Hello all!
I'm happy to report I've just ordered an HTC Vogue, and I've got two quick questions. I will not have a data plan with this phone, so my first question is this: does the weather screen require a data connection to update? If the data connection is disabled, what appears on that screen?
Secondly, I plan to use the GPS function of the phone with Tomtom. Will I be able to transfer files to the MicroSD card via the USB connection using ActiveSync, or will I need to get an adapter for the MicroSD card and write the files to it from my desktop PC first?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bogus
yes it does.........without data plan, you will be paying more than what you should be paying for just simple weather report.
Why don't you get an Opal or Diamond. I think they both have wifi, and you can update when you are at home or where there is internet connection.
It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.
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It's a bit too late to change my mind at this point. I plan on completely disabling the data transfer on this phone, so I won't be paying anything for that aspect actually. The short version of the story was my old phone died and I was able to get a Vogue for a reasonable price without extending my contract. Unfortunately adding a data plan is not an option for me currently. I don't really need the weather screen, just wondering if it'd function. Guess not. Can it be disabled or not shown? My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card). I'm not sure about the Opal, but an unlocked Diamond will surely cost three times what I paid for my Vogue.
In any case, do you know the answer to the ActiveSync part of my previous question? I did order an 8GB Sandisk with a USB adapter/reader, so if I have to I can transfer files directly from my PC, but it'd be easier to do it directly through an interface to the phone.
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If your tranferring a lot of data, sync the card directly through the PC, it will literally be about 10x faster. But, sync all your music files through the device with WMP. Syncing this way will add all the album covers and info, as long as it's on your PC, for use with an app like S2P.
Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?
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Thanks for the advice. Ironically, music is what will be filling most of the card. When you say sync the music through WMP, how exactly is that done? If there's a faq or sticky on that I'd be glad to hit the books and stop asking questions. Would I need to have the music files in my Windows Media Player library on my PC and somehow synchronize my library on the Touch? I'm really not familiar with the concept of ActiveSync at all.
Edit: Oh, and one last question.. what is S2P?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Search for S2P, you're in for a REAL treat. It's part of A_C's slide suite, S2U2 - Slide to Unlock screen locker, like the iP***e, S2V - Slide to View, nice photo browser, and S2P - Slide to Play, just a real kick ass music player ! Unfortunately, there are some sites out there selling his work, so all development has come to a stop. But, be sure to check them out.
Anyways, ActiveSync (XP) , or Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista), primarily is the tool to sync your PIM data, like calendar and contacts, with Outlook. Once your setup with AS or WMDC, open WMP, and open the sync tab. Make sure you only setup the SD card, otherwise when you open your library, only in WMP on the device, it will default to the device memory, kind of a pain.
I personally setup Auto Playlists, so my lists are always updated, something like, "Recently Added", or "Top Rated." When you setup the device, I suggest setting it to auto sync on connect, then all your ratings and play counts are always updated. Then choose your personal playlists, otherwise all your pics and vids will be converted and synced.
Also, if your like me, organize everything neatly. All my track names, artisit, album names, etc are filled in so searching for music is easy. If you use S2P, you may want to make sure the file names make some sort of sense, because in S2P you browse by file name.
Bottom line, if your PC's library is organized well, it will be transferred that way, making listening to music much more enjoyable.
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My primary reasons for getting this phone were really its hackability and being able to use GPS without a data plan (using Tomtom and a memory card).
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not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!
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not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data
that sounds like it could be right, but im wondering how big of a file the gps maps would be now.
Approximately 847MB for the United States and Canada. I don't plan on going to Mexico anytime soon, so I think that'll do. And while it's not exactly a tiny amount, it's certainly an acceptable size considering I'll be working with an 8GB memory card.
nice, i dunno if you got started on it yet but heres a link i found and from what everyone is saying it works great...let me know how it goes..
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24925
Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
Keep in mind, you will NOT be able to receive calls or text messages while GPS is active. This is a known bug and to date there is not known fix. It is just something we all have to deal with until someone figures out the missing link.
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(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.
Where to begin !
hockeyizlife94 said:
not to thread jack, but i thought that you still would need a data plan for the gps to work? or is the gps antenna still in the phone unlike the wifi antenna?
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bogus83 said:
From what I understand you can use GPS with a navigation application such as Tomtom Navigator, which stores all of its maps on your memory card. It simply uses the GPS to update your present location. At least I certainly hope that's the case. TheChamp or anyone else watching this thread, please feel free to confirm or deny what I've suggested.
Update: This is the thread that gave me that impression. I may try the "offline Google Map" bit too, although I prefer the 3D navigation view. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402069&highlight=GPS+data
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I have the unlimited plan, so personally I pay no attention to this matter. But, the GPS and data connection are two different aspects. The GPS is like Wi-Fi, in the sense that it operates seperately. The GPS antenna will pick up the sat signals, and the only time I've seen a data connection initiated is when the map images were refreshed. So an app like TomTom with predefined maps should work, since it's simply pin-pointing coordinates to the map.
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Awesome, that'll work perfectly. And, I just did a bit of reading on WMDC, looks like it allows data connections to be shared with the mobile device too, which means I could dock my phone in the morning at home and download things like Email and weather, and again when I get to work. Can you save email replies while the phone is "offline" (not connected to data) and have them send when the phone is sync'd again? If so it sounds like the only thing I'd be missing on the phone would be the ability to surf the net or email when I'm not at home or at the office... which is OK with me.
I promise that's my last question for now, at least until I get my phone and start working on it. I wish there was some kind of "rep" system on this board- you've been extremely helpful tonight. Thanks!
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Yeah, this will work for everything! If you use Outlook, then you can sync your emails through WMDC and it will exchange the emails upon sync. The only downside, when you type up an email in the morning, it won't be sent until your next sync, but it works. Also, there are some apps, like Spb Insight (RSS reader), that will refresh content on sync/dock, makes good for refreshing headlines for the day.
Don't worry about the question! There is plenty to learn here, just be sure to ask in the right areas.
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Well, I lied. I do have one more question for TheChamp or someone else "in the know." In a related guide to installing Rev.A/GPS, it mentions that "you cannot take calls while connected to GPS."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=24979
(From the GPS How To section)
Is this true? That sounds like a severe limitation. If I'm going on a four hour road trip (which I frequently do for work) I don't want to have to pick between GPS and being able to speak with people. Ouch.
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At first, it seemed logical, since the GPS is enabled on the radio flash, which does affect the phone connection, but I had to test! I never noticed this problem, and from my test, NO problem woooohooooo !
I had six sats connected, called myself from my land line, recieved the call as usual, hung up, and still had all six sats running, not to mention, while obtaining a fix I was recieving email. So, should be good to go with this!
Confirmed: GPS does work on the Sprint Vogue without a data plan, AND can take/make calls at the same time. Interestingly, the first two times I got a lock it took 10-15 minutes. Every time since it's been anywhere from 1-5 minutes, usually closer to two or three. Can't complain about that! I wrote up my entire process, in case anyone has been following this thread. It wasn't very difficult but did involve a fair amount of research before acting, so if you're going to retrace my steps READ THE DIRECTIONS ON EACH PAGE please, so you don't brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2670205&postcount=7
You don't need the data plan to use GPS, HOWEVER if you want to use mapping software you'll have to use the standalone apps like TomTom that store maps on a data card.
With the data plan you can use apps like Windows Live Search and Google Maps that download "live" maps as you cruise.
Both have their advantages. I especially like Google Maps satellite view.
Yup. I've been using Tomtom Navigator, which stores the maps on my MicroSDHC card. It doesn't have satellite view, but it does 2D/3D which is good enough for me.
Hello everyone,
Lets start a new post, that will help each other to get familiar with new/top/best/must apps for android head units. :good:
I think it would be best if we stick to "TOP-10" per post...or maybe TOP per category (Navigation, music, etc etc...)
and thats because we can easily get dragged to top-30 top-50 , and that will be extremely confusing.. :angel:
Requirements - The apps must be fully/mostly compatible with android head-units.
Doesn't matter if they are free or not.
Thanks!
Tasker
Tasker
what special settings/conditions did you define in tasker?
Might have some good tips for us
I got poweramp installed to replace the stock music app. I used HeadUnit to forward steering wheel next/forward buttons to poweramp. It works great so far. Next, i want to configure poweramp to start playing automatically when the unit boots up. I have tried a few things, but not refine yet.
Lastly, i want to change the steering wheel "Mode" button to cycle between Music and Nav apps only, but have not figured out a way to it in exposedMTC app yet. The factory configuration for "Mode" button is to cycle through Radio, Music, Video, DVD, Nav, Avin, etc... too many of whcih that I don't want to cycle through.
AutoMate seems like it be a good fit
I'm a new guy here on XDA, but it seems like Torque (Pro) is an absolute must have.
Wouldn't it be nice to list all the given apps in the first post?
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Wouldn't it be nice to list all the given apps in the first post?
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I think that's up to the OP to go back and edit the post as more replies come in.
Here goes my list: (or at least the one I´ve installed)
- Waze: Absolute must to avoid traffic
- Spotify
- Torque
What navigation apps are people using? I like Google Maps and Waze but I want an offline option for when data connection is not availabe. I'm thinking of using TomTom Go but is there anything better?
I also plan on using spotify, poweramp and torque.
Waze to beat traffic here in LA
Spotify always on
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For Navigation i like the Navigon App. But under 4.4.4 it is not so good running in My Car Unit. I also search for a Offlinemap Solution. The Lady Talk Not every time.
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I use Poweramp, Torque, and then Sygic for GPS navigation (Here also seems to work alright)
I use always:
Torque with Speedometer
Icoyote in Europe
Google Play music
GPS
I use Gaia GPS for offline offroad TOPO maps since this is installed in my truck.
Does anyone have a good app solution to manage 10-20GB of music that is plugged into the external USB port on a 1TB portable HD?
I can get a file manager to see the music files / playlists, but I can't get a music program to see the music/playlist files so that I can easily listen to the music. Any advice?
I use Folder Player Pro for my music, I have a folder for each artist with sub folders for albums, lacks media graphics if you like that sort of distraction whilst driving but functionally great.
For navigation I like iGO Primo because I can save locations from Google Earth to Dropbox and my HU syncs with these as custom POIs in iGO Primo using Dropsync, you can also install custom skins on iGO Primo for increased functionality.
Also uses offline maps
I know some people really like PowerAmp, but I found that I like MediaMonkey for music better. I have about 30GB on the SD Card and it works great. Has good widget to put on the screen as well. In MediaMonkey you can go in the settings and tell it exactly what folders and path's to search for music and it will search and index all the files.
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I know some people really like PowerAmp, but I found that I like MediaMonkey for music better. I have about 30GB on the SD Card and it works great. Has good widget to put on the screen as well. In MediaMonkey you can go in the settings and tell it exactly what folders and path's to search for music and it will search and index all the files.
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poweramp does all that tasks
For offline GPS navigation, HERE maps from Nokia works fine ! You can download maps by country or part of country if you want. Then you switch to "offline" navigation and it uses only stored maps. He got traffic info but i prefer Waze when online is up
es file explorer to move files is a fine tool too.
I wanted to do the exact same thing on my Joying RK3188 unit, Highlander version. After much trial and error found out that there is a bug in XposedMTC that prevents it from switching to Navi if video is not set right (crashes after 2-3 swaps). So I disabled all options in XposedMTC, so clicking on Mode hard button will start the music app (Poweramp in my case). I used the hard Navi button to switch to Navigation and "Phone Down" button for "Back Screen" option. This combo seems to be working quite well over the last week or so I have been using. Another key thing is that when you change any option in XposedMTC, close this and start XposedInstaller > Framework > Install. This will require a device reboot and the settings seem to reflect in mine only after this is done.
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I got poweramp installed to replace the stock music app. I used HeadUnit to forward steering wheel next/forward buttons to poweramp. It works great so far. Next, i want to configure poweramp to start playing automatically when the unit boots up. I have tried a few things, but not refine yet.
Lastly, i want to change the steering wheel "Mode" button to cycle between Music and Nav apps only, but have not figured out a way to it in exposedMTC app yet. The factory configuration for "Mode" button is to cycle through Radio, Music, Video, DVD, Nav, Avin, etc... too many of whcih that I don't want to cycle through.
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The best App Ever is Auto dashdroid for Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nezdroid.cardashdroid
pretty new to using android wear , using lolipop on my phone and the watch
1. how do i change google now travel card ( car etc) to km from miles , miles is useless to me as i use km etc where i live?
2. how do i check the memory left on my wear watch ?
3. is there any wear apps which allow you to control volume and third party music players such as poweramp?
4. any way to store files on the watch eg. like a wirless storage device ?
thanks for the help , loving android wear so far ,if there is a repeat thread i apologise
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pretty new to using android wear , using lolipop on my phone and the watch
1. how do i change google now travel card ( car etc) to km from miles , miles is useless to me as i use km etc where i live?
2. how do i check the memory left on my wear watch ?
3. is there any wear apps which allow you to control volume and third party music players such as poweramp?
4. any way to store files on the watch eg. like a wirless storage device ?
thanks for the help , loving android wear so far ,if there is a repeat thread i apologise
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1. I believe it's somewhere in the phone's settings but I'm not quite sure about that
2. Android Wear app, go to the watch's preferences and there you can see the available and max storage
3. Yes, the default one gets the job done, using it myself with PowerAmp
4. Yes, but you need to download apps from the Google Play Store