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Sprint WiMax 4G Live in St. Louis 05/27/2010!!

Just for fun I thought I'd try out the 4G radio on the EVO while here in St. Louis.
Turns out, it's live!!
Here are some screen shots to prove it!
Had to resize images to fit upload requirements here.
Check out the originals at my Flickr page:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/colorado_al/4644983280/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/colorado_al/4644980236/in/photostream/
Also see my other post at:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/86027-sprint-wimax-4g-live-st-louis-05-27-2010-a.html#post814544

2.1 mbs down?
if so im not impressed... at all

I'm on the edge of the city, and inside, and they haven't announced the launch yet, so who knows how fast it will go. I'll take a drive this afternoon and see if I can get a better signal.

dmc971989 said:
2.1 mbs down?
if so im not impressed... at all
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Here's another test to another server in Chicago 3.3mbps

dont get me wrong... its not bad...
but i have been able to get up to 2.5 down on sprints 3g in some places

Wow, that's awesome news! I live in St. Louis (Southwest Garden area) and I'm getting the Evo next week, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait too long before getting 4G. I figured it'd probably be later summer before I'd have it, but if your phone is correct, sounds like they've already started installing it. Hopefully it's just the beginning and the signal will continue to get better.
My only concern, I've read somewhere that some Radio Shacks are setting up WiMax hotspots. Maybe there's a Radio Shack nearby that you're getting the signal from? Just a thought, could be wrong. It'll be interesting to see what happens when you venture out in the city to see if you continue to get the 4G signal and if it improves or gets worse.
Thanks for the update! Please keep us posted!

emac11 said:
Wow, that's awesome news! I live in St. Louis (Southwest Garden area) and I'm getting the Evo next week, but I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait too long before getting 4G. I figured it'd probably be later summer before I'd have it, but if your phone is correct, sounds like they've already started installing it. Hopefully it's just the beginning and the signal will continue to get better.
My only concern, I've read somewhere that some Radio Shacks are setting up WiMax hotspots. Maybe there's a Radio Shack nearby that you're getting the signal from? Just a thought, could be wrong. It'll be interesting to see what happens when you venture out in the city to see if you continue to get the 4G signal and if it improves or gets worse.
Thanks for the update! Please keep us posted!
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There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.

colorado_al said:
There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.
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nice now they need to head south to springfield and i will be much happier

Wow, I wasn't expecting STL to get 4G any time soon. I am so excited that you found this out. I am getting my phone on the 4th, and can't wait to test the speeds. I am in the southwest part of STL, in the boones. So I don't know how well it will work for me.

dmc971989 said:
dont get me wrong... its not bad...
but i have been able to get up to 2.5 down on sprints 3g in some places
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For some reason I'm getting better speeds on 4G via WiFi hotspot on my Win7 PC. Could be an issue with the speedtest.net app for android or a hardware issue or something.
Anyhow, this has been typical of tests from my PC via 4G hotspot.
4.5mbps

Why oh why must they wait til the 4th to release this phone. All along though, I had a feeling that 4g would be going by yht time the phone was released.

I bet Sprint just started working on it, so it might not be for a while until it's fully live, but it's still exciting that it sounds like it works to an extent. Does the 4G seem much faster than the 3G? Have you by chance tried it near South Kingshighway/Vandeventer/Southwest? or near the Botanical Gardens?

Has anyone tested the Metro East area? Fairview Heights/O'Fallon Area?

hmmmm interesting... I am in STL close downtown and the last couple of days my Hero have seemed much quicker with data transfers. I have no idea if this has anything to do with it but WOW, cool, thanks for the news. I did not expect to hear this at all. I figured it would be some lame excuse why it wasnt hear at the end of June.

colorado_al said:
There is a radio shack about 1.5 miles away. No idea where the signal is coming from. I will take a drive and test later today.
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From what I have been told, radioshacks just have repeaters in them. They basically just take a weak signal and boost it so it reaches more of the city.
So, WE DO HAVE 4G!!!
God, I can't wait till the 4th, and with the ability to use the sprint hot spot feature for free for a bit, ill be pushing large amounts of data through their network.

tivotyro said:
Has anyone tested the Metro East area? Fairview Heights/O'Fallon Area?
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I'm interested in that, too, and how 4G will reach a bit farther south, like Belleville.
I'm guessing 4G will blanket the area just fine, but it would be nice to have some actual tests!

4G FULL service near the new River City Casino. Clocked about 3.3Mbps

Detected 4G (low signal) on I-64E at about Hwy 157 in Illinois, but then it dropped and cannot get a signal any further east.

I'm getting 4g signal in my home in Dogtown. That said, speeds aren't much better than the current 3g which is lightning fast on the Evo. I'm getting > 2mbps on it.

Fenton/Gravois Bluffs area is live

T-mobile HSDPA in NWI/Chicagoland area FINALLY -*EDIT*

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Sorry for misspeaking for the masses when saying chicagoland area, although my observations for SOME of the area seems to be right, according to this thread it may not be entirely accurate for the entire area. However NWI - Portage and surround areas to the west seem to get this good signal. Sorry guys =(
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Hey guys! I can hardly contain myself. Since launch day I was plagued with HORRIBLE cell reception and had the 3g/edge switching issue. New radios always seemed to help little by little as they were rolled out, and eventually I just gave up and went to WiFi at home all the time. Dropped calls and such happened frequently.
The cell signal for the past 3 weeks-ish has been weird and flaky. I've never since January have been able to get more than 800kbs and that was full bars. More times than not it was 300-400kbs.
As of this week.... 1700kbs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ this thing flies now. I've been missing out on a lot. THANK YOU TMOBILE!
If anyone else has some awesome success stories with the N1, post in this thread =)

congrats, hope they upgrade the Las Vegas area soon.

do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?

twflys said:
do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?
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no you will not get a new icon unless you are using a modded rom.

twflys said:
do you get a different icon on the home screen when on HSDPA? Like instead of 3G?
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I'm currently using the stock Froyo test build so no icon. I love moving about the town and have steady 5 bars though. =)

Hitorii said:
I'm currently using the stock Froyo test build so no icon. I love moving about the town and have steady 5 bars though. =)
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What part of town are you in? I never had any problems with reception in Lincoln Park, through max download speed was around 800 kilobits.
Edit: Just saw that you said Chicagoland..never mind.

im in the chicagoland area. I just got 450kpbs down on my speedtest.

Talcott and Harlem pushing 1300kb myself

I wonder how long it will be before it hits down here in Bloomington/Normal
Although were not that big, we have a lot down here. Illinois State University, Illinois Wesleyan University, State Farm Headquarters, Country Companies, Nestle, Mitsubishi Motors

Hitorii said:
Hey guys! I can hardly contain myself. Since launch day I was plagued with HORRIBLE cell reception and had the 3g/edge switching issue. New radios always seemed to help little by little as they were rolled out, and eventually I just gave up and went to WiFi at home all the time. Dropped calls and such happened frequently.
The cell signal for the past 3 weeks-ish has been weird and flaky. I've never since January have been able to get more than 800kbs and that was full bars. More times than not it was 300-400kbs.
As of this week.... 1700kbs!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus Christ this thing flies now. I've been missing out on a lot. THANK YOU TMOBILE!
If anyone else has some awesome success stories with the N1, post in this thread =)
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so now that you have solid service, do you look back and maybe were you one of the people who complained about the nexus one poor reception and all this, and now you got solid coverage so you see how those of us with great sesrvice dont have those issues!

uansari1 said:
What part of town are you in? I never had any problems with reception in Lincoln Park, through max download speed was around 800 kilobits.
Edit: Just saw that you said Chicagoland..never mind.
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I was in Roger's Park and my downstream was 800kbps~. I recently moved to River West, (like Grand/Halstead), and my speed was around 2.7mbps. My upstream is the same as before 350kbps~.

In westside Los Angeles, getting around 2.8mbps down. It's damn nice that TMO is stepping it up.

Just checked, I'm getting ~50KB/s down up. Slower than before.
I'm in the western suburbs.

In the Oak Lawn/Alsip area and speeds are the same as always 800kbps is peak but usually slower.

Well I live in Portage area and took the SS in the other day and was fairly consistent on the way. Perhaps I should get this edited. Sorry guys, I could of sworn it was rolled out for the rest of ya.
As for the complaints and such about low speed/choppy speeds. Its night and day. I had it and now I don't, ever. So I can see how big of an ordeal it would have been to straighten out this signal issue from tmobile-google as its not consistent

Where are you in Chicagoland area? I don't notice a difference. I frequent Chicago/Buffalo Grove/Highland Park areas.

jlevy73 said:
In westside Los Angeles, getting around 2.8mbps down. It's damn nice that TMO is stepping it up.
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Sure you weren't on WiFi?
I haven't seen speeds like that anywhere in LA.

mortzz said:
Just checked, I'm getting ~50KB/s down up. Slower than before.
I'm in the western suburbs.
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Are you on the 2.2 test ROM by chance? The test rom was missing some info in its build.prop file which may leave your phone unoptimized for cellular data.

ATnTdude said:
Are you on the 2.2 test ROM by chance? The test rom was missing some info in its build.prop file which may leave your phone unoptimized for cellular data.
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im on froyo maybe thats why im not seeing hspa+ then

This is the best I've seen in Austin:
Connection Type: Cell
Download: 4921 kbps
Upload: 1500 kbps
Ping: 76 ms
I can consistently get over 3mbs down.

4G and the Laker Parade

So yesterday I went to the Laker parade. While I was there I was trying to use my 3G connection and it was horrible! It pretty much didn't work which doesn't surprise me because of how many people were there. Then I realized that I had read something about 4G being available in downtown LA. I turned on the 4G connection and BAM I got it! Then I tried doing some internet stuff to see how fast it was and it was very fast and smooth! I love how we have the only 4G phone so I had no problem doing online stuff while I'm sure that everyone else there that did not have our phone was screwed! Love this phone! I also did a speed test and got 3.6 down and 1.0 up. And that's the with the unofficial 4G there! Can't wait for official!

Sweeet!! Where were you?

I was about 15-20 ft away from the fence at the beginning of it.

I wasn't there... what streets were you on? Also how strong was the signal?

Actually I started a custom Google Maps to map out the 4G findings in LA...
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=110075631533771302927.0004894132c840860bb69
Feel free to add in your findings there!

GReddySetGO said:
I wasn't there... what streets were you on? Also how strong was the signal?
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I was right next to the Staples Center and honestly don't know what street I was on. The signal seemed to be 1 and sometimes 2 bars. But considering that it's not officially out yet I'm not complaining. I was getting 3.6/1.0 speeds.

Sweeeet, this is all good news

I was in LA last week for E3 (at the Convention Center/Staples Center), and 4G was humming away live and well! I live in Orange County though, so I hope it makes it's way further south sooner than later.

I was out on the 10 freeway today in Los Angeles, the best I was able to get was 3.3up
Hopefully be much faster after final release...

SteveDusa said:
Actually I started a custom Google Maps to map out the 4G findings in LA...
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=110075631533771302927.0004894132c840860bb69
Feel free to add in your findings there!
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I tried adding to the map, but I dunno how?

WTF!!! Calling anyone in CT that can connect to 4G

So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
Here are some pictures to show.

I live in stamford, no luck with 4g here.

Rene2.5RS said:
So today I was trying to kill my battery after wiping all data to rebuild the battery stats and randomly turned on 4G to help kill the battery, but found that it connected to Clearwire, rather than Sprint. Now I will have to drive around and try and locate the broadcast point.
I live in Wolcott, CT and small town in New Haven County that boarders Hartford County, next to Waterbury. This was a fluke that I turned on 4G but was surprised to see that it connected.
My speeds are crap but have gotten it up to 6mbps down, nothing better than 3G upload speeds though ~0.33mbps up.
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i see your 4g bars, dont seem to much!

Sprint and Clearwire
I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).

NotSkywalker said:
I thought Sprint used Clearwire's WiMax network. (i.e. Sprint 4G is really a rebranded Clearwire WiMax) Not to mention Sprint owns the majority interest in Clearwire.
In Orange County California I came across a small pocket of 4G coverage. The weak signal only allowed about 1.65 Mbs down and 0.48 up which is far below the 4G spec but better than the usual 3G (altho also below the 3G spec).
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Clearwire is Sprint's 4G provider. I have just never seen Clearwire listed as the ISP while in labeled 4G areas thats all...
What I find funny is Clearwire does not list any active broadcast location in CT, so I wonder why I am picking anything up...

A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.

last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up

That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

NotSkywalker said:
A quick google finds that Clearwire is hiring in the Hartford, CT area. Everyone from customer support to RF Engineers. Perhaps you were close to their Hartford location.
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Hartford is about 20-25 miles away from Wolcott, but I have noticed that they were hiring here.
Samzebian said:
last time I was in hartford (at the club lol) I got like 3-4 bars of 4G, it was AWESOME! That's the only place I've ever had 4g, since I live in the springfield area (I wouldn't give my city, that's just stupid. Even though I use my real name as my username and you could easily find me via google. lol)
anyways I was getting like 8mbps down and 2-3mbps up
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fachadick said:
That's pretty cool and all, but do you really want to post a map to your home on the internet?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
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I'm really not that worried, user name is my real name, and if you or anyone else really feels the need to come visit me have at it... Nothing a quick search on the internet wouldn't pull up anyways.

Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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daneurysm said:
Im in manchester, I tracked down the tower...right in back of the sprint store...got nearly 12mbit on mobile speed test...at my house 1.5 miles away I couldn't even get a signal. I think its in low-power test mode. The signal drops like a rock as you drive away...what's wimax range? I thought it was many many miles, 20 to 30 if you still had a good line of sight....?
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I will track down the broadcast point. There are a couple large cell towers in my area that I will start with.

I found the broadcast point, it was were I thought it would be, top of route 69. Was getting almost 11mbps down and around 1.5mbps up. Kind of weird that there is 4G in this area now.

I had 1 bar in new haven not to long ago and got a little over 4 mbps down and about 1 mbps up.

4G Waterbury CT
Hello everyone. Found this post searching around and figured I would join this great forum.
I found out earlier today that 4g service was started up in Waterbury. I saw that the OP is in wolcott. Flip on ur 4G and give it a minute to set up.
With speedtest.net Im getting an average of 9.25 down and 1.75 up.
The internet flies on this phone at those speeds. Web pages load in a second or so compared to 10 secs on 3g.
Finally we get our 10 bucks out of the deal, lol.

4g is all over newhaven and hartford
It's also available in stamford, ct - there is a tower on the TOP of the new Trump building.
Just google "4g stamford" or "4g your town here"
download the sensorly app on your phone and you can see real time reports of it down to road level.
You have to zoom in on this link before it gets accurate
http://www.sensorly.com/Map/4G/USA/Sprint/wimax-sp

nobody tried sensorly?

That sensorly map seems to be inaccurate for me at my current location, it says I should have 4g coverage but I do not. Back at home in seattle though I do have 4g almost everywhere so I am used to having it.
Edit: I stand corrected by the fact that if you download the app and zoom in really close (better then you can on the website) it shows I do not have coverage.
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I get 4G throughout E.Hartford and Manchester. None in Glastonbury though. I get 5-8 Down in E.Ha.

There are pockets of 4g in Rocky Hill & Newington. Conveniently, the Newington Sprint Store has 4g coverage ;-)

Reason for the San Francisco 4G Delays

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/4g_wireless_internet_access_he.php
Damn residents of Bernal Heights are complaining about the placement of Clearwire's 4G antennas.

BOOOOO
-m

I live in Berkeley, and I know for a fact that tower wouldn't serve me. I have yet to hear anything about service in the East Bay. Anyone have a clue?
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that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit! if they dont want it to be there, maybe clearwire should find another place to put their antennas on! i want my 4G here in sf...

Well I'm out in the flatlands of the East bay in Concord, and the closest 4G is the small downtown area of Nut Creek. Sprint, hook us up!!

This is frustrating as **** for those of us who have been waiting, and waiting for these assholes to get their **** together. Yeah, we know San Francisco has a crazy permit and building process - but this is ridiculous. What about San Mateo County? We're total 4G-less while Santa Clara County is almost all the way lit up.
Embarrassing.

clovis_ll said:
that sucks! people there complain about anything even if its for their benefit!
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Sound like South Florida.

Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's

zikronix said:
Same **** here in arizona....bunch of damn nimby's
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Pretty much. NIMBYs always ***** about things.

How do they separate the men from the boys in SF?
A firehose

I can confirm there is 4G in parts of Fremont. Been using it for a few weeks now.

I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
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Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
Screen shots taken...now, to get Dolphin to let me attach them...

Alright...screw dolphin. Screenshotsuploaded via Opera mobile.
Who needs a computer? (alright...i borrowed one to get root, but I'm without, and happy now...)
There is sprint 4g service in San Francisco NOW!

Kalash said:
I'm on 4g right now! Turk and Taylor.
I've left my radio on to search since I got the phone, and only one phantom hit until today.
It's dropped a couple times now, but it keeps coming back. Almost an hour of 4g at this location.
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Not that impressed with the speed tests so far, but the upload is crazy fast...for a cell phone.
.5 Mbps down, 1.1Mbps up.
Not much better than the 3g, really.
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Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.

Well...it seems to have gotten better. It's still access going about the same as the 3g... And tethering is SLOW. I'd say slower than with 3g, which is weird, but other people have reported the danger thing... I just looked.
So far, I'm not impressed. The icon looks cool, but I had better performance with 3g on average.
Maybe it's dialed down for testing before an official release?

My girlfriend said she got a 4G signal today in the FiDi, near 2nd and Mission. Think I might switch to a Sense ROM for a few days...

liquidkernel said:
Very interesting.
I get my fastest 3G access around Grant and O'farrell. A bit over 2Mbits down.
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I get 2.3Mbits down of 3G, here in balboa park when im outside my house but as soon as i go inside the house, its back to .7Mbits
i might turn my 4G on this time just to see.. i got a friend that works for clearwire and he says they're testing it here in SF..

I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
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I had 4g at divesidero and geary yesterday - 2.2 down, about one up.
Lost it when I drove a few blocks away...
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That's pretty good! I am going to be driving there in a bit, might try it out.

What part of Fremont have you been getting 4G? I've been getting a signal in Union City but only during the day strangely.