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[Q] 4g tethering

Ok so I have been searching the forums for a few days now and have yet to find the answer to my question. So please don't bash me for not using the search function cuz I did. There is a good chance that my question has already been answered and if it has please direct me to the proper thread. Otherwise my issue is that my epic is rooted as of a few days ago cuz I moved into an apartment and I don't have any Internet yet. Not for a few weeks, but I am using the android wifi tether app. That's working good for me except I am not getting any 4g speed through it. If I'm lucky i will get maybe 1 to 1.5 Mbps but most of the time less than 1 mbps. Does anyone know if the wifi App supports wimax speeds or not. Yes I have 4g coverage in my area. Where I am sitting right now on my phone speed test results are above 3.5 to 4 mbps. But while using my iPad (which I am using to write this) via wifi tether app speed tests are dreadfully low. Same with all other devices I have tried connecting like my xbox or laptop. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Is that the results withe 4g on? 3-4mbs? I get that with 3g untethered 4g untethered is around 8mbs. Have you tried testing it in another area? You might just be in a 4g deadspot. With wifi tether I get 3-4mbs on 4g. I can't really tell you where to go for info but those numbers sound more like 3g to me.
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Yes that is with 4g on. Where my phone is this very second. I have 2 bars of 4g signal. And it's working fine for me. Sitting side by side with 4g activated and wifi tethering on. My phone will get 4mbps and iPad will get 1.5mbps. From the same server on speediest.net. And I run the tests at separate times so they don't conflict for bandwidth.
Update: just ran test again.
iPad - 350ms ping 1.63mbps download .86mbps upload
Phone - 122ms ping 3.96mbps download 1.2mbps upload

This is a known issue..it happens in android-wifi-tether and mobile-ap as well..its definitely using the 4g connection and wifi should be capable of transmitting more..I mean even the lowest is capable of 11mbps..but N should be a lot higher.
As far as I know there is no solution yet...the EVO had the same issue at one point but it was fixed I hear..

Maybe it has something to do with the settings on your phone. I noticed with mine that my speed would just climb and climb then suddenly just drop at around 8. It wouldn't be a slow climb either it's like it's actually being throttled somehow. Try clearing the cache or something, but for some reason those number just don't sound right to me.
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Any idea how or what fixed it?

Just factory reset my phone last night.. And as for the numbers.. I know right.. Something isn't working here..

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Any idea how or what fixed it?
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In their case it had to do with a routing table..but that routing table was for HTC devices so its not related to ours...
Both Mobile-AP and Android-Wifi-Tether experience the same issue as well :/..I do not think its wifi related either..it must be something in between the software and the sending to wifi.
Reason I say this is if you try the device with 4g on 1 bar, then 4g on 2 bars, then 4g on 3 bars on both the device and on phone you will see the speeds vary..example:
1 bar
phone: 4mbps/1mbps
laptop: 0.5mbps/0.03mbs
2bars
phone: 7mpbs/1mbps
laptop: 2mbps/1mbps
If it was the wifi speed, then the speed would not have dropped so much.. something in between is effecting it

Oh.. That makes sense. It's just too bad though. Thanks for helping me understand.

Probably the way the wifi and 4g radios are set up and how they interact with each other, maybe 4g has more priority than wifi. I'm just guessing though. I don't know much
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Just FYI I too was getting slow speeds but with Sprints hotspot that I was paying $30 a month for. Needless to say I cancel the feature and will seek rooting my phone and add the free tethering, casue at those speeds it isnt worth it.

Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.

Gagstr said:
Sounds like the problem you are having might be caused by something that is the result of 4G and Wifi frequencies being the similar. If you are using both frequencies in a close proximity such as a room or house the frequencies have a high likeliness of causing interferences by reflecting off each other. A way to test this would be to compare wirless tethered speeds to wired ones on the same device.... Hope this helps.
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Thing is its getting full speed on the device...at the time its using wimax..so wimax is not having the issue..not to mention..there is a relation to the wimax bars and the wimax speed which is strange...

Weak WiFi Hotspot and 3G

Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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jddalrymple said:
Is anybody else experiencing weak WiFi signal in hotspot mode? Any way to boost the signal or change the WiFi channel?
I just got my EVO Shift last week. I really like the speed and funtionality much better than my old Hero.
My 3G signal seems much weaker than I had with the Hero. I'm dropping calls and data connections in loacations where I never have before.
I guess I should take the phone in to a store and have the Techs check the radios. 4G radio works pretty good, though it too doesn't get the throughput that my Sprint Overdrive did.
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Is the PRL up to date...when I got my shift there was already a new PRL..check settings>system update>update prl
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I did a PRL update when I recieved the phone, but it did do a new update just now. There may be a slight improvement... I think that I'll still get the radios checked today.
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I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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jddalrymple said:
I finally got my phone in to the Sprint shop so they could run some diagnostics on the radios and they tell me its fine... I know its not, but I'll try to be patient and wait until at least the first major update to the phone before I make a rwal stink about it.
Is anybody else experiencing weeker signal levels for voice & data with the Shift? I'm dropping calls and data connections in places I never used to. Plus the signal output in hotspot mode is weak as well. I can be 10 feet from it with my tablet and only get 2 or 3 bars on my wifi signal level.
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I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?

dumper1234 said:
I compared mine to my wife hero, her is more than double my speed. not sure why, I will think a newer phone should be faster. anyone has any ideas?
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If all you want to do is bring up your 3G speeds. Do the mod on THIS post. It should fix the issue for you.

Anyway to improve 3G speeds on AOSP?
Evo SHIFT

Just flash back to a Sense rom. Make the changes, then flash back to AOSP.
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I do believe if you flash to sense, then go back, it has to be a new rom flash, not a nandroid, otherwise it restores those settings from the nandroid, not the changes you made in the sense rom.

You are correct . See now that I forgot to mention that .

Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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Enraged21 said:
Ahh, I'm guessing there's no way around that?
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sprints wifi tether is dependent on the signal strength.
on 3g avg dl speed is 45k upload 13k
4g is 950+kb 720 upload
IF your PRL is up to date AND you aren't fair from a tower

Nexus s 4g signal

I thought I had seen something about radio issues one time but now I can't find the thread. I've noticed that in places that my evo would have great reception the nexus goes between 3g and 1x alot. Also the wifi is a little strange every once and a while I have to reset the router so the nexus will see my network. All computers connect fine but the nexus doesn't even show my network in the list.
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Where you using a sense rom?
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drtdiver83 said:
I thought I had seen something about radio issues one time but now I can't find the thread. I've noticed that in places that my evo would have great reception the nexus goes between 3g and 1x alot. Also the wifi is a little strange every once and a while I have to reset the router so the nexus will see my network. All computers connect fine but the nexus doesn't even show my network in the list.
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I noticed the same thing. I had both a Evo which was on stock HTC Sense, and I also had a Dell Netbook with built in WiMax. Both the Netbook and the Evo had 2-3 bars for 4G WiMax. 3 being full signal.
On the Nexus in the same locations, I only see 1 bar for WiMax 4G. I never loose connection though just the signal appears to be weaker then the Evo / Dell Netbook.

No was on cm7 on the evo. Also when I do the *#*#4636#*#* I see that unknown network is selected.
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I have a sprint tower not more than 300 feet from my shop and inside it goes 3g to 1x Constantly. I go outside and I can get 3 bars 3g. Maybe this radio just doesn't play nice.
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i have the same problem too. Also came from evo running cm7. had great reception everywhere. now i notice a lot of 1x and roaming, i never roamed on the evo.

Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?

Haven't been around 4g yet so I haven't seen what that does
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Paleryder said:
Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?
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4g is a 20 minute drive away. i'll see if i can confirm this later today.

drtdiver83 said:
No was on cm7 on the evo. Also when I do the *#*#4636#*#* I see that unknown network is selected.
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Yup noticed that too. It should be set to cdma auto prl. There is no way to change the setting. I also notice when i update my profile i get no phone calls or acess to rhe net until i restart the network connection. I hope a dev can figure out a fix.

wow really odd, i have amazing signal.. -65 to -78 at all times are you guys looking at the bars or at the numbers?

Yeah I noticed Having to reset the data connection too. i spent an hour on the phone with sprint trying to figure it out and they had no clue about it. They were confused why # codes don't work. Lol had been put on hold numerous times so the tech could call someone else for info.
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fixxxer2008 said:
Yup noticed that too. It should be set to cdma auto prl. There is no way to change the setting. I also notice when i update my profile i get no phone calls or acess to rhe net until i restart the network connection. I hope a dev can figure out a fix.
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If you watch the "unknown", it goes to WCDMA preferred. Back and forth.
Uncle Jimmy says hello

snandlal said:
If you watch the "unknown", it goes to WCDMA preferred. Back and forth.
Uncle Jimmy says hello
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Yeah noticed that too. My evo was set to cdma prl.
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Getting anywhere from. -96 to -101 indoors and -86 outside looking right at a sprint tower.
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Paleryder said:
Same I came from an Epic and signal strength was much better. Not just an indicator. Have you noticed when you are on 4G and run wifi hotspot it knocks you back to a 3G conn?
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I have the same problem. I can see the sprint tower from my house and can't connect to 4g.

shabbypenguin said:
wow really odd, i have amazing signal.. -65 to -78 at all times are you guys looking at the bars or at the numbers?
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It is weird I have very strong signal hovering around -65 to -76 but my data transfer speeds on 3g and 4g are about half of what they were on my Evo running CM7.

Anyone know the other *#*# codes that work on the nexus that allow u to actually edit the settings
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Yeah same thing here came from the evo just activated the ns4g today and I was on 1x at work where I'm normally 3g. But I would not sweat it the phone just came out maybe a sw update will fix it. On the other hand my 4g also seems to have a lower signal also but the speed is good.
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Yeah, I think this is causing battery drain for me as well. I'm pretty disappointed but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to a software issue.

Does the new update fix WiFi issues?

If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?

toddnbrown said:
If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?
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I can't answer that unfortunately. I used to have the same problem at work (they used DLink access points which have problems with Samsung). They just replaced them all with HP hardware and I haven't had the error at all any more.
What I can say is that everything radio seems better for me with this update. I get 2 more bars for cellular reception as well as much better bluetooth clarity.

mistertek said:
I can't answer that unfortunately. I used to have the same problem at work (they used DLink access points which have problems with Samsung). They just replaced them all with HP hardware and I haven't had the error at all any more.
What I can say is that everything radio seems better for me with this update. I get 2 more bars for cellular reception as well as much better bluetooth clarity.
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Service bars are just a visual thing. You have to check the actual reception numbers to see if your cellular reception has improved at all. I have been using my D-Link router with my Note 3 (as well as my previous S3) and the WiFi connection is rock solid. Maybe some of the networking equipment you had at work was older, but Samsung phones and D-Link equipment can connect without issue.

pkd600 said:
Service bars are just a visual thing. You have to check the actual reception numbers to see if your cellular reception has improved at all. I have been using my D-Link router with my Note 3 (as well as my previous S3) and the WiFi connection is rock solid. Maybe some of the networking equipment you had at work was older, but Samsung phones and D-Link equipment can connect without issue.
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I'm aware that the bars can be played with by the carrier.
I used to lose my call twice on the way to work every day. Today I drove all the way without garble or a dropped call. I think the bars are real this time. I haven't checked the actual DB signal strength before so I don't have a good comparison.

mistertek said:
I'm aware that the bars can be played with by the carrier.
I used to lose my call twice on the way to work every day. Today I drove all the way without garble or a dropped call. I think the bars are real this time. I haven't checked the actual DB signal strength before so I don't have a good comparison.
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Not me, mine dropped the call this morning going through a dead spot
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toddnbrown said:
If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?
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I will not tell you that it's your router, because I don't think it is. However, I will tell you that I think it must have something to do with the software/hardware interface or there is something conflicting in the phone, because I did not have the "unstable" wifi issue on MJ7 at all, and after the update to MJE, I get the error every now and then.
Just my experience.

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mwebb34 said:
Im having the exact same problem, and so are many many other people. Its starting to piss me off im paying full price for this damn phone and it should have anything that doesnt work rite. Verizon should give us people that on the verizon edge an option onstead of the same bull**** answer that they always give us.....
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Fortunately for me, I do have the unlimited data, so I always have the option to just use the LTE signal. If I didn't, I would have had to return the phone or my bill would be through the roof. Everything else works fine with my home WiFi, but the Note 3 gives me the "your internet connection is unstable" message, regardless of my proximity to the router i.e. sitting right next to it!! At this point, with there being 2 or 3 "updates" since the phone was released, I have to say it's looking like a hardware problem. Otherwise where's the fix? BTW this is my 2nd Note 3 as I returned the first one thinking I got a lemon. The new one does the exact same thing. Wifi is a pretty basic function of a phone. If they can't get that right, I may have to think twice before I buy Samsung again. Do they not do any testing?

toddnbrown said:
Fortunately for me, I do have the unlimited data, so I always have the option to just use the LTE signal. If I didn't, I would have had to return the phone or my bill would be through the roof. Everything else works fine with my home WiFi, but the Note 3 gives me the "your internet connection is unstable" message, regardless of my proximity to the router i.e. sitting right next to it!! At this point, with there being 2 or 3 "updates" since the phone was released, I have to say it's looking like a hardware problem. Otherwise where's the fix? BTW this is my 2nd Note 3 as I returned the first one thinking I got a lemon. The new one does the exact same thing. Wifi is a pretty basic function of a phone. If they can't get that right, I may have to think twice before I buy Samsung again. Do they not do any testing?
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I asked VZW tech the same question "Don't you people test the device before it gets sold”? Like you sir this makes my 2nd note 3 I bought my first one on the edge program around the first week of NOV of this year. Do you have talk signal bars when your WiFi drops or have you noticed? What I've noticed is that when I lose signal "talk"not "WiFi", then my WiFi drops. I talked to VZW tech yesterday and they said Samsung is aware of the WiFi problem and that Samsung is working on a patch that will fix this problem. I hope Samsung fixes this problem soon because if it doesn't get fixed I will never buy another Samsung device, I'll go back to Nexus.
Retail N3

I found that when we're offshore and I don't have signal mine doesn't give the notice...As soon as I get service again it gives the notice. Our wifi onboard is extremely slow but it doesn't say anything when it's the only option
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This instability function is faulty and should be disabled.
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How good is your wifi signal?

I am thinking on buying the s10+ and for that reason I tested the wifi signal against my....note 3 lite.
Surprisingly, the note 3 lite found more available wifi in contrast to the s10+.
The s10+ is the Exynos version.
I will buy the SD855 version though.
What are your thoughts on the wifi strength you have?
Thank you

I can compare only with mate 10 pro (previous device) and with tablet mediapad m5 Pro and compared to them seems s10+ (exynos) has worst WiFi signal. So more far room where other devices had half signal s10 is showing just above minimum and disconnecting sometimes... But speed seems same when connected.
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Where my wife has 4G I have H. Where she has a workable wifi signal I have nothing. 9+ vs 10+ btw.

Wifi sucks if I'm sat in my living room it's good signal move few meters away and struggles to get 1 bar it switches to 4g yet my wifes Nokia 6.1 has solid wifi even down the garden , not to mention weak signal bars hope they fix soon starting to get frustrating for £1000 phone its lame
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DoobyDroid said:
Wifi sucks if I'm sat in my living room it's good signal move few meters away and struggles to get 1 bar it switches to 4g yet my wifes Nokia 6.1 has solid wifi even down the garden , not to mention weak signal bars hope they fix soon starting to get frustrating for £1000 phone its lame
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U know how bad is wifi signal?
This phone has some smart **** so it wont even show networks with low signal, you need any 3d party wifi scanner app to show and connect to what he thinks are low signal networks.
And yeah, in general it has very weak wifi signal compared to other phones.

So, why should I buy this phone at all?

Hello, I am bumping this thread.
Does anyone notice this?
Any differences between the SD version with the Exynos in regards with the wifi signal?

Punkisn said:
So, why should I buy this phone at all?
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Don't if you are worried of what wifi-networks the phone can see. Why that matter I don't understand.

I've compared my SD s10+ side by side with my old galaxy s8 and the s10+ gets 5dB better signal.

Punkisn said:
So, why should I buy this phone at all?
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I don't think anybody here cares if you buy the phone or not, unless somebody in the thread works directly for Samsung.
The Wi-Fi signal is good enough that's it's never been an issue for me, and I use the Snapdragon model by the way.
Never heard anyone making a phone purchase decision on Wi-Fi signal strength before, but whatever floats your boat.

mistermidas said:
Never heard anyone making a phone purchase decision on Wi-Fi signal strength before, but whatever floats your boat.
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Someone seems to be the first. :laugh::silly:

mistermidas said:
I don't think anybody here cares if you buy the phone or not, unless somebody in the thread works directly for Samsung.
The Wi-Fi signal is good enough that's it's never been an issue for me, and I use the Snapdragon model by the way.
Never heard anyone making a phone purchase decision on Wi-Fi signal strength before, but whatever floats your boat.
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We did back in ye old days purchase phones based on wifi signal reception lol.
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Limeybastard said:
We did back in ye old days purchase phones based on wifi signal reception lol.
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I'm 40, and that's never been a selling point for me. I've always just assumed WiFi would work as it should, and every phone I've bought, it has.