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Hi, I have been watching with keen interest the development of the Universal. I had the original XDA and the XDA2 but have been waiting for this 3G device before I upgrade.
I have one on back order, but not with Expansys. I have been watching Expansys wondering if I should get one through them instead of waiting however when I phoned them for some technical info about 3G networks the sales individual did not know anything about the "UK networks"!!!
So, does anyone know if you can take an unlocked, uncofigured, JasJar (such as those being sold on Expansys) and just configure the settings for 3G, or is it far more complicated than that.
I am sure I read somewhere that 3G settings need to be configured by the network, unlike GPRS which I have easily configured for my voda sim card in my xdas.
Well if it can be configured, anyone know the settings for the JasJar to use vodafone 3G ??
Cheers, Numb
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
jasjar on vodafone
just got my jasjar today, put in my normal sim which was purchased already on the normal 2g network and it not only came up ok but came up on vodafones 3g network with no problems what so ever.
talking to vodafone they also told me that for instance my 3g sim from my datacard which is not even on a voice contract would work though of course as i have no free minutes i would get charged at normal network rates for voice calls.
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n1, thats good to hear. But did u have to configure any settings for 3G ? or was the phone already configured, and if it was already configured it who by, Expansys ?
If they are unlocked presumably you have to configure it to your chosen network ?
Thx fer the reply tho, can't wait to get mine now, you lucky devil.
Cheers, Numb
to make a long stiry short: settings for gprs and umts/3g are the same, no need to change anything, if you have your vodafone gprs set you are ready to use 3g as well.
cheers, lutz
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:lol: n1 lutzh that is what I was after. Keeping my fingers crossed for early next week. Otherwise I may to try a different distributer.
Thx again for the heads up.
Cheers, Numb
Hi all,
Congrats for the nice forum. I got my MDA compact sim free recently which I used with my Vodafone UK sim card and it worked fine. However I have signed a new contract on 3G UK in Phones4you where I was convinced by the dealer that the sim card can be used to another sim free phone apart from the 3G Nokia 6680 I have taken. It seems that this was not true because when I insert the sim card in the MDA it says "Ivalid Sim Card" and I can't use it now. Do you know any way I could manage my problem? Any advice is appreciated. Thank you very much.
I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
kneeslasher said:
I'm interested in this too. I have considered switching to the 3 network but that fact that you have to use their phones has thus far put me off.
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Yes, they have good price plans, but I am really disappointed cause I can't use my MDA. Their sim cards seem to be locked and unfortunately I have no idea whether there is any way to make it suitable to non-3G phones.
The dealer lied.
3 will not allow non 3G phones because it involve cost to them. Three roam to O2's GSM (2G and 2.5G) when you are out of range of the 3 network and that costs them money. If you have a 2.5G phone like the Magician then it will be permanently roamed to O2 and they would make no money from you becasue they would be billed by O2 for your calls.
Don't forget you get a "cooling off" period on these contracts. Might be worth using it.
MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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MDA Compact is not a UMTS phone! :roll: I think it couldn't operate in 3G networks! Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe this is true
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
Thank you all for the replys, it seems that unfortunately in UK it would be impossible to use 3G card on the MDA. As the 6680 has nothing in common with the MDA I hope my bills to compensate the inconvenience :mrgreen:
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Using a non umts phone like the magician to connect to a umts network seems to me a very strange and bad idea.
Wait until next year (not so long) and buy the HTC Hermes or the XDA version : it's a S110 with the features of a QTEK 9100 and umts and wifi and ....
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RT-PRO said:
I tried Orange 3G sim card and it worked just fine on my MDA compact.. :?
Was able to make phonecalls and access the internet without any prob.
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Are you sure?! This is very strange! Are you talking about Orange in Israel?! :shock:
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Yeah, an Israeli Orange sim card works OK on my Magician.
of course I couldn't use any 3G services... :roll:
3 is a UMTS-only network. All 3G phones in the UK are dual-mode GSM/UMTS phones.
Because the 3 network does not cover enough of the UK it has an arrangement with O2 so that 3 phones will 'roam' to O2 when out of 3 coverage. When they do this they use O2's GSM network. So, a GSM phone with a 3 USim would be permanently roamed to O2 as I said earlier.
An Orange USim will work in an Orange GSM phone. Orange (in the UK) have a GSM Network and are rolling out a UMTS network. When an Orange phone is out of reach of the Orange UMTS network, it simply uses the Orange GSM network instead. Now if you put a usim into an Orange GSM phone, it simply accesses the Orange GSM network and can't see the UMTS one. Oh and it will be able to use the 2.5G GPRS system as well.
A bit wordy but I think it's clear.
also remember folks thats "3" use a 5volt sim card unlike every other uk network that still use the old 3volt cards.
Hello All,
Can someone kindly tell me if he has used 3G on Exec/ Jasjar and if yes, then what is your connection type?
Also, has anyone used Skype on his Exec/ Jasjar???
Regards
mr_dar said:
Hello All,
Can someone kindly tell me if he has used 3G on Exec/ Jasjar and if yes, then what is your connection type?
Also, has anyone used Skype on his Exec/ Jasjar???
Regards
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yes, i have used 3G on it (qtek 9000).
how do you mean connection type? it said UMTS vodafone HU. (i live in hungary)
I meant who is ur 3G Provider ?? Nextel, Cingular, Verizon etc
Also, would u tell us about your experience .. speed wise, battery consumption and cost??
mr_dar said:
I meant who is ur 3G Provider ?? Nextel, Cingular, Verizon etc
Also, would u tell us about your experience .. speed wise, battery consumption and cost??
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vodafone hungary. but i can also check out pannon GSM.. (a specific hungarian provider), i will try my pannon SIM in the qtek 9000 soon
speed wise, i've been able to get 300 kbps easily. battery consumption doesn't feel too bad, actually i think it is surprisingly good. cost is the same as plain gprs, if i pay for gprs i automatically get 3G with it. 15$ a month for 100 MB (if i had a contract this would be 200 MB, sigh).
all in all i really love 3G!
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i was reading at modaco ( http://www.modaco.com/Vario-II-OUT-NOW-Telesales-onlyand33-t244456.html ) that to get HSDPA you need to have WnW PRO :S i got confused now.
is it correct?
i hvent been told that.
HSDPA is a software upgrade to the existing 3G network from t-mobile. It does not require activation by customer services, it does not cost any extra to use and is not available only to web and walk pro users.
From what I read on the t-mobile site, there are no differences between the 2 types of the service...
web'n'walk is an extra to your Flext, U-Fix, Relax or payg tarrifs.
Web'n'walk PRO is the same service, but comes with a HSDPA laptop card and could be called a data only contract. The sim card will let you make calls etc, but has no calltime or sms allowances. I beleive its market is business users on the move.
I myself have a HTC TYTN using my flext 25 + web'n'walk sim card. I have tried it in my local 3G area and HSDPA speeds were available. I did not have to activate anything and it works a treat.
T-Mobile confirmed to me earlier that HSDPA is available to anyone who has a compatible handset, users of the Laptop card and upcoming Vario II will be able to use it fully. You can also receive HSDPA without web'n'walk, it is afterall only a software upgrade to 3G, so if you can receive the 3G UMTS signal you can use HSDPA.
are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
I got myself a t-mobile payg sim the other day and they told me in the store that I wouldn't get the hsdpa. I do! Good deal I think for £1 per day.
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are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
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Everything I said was told to me by a t-mobile customer service agent last night when I tried to activate HSDPA
My standard web'n'walk service seems to get HSDPA without any problems.
The best action would be to call t-mobile and find out if your account will have it or not.
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are you sure about that thats not what i've heard and its not whast going around on alot of the forums...
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yep, adam_beasley is right. HSDPA is just 3G network upgrade, available to anyone having HSDPA compatibile handsets.
[Q] Carrier recommendation for Italy - Rome (best data pre-paid SIM for 5 days use)
Hi, I'm going to Italy (Rome) at the end of this month and I want to ask for your help for choosing the best data pre-paid SIM available.
My needs are:
1. I will use the SIM for only 5 days.
2. 500Mb - 1Gb/day (preferable unlimited or at least 3GB/month)
3. No voice or SMS or MMS (I don't use them)
4. SIM should be "hot-spot" friendly (I will use it with a 3G router - TP-LINK mobile router)
5. I expect to pay a maximum of 15-20 Euro for it.
For as much as I seen, Wind Mobile has the offer that matches my needs but their site is Italian only and there are some strange condition that I don't fully understand like "the SIM is only 1 Euro but if you live the network in the first 24 months(!) you have to return its full price of 14 Euro".
What is you advice?
Thank you.