Hey guys, here's the deal. I can't feel my phone vibrating. My previous phone (good ol' Moto Rizr) vibrated like a freakin monster. The vibration alone when it was on the table beside my bed was enough to wake me up. The Hero...not so much. I'd describe this phone's vibration as a buzz, and the Rizr was more of a "rumble". What I'm wondering is, is there an app that allows you to change the frequency the phone vibrates at when receiving calls, alarms, etc.? I think lowering the frequency would solve the problem, but is it even possible to change?
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Hey guys, here's the deal. I can't feel my phone vibrating. My previous phone (good ol' Moto Rizr) vibrated like a freakin monster. The vibration alone when it was on the table beside my bed was enough to wake me up. The Hero...not so much. I'd describe this phone's vibration as a buzz, and the Rizr was more of a "rumble". What I'm wondering is, is there an app that allows you to change the frequency the phone vibrates at when receiving calls, alarms, etc.? I think lowering the frequency would solve the problem, but is it even possible to change?
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The only thing you can change is the pattern of the vibration. This is the one thing that really annoys me about this phone. So I just don't use the vibrate and take my chances at work.....luckily, I don't get many calls on it..............
Search for the app smart vibrator it will help a little bit
jaylove74 said:
Search for the app smart vibrator it will help a little bit
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I tried smart vibrate and found it just allows you to customizing the length of the vibration, it does nothing for the strength/frequency....
After taking the phone apart a few times, I can tell you its not just the speed at which the motor turns (frequency) but also the size of the counterweight. Its just not as big as some of the older clamshell phones. For the haptic feedback and what not, it needs a small weight that a small motor that it can turn very fast for a very short period of time.
The sacrifice is the "strength" of the vibration, which is set by the weight of the actual cam on the motor. Slowing the motor down would yes, probably cause more of a rumble.
If you feel adventerous enough, you could take the phone apart, and put a very small resistor in between the motor terminals... not sure how many ohms it would take, but problaby not much.
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After taking the phone apart a few times, I can tell you its not just the speed at which the motor turns (frequency) but also the size of the counterweight. Its just not as big as some of the older clamshell phones. For the haptic feedback and what not, it needs a small weight that a small motor that it can turn very fast for a very short period of time.
The sacrifice is the "strength" of the vibration, which is set by the weight of the actual cam on the motor. Slowing the motor down would yes, probably cause more of a rumble.
If you feel adventerous enough, you could take the phone apart, and put a very small resistor in between the motor terminals... not sure how many ohms it would take, but problaby not much.
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Thanks. I used to take computers apart for a living and for hobby...but I don't think I want to try it with the phone. I guess the only other option is setting a very long vibrate and hope I feel it eventually.
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Has anyone made a haptic touch plugin for wm6 devices?
Would love the phone to slightly vibrate when I use the touch keyboard.
I'm on a htc diamond btw.
I think it would be cool too, but I think one of the biggest problems is the time delay between hitting the key and feeling the vibration. I also wonder about the effect on battery life... anyways I would still like to try it!
You might want to do a search because I remember reading about something like this but think it was for the dialer.
I will post here if I find the thread.
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Yea I am pretty certain one of the Iphone dialers is haptic or something...perhaps it's a dailer you have to pay for.
I have a couple kinda sorta solutions..
I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
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I'm at work so I don't have them here.. But I have one .cab that will vibrate when you press the number buttons on your dial screen, and it work's perfectly. And then I have an .exe that make's every screen tap vibrate, and it kinda sorta work's. I've looked for feedback programs for months, and have found nothing. The best thing i've determined which took me forever, is enabling screen tap sounds, and going into the registry and changing the default sound to vibrate instead.. I can also look up how to do this for you when I get home.. But really there's no good solution out there. On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
- Walter
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Tnx a lot walter, and thanks for explaining the difference between haptic and tactile
Posting a guide on changing the registry or giving me a link to the two programs mentioned over would be great.
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On another note this would be almost considered tactile feedback.. Haptic feedback is crazy technology that deals with detecting the electrical current from your touch. That's why current PPC's are awful with this stuff, cause it doesn't have that technology, and most phones that say they do, don't, they just mimic it.
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uh, not quite sure what "haptic" technology you're talking about, but any feedback of mechanical vibration would definitely be considered "haptic feedback". From wikipeida: "Haptic technology refers to technology which interfaces the user via the sense of touch by applying forces, vibrations and/or motions to the user."
Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
This sounds a very interesting idea! Not every program visually responds to touch when operated with finger, so sometimes I was just left wondering did I make the touch? Did the touch go through? Then one or two seconds later (yes my phone is that slow) something happens. This should help if not eliminate that problem.
Here is the cab for the haptic-esque dialpad if anyone was interested
i've noticed that when haptics is on, it tends to vibrate only every other press
such intensive vibration is probably bad for your phone
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Also, to address concerns a little further up the thread: If implemented correctly, there is no perceptible delay between screen contact and vibration feedback. Me and a couple friends whipped up a little test application based on the WM6 SDK's application template, wherein if you tap anywhere in the application window, the vibration motor is toggled for ~50ms (this can be adjusted based on preference, but 50ms was a nice barely perceptible 'thud' with each tap). The feedback is, for all intents and purposes, instantaneous. Also, since the vibrator is only active for 50ms, you'd need to tap 20 times before you've drained the same battery as a 1 second text message alert, or 40 times for 2 seconds, and so on... really, I think the battery drain would be negligible. Anyway, proof of principle for using the vibration motor for haptic feedback is there, and the affect is quite nice, but we never got much further because of a lack of time and programming knowledge. By the way, if anyone has any information on how to hook into touch.dll (which would be the proper way of implementing a system-wide haptic response), I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
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That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
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That sounds pretty perfect. Would be nice if someone finished your project.
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I've installed this but can't find it anywhere. Looked in programs, personal and settings. I've even looked in the windows folder. I have an HTC Raphael.
Any pointers please...?
I was thinking if is possible to make a program that uses the light sensor to answer calls! (when u receive a call just put the phone to your ear and auto answers). I think that would be cool!
The author of Answerkeys Disabler looked at the the usability of the light sensor - his conclusion was that it was not sensitive enough for most applications - and I would expect that to include answering calls. Have a read through that thread for more info.
I think it's a daft idea anyway - lots of situations could cause a call to be accidentally answered.
Well, i think it would be a bad idea (sorry ).
What if you had it in your pocket or jacket? And when your asleep, and you get a call, then what? Your friend can hear you snoore or having a good time, with your gf
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Well, i think it would be a bad idea (sorry ).
What if you had it in your pocket or jacket? And when your asleep, and you get a call, then what? Your friend can hear you snoore or having a good time, with your gf
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you are right
It could check the default state. If it's dark (probably in the pocket) then wait to be light(out of pocket) and than dark again to answer(ear).
But the problem is this will not work if it's night and you are somewhere outside and there's no light for the sensor to notice... Than again the application could have a setting to be active only during daylight and after sunset it would automatically disable itself.
How's that?
IIRC, the light sensor is updated at a fixed interval. So it may not be so accurate to answer a call (eg: you put the phone to your ear but the call is answered after a bit).
Maybe it would be better to use the GSensors to capture the phone movement you made to answer a call.
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Nom nom nom.. Interesting thread. Please do post your good ideas, then all of a sudden someone might invent the killer app
About the light sensor. The thing wont measure anything above 0 if lighting is poor. I mean not only in the middle of the desert at 4 AM when its darker then my coffee, but also in my fluorescently lit hallway, in which I can perfectly read a book. So the thing will always measure 0, you cannot detect changes in that, unfortunately.
Ideea
is it possible to connect the LIGHT sensor with GSensors? (ex: based on the G force produced when you look at the phone to see who's calling an then the light sensor is kicking in, if you want to answer put it at your ear, if not turn the phone face down and it shuts the ringing off!)
Just thinking......
drvdijk said:
Nom nom nom.. Interesting thread. Please do post your good ideas, then all of a sudden someone might invent the killer app
About the light sensor. The thing wont measure anything above 0 if lighting is poor. I mean not only in the middle of the desert at 4 AM when its darker then my coffee, but also in my fluorescently lit hallway, in which I can perfectly read a book. So the thing will always measure 0, you cannot detect changes in that, unfortunately.
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something poped out in my head. When the phone rings the light comes on, is the sensor able to pickit up?
Nope. Tried this in the toilet in which the light was broken. It wouldn't get above 0. Taking a dump without lights is pretty hard by the way..
No other ideas?
Well...I keep my phone in it's luxurious pvc htc slide out pouch, it's pretty dark in there, if the light sensor is able to detect when the phone is in the shade of your ear it must be quite sensitive or else that just would not be possible. So imagine the phone locks automatically when it rings and then unlocks and auto answers when the light sensor detects an increased light level, You would need a few options I can't think of right now, but the normal answer button should still work in case no change is detected. So if your phone was in your pocket or pouch there would be no accidental button presses/call rejections and you would not have to press a button to answer it. = killer app.
Leave your phone face down on your desk, just pick it up to answer a call.
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Well...I keep my phone in it's luxurious pvc htc slide out pouch, it's pretty dark in there, if the light sensor is able to detect when the phone is in the shade of your ear it must be quite sensitive or else that just would not be possible. So imagine the phone locks automatically when it rings and then unlocks and auto answers when the light sensor detects an increased light level, You would need a few options I can't think of right now, but the normal answer button should still work in case no change is detected. So if your phone was in your pocket or pouch there would be no accidental button presses/call rejections and you would not have to press a button to answer it. = killer app.
Leave your phone face down on your desk, just pick it up to answer a call.
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Is that possible right now then? I'd be very interested in the software that disables the screen as soon as it hits your ear.
Can anybody help to make this app?
Give me $50 and I'll make it for you, with the limitations as noted in this thread
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Give me $50 and I'll make it for you, with the limitations as noted in this thread
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I don't mind donating but being so upfront asking for money is a little inappropriate in my mind but if that's what it takes let's see how many people wants it, and donate for your cup of coffee!
Sorry, my point wasn't to ask for money (allthough my post clearly indicates that, I now notice). My point was that I need a very good reason to develop a program of which I know in advance will not work as we both would like to see it work.
So there is no way to make an app that auto answers when you put your phone at your ear (using GSensor or Light sensor)?
P.S. No more ideas? Or close this thread Forever!!!!
How about an application that implements a "proximity sensor" that other phones seem to have? It's kind of annoying to have the touchscreen turned off randomly when you need to punch in some numbers for automated hotlines.
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How about an application that implements a "proximity sensor" that other phones seem to have? It's kind of annoying to have the touchscreen turned off randomly when you need to punch in some numbers for automated hotlines.
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i think is a good idea!
The proximity sensor seems to work. Is there a call screen replacement with a slider to hang up?
whens shes talking lock the screen via the power button and walla
If you're rooted, there are many applications that change the proximity delay in the build properties.
You could try that.
Or ya, manually turn the screen off with the power button.
My mother has owned her X as long as I've had mine (since day 1) and still hangs up on me almost every conversation.
I personally just angle the phone slightly away from my face along with the sensor delay changes I mentioned.
If she is like my wife she doesn't hold the ear piece to her head while she talks (thus the proximity sensor thinks she isn't near the phone), then she hits the screen on her cheek and hangs up on people.
Tell her to learn how to talk on the phone properly.
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Tell her to learn how to talk on the phone properly.
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Yeah, and report back on how sore and stiff you are from sleeping on the couch!
I don't understand why anyone would want to hold a device the size and temperature of a smartphone to their head.
I started using a BT headset when I bought my Treo 700P and have been using one since.
I actually did sleep on the couch last night, different reason.
I ended up teaching her to use the power button to turn off the screen.
kent c said:
I actually did sleep on the couch last night, different reason.
I ended up teaching her to use the power button to turn off the screen.
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Sounds fun.
She no longer hangs up on a call she answers but she constantly mutes calls that she makes now. My phones rings and I'm like hello...hello...
Sell it and get a Razr flip phone. At this point there is no more help.
Let me guess, Blonde?
Be nice kids.
Hi,
Most of the time my phone is on vibrate during office hours but when ever i get a message or a call the vib is so low that i dont notice...
Any solutions
Thanks
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Increase vibration intensity.
settings > sound > vibration intensity.
After i dropped my Note, i realized that the vibration was decreased. The flexible ribbon from the vibration motor was damaged.
I installed a new vibration motor yesterday and all is perfect now.
Maybe same thing happened on yours.
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After i dropped my Note, i realized that the vibration was decreased. The flexible ribbon from the vibration motor was damaged.
I installed a new vibration motor yesterday and all is perfect now.
Maybe same thing happened on yours.
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Wow, DIY stuff ? How did you do that?
There are many tutorials on YouTube about disassembling GNote, in fact is not difficult at all. The vibration motor is just beneath a circuit board and it should take only 15 minutes to change it.
The probability to screw up something is almost null
Got it from another thread. Now this is a sure-warranty-void stuff!
Its not that my phone doesnt vibrates its just im not satisfied with the intensity...
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Hi guys,
i bought my s4 the day one and it works great for now :laugh: but i have a question on the device's vibration. It looks like stronger than s3, so strong that during vibration seems that plastic parts vibrate Is it normal? It looks like an electric razor xD :good:
Also found the Vibra is stronger on the S3
Might have a look to see if the flex/motors are the same and try a swap but not yet
yeh I found when i first got it the startup vibrate (can that be turned off by the way?) was really strong and sounded/felt unpleasant.
Have turned down the haptics and vibrate in settings and now its ok. Except that startup vibrate is still intense.
there is vibration settings, you can choose rhythm (not sure if it's the correct word) and the strength of vibration. just try that
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yeh I found when i first got it the startup vibrate (can that be turned off by the way?) was really strong and sounded/felt unpleasant.
Have turned down the haptics and vibrate in settings and now its ok. Except that startup vibrate is still intense.
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I didi the same, but in general I wanted to ask if it was normal
Markz88 said:
Hi guys,
i bought my s4 the day one and it works great for now :laugh: but i have a question on the device's vibration. It looks like stronger than s3, so strong that during vibration seems that plastic parts vibrate Is it normal? It looks like an electric razor xD :good:
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Hi
It seems to be normal! Unfortunately. Some plastic parts vibrate even if you lay the phone on the table... Just knock on the chassis with your finger an the phone vibrates....
Cheers from Switzerland
Pat
sia1996 said:
Hi
It seems to be normal! Unfortunately. Some plastic parts vibrate even if you lay the phone on the table... Just knock on the chassis with your finger an the phone vibrates....
Cheers from Switzerland
Pat
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I agree with you, on my device happens the same thing, the color of mine is White Frost.
But a friend of mine has bought the phone (color Black Myst) some days ago, his device's vibration isn't strong and knocking on the chassis with a finger doesn't make the phone vibrate.... Should us be worried for ours?
Thank you for your replies.
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I know this topic is oldish but I also have one question.
Does your gs4 vibration make a kind of broken sounding noise? I don't know how to describe the noise but it's like if some part inside is loose.
When I hold the device firmly it vibrates normally. I removed the cover and pinpointed the noise source, seems to be the camera or the sim/SD slot.
It's rally bad when you start the device and it vibrates once, or when you spam press the bell or heart beat vibration preview in settings.
It's also just the first few milliseconds of the vibrate when it's really bad I think.
Do you guys have the same thing?
I got the same problem... Thought it was just me...
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Is there any solution for the crackling sound coming from the phone when it vibrates??