Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Its just when Free sharing become business donation to others.
Ciao Arc/s
My Works: The Arctic Rom (Discontinued)
Swapper: Swapper [Root Users] Reduce Lag and Save Ram
Moving to Razr and SGN.
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Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Ciao Arc/s
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Even though I don't know much about your work or your support for the Arc / Arc S, it's sad to see guys leaving thanks to a bunch of morons that's envy on other guys quality work. Yes, your SWAP application is joy and quality (at the same time) that has saved me a lot of times when struggling to make ICS worth my time, and to avoid making this too fanboyish - I wish u all luck with whatever you now are going to do!
Thanks for your support, Patambiz! And a lot of greetings (hopefully) from the Arc community.
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Hi guys...
We all saw what Sony policy to release new flagship device every six months did for development - basically - it screwed us.
Our main developers spread on XDA and future development for many devices could be very slow...
Also, we saw what happened with Xperia Z3 development, Z3 is great device but without best developers, themers or supporters there won't be custom ROMs, themes or MODs designed for it.
I talked to @niaboc79 and @serajr and offered some help.
My plan is to open on bounty thread, not for root, not for ROMs, themes or anything specifically...but to keep those two wizards in our team.
That way we'll get all the things I mentioned above.
The idea is to raise money or to be precise, donate money to Niaboc paypal account and support them.
That money will be for next Xperia devices, most likely called Xperia Z4. (two devices, one for Niaboc and one for Serajr).
This way we could be 100% sure we'll have best Xperia developers for the future.
If someone thinks we are doing a favor to them - think again.
ROM developing and MODs developing (Xposed modules) developing aren't easy and takes a lot of free time and we should be thankful and happy to have opportunity to keep those guys near.
XDA has changed, we aren't team anymore and that's not good...
But I believe we still have great guys here who knows what we are getting with this.
It's absolutely not important would you donate 1$ or 100$, what's important is your support.
We have hundreds, maybe even thousands of Xperia users who are planning to upgrade their device to Z4 and if we all support this idea and donate few bucks - we'll achieve our goal.
As I said, donation account will be Niaboc paypal account.
And I'm asking him to keep tracks about donations and post them here.
Thank you all for support!
I'm 100% sure we can do this and I'm 100% sure we are doing great thing.
If you are using Xperia Xposed by Serajr or eXistenZ or Xperia (no matter which one) you'll know I'm right
We all know who is Niaboc and who is Serajr, if you have any questions or what to ask them something (thread related) - I'm sure they'll response quickly.
@niaboc79 and @serajr
Could you please tell few words and confirm you are accepting this.
Thank you all.... And long live Xperia
We'll need all the resources in the future, among everything else - rooting method/exploit holes will be extremely hard to find and we need every help we can find.
I'll donate 40$ tomorrow, I hope there'll be many of us who'll join me...
Please, send your donations to Paypay account:
[email protected]
We'll keep tracks here, not to show who donate more but to say thank you to all who helped...
DONATIONS
@funky0308 - 30$
@lagania - 1$
TOTAL:
= 31$
You don't know who those two guys are?
Well, you are probably new Xperia users - so welcome to Xperia family.
Click on this @niaboc79 or watch this video (it's not latest but you'll get the picture who is this magician)
Sony Xperia Z3 ROM On Sony Xperia Z2 - eXistenz R…: http://youtu.be/G1JAzjQ0yM0
Same goes for @serajr
Watch this video and you'll understand why we are supporting this guy as well.
Serajr Xperia Xposed - Z3 Home "Hide Apps Drawer"…: http://youtu.be/SwtWSVOu0vc
This is just one of millions functions in this fantastic Xposed module.
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
Totally agree!
It's just an honor for me to be remembered! Thank you so much buddy... you're amazing!
As I told you before and now again I confirm... whatever the outcome, all of you will have my full support, as I have always done in recent years.
And if xposed do not reach lollipop, things will be put into practice with oldschool modding method... smali editing!!
Long live Xperia development!
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I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
We are a community, that means that we must help others.
Serajr and me are working hard to bring you as much as we can but we need devices to work on.
The Xperia users doesn't have many developpers because Sony phones aren't as popular as Samsung or HTC.
I am motivated to keep supporting you so if all users are giving us even a few bucks we will be able to buy devices and work for you
Thanks
Cheers
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
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Thx, that means alot to me.
Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
Envious_Data said:
True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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In which case bring [NUT] he is someone who can create recoveries for locked bootloader
Im mostly trying to get on the Z4 development bandwagon because i want to learn and contribute, Even though it isnt what your looking for it still helps those who you may not, Xperias always have strong LB support anyways, Xperia S and Z2 are examples i know very well and Xperia S didnt have any of this bounty stuff, it came along with time
Where doomlord usualy provides the first recovery and root methods ill try to since he is so busy and ive found life is hard when no one is there to do the work you cant do.
As for anything else with Z4 ill try to port multi-rom if Myself5 or Oliver wants to help however im not a dev nor a great dev but itll happen with time and patience
Also need i remind you that Xperia Z4 will most likely be releasing with Lollipop so even LB stuff will be hard, you would have to hotboot a recovery just to flash supersu and im not even sure if that can be done on locked bootloader and we definatly do need somone who can find and exploit if this is the case
We may be able to use adb to root but ill have to see on how adb acts in the situations i put it in.
I know you know of my capabilities with LB once i have recovery access @funky0308
Edit- if anyone @[NUT] is important for LB support
Grt initiation @funky0308. I see this is a good opportunity to bring devs to z4.. I have to agree on @Envious_Data on one thing.. Devs like NUT, Olivier, Myself5 are important to be on the list coz first thing, any user on xda will be needing root(lb), a recovery for lb, and custom roms for ub(cm/aosp) and ofc stock based roms.. I am not against niaboc or serajr.. They are grt devs n i am a big fan of their work.. I'm just trying to expand the list since we would be needing more devs in Z4.. I wish i could be any help in donating, but i am still a student. But atleast i hope we can contribute as a community and preserve good devs on xperia.. I remember a lot of good devs moving to sammy/htc.. One such example was letama.. You all remember him.. I suggest adding a few more devs like the ones i mentioned above to the list so that we can improve development.. Again, its just my opinion.. Peace..
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
Just check all bounties we had - we were struggling to raise money for two devices (and we failed, Niaboc had to add 60-70% to buy Z2)
I would like to have 10 000$ and to be able to buy device for everyone.
If we expand this list to ten names we won't do anything.
Who wants to support this - support, who don't want - just don't...
We have many great devs and contributors, it's impossible to add them all.
I know who is NUT, I know who is doom but if we want to be fair - we'll need someone as @jcase to find exploit in firmware.
For now, Z4 isn't even announced, so please, if you want to support our devs - support them.
It's ridiculous to talk about firmware which isn't announced yet...
We don't know what should we expect...and that's not subject of this thread.
I don't want to buy anything i just want to support guys who gave so much in last few years.
Even if they don't do a single thing on a next Xperia I still want to say tnx.
That's the purpose of this thread not to buy developer who will work 8 hour shift for us.
I said that in OP, this isn't root bounty, it's not ROM developing bounty or anything similar.
It's thread where we can show our appreciation to guys who work on Xperia devices and did amazing things...
So please, please, please....stop doing this - donate few bucks if you can...
This isn't true XDA spirit guys, we shouldn't buy developers, this isn't market..
We are supporting our developers no matter what, we are helping them to buy new device and we are trying to keep them near us.
That way they'll develop and we'll all have something from that.
Thanks
funky0308 said:
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
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Thanks
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
Envious_Data said:
Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Mate, please tell me, or show me when doom find exploit and rooted LB Xperia.
Do same for NUT please.
NUT is great guy but he was using phils and dooms work.
He did awesome things, just like doom but jcase did what you are talking about, not doom, nor NUT.
We'll see what will happen.
This is thanks thread to guys who did fantastic job.
Number of tnx on latest ROM by Niaboc and lateat Xposed module by Serajr said everything.
We will need many developers here, that's true.
So donate 40-50$ and lets expand this list.
I will donate today and I'm perfectly fine with list expand but lets show we are really on this.
When this bounty shows 500-600$ we can talk further...
It's easy to write names but I haven't seen a single dollar to confirm your statement.
We need devs...yes, we need them, show that, don't only write names.
funky0308 said:
We'll see what will happen.
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Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
Envious_Data said:
Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
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As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
funky0308 said:
As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
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This may be planning way far ahead but im going to be buying a new device in a year and a half and i was thinking of creating a bounty list to atleast get [NUT] just because its not easy at all making recoveries for LB
Good idea @funky0308.. We should expand the list after we get more donations.. I agree wit u.. :thumbup: