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Next Phone to Buy?

So my dad is a photographer and uses google calendar for all his events. My mom is his assistant. After I got my g1, he loved it so much he got a mytouch 3g. His mytouch is god-awful slow, worse than my g1 when it wasn't rooted. As a result he doesn't use it much. I proposed the idea of rooting it and putting cyanogen on, but he's not so keen on the idea of roms and everything. So what phone should we get with my mom's 2 year upgrade for him? (we would give the mytouch to my mom (after I rooted it of course))

Nexus *cough**cough*

Yell him to wait on line at A&TT and get that IPhone 4GS and pick up a Ipad and a dock for it.
Just joking...The mytouch-Slide might be good since it will have espresso.

I suggest an Acer Liquid
It looks quite nice, its cheaper than all the other SnapDragons
Underclocked yes, but still quite speedy
Its a big improvement over the old G1 I had

thank you all for your help, we'll consider the liquid

hiddengopher said:
thank you all for your help, we'll consider the liquid
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http://pdadb.net/
Might wanna see some of the new phones coming out, the Acer has 256MB Ram which is very little.

Nexus One... and why is that not an option?

pjcforpres said:
Nexus One... and why is that not an option?
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My pops has one and its pretty good but unfortunately the Shadow should have been a choice.
Plus the Galaxy 2 will also have the Nexus launcher and UI.
Ahh but then again the Dragon will soon be awake based on this:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2200&c=google_nexus_one_us_htc_dragon

pjcforpres said:
Nexus One... and why is that not an option?
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we're on a family plan so subsidized is something that appeals to us a bit more.

Hero vs. other phones re: speed

Hi all,
First post, but I've been lurking for a bit.
Anyway, I just got my Hero with Sprint about a week ago and am running DamageControl's current ROM. It's a killer phone, but from what I understand the Droid has more processing power. I've got another 3 weeks to give back everything and get free Droids with Verizon.
I know this is a Hero forum, but I wondered if anybody knew of a "benchmarking" resource for all Android phones.....
thanks!
PS You guys are amazing! I can't believe the amount of product that comes out of this board.

as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...

regaw_leinad said:
Or wait for the one after that with the dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon...
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or wait for the one after that with the 2TB internal storage and stock blowjob app.
whats after that? lol
i like the hero and am willing to stick with it until the evo, and as for whatever comes out after that...i dont know. (android, htc, ect) will eventually release their own iPad, im sure, but i guess its a matter of what YOU want. i got a great plan with sprint (54$ for unlmtd everything) with great coverage (detroit it a major city, its bound to be set up good for the 3G user) and a highly customizable phone to say the least (ill admit i was disappointed when i got the hero, learned of the nexus and all the new upncumins) and am excited to move onto the evo, and can wait patiently.
well, idk about patiently...but ill be waiting...

mountaindont said:
stock blowjob app.
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I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it

regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..

Decad3nce said:
You know you just indirectly asked him if he wanted a blowjob..
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whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol

regaw_leinad said:
whoops.... not really what I meant. It's 3:45am. I need sleep. Working on version 300434 beta 98 of my rom lol
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lol funny read
looking forward to the beta, PM if youd like me to diagnose dr
and its kewl about the BJ app, i found a freshly seeded torrent, multiported(wtf?) for any phone/ROM

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.

mountaindont said:
as we all know, the hero was obsolete was 6 months before it came out. youll go broke trying to keep up. save up your months with sprint and get the evo when it comes out, you wont regret it ;-)
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Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for two lines, 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?

lattiboy said:
Yeah, after studying competing prices, I don't know that I could stomach what everybody else is charging. I just don't get how anybody is competing with Sprint at this point!
I'm paying $129 -%15 for 1500 minutes, web, txt, and mobile-to-mobile. ANYBODY else charges $40-80 a month more!
I guess it's good for us they're so desperate for customers
PS I'm curious as to the price of the EVO. Any guesses?
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with contract? maybe 250 with a rebate? i honestly could NOT even begin to speculate

something i sorely missed somehow
the evo has a fn kickstand?!?!

regaw_leinad said:
I got the leaked version and backported it to the hero...
pm me if you want it
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Hehehe leaked version, sounds a bit premature if ya know what I mean.

josh_131 said:
I was able to see the evo up and running the other day.... WOW. Slim and sleek and very fast... took about a 1/3 or less of the time it took the Hero to open stuff. It was running on 2.1 as well and look really similar to Damages 2.1v5 ROM. This handset is going to really help out Sprint. Only thing the one I saw lacking was they hadn't activated the 4g on it yet.
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HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA

abcdfv said:
HTC is hacking 4G support into the Evo. Just like they did with CDMA
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At least until the next android update (Froyo) is out. I believe Froyo is supposed to support 4G natively

haha, yeah it does. they had it on another phone of theirs in the past (winmo). I wonder what video formats will be supported natively. I hope they add .avi support.
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im still stuck on the freaking kickstand.

Just ask regaw_leinad for a copy of his backported leaky bj app...that'll take your mind off things for awhile.
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id love to see a full working port of android for the tp2, id hop on that super quick. the design and screen resolution is awesome. other than that id say if you want fast wait for the n1 or evo.

mountaindont said:
.. And stock blowjob app.
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do want.
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I think I convinced an apple fanboy

I was over at my Mom's the other night and was talking to her husband about my phone (He's an apple fanboy). I think I convinced him that the Iphone was a piece of $4!t.
I told him that my phone will do 3 things that the Iphone will have trouble with. First I made a call while holding the phone in my left hand. Second I pulled out the battery and finally I pulled out the SD card.
I thought it was kinda funny, so I thought I'd share...

A friend of mine is ditching his iPhone for an Evo.
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But its an iPhone.....

I don't care.
I want the one with Bigger GBs.

And the WiFis
Sent from my fast as hell phone that you can only wish you had

You should have made a video call OTA to someone with an epic.

Will you waive the activation fee? Does it come with a case ? Ill go check out Walgreens , my sister said they had them there !

I'd show them this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/htc?blend=7&ob=4#p/u/11/GHO9A9Zf5g8
While yes, it's a video of the Desire HD.... it's pretty much the same phone as the EVO but with all the crazy new sense features that are ALSO coming to the EVO. That video blew me away. Some of those features are priceless.

hydralisk said:
I'd show them this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/htc?blend=7&ob=4#p/u/11/GHO9A9Zf5g8
While yes, it's a video of the Desire HD.... it's pretty much the same phone as the EVO but with all the crazy new sense features that are ALSO coming to the EVO. That video blew me away. Some of those features are priceless.
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I haven't even finished watching the video and I'm a little blown away. Those are some very, very cool updates

FattySparks said:
I was over at my Mom's the other night and was talking to her husband about my phone (He's an apple fanboy). I think I convinced him that the Iphone was a piece of $4!t.
I told him that my phone will do 3 things that the Iphone will have trouble with. First I made a call while holding the phone in my left hand. Second I pulled out the battery and finally I pulled out the SD card.
I thought it was kinda funny, so I thought I'd share...
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Yeah you forgot, Flash+kickstand=great for prOON on the go.

I came from an iphone 3GS. Believe me I was a huge iphone fan until my eyes saw widgets. That did it for me plus the big screen
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mntbkr said:
Yeah you forgot, Flash+kickstand=great for prOON on the go.
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Seconded.
Southparkstudios.com also works with the Android flash player. How awesome is that?

hydralisk said:
I'd show them this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/htc?blend=7&ob=4#p/u/11/GHO9A9Zf5g8
While yes, it's a video of the Desire HD.... it's pretty much the same phone as the EVO but with all the crazy new sense features that are ALSO coming to the EVO. That video blew me away. Some of those features are priceless.
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Some of those features towards the end like phone lock or the htc sense.com integration with the texting redirect and call redirect is amazing...how do you know its coming to the Evo?

xArmenx said:
I came from an iphone 3GS. Believe me I was a huge iphone fan until my eyes saw widgets. That did it for me plus the big screen
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I came over from a 3GS as well, and I might not have, if it wasn't for the iOS4 update. My 3GS was jailbroken, and set up really well, but I'm a big cycling fan (loved seeing HTC-Columbia featured in that Desire video, even if I did have to watch that tool Cavendish win...like I don't have to see that enough already), and the Tour de France app was crashing on 3.1.1, so I had to "upgrade". Even after jailbreaking iOS4, it was just never the same. Except for the camera and display, my 3GS would have handed the new iPhone its ass, in terms of functionality.
That said, I'm a longtime linux geek, and I did want an android phone, plus the school I go to, their website is in flash, and I do homework through it sometimes...very doable on the Evo, impossible on the iPhone.
Oh, and now I get through phone conversations without losing the call.

Did u also show him your bad battery performance, Weak 4g coverage inside buildings, or crappy market? The envo is great, but all phones have problems, people need to stop tryingn to convince other people and just enjoy their phones.

dabezt1 said:
Did u also show him your bad battery performance, Weak 4g coverage inside buildings, or crappy market? The envo is great, but all phones have problems, people need to stop tryingn to convince other people and just enjoy their phones.
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Maybe people need to stop tryingn to tell other people to quite convincing other people. Forum nazi.

hydralisk said:
I'd show them this:
http://www.youtube.com/user/htc?blend=7&ob=4#p/u/11/GHO9A9Zf5g8
While yes, it's a video of the Desire HD.... it's pretty much the same phone as the EVO but with all the crazy new sense features that are ALSO coming to the EVO. That video blew me away. Some of those features are priceless.
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So, the Desire HD is . . . an Evo. With Aldiko built in.

SilverZero said:
So, the Desire HD is . . . an Evo. With Aldiko built in.
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+ A much more energy efficient CPU, 3-4 times the GPU power, and 50% more RAM.

Award Tour said:
+ A much more energy efficient CPU, 3-4 times the GPU power, and 50% more RAM.
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Dang and I just got the Evo like a month ago... And its already out dated...

fast2049 said:
Dang and I just got the Evo like a month ago... And its already out dated...
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Welcome to technology.

WTF! HTC Inspire

OK WTF... This EVO version of AT&T... Look what it will get...
HTC Sense 2.0 provides a custom user interface for enhanced social networking, navigation, and integration with connected services from HTCsense.com.
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So Sprint and HTC WTF!!!!
For full Specs... http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc-inspire.jsp

Well, it is a newer phone.. and new features are being worked on everyday... sometimes we just have to understand that the EVO isn't always gonna have everything when technology moves as fast as it does.

rockypr said:
OK WTF... This EVO version of AT&T... Look what it will get...
So Sprint and HTC WTF!!!!
For full Specs... http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc-inspire.jsp
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Are you serious? The evo been out for 8 friggin months and the htc inspire hasn't even been released yet and you getting mad at sprint? Damn you funny as hell, if anything att customers should be the one going wtf? Since after almost a year after the evo been in our hands they are only now getting a similar phone with slightly marginal specs.

Yes this is really the EVO2

klquicksall said:
Yes this is really the EVO2
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Nah, that's definitely not the EVO2, more like the EVO+. It's the same phone, just with a couple minor upgrades.

What a waste of good phone with such a horrible network...

SteveDusa said:
What a waste of good phone with such a horrible network...
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well a lot of people like dropped calls and horrible service.

I'm sorry... what part of this phone other than software is better than the EVO? Looks about the same to me (maybe more storage lol)

4g internal. Hopefully Sprint will come out with something better than the thunderbolt.

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4g internal. Hopefully Sprint will come out with something better than the thunderbolt.
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Of course they will, the inspire and the thunderbolt are the same phones in which both are basically a carbon copy of the evo which been out for 8 months with the exception of a few differences(mainly updated snapdragon and the newer version of sense). Anyway, sprint has too much riding on the evo name than to come out with an evo 2 with half assed specs.

_MetalHead_ said:
Nah, that's definitely not the EVO2, more like the EVO+. It's the same phone, just with a couple minor upgrades.
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I thought we were the HD2+!

Dissenter said:
I'm sorry... what part of this phone other than software is better than the EVO? Looks about the same to me (maybe more storage lol)
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It's got a better processor (MSM8255 45nm vs the EVO's QSD8650 65nm), more internal memory, MUCH better screen (SLCD), and Sense 2.0.
It's a better device, no question.

It's a better phone to be sure, but not a huge upgrade from the EVO. Though it's always nice to have choice, I'm sure some AT & T users would prefer another Sense phone.

Call it the EVO 4gS

No front camera is a deal-breaker for me. No thanks!
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I haven't used my front camera once since I got this thing on launch day.

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I haven't used my front camera once since I got this thing on launch day.
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I use it to video chat on Tango with my wife, my sister, and my parents all the time. Plus soon Skype will be doing mobile to desktop video chat and it will really blow up. I'd never get a phone with no FFC these days.
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The only difference I saw was EVO can tether 8 devices and the other phone only five.
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I too have never used the FFC (bought the evo in august).
I don't even know if it works

rockypr said:
OK WTF... This EVO version of AT&T... Look what it will get...
So Sprint and HTC WTF!!!!
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It's internal memory is four times the size of the Evos, I'm sure that makes the new sense much easier to fit on there.

[Q] Thinking about getting an EPIC, can people help with a bit info on it?

I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.

SDRebel said:
I see the last thread with questions like this was from March, so I just wanted to get the latest about the EPIC...
Are there GPS, wifi, or keyboard issues or these are fixed by one or multiple ROMS available?
Are many devs still working on this device or had it been somewhat abandoned?
is CM7 pretty good without major bugs ?
will the battery last a full day with most ROMs with regular use (i.e. checking email, some web browing, maybe an hour of music streaming, etc)
Netflix works on some ROMs, right?
I have a Hero with CM7 and I like, but amazon still has (and BB just ended yesterday) free EPIC for upgrades, so thinking about getting one. I would get the EVO, but it's still $150 almost anywhere and at that price I would rather pay $200 for the E3D...but from $0 to $200 there's still a big difference
Thanks in advance
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1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.

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The Epic is an excellent device. Pretty much any issue we have has been fixed by the great devs here, but remember that the E3D and GS2 will be available soon. You might wanna wait and see first.
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Thanks. I know both are coming, the ED3 probably much sooner...I don't think I'll spend $200 on one of those phones though...but I am hoping the regular EVO can be free somewhere soon

Darkshneider said:
1. No problems with those in almost any ROM.
2. Devs are still around and work is still being done.
3. CM7 is still in Alpha 4 but its being worked on by TeamHacksung.
4. Cant really answer about batter since there are more factors than the ones you mentioned like signal quality in your area. Battery has gotten better though.
5. Yes, Netflix works on some ROMs.
Side note: Hero development was and still is pretty big compared to the Epic, dont expect the same amount of development for it.
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Thanks for the answer, but wow, Hero has more development than the Epic? I wouldn't have expected that. I was going to get the Epic from BB yesterday, but the one I went to sold out and the next one only had two and I ran out of time, so I either get it from Amazon or wait for another sale

The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Boss86 said:
The Epic is a very awesome device and is adequte for your your eveyday uses on top of mods. The Epic has tons of ROMs, themes, and other customization tools that have been worked on the past few months which made many of them "bug free". The full QWERTY keyboard comes in hand which really makes this device "EPIC".
If you are a real hard core developer and wouldn't mind living without the keyboard then I would recommend the Nexus which is very simular but with monster hardware, like the dual core processor for increased speed and performance. The down fall to these new devices is that there has not been as much development put into them yet, so customization is not as optional compared to the "Epic". The epic is an advance telecommunicational device not a cell phone but unfortunately there are more cell phone users on the sprint network that don't understand the power of the Epic. I hope this clearifies your decision. I hope that you decied to live the "Epic Life".
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Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
Also, Hero has more development since it was one of the first Android phones for Sprint, it was one of the nicest ones for its time and it was an HTC phone. Samsung tends to keep away developers. After the Evo came out, a few devs jumped ship to that but there were too many devs to let the phone die. Hell, look at Deca, I was so happy when he said he got an Epic knowing all the stuff he did for the Hero, I still cant wait what he can do for the Epic.

Darkshneider said:
Nexus S has dual core? Since when?
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It doesn't lol.
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zanderman112 said:
It doesn't lol.
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Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)

Darkshneider said:
Cmon Zander, I was trying to get HIS answer lol.
(I know it doesnt have dual core)
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Oh, sorry
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SDRebel said:
Thanks in advance
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I have had my epic since jan maybe before but it seems like forever the phone stock is great I had no issues with any of the stock apps and functions. Now that I'm rooted and on syndicate frozen 1.1.1 its like having a brand new phone again. my opinion is get it you can't go wrong with it the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it. Hope this helps.
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You wont find a better phone on the Sprint network for the same price for at least another 6-9 months (Free).

bmx_boi32 said:
the slide out keyboard is great for games but with swype I almost never use it.
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The keyboard was a big factor for me in choosing the Epic over the Evo. I still think I made the right choice, but I *never* use the keyboard. It's just too easy to type with swype. Whenever I ultimately decide to upgrade, it will be to a phone with no keyboard.

I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Boss86 said:
I do apologize about the miss information about the Nexus 4g, I was under the impression that it has a snapdragon processor. I believe that's the E3D. Thanks for the correction guys.
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Lol its ok. The Nexus S has the same 1Ghz Hummingbird we do.
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I just got a new epic for free at best buy and gave my gf my old epic to replace her ****ty moment. For free the phone kicks all the "budget androids" asses. Order while you can for free at amazon.
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epic is the stuff
i love my epic..... had a semi brick the other day had me worried but odin did the trick even had a screen that ppl well versed in the epic language have never seen but with some persistance i got her back up and running

If you root it, its a good phone.
GPS Aids is a must, GPS is golden now.
4G only works outside...
The Viper Rom is the best, just use Root Uninstaller to delete the teams bloatware.
Dont overclock (only fun for benches), its not worth the battery lose/glitches.. Just use setcpu to change the governor to Performance.. Alot of games play good with Performance gov. and clocks set to as low as 400 mhz.
Only complaint: No gyro. Dont give me any lines about this! I wanna play Nova with a gyro not a touch screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.

the keyboard is great for using Terminal Em. or punching in passwords. But ya it might not be worth the bulk..

promega said:
I WILL MOVE OVER TO IPHONE JUST FOR THe GYRO, if still no phones/apps on android support it in Nov.
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I must be confused about what you mean by Gyro
I play quite a few games that operate via tilting the phone only, rather than the touch screen