a little screen, its a good OS. But... on a 24 inch Monitor? Serious, I tested the preview and in Metro the handling with mouse and keyboards sucks! It even interrups the productivity flow in the "desktop app". If I am on the classic desktop and want to open a programm from the start menu: Why do I have to go back to the start screen and type.
This is so unintuitive and doesn't suit to the desktop design at all...
the thing is, Microsoft has focus more on the Tablet than our - PC user.
You can see almost everything on the Keynote of Steve on CES 2012 (which has just ended ) is focus on the mobility of the technology nowday.
Tablet with ARM/ x64 / x86 , nVIDIA Tegra are all cool. But hand down, they didn't notice anything about the original idea of PC , yes, when i mean the mouse and the keyboard.
The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
Don't get me wrong , i am a Microsoft fan and i own a Windows Phone.
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The idea behind Marketplace for Windows 8 PC is something still new. And i hope, the marketplace is like a place where we can search all kind of applications for PC around the web without having google/bing it around.
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Thats the point! The marketplace is just for Metro apps and I don't understand why I should use an app if I have a internetbrowser (ebay, etc). The apps are optimized for small screens so it's just annoying to swipe with your mouse or use some strange shortcuts to show up the menu bar if you have enough space to display everything you need.
The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon. I mean, if you have a touch screen, you would love to do that because i know that typing on the touch screen is such pain in the ass.
But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen. We have been using our browser to do most stuffs, we don't need an app to do that. For example, i can have IE9 , and i can do most stuffs from betting on Ebay to buying stuffs on Amazon without having anything extra installed except for some flash plug-ins. So why choosing install many different apps and make your PC slower while you can get everything just by a click of a mouse on the icon of the browser?
Many people would say to me that if i don't like it then don't use it, but that isn't a point. It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us, i hear nothing about the original PC in the keynote except some new Laptops and Intel's new path for the future. That's why i am little bit disappointed.
CES is all about what is cool and hip today. Right now that is mobile devices so MS's CES pitch focuses on Windows 8. MS is leaving CES after this year so they can focus on getting the message they want out without having to follow the hot theme and control better the presentation of their message. You can expect that message to be heavily based around HTML 5 and web based apps to the detriment of those that develop windows apps.
I'm new to Windows 8 in general so be gentle...
(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.)
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The link for whoever missed the keynote:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/ces/liveevent.aspx
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Thanks for that, watching now!
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Yes. The thing is, there is no point from moving to use an app to control the web-based service like Ebay or Amazon.
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Agree completely here. I don't even use those types of apps on my Xoom, if its a browser based service or app, I just use the Xooms browser. It's a real browser, no need for an app.
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But with PC is different, a mouse and keyboard are far more advanced than a touch screen.
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I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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It is fine that Microsoft try to make a buck over tablets , but they seem to be forgetting about PC user like us <snip>.
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I see this as much more than MS looking to make a buck on tablets. As power of mobile devices increases, as "cloud" (I hate that term) storage becomes more prevalent, its going to be very important to have a seamless experience across devices. For example, I use Google Music and Chrome. No matter what device I'm on, Xoom, desktop, laptop, all of my playlists and bookmarks are the same. This is where I think MS is going with Windows 8, they're looking to have their OS be everywhere and work the same (or similar) no matter what device you're on. Or at least be flexible enough to do that.
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I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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lol no.
With multitouch you can zoom, rotate, roll and that's it, with a precision that is useless for most task but browser internet and catalog some photos.
For example, let's say that we have a picture of 2000x1500 and we want to select a square of 256x256... with multitouch you can't do that.
In fact, clicking a single link can become a tedious work of zoom then click.
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(These are meant as general comments, not picking on you Strike_Eagle, you were just the last post I read.).
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Oh, don't need to worry about it, it is cool. Forum is a place for discussion, right?
FuturePrimitive said:
I disagree a bit here, the way a touch screen is used is different than that of a mouse, it shouldn't be seen as a replacement for a mouse. Multi touch functions and gestures are what touch screen input excels at. However, emulating simple mouse input, navigating the screen or cursor, etc.. eh, not so much. I added a BT mouse to my Xoom and many things are MUCH faster using it rather than touching the screen, but some things are easier and faster using the touch screen.
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Yea, i got your point man. Everything has its own advantage. Something which is so great to use the multi-touch. I never say that the multitouch would be a replacement for the mouse anytime soon. But my point, was like, Something which is designed for Multi-Touch might not be a great deal for mouse and keyboard.
the word "advanced" here , i mean , you can do more stuffs with a keyboard than a touch-screen, or the keyboard and mouse give you more advantages than the touch-screen give you. Don't get me wrong man, if you do photoshop , you would know that you can do stuffs with the picture by mouse and press the short cut on the keyboard for special effect at the sametime, which is can't be done by multi-touch, Because Multi-Touch is like a combination of mouse and keyboard , for the benifit of portable device.
But with Multi-Touch , you can also do stuffs that you would not ever archieve with a mouse. Well, you know what i mean, like drawing. But the limitation of technology nowday can't take that advantage *yet*. the screen is not that sensitive enough to make a perfect drawing like with Pencil and paper.
This agrument seem to be valid, keep it up man. , i don't hate multi-touch device, because i have myself a HTC Titan and probably a Windows 8 Tablet soon.
ok, you are a hardcore user, then just keep using the desktop. why are you mad that other people will get to use metro.
Tablets and apps are popular nowadays,so you cant ignore it. That is why windows 8 integrated metro. If you dont like it,you dont have to use it. Windows 8 desktop is bringing a bunch of new features as well. The OS is leaner and faster,and more secure.
Now i realized that we forgot about Kinect for PC... Are they trying to have us buy the kinect to use it for the metro UI on PC?
Strike_Eagle said:
Anyone here is watching CES 2012 on facebook?
Right now that lady is demo-ing the Windows 8 Tablet, i like the original idea about Windows 8 is bringing Metro UI to Desktop, but i think the marketplace / apps for Desktop is something stupid to me.
I think Microsoft has gone too far and almost completely forgotten about PC hardcore User. Ebay apps when we have IE/Firefox/Chrome for Ebay.com?
Maybe i am wrong over here, because until now i have no clue about the idea behind Marketplace for PC.
What do you guys think?
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I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU!
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Isn't the idea of Marketplace that it will have all types of Apps and full applications like Photoshop, office etc? Similar to the Mac App Store?
Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
There will probably be plenty of crossovers from other touch platforms (iOS, Android), but it shouldn't affect the *real* games.
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Hopefully this doesn't have much effect on the gaming industry, mainly shooters. First, they were dumb'd down for consoles, now they could be severely dumb'd down for Tablets. I shudder at the thought.
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Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
Strike_Eagle said:
Microsoft has something called " Windows PC Game Marketplace" *if i am not wrong* already.
I have heard about it, i have seen it (Operation Flashpoint : Red River) but i never used it. Valve's Steam is the solution most people looking for. Even Origin can't compare to Steam.
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"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
x ZackehSoul x said:
"Games for Windows Live" I think is what you're referring to.
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out.
I wonder if XNA games will play a large role in the Windows App store?
Hi guys, I was thinking as to how to exploit Windows Metro decently: I really like the concept, but I find myself never using it. If I want to use a multiaccount chat program, I need to use something like Digsby on Desktop. I think it's a suboptimal use of Windows 8. I'd like to use a multiplatform chat program, like those found on our smartphones (Imo, eBuddy, and such) from the Metro and, for once, forget about Desktop: is it possible? Can I sideload Windows Phone 7.5 and Windows Phone 8 apps into Windows 8 metro?
I think it's really bad to not be able to use stuff like Whatsapp, given I have a tablet interface around which Windows 8 has been used.
Same thing, regarding Xbox Live Arcade games: why cannot I play them in Windows 8 yet? Why can't I play something like Fez, or Sine Mora, inside Windows 8 Metro? Shouldn't it be one of the main selling point of Metro interface?
At the moment, I see really great potential for a new, different and more relaxed approach to computer use, but it's very limited by implementation and app choice...
you cant side load yet, the split screen would be handy forchat programs