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4g in DC/Fairfax?

I was wondering if anyone was in the DC (specifically Fairfax, VA) area, and had 4g. I've seen a few posts with people claiming they're getting good coverage, but I wanted to make sure. I'm going to college there in the Fall, and it woulld sweet if they had it.
Thanks!

Depending on the specific area, 'tis true. They turned it on in the DC area last week.

I see you're in NOVA. Is there any 4G reaching out into Courthouse in Arlington at all?
Hopefully I'll be getting my EVO soon (shipping said 1-2 weeks to ship and then 2 day delivery) and then I can actually write my own experiences.

ViViDboarder said:
I see you're in NOVA. Is there any 4G reaching out into Courthouse in Arlington at all?
Hopefully I'll be getting my EVO soon (shipping said 1-2 weeks to ship and then 2 day delivery) and then I can actually write my own experiences.
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My boy just got his and works near Ballston mall which is not far off from Arlington Courthouse and he's got 4G there.

Samsung Epic demo model

I talked to my local sprint store representative about when they are going to have a Samsung Epic demonstration model available. After some digging he found that they are having a pair of Epics shipped to them by the 26th and will have them up for demonstration by the 27th of August.
I just thought I would share this with anyone who is interested in the phone, but wants a hands on with it. I am not sure if other areas will be putting up the phone for demo the same day, but this is what i was told in the sacramento area.

If your in NYC, go to the AOL Time Warner center on the 3rd floor. They have the Samsung Experience exhibition where all the latest Samsung products are demonstrated. You can have full access to everything in the "store". There are no sales representatives and thus absolutely no sales pressure. Its like going to a convention center, except its right in the city. There are people who can answer questions about the devices.
I'm sure the Epic 4G as well as the other Galaxy S devices will be demonstrated/featured in that place. Its a really nice place to go to just hang out as they have fun contests and giveaways from time to time. Sometimes even live bands go their and perform. Really cool.

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If your in NYC, go to the AOL Time Warner center on the 3rd floor. They have the Samsung Experience exhibition where all the latest Samsung products are demonstrated. You can have full access to everything in the "store". There are no sales representatives and thus absolutely no sales pressure. Its like going to a convention center, except its right in the city. There are people who can answer questions about the devices.
I'm sure the Epic 4G as well as the other Galaxy S devices will be demonstrated/featured in that place. Its a really nice place to go to just hang out as they have fun contests and giveaways from time to time. Sometimes even live bands go their and perform. Really cool.
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Thanks for this info, I'm right up the block from them. I checked there site online and they have the Captivate and the Vibrant, but no Epic yet. The only sprint phone they have is the Moment, lol. Hopefully they'll have it early next week so I can stop by and play with it.

cool, im in sac too, i guess ill be hitting up the sprint store and checking out the epic. Only thing that sucks is i dont get my upgrade til oct 1st, ima try and ask the employees if i can upgrade early not sure if it will work though.

Very cool. I'm definitely interested but would like to see it first before I shell out the money. I'll have to call my local store

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If your in NYC, go to the AOL Time Warner center on the 3rd floor. They have the Samsung Experience exhibition where all the latest Samsung products are demonstrated. You can have full access to everything in the "store". There are no sales representatives and thus absolutely no sales pressure. Its like going to a convention center, except its right in the city. There are people who can answer questions about the devices.
I'm sure the Epic 4G as well as the other Galaxy S devices will be demonstrated/featured in that place. Its a really nice place to go to just hang out as they have fun contests and giveaways from time to time. Sometimes even live bands go their and perform. Really cool.
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Is this the CNN/Time Warner place at Columbus Circle, Broadway @ 59th? If so, i'm so there...

Ugh. My local Sprint store had NO CLUE when they would get a demo phone in. Jesus. You'd think these stores would all be given the same info.

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Is this the CNN/Time Warner place at Columbus Circle, Broadway @ 59th? If so, i'm so there...
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Yes it is.

Went to sprint corporate store in sacramento and they said no model on display til launch day.
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Hey I'm in sacramento area too!
Which sprint store had a display model to play with?
I don't think I honestly care enough to drive to a Sprint store just to play with it for a minute. Its less than 3 days away now.

I am a sprint store rep and the advocate for my stores epic and I can confirm no display models till close of biz on the 30th available to the public on the 31st
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I was passing by the natomas store yesterday and no luck, ill probably go next week and check it out, I can't upgrade til sept 15 so I wanna play with it and see if I want it or the evo
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hydralisk said:
Ugh. My local Sprint store had NO CLUE when they would get a demo phone in. Jesus. You'd think these stores would all be given the same info.
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They are, they're just not allowed to say. Cognitive is right though, we're putting out the demo models Monday night, after hours.

I apologize everyone, i realize that the demo models were not put out on the 27th, the sprint rep i spoke was misinformed and once he found out that they were going to get the Epic on the 26th he assumed they would set it up on the 27th. This was not the case, as i found out yesterday when i went to the store. Luckily, when i went in the sprint store manager was playing with one and said he wasn't supposed to show me the phone, but since i seemed enthusiastic he would anyway. I only toyed with it for about 5 minutes, but a few things i noticed were...
1) the keyboard is very comfortable and easy to type on, and in my opinion is about as good as the touch pro 2 in usability
2)the screen dwarfs in comparison to the evos
3)touchwiz is very smooth and had no lag in my use
4)the still pictures look fantastic as does the video recording
5)build quality and sturdiness seemed inferior to the evo, but then again the evo has no moving parts like the keyboard and we all know about the supposed glass separation, so idk
Anyway i know a lot of this has been covered, but these were just major things that i noticed.
On a final note, as much as i told the sprint manager i was interested in buying the Epic, he was very keen on trying to sell me the Evo right then and there. I wonder why?

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On a final note, as much as i told the sprint manager i was interested in buying the Epic, he was very keen on trying to sell me the Evo right then and there. I wonder why?
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Because a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Between the two, which one felt ergonomically better in your hand?

Epic is on limited release. Demos will be few and far in between. However, my Radioshack has had an Epic in stock since mid August hahaha

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On a final note, as much as i told the sprint manager i was interested in buying the Epic, he was very keen on trying to sell me the Evo right then and there. I wonder why?
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the could careless which phone you buy, as long as you get a new line/upgrade. They want the sale right then and there, so you just teased em..

pcmp said:
.Between the two, which one felt ergonomically better in your hand?
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I found the epic to be more comfortable in my hand, however this is not to say the evo was uncomfortable, just that i prefer the epic.

My only problem with the Epic's keyboard is muscle memory. Coming from a TP2, the shift button is above the FN button. On the Epic the FN button is above the shift button.
Over the course of a few days, it's resulted in more than a few odd typos.
Given time I'll get used to it. Otherwise initial impressions of the keyboard are good.

sprint and coverage?

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So I looked at sprints coverage map again, and noticed that same as before for me, they show I should have full bar 4G coverage on my 1 acre property. I don't get any 4G at all until I go down the street a couple hundred feet.
I called them tonight, finally pissed off about it, and the first guy told me tough sh!t, that coverage maps were a total guestimate and didn't matter. Finally ending up talking to this girl who actually helped me out. She told me I would need to go by a sprint repair shop, thankfully one is 2 mins down the road from where I work, and have them check it out, and if they say it is fine, or replace my phone, and I still cannot connect, they will see what can be done next.
Background.
At first they went to tell me about the 30 days and so forth. I pointed out how I broke a $300 ETF to move to sprint, and then paid another 200 for my phone, and another 120 for my bill, all within the first 30 days of start of service with sprint. I also pointed out that the moment I did that, I lost my unlimited data plan with AT&T.
So I have unrooted my phone, and I am sad cause my phone feels so lame running stock sense 2.2 when I had a awesome 2.3.2 CM7 and will be like that until I go by the sprint store tomorrow evening. So I am hoping they somehow make good on their end when I get back home, and still get no 4G coverage, just like the other 4 evos that have been at my house my friends have get no coverage.
anyone else have issues like this? I was really just ranting cause I want to either have 4G or a carrier that I actually get 4G with at my house, when they say I will.
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You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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david279 said:
You ever look at clears maps? They're a lot more detailed.
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they were different about a month ago, checked last night and they match to a T for where I live.

you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.

aweskelo said:
you're not going to get sympathy...err...just leave sprint and get a thunderbolt. 4G with sprint sucks anyways. I get faster 3G most of the time.
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i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.

nosympathy said:
i am on the phone with sprint right now trying to terminate my contract without an ETF since I was lied to about coverage. They are sending me to "account services" right now to talk about it. I have been lied to and run in circles so many times trying to fix this issue. It is making me so mad.
doesn't help I haven't slept in like 30 hours lol.
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Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers

mylasthope said:
Good luck. Let me know how it goes. I'm trying to figure out why coverage sucks so much at my house, despite both Clear and Sprint's 4g coverage maps claiming I should have good coverage.
Cheers
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well I ended up going way up sprint somehow. And eventually I talked to some manager who started cursing me out and calling me names and lying to my face. He said the only reason I have connection problems at my house was because I don't turn my phone off for extended periods of time during the day. lol... Needless to say I had his manager listen to that call and next thing I know I have no ETF, a sprint EVO 4G to sell, and an HTC thunderbolt that is so fast it isn't funny.

Congrats-what's the speed tests showing so far on average?
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Sprint signs new 4 year deal with Clearwire

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072123907320862.html
Wimax not completely dead? I wonder if they will expand Wimax coverage at all or dedicate all this money to LTE?
Either way this is good for Shift users.

Hopefully it is good for sprint in general. Now maybe the wimax coverage will spread like wildfire.
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don't hold your breath. Coverage is so crappy.

danibri82 said:
don't hold your breath. Coverage is so crappy.
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Not where I am, but I agree.

We can hope and dream right I do enjoy 4G if I travel to areas with it. Does anyone know where I can find any info on future tower sites? I know someone that had a 12M connection and a 4G IP where there is "no" such service so I am curious.
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Not where I am, but I agree.
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not where I am either, but I'm sayin' for the rest of the folks that aren't so lucky.

Clearwire is in trouble. They were considering skipping their debt payment this month, which can't mean anything good. They had a $237M debt (actually just an interest) payment due, and sprint gave them $1.6B. That's less than 7 months of interest payments, assuming the payment is a constant $237M each month, and not counting costs of running the company day to day. I have a feeling Sprint just set fire to $1.6B. I guess it's better than having the 4G service just shut off, before Sprint has a chance to get off the ground with their LTE network.
Sprint should have just built their own network, instead of partnering with companies that are damaged goods.
Edit: Most of the first paragraph was originally based on the payment being for both principal and interest. Since it's only for interest....clearwire is screwed. Say goodbye to wimax in a few months. I give it until April, and then clear files for bankruptcy, and their assets are sold off shortly thereafter.

VICODAN said:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577072123907320862.html
Wimax not completely dead? I wonder if they will expand Wimax coverage at all or dedicate all this money to LTE?
Either way this is good for Shift users.
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Yaawn!
Without them(developers) this place would not be called *Insert You Device Forum Name Here* but something else, e.g Mobile Phone & Tablet User Support Services For Ungrateful Nerds.
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FdxRider said:
Yaawn!
Without them(developers) this place would not be called *Insert You Device Forum Name Here* but something else, e.g Mobile Phone & Tablet User Support Services For Ungrateful Nerds.
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Get over yourself.

I talked to sprint about it and they said it's probably years off still. So I don't think we'll even have to worry about it for even 2012. They said it was going to take a long time to implement it.
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Here's a little something:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...as-plans-for-voice-over-lte-says-iyad-tarazi/
EDIT: For whatever reason I have 4G. But the funny thing is the coverage map says I don't. It's all good with me.

prboy1969 said:
Here's a little something:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...as-plans-for-voice-over-lte-says-iyad-tarazi/
EDIT: For whatever reason I have 4G. But the funny thing is the coverage map says I don't. It's all good with me.
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I will be interested to see what pans out before March 31st. Don't they have some announcement coming in January?
Edit: Sprint does have an announcement with Samsung and Intel, during CES, Jan 10-13.

tokuzumi said:
I will be interested to see what pans out before March 31st. Don't they have some announcement coming in January?
Edit: Sprint does have an announcement with Samsung and Intel, during CES, Jan 10-13.
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Samsung and Intel, meh.
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wow! one year with sprint! :)

so I log in to check my bill at sprint.com, wanted to browse as i am looking for another phone to play with.. LOl
it's been a year, got my deposit back! wahoot!
seeing a little credit in there is nice, I have to say form all the stories i have heard about sprint being on these boards for almost a year, I have had a pleasurable experience with them, the financing department is first class, had some billing issues with them and they were as pleasant as can be. I do feel their service can be better in their stores, as My trusty evo's charging port let go back in november, and i had some rough spots tryin to get sprint to help me, so i went to htc and they resolved my issue no problems, so in a nutshell i am a happy customer!
now, do i want a design4g, epic4g touch, or photon4g? LOL

Totally agree with you. I have had a very pleasant experience with Sprint as well. Had a couple small billing issues that were fixed very quickly and drop less calls now than with Verizon. I used Verizon for 9 years but the cost was getting out of control. So far over the last 20 months, I have saved $2256 by switching. Total win

Sprint is great for the price. Just wait til network vision rolls out and coverage increases.
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hah +1 for sprint gotta admit cept i just moved and i have ZERO coverage
note its northern wisconsin so i shouldnt expect to much i wish my evo had a unlocked sim slot i'd just grab a voice plan from att (closest tower is across the bay and its att of course)

brad560 said:
now, do i want a design4g, epic4g touch, or photon4g? LOL
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I have been itching for the epic touch 4g....

Grats! I remember when I got my deposit back...was stoked to have 2 free months of service basically. As far as upgrading your phone I would hold off on that. I just recently purchased the EVO 4G because I really wasn't too impressed with the newer phones. Granted they are better than the EVO but just slightly which to me isn't worth either the upgrade credit or the extra cash. Wait for some more ICS phones and then upgrade....i'm betting Samsung and HTC will come out with something great.

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hah +1 for sprint gotta admit cept i just moved and i have ZERO coverage
note its northern wisconsin so i shouldnt expect to much i wish my evo had a unlocked sim slot i'd just grab a voice plan from att (closest tower is across the bay and its att of course)
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Which part of northern Wisconsin? I use to live in a small town(Miladore) twenty minutes north of Stevens Point.
@brad check out the epic touch 4G thats what I'm looking at haha. My one year with Sprint is coming up April 15th. I know I'm not elgible for an upgrade but I figure ill treat myself anyway haha.
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right outside of bayfield wisconson hmmm hour east of superior beaaaautiful up here and no computer repair business so here i am

I agree, I have had a pleasurable experience with them, their service is excellent.

Brad, I would wait until MWC. I am having the same debate, I am going to wait for my 2 years to officially upgrade but if I get the chance to try a different handset I will. My wife needs a replacement EVO but I am kind of hoping they wont have one and we will have to get something else... we will see. But HTC is going to be launching something BIG this year!

I'm waiting it out too. Galaxy Nexus, sure it has LTE but it is last year's technology. I have very high hopes for MWC and shall be revealed there.
Out of Design, Photon, or Epic Touch?
Design has basically no development community. Smaller screen, and single core just doesn't cut it for me.
Photon has Motoblur and it is a worldphone, if you're into that kind of thing. It has a small but quality development community, jokersax has put out some good stuff for them. Unlocking the bootloader borks 4G. You can relock to fix 4G, and you can't relock with custom kernels.
Epic Touch used to have Loss of Signal, which was an absolute pain. It is pretty much gone now. Took a while to get AOSP on it, but they have accomplished. They have the strongest development community out of the three. I think it is BML but I'm not sure. If it is, hopefully they will be able to convert it to MTD sometime in the near future.
OR wait

i can never wait for my upgrade i have about 4 months til my contract is up ... sadly i maybe switching to the evil empire (at&t) :/

thanks guys! think im gonna wait, love my evo to death, and i just got a kindle fire so i got a new device to hold me over haha!
you guys are the best

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My wife needs a replacement EVO but I am kind of hoping they wont have one and we will have to get something else.
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Hahaha I know that feeling all too well. I dropped my LG Optimus S a few months back and the screen just stopped working and I remember hoping I wouldn't be able to fix it so that I would be forced to get a new phone

I was a year and 6 months with sprint when they cancel my contact, for data usage when I was on unlimited data plan. Don't be, glad be sad haa ha
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ben.nesheim said:
i can never wait for my upgrade i have about 4 months til my contract is up ... sadly i maybe switching to the evil empire (at&t) :/
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Have you considered calling them and letting them know that you have no service at your house. I was having the same problem as I live in a small town in southern california and they sent me a free airave. Granted its not the best solution in the world but it will provide you with coverage in your home as long as you have high speed internet.

I've had a few minor ups and down with Sprint as far as billing went, but next to nil issues with repairs or phone service. I wish it was my first year again. I've been with Sprint for close to a decade now.
As far as a new phone goes, I'm with one of the previous posters. There's yet to been a phone released that has made me want to make the switch. Especially due to many of the awesome ROMS that been developed for our phones in the past year or so. In some cases, it's literally like having a new phone every few months. lol

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In some cases, it's literally like having a new phone every few months. lol
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I've been preaching that for almost two years now!
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wc_outlaw said:
Have you considered calling them and letting them know that you have no service at your house. I was having the same problem as I live in a small town in southern california and they sent me a free airave. Granted its not the best solution in the world but it will provide you with coverage in your home as long as you have high speed internet.
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yes i have considered that but atm with google voice intergration i can still text fine over wifi so im content on waiting a little til i have more concrete plans and my internets its through phone company (it was through my cable in my previous town so i just hooked up a land line and/or use skype) thanks for the suggestion.
and my ex got the airave since it was tied to her plan damnit

I've been with Sprint since '99... And I've definitely had my ups and downs. Overall I'm very happy with my plan, unlimited, my Airave at no charge to boost signal at the house and my E4G that has a very mature development community... But I'm really hoping to see some quad core hotness released in the next few months...
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