Hi!
I wana flash WM6 on my unbranded Artemis.
Already installed USPL and downloaded a ROM, wich is a rar file "ARTE_WWE_WM6.rar" containing "OS.nb"
So what to do with that OS.nb?
I think I will need a Utility to flash that ROM to my device right?
Where to get it?
Thanks!
I propably need a ROM which includes a Utility?
I do not even know which WM6 ROMs there are.
Which one would you recommend?
alphanimal said:
I propably need a ROM which includes a Utility?
I do not even know which WM6 ROMs there are.
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I suggest you switch from the upgrading section to the Mobile 6 section of this site. There is a lot more info about WM6.
Basically (I don't intend to be complete) there are three flavours: Bepe's ROM, the PDAVIET Black and Blue ROM and, since a few days, a ROM that comes close (or is?) the HTC ROM. They are all different so you have to decide which one you like the most. They all have popular threads with lots of enthousiast users, more or less. Happy reading!
Okay I now got the PV Black&Blue v3 - which is great for me!! (though I dont know the others)
but the HTC Home Today Plugin takes so much space
If there were just the clock ...
I´ve been following with interest the porting of touchflo interface to non-Elf (Touch) devices.
There have been lots of requests for developing a cab with files n settings for such an interface. It has been suceesfully ported to custom ROMs for Artemis, wizard...., but developers say that there is no way to build just a cab.
not being a developer, i would like to know the rationale behind "cab is no possible", as i can not undestand why, if touch flow can be ccoked to a ROM, it can not be made into a cab. Surely there is an explanation.
(i ask this question because i´d rather keep the stock ROM until warranty period is over, but i want to use my device (Artemis) as much as possible without reverting to stylus)
The Problem is that the Touch.dll must be replaced with the one from HTC Touch... this is not possible.
Only before cooking the Rom you are able to replace System DLLs
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hope this helps
So the solution would be to make an installation rotine that unloads touch dll from memory, ,overwrites it with the replacement "flo" one, and then reload touch dll.
is that a workable solution under MsMobile platform?
Sorry if i´m proposing a nonsense, as i´m no programmer at all (just "hello world" stuff)
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
damac said:
I'm not one of the ROM cookers here but I think the system dlls that need replacing cannot be deleted because they are in ROM and therefore, the device needs to be flashed to change behaviour.
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or just the cab being reinstalled after every hard reset?
The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device. Another reason is that the dll can not be changed after flashing the rom, has it is protected by the OS (not even using Total Commander...).
I try to overwrite Touch.dll via some program to replace the original Touch.dll.
After replace it, Touch-screen is no respond to any touch on the screen but Hardware button still working ,then I restore my device.
In my idea, I think Touch.dll is device specific and this file take control all of touch-screen. So Touch.dll cannot be replace by conventional method.
We have to rewrite Touch-Flo program to hook on another dll, e.g. Touch-Flo.dll. (This is just my theory) But I don't know "How to do it ?".
Does anyone have idea about it ?
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The touch.dll is different from device to device... so u'll have to have a "touch" dll that fits your device.
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Well, until Tytn II(Kaiser) is released, the only touch-flo enabled phone that can be bought off the shelf is HTC Touch.
So all cooked ROMs for Artemis, Wizard.....that include touchflo, must include touchflo dlls extracted from HTC Touch ROM.
Then, my understanding is that, as these touch-flo ROM do actually run on devices other than HTC Touch, the dll´s needed must be not so "device specific" but (more or less) generic for QVGA devices without graphics processor (or at least for OMAP 200 devices).
maybe its not only touch dll, but also other files which have to be replaced by files from HTC Touch.
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
c_shekhar said:
Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
sirgawain123 said:
There a number of ROMs that include TouchFlo in Prophet, Artemis n Wizard xda-dev forums.
i dont know how to extract specific files from a ROM file, nor which files are flo-related files, and have to be extracted.
Surely the cookers of those ROMs can advise and even provide the Flo files.
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look in the wizard WM6 forum, there are several kitchen roms and links to OEM packs with all the touch stuf thats needed.
I agree ,
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
Marcos200 said:
i dont understand why is not possible to make one application just to touchflo,
let´s take some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321242
this stops, but i test and works, only whid some bugs, and is not reali a touchflo
http://www.pocketcm.com/index.php
this one makes touchflo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325223&highlight=iphone+media+player
this one is touchflo application
icontacts is a touchflo application
so...i dont understand why is not possible to make a touchflo cab
i have all this aplications in a s200 wm5!
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touchflo requires Touch.dll, and Touch.dll is not an application. Itz part of the OS which is device dependent. Unless someone writes a fully working touchflo cube, managed to remove the current touch.dll with his own dll, then it is portable from device to device.
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Has any body managed to extract the touchflo files from HTC touch or TytnII??? If yes then kindly post them here. Maybe we can try to put it in other models like Hima..
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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funny thread in the sense some pple is asking the same again and again.
I would summarize state of art as follows:
-Some ROMs with Touch flo have been developed by forum members for devices other than HTC Touch.
-Touch flo files are available for those who want to cook their own ROM, at least for OMAP devices.
- As today,Touch flo files can not be installed in a device over an existing ROM because installation can not overwrite certain files as they are in use by the system.
Workaround (Yet To be made)would be an installation routine that unloads files to be replaced, and loads touchflo ones. This routine should be performed after every reset, as resets reloads the files from original ROM.
Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
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Here are a bunch of cabs to give you the look of the Touch but these won't give you the finger scroll feature.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311225
I personnally don't care for the eye candy on my wizard, but like the touch driver that lets me finger scroll. The OEM packs I've seen bundle this driver with the today plug-in, but there's just a few files specific to the touch driver that can be separated out from the today plug-in.
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to get fingerscrolling you'll only need the touch.dll not othere file or regestry setting but somehow it doesn't seem to work for all devices. I don't know why... if it just can't work or no one figured it out yet?
The_hesham said:
Hi C_shekhar
Is this can help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321844
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No it does not help.....
Is there any Hermes ROM cooked with TocuhFlo?
Gullum , i need help, please.
Gullum,
thnks for the very profecional good work, in all app, roms, foruns, etc.
one question,
i dont need flash my prophet (S200 pt), but i use all the finger friendly applications that we have in xda.
i looveeee the finger scroll applications.
but i have now 1.5 years waranty, and i dont need flash.
just the scrolling feature, the touch.dll, like you say, but i dont now how i need to just install that in my wm5 rom in portuguese.
is there a solution?? a cab, or just put oem files and replace the ones that i have. i use the touchnav application, but i need more, also use the very best iContact v3, but i need finguer scroll in all applications, like the touch
Thanks in advance,
Hello
I had the occasion to watch a video showing the new Touchflo running on a Touch HD (the one with built-in calendar and new contacts screens).
Is this version available for download and install ?
Sorry if I asked a stupid question, I looked for the information but did not find anything about that
Nicolas
You can just flash a rom, which contains this new version. Look in the ROM development forum in order to get more information.
Thanks for the input
So I guess there is no "standalone" installation for this TF3D version, so I can just replace the current one without flashing ?
That would be the ideal for those who prefer the new 1.56 official rom! (including me)
I find the new rom perfect for my needs but i would also like to use the new manilla!
what's the problem flashing a custom-rom?
iliaspopegr said:
That would be the ideal for those who prefer the new 1.56 official rom! (including me)
I find the new rom perfect for my needs but i would also like to use the new manilla!
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Duttys Xtreme v3 ROM is both of those things.
Has the Touch HD hardware ever changed? IOW, would a recent purchase be the exact same hardware as when they first came out with updates only being in soft/firmware?
AFAICT, the THD comes with TouchFlo3D 2.1, but there are now 2.5 and even 2.6 versions kicking around that offer good reasons to want to upgrade. But how?
I see new ROMS that include later versions, but is it necessary to install an entirely new ROM? What does TF3D include? There's manilla.exe, but are there any other actual files? Would it not be possible to simply install a later version of manilla without having to change everything else?
Will 2.5 and 2.6 run on WM6(.1) or do they require 6.5?
Just trying to get a handle on potential upgrades (once I actually get hold of a THD - still looking).
UKenGB said:
Has the Touch HD hardware ever changed? IOW, would a recent purchase be the exact same hardware as when they first came out with updates only being in soft/firmware?
AFAICT, the THD comes with TouchFlo3D 2.1, but there are now 2.5 and even 2.6 versions kicking around that offer good reasons to want to upgrade. But how?
I see new ROMS that include later versions, but is it necessary to install an entirely new ROM? What does TF3D include? There's manilla.exe, but are there any other actual files? Would it not be possible to simply install a later version of manilla without having to change everything else?
Will 2.5 and 2.6 run on WM6(.1) or do they require 6.5?
Just trying to get a handle on potential upgrades (once I actually get hold of a THD - still looking).
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There would be no hardware changes between first HD released and latest one. Only difference would be rom installed on device which would be an upgrade incorporating a few fixes. This would still be wm6.1.
Wm6.5 is only available through a cooked rom.
To upgrade to a new manila, you will need to flash a rom which has this available (generally a cooked rom). Only rom that I know of which has manila 2.5 on wm6.1 is Miri's. But it does appear to have some limitations due to incompatibilities between wm6.1 and manila 2.5.
Latest manila's are more touch friendly and also have landscape capabilities whereas earlier version did not.
Thanks for that, but why would you HAVE to install a new ROM just to update TouchFlo3D? If it IS just manilla.exe, then why not simply install that new file? OK, I guess there's a bit more to it, but why an entirely new ROM?
Manila isn't only manila.exe file: the UI has more then 1000 files... and it's stable if you flash ROMs.
D'rath
PS: Manila 2.5/6 is a beta version quite slow and sometime freeze (I tried Miri ROM)
OK, sounds reasonable. But how can 2.5 still be beta if there's 2.6?
I am trying to make my taskbar/clock etc transparent but have had no success so far. I have a TP2 with winmo 6.5. Does anyone know how I find out what version manilla I have (IDK what manilla is tbh) and what version Touch Flo, also, do I have sense? and if so, what version sense I have?
It sounds noobish I know but I'm really stuck here, thanks for your help.
Manila Version
Settings->System->Device Information->Software Information it should tell you the manila version in there...
is it my rom version? 1.186.161.0 (67102) WWE. if so, which is the important part?
Manila Version
Here is a screen shot.... should say something like manila version 2.1.1920...
hmm, I don't have a software information page anywhere, just device info, hardware, identity and call duration.
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hmm, I don't have a software information page anywhere, just device info, hardware, identity and call duration.
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The same problem here. Mine is a TP2 WWE with Stock 6.5 ROM. I dont have the software information page as you do. Gave up looking for this info
Grimlocc said:
I am trying to make my taskbar/clock etc transparent but have had no success so far. I have a TP2 with winmo 6.5. Does anyone know how I find out what version manilla I have (IDK what manilla is tbh) and what version Touch Flo, also, do I have sense? and if so, what version sense I have?
It sounds noobish I know but I'm really stuck here, thanks for your help.
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did you flash a cooked rom or are you using a stock one?
in the manila homescreen, scroll to settings, scroll down to about phone and click, click software infomation, and theres your manila version.
Mine doesn't show either and it's a Portuguese stock ROM...
OK...I think I've found how to locate the version of Manilla. It's in the registry. So find a registry editor for your phone. I CANNOT stress the importance of NOT CHANGING ANYTHING unless you know what you're doing.
That said, the following registry key contains the Manila Version:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Version
IE mine is 2.1.19213017.1