HI friends after my last charger got lost I am looking for another charger but as I am not able to find a right one I am forced to charge it with my PC USB. May I know which is the right charger I mean the voltage because I have a mp3 player charger with USB plug. Can I use that it differs in the voltage up to a very less extent. Is there any harm of using duplicate or different companies charger. I have heard that motorola charger works with HTC devices as well. So plz guide me friends with Your valuable comments..Cheers
The output on my charger is 5v--- 1000mA. I have a similar charger for my Motorola S9 stereo bluetooth headphones and use this to charge my phone but this is 5v---850mA and I have noticed that although it charges the phone sometimes the charge icon does not light up.
I sometimes use the phone charge to charge my bluetooth GPS but although it charges fine the GPS won't work at the same time as I am charging, which it will do with a PC USB lead or even the Motorola charger.
I would try and get a charger that puts out 1000mA. (1A)
Wam7 said:
The output on my charger is 5v--- 1000mA. I have a similar charger for my Motorola S9 stereo bluetooth headphones and use this to charge my phone but this is 5v---850mA and I have noticed that although it charges the phone sometimes the charge icon does not light up.
I sometimes use the phone charge to charge my bluetooth GPS but although it charges fine the GPS won't work at the same time as I am charging, which it will do with a PC USB lead or even the Motorola charger.
I would try and get a charger that puts out 1000mA. (1A)
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Yes, very much agree with that. Non official chargers are OK as a stop gap until you get the correct 5v, 1000mA one. Some quirky things can happen using lower power ones. (the mini usb connector is wired slightly differently and this can have some odd - but not usually damaging effects).
Mike
Hi,
I bought a wall charger for my N1 today. I was searching for one with 1000 mA output so the phone would charge twice as fast, but after having it on for a long time and seeing that it was only 22% charged, I looked at the battery status and it said "USB". I unplugged it, plugged the stock adapter and it said "AC", and started to charge at the usual speed.
Is there a way to have wall chargers that are NOT the ones provided by HTC charge at a normal speed? thanks!
Interesting... it happens the same thing with an iPhone charger, which have the same output characteristics as the stock charger. I never thought looking at the battery status
FWIW, you can easily see if your phone is charging fast or slow by installing the quick system info app (AC=fast, USB=slow).
I'm using the 1000 mA charger with the USB to micro USB cable that came bundled with the phone. Might it be the cable limiting the power?
I've been trying to figure this out too...
I bought a USB car charger to charge my phone in the car whilst driving.
However even with my phone on standby it still loses power.... I don't know whether it's because I'm using the USB cable or the charger is inferior.
It is rated a 1000mA (the charger).
I bought the HTC car charger from expansys.. bit costly at around £20 for a charger but it works perfectly for me. Drove 4 hours with copilot running, and battery remained perfectly charged
As well as the stock charger, I often use a pikie USB charger with a Nokia micro USB cable... phone reports an AC charger in use.
Hello, I've just bought an emergency charger for my Kaiser. It takes the power from an AA battery and gives the USB voltage in the output. It works great with my Mio A 501, but doesn't work at all with the Kaiser. I did a quick search and found this in a discussion about car chargers:
Are you using the HTC charger or an OEM one?
The HTC charger works all the time the OEM ones don't - the reason being that if you use a normal Mini USB cable, the handsets will only take a charge if there is an indication of a data connection (either than gprs or the cable) - otherwise it won't take a charge.
You can apparently solder a couple of wires together on a normal mini USB cable - but I wouldn't know where to start on that!
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Now I've already heard of that, for example, a Play Station Portable needs the data wires in the USB grounded in order to charge. Is it the same with Kaiser? (putting three wires together isn't a big deal) Or is there an easier way how to make it charge?
So, I gave it a try and soldered the data wires with the ground wire. But when I try to charge the Kaiser, a yellow led starts to glow (which it didn't with the original cable) and, after a minute or two, the led goes off and Kaiser stops charging. When I turn the Kaiser off and then plug the cable in, the yellow led doesn't go off. However, when I turn Kaiser back on to check the battery meter (after about half an hour), I find out that the battery didn't take any charge at all. So, could anyone tell me what the problem is?
thanks, Mike
PS.: Adding some photos of the wires...
Probably because of the voltage...
Hey!
Have you checked the output voltage of this charger? Standard charger outputs 5V. If yours outputs less - the battery won't charge; if outputs more - you may "burn" your PDA chipsets
5V - 5.5V is safe range.
I found this on thinkgeek.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/b43f/
It says for iPhone, but sure it would work just fine with other devices that have issues.
had a same problem but using it in the car...
when i got my tytn2 i immediately bought a car charger and the salesman told it's an original one, said output 5v 1A.. when using in the car it charged for a minute or two and went off... than i got from ebay a micro usb 1A charger (used for iPhone too) and tried in the car-> it work flawlessly
My S4 has developed a problem where it seems to stop charging overnight, leaving me with a low battery in the morning. When I plug it into the charger the red light comes on, but when I return in the morning it has stopped charging and the battery has lost 20% of its charge.
A different USB cable, plugged into the same charger, seems to be charging it for now. Does this mean that the original cable is faulty, or do I need to get the USB connector on the phone checked out?
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My S4 has developed a problem where it seems to stop charging overnight, leaving me with a low battery in the morning. When I plug it into the charger the red light comes on, but when I return in the morning it has stopped charging and the battery has lost 20% of its charge.
A different USB cable, plugged into the same charger, seems to be charging it for now. Does this mean that the original cable is faulty, or do I need to get the USB connector on the phone checked out?
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Maybe there is overheating problem so phone stops charging process. Try to start charging and observe it. When it stops charging again, check if it is hot.
Diamond 2 owner said:
Maybe there is overheating problem so phone stops charging process. Try to start charging and observe it. When it stops charging again, check if it is hot.
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Seems to be, i've noticed this myself too on days my room is very hot. Ever since i've undervolted a little it hasn't happened again.
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Kenablo said:
Seems to be, i've noticed this myself too on days my room is very hot. Ever since i've undervolted a little it hasn't happened again.
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First make sure that phone is placed on clean, flat surface with good air flow. Worst case is placing it on bed, blanket or pillow - it will overheat for sure.
Undervolting will not help a lot, as it only affect CPU/GPU heating, while they are usually idling during charging. Main source of heat in that situation is not a CPU/GPU but charging itself.
If you have really high room temperature, and you can do nothing about it, than you can slow down charging process, so it will decrease charging heating. Just use regular USB port (computer or generic USB charger) instead dedicated Samsung S4 charger. Charging current will be decreased from 1.9A to 500mA.
If you want to have more control over charging and temperatures you could install Battery Monitor Widget Pro (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw.pro). See example of data which you can got with on wireless charging thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43224425&postcount=1018
My battery temperature goes up to 35C during charging (wireless charging).
The theory re. heat is interesting, but doesn't seem to explain why switching USB cables fixed the problem immediately in this case. Is the S4 particularly sensitive to the fit of the USB cable in the socket??
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The theory re. heat is interesting, but doesn't seem to explain why switching USB cables fixed the problem immediately in this case. Is the S4 particularly sensitive to the fit of the USB cable in the socket??
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No, S4 is not particularly sensitive to the fit of the USB cable in the socket.
Keep in mind, that max charging current on S4 is based on detection routine which tries to figure it out what is phone connected to (is it regular USB port specified for up to 500mA or dedicated 2 amps charger). It is necessary to accomplish down compatibility with generic USB hosts (you can connect S4 to every USB device) and fast charging feature (less then 2h charging time).
So, you can say, that S4 is sensitive to USB cable/device type. Switching from dedicated cable/charger to 3rd party, could decrease charging current and generated heat.
I hope, this theory explains all your doubts
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No, S4 is not particularly sensitive to the fit of the USB cable in the socket.
Keep in mind, that max charging current on S4 is based on detection routine which tries to figure it out what is phone connected to (is it regular USB port specified for up to 500mA or dedicated 2 amps charger). It is necessary to accomplish down compatibility with generic USB hosts (you can connect S4 to every USB device) and fast charging feature (less then 2h charging time).
So, you can say, that S4 is sensitive to USB cable/device type. Switching from dedicated cable/charger to 3rd party, could decrease charging current and generated heat.
I hope, this theory explains all your doubts
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Thanks for the explanation - it certainly does help. It looks as if the flaw may be with the detection routine, which was preventing it from charging when connected to the stock charger/stock cable, but was happy to allow it when using a different cable with the stock charger.
It also explains another anomaly - when using the S4 as a Sat Nav in the car with a TomTom High-Speed multi charger the phone will only charge if the screen is turned off. With the screen on it actually loses charge.
Is there any way to "hack" this logic to eradicate these anomalies and ensure that the phone charges when you want it to? Or could it be that there is actually a fault with my phone that needs to be checked out?
I suspect this may not be normal...I've just plugged the phone into the stock charger/cable. The phone/battery are not remotely warm, but the phone isn't charging, even though the battery icon in the notification bar says that it is (there's a lightning bolt in the battery icon but it just lost 1% charge in 2 mins with the screen turned off).
The LED went red when I first plugged it in, but the red light went out after a minute, although the lightning bolt remained in the battery icon in the notification bar.
???
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I suspect this may not be normal...I've just plugged the phone into the stock charger/cable. The phone/battery are not remotely warm, but the phone isn't charging, even though the battery icon in the notification bar says that it is (there's a lightning bolt in the battery icon but it just lost 1% charge in 2 mins with the screen turned off).
The LED went red when I first plugged it in, but the red light went out after a minute, although the lightning bolt remained in the battery icon in the notification bar.
???
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At this point it sounds like you have a defective battery/phone Anyway, here's a sample test you can try:
Get this app: Galaxy Charging Current Lite
With the stock charger/cable you should be seeing (remember to keep refreshing):
- Not charging - -
- Screen on - 1200 mA
- Screen off - 1900 mA
(yes, there's a difference in the charging current depending on whether the screen is off or on)
Plugged to a standard USB port: 460 mA
Plugged to a car charger - depends on the output of the charger - most car chargers are 1A these days
Try with different cables plugged into a PC USB port - you should be getting a constant 460 mA charge. If it stops as described and you tried a few cable it's likely the battery/phone. HTH
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At this point it sounds like you have a defective battery/phone Anyway, here's a sample test you can try:
Get this app: Galaxy Charging Current Lite
With the stock charger/cable you should be seeing (remember to keep refreshing):
- Not charging - -
- Screen on - 1200 mA
- Screen off - 1900 mA
(yes, there's a difference in the charging current depending on whether the screen is off or on)
Plugged to a standard USB port: 460 mA
Plugged to a car charger - depends on the output of the charger - most car chargers are 1A these days
Try with different cables plugged into a PC USB port - you should be getting a constant 460 mA charge. If it stops as described and you tried a few cable it's likely the battery/phone. HTH
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Thanks. The Galaxy Charging Current Lite app shows:
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with stock battery: a steady 340
- Connected to stock charger, screen off, with stock battery: 380
- Connected to PC USB port, with stock battery: 460
- Connected to car charger, with stock battery: 500
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with 3rd party battery: a steady 300
Can I assume from the above that the phone is faulty?
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Thanks. The Galaxy Charging Current Lite app shows:
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with stock battery: a steady 340
- Connected to stock charger, screen off, with stock battery: 380
- Connected to PC USB port, with stock battery: 460
- Connected to car charger, with stock battery: 500
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with 3rd party battery: a steady 300
Can I assume from the above that the phone is faulty?
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I just tried a few different USB cables with the stock charger - these gave me interesting results:
- Cable 1 : 1200
- Cable 2: 1200
- Cable 3: 420
So maybe it's the stock cable that's the problem?
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Thanks. The Galaxy Charging Current Lite app shows:
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with stock battery: a steady 340
- Connected to stock charger, screen off, with stock battery: 380
- Connected to PC USB port, with stock battery: 460
- Connected to car charger, with stock battery: 500
- Connected to stock charger, screen on, with 3rd party battery: a steady 300
Can I assume from the above that the phone is faulty?
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Actually it looks like more of a problem with your stock charger (as you're getting normal charge from a USB port)!
- Are you using the same cable with your stock charger, when connected to the PC USB port and your car charger? Try a different cable in all this scenarios to rule out the cable as a factor.
- What I'd recommend is to find another stock charger - go to a Samsung shop / service center - ask to test on site and see what input your phone is getting. You may test with any other mains charger but as you need to be sure of the power it delivers I'd test with an official Samsung 2A charger. If you don't get 1200/1900 with another official charger (and a working cable) then it's an issue with the phone/battery.
Re your car charger. It's possible that your car charger is 500 ma only (check the writing) if it's 0.5 A you need a new one (get a 2A one). Is it a real 12V cigarette charger or are you plugging the cable in a USB port on your car?
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itm said:
I just tried a few different USB cables with the stock charger - these gave me interesting results:
- Cable 1 : 1200
- Cable 2: 1200
- Cable 3: 420
So maybe it's the stock cable that's the problem?
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There you go I fried two old cables already so not all of them can sustain the 2A charge. Use Cable 1 or 2. Make sure it also charges at 1900 ma - plug it in, open the app, refresh so that it shows 1200 ma. Turn the screen off. Give it 5 seconds (red led should turn on). Turn the screen back on. immediately refresh - you should see 1900.
I'm getting 1200/1900 from the stock charger if I use "Cable 1" or "Cable 2" as referred to above, so I guess that indicates that the charger is OK? (the stock cable only gives 300 from the same charger)
I'm surprised that I can only get 500 from the car charger using Cable 1/2, as it is advertised as having a 2amp port. In fact I get a higher charge rate (740) using the "slower" port on the TomTom charger - i.e. the port labelled "high-speed" actually delivers less current.
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Yes cable 3 has gone bad. You should be good with the others.
Re the car charger - is 500 all you get with cable 1 or 2? Is the charger rated 2A for Android phones? Note that some high current chargers are high current only for Apple products and default to much lower output with non Apple products. It can also be a bad charger.- I had a defective 2A Anker car charger which wouldn't charge above 760. I RMAed it and the replacement works as intended.
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Yes cable 3 has gone bad. You should be good with the others.
Re the car charger - is 500 all you get with cable 1 or 2? Is the charger rated 2A for Android phones? Note that some high current chargers are high current only for Apple products and default to much lower output with non Apple products. It can also be a bad charger.- I had a defective 2A Anker car charger which wouldn't charge above 760. I RMAed it and the replacement works as intended.
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I can get 1200 from the car charger with Cable 1. It's rated at 2A for TomTom devices.
Now this is bizzarre...I just took delivery of a brand new Nexus 10 and immediately tried the charger and cable from that with the Galaxy S4 - I only got 300ma. Can this really be coincidence??
Yes, weird. What about the the other way around - not sure whether the app will work on the Nexus but you can try. Try the S4 charger and cable with the Nexus.
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Yes, weird. What about the the other way around - not sure whether the app will work on the Nexus but you can try. Try the S4 charger and cable with the Nexus.
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The Galaxy Charging Current App doesn't work on the Nexus 10 for some reason - it doesn't respond to a charger being connected to it
Can Samsung really be shipping dodgy cables on a mass scale?
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The Galaxy Charging Current App doesn't work on the Nexus 10 for some reason - it doesn't respond to a charger being connected to it
Can Samsung really be shipping dodgy cables on a mass scale?
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I doubt it. No surprises that the app doesn't work on non-Galaxy devices.
By the way how did you try the cable from the Nexus? Isn't is a pogo cable (the wider one)?
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By the way how did you try the cable from the Nexus? Isn't is a pogo cable (the wider one)?
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No it's a standard Micro USB.
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No it's a standard Micro USB.
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If you get the same low charge rate with the Nexus charger/cable I'd take it to Samsung and show them the charge rate you're getting. Even if it works with another cable something is definitely not right - let them figure it out.
I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
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I own a Galaxy S2. I have tried it using for navigation many times only to find that the battery discharges fully within 2 hours even if the phone is connected to a car charger. I used to think may be its because my car charger doesn't provide enough current to maintain the charge. But recently I found out the culprit. After around 20 minutes of use, the phone battery starts heating up, and it stops charging. I verified this with CPU-Z. It clearly shows battery overheated, power supply connected and not charging.
I was wondering if S4 also has similar issue. Has anybody used it for more than 2 hours with Google Navigation continuously while connected to car charger?
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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The most I have used it for is about an hour and half, and while the phone did heat up, it did continue to keep charging while connected to my in-car charger (just a cheap one). I can't remember whether the charger was able to keep up with the discharge though, I think it did. I was driving in bright sunlight, so I had screen brightness on max throughout that time.
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I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
HTH
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I've found that the USB cable can have a big impact on the charging current. I had the same problem with my car charger not keeping the phone charged, even though I was using a 2A charger. When I changed the USB cable I managed to quadruple the charging current (from 300ma to 1200ma) and solved the problem (I measured the charging current using the Galaxy Charging Current Lite app).
HTH
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In my case, I believe it was not because of the charging current or cable. I was trying with a car charger capable of charging a laptop, using the wall charger and cable which came with the phone. When the mobile stopped charging, I checked in CPU-Z app. The app was clearly showing status as "power supply connected, not charging and battery overheated". If I unplug the USB cable and connect it back, it will start charging again!
To make sure that I didn't miss anything, I will try with the app you suggested.
Just to update: The Galaxy Charging Current Lite doesn't seem to work with my Galaxy S2. It doesn't show any value.