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So last Friday I was attempting to install Galaxy S status bar on my N1, but in the process of trying to do too much I Bricked my phone. Mind you, Im not a complete noob to the process. I've rooted mytouch, G1, and even tinkered with my Shadow, so I'm pretty familiar with the processes, but this time I finally F'd up and I knew it. Phone just flashed orange and green light top right corner. Did my research and saw other posts w/similar problems but all battery related, but I still tried their solutions to no avail. The only thing to do other than to use it as paper weight was to try my warranty, which all of us know is void after unlocking. So I Called HTC warranty hotline and explained my problem without telling them of the custom rom I installed and they gave me two options; replace w/refurb or fix mine, mine is engraved so replacement out of question. So they emailed me a overnight shipping label, I sent it to them on Monday, they received it on Tuesday, Fixed it on Thursday, and I got it back on Friday, good as new. So basically to all who dare to root and mod your phones and Brick it in the process. Try your warranty. Worse they can say is no. In my case they fixed it.
They fixed mine as well and even re-locked the bootloader. Mind you, I ended up rooting it again as soon as I got it back. HTC rocks!
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Now that's service I'm impressed. Frankly I'm impressed with Android and the community. Google knows exactly what people are doing and they go just a step shy of condoning it and now to hear the HTC does this sort of thing knowing fully well that there's a 99% chance it's bricked cause someone was nerding out it
Having come over from a 3GS just about a month ago I am really impressed with Android. The only thing now is a solid hardware platform. I love my Nexus One but there are things HTC could have done better, mainly screen related, and Motorola is etched in my brain as making the most annoying phones in history. But aside from that, I think it's Android for life for me
Are you sure your bricking related to flashing a themed bar?
I thought that bricking your phone was only possible through some low-level processes such as flashing a radio.
Either way, glad they fixed your problems.
Yea. Pretty sure I bricked it. Trying to flash the Galaxy status bar didn't brick it, but the series of mis-steps that followed did. But I got it back, re-unlocked it and happy as can be. Thanx HTC.
Hi, did HTC ask you for an reeipt or proof of warranty? I am asking cause i purchased my nexus from ebay(no receipt or warranty whatsoever) and i've read in other threads that HTC did not ask for these papers considering that the phone is less than 1 yr old.
thanks.
makes me wonder why anyone would want to root without unlocking the bootloader
deeren said:
Hi, did HTC ask you for an reeipt or proof of warranty? I am asking cause i purchased my nexus from ebay(no receipt or warranty whatsoever) and i've read in other threads that HTC did not ask for these papers considering that the phone is less than 1 yr old.
thanks.
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Nope. I bought mine off ebay as well and I even said that on the phone but the lady from HTC said that was fine. They fixed my phone no problem
I am going to attempt a replacement on mine. Except I have the unfortunate issue of the void sticker missing from the screw on the back. I'm going to send it in anyway, since I have a dust under the screen issue. Perhaps they will be nice and replace it anyway. If not, well I guess it will cost me $28 to get it back. Or maybe not that much to have them fix it..
This might come off as me preaching here, but I hope I don't come across as high-handed...
If you have a hardware button sequence locked Vibrant you really need to think long and hard about whether or not you should be messing with custom firmwares, ESPECIALLY NOW.
The last few leaked firmwares (JI2, JI4, JI5) are ALL RUNNING A NEW KERNEL. One that is not compatible with JFD derived builds. Furthermore these great new custom kernels provided by our awesome dev's (Voodoo, JAC, Kingclick, etc...) are not compatible with these new leaked builds. So the likelihood of you ending up staring at a really scary screen on your phone is skyrocketing, unless you have reliable methods to deal with that scary screen.
I've ran across numerous posts here today, with all the fervor over the JI5 Kies leak, where people have Clockwork Recovered themselves into a nightmare because they simply didn't understand these points. Even simpler MOD's (like a few posts I found today where people were installing the JFD version of the MobileAP mod on JIx builds and screwing their phones up) can lead to grief if you don't do your homework.
If you cannot reliably get into recovery *AND* download mode, please please be sure you understand the risks your taking if you fail to be careful and read the information that is already here. Granted, I know few people can keep up with some of us and our ability to soak up info like a sponge. Still there is a process of risk assessment YOU MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR when you realize you are doing things that you probably shouldn't be.
This doesn't mean I won't continue trying to be helpful. I just want to make it clear to some of you that you really need to think things through more thoroughly before you let your excitement drive you into a corner.
I vote for the following statement to be made a sticky in this and the Q&A Forum...
"If you are updating firmware on a phone, and you've already hacked this and that, tweaked this and that, modified this and that...whatever the case may be you should be prepared to have to Odin your way back to stock.
If you are not prepared to Odin your way back to stock (don't know how, have a hardware button locked phone, etc...) then you should really be asking yourself whether or not you should be customizing your phone to the degree that you are.
It's just about risk assessment. Most risks are known, but some are not. Furthermore there can be bad synergies between multiple tweaks, mods, and/or hacks that no one can easily predict ahead of time. So it's not about anyone trying to be elitist. The best way to help people is to help them avoid making critical mistakes."
actually if u have a hardware locked phone, what you SHOULD do is call tmobile right now and complain that ur phone is defective and they'll send u a new one... keep doing this till u get a working phone, i did and i now have a phone that isn't HL'ed... only took one try
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actually if u have a hardware locked phone, what you SHOULD do is call tmobile right now and complain that ur phone is defective and they'll send u a new one... keep doing this till u get a working phone, i did and i now have a phone that isn't HL'ed... only took one try
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Indeed!!!
The hardware locked Galaxy S thing appears to be a bootloader bug affecting more than just our Vibrants (some other batches of Galaxy S phones are affected) rather than a real hardware issue, so T-Mobile should be able to get these fixed readily. Not like we should care about T-Mobile here, but what this means also is that T-Mobile shouldn't be making a huge deal about swapping these out either.
I'd encourage everyone with a button-sequence screwed Vibrant to simply go to T-Mobile and get it replaced.
Admittedly, I was one of those fools who installed the wrong MobileAp and also tried to go back to a nandroid that didn't work (different kernel - or so I have learned.) Bricked the phone. But I wasn't hardware locked so I was able to get everything back thanks to some really helpful people here on the forum.
I agree that all hardware locked phones should be returned. If mine were locked then I'd still be staring at a dead phone.
I would like to add that I am new to the android thing. But, I am not a software noob (i did software testing for a living). The thing is that I am sometimes impulsive and that leads to mistakes. Thankfully, I have a way to get out of the mistakes (ODIN and non-hardware locked phone.) I always know the risk I am taking and take full responsibility for anything I screw up.
How can I tell if I have a hardware-locked phone, without attempting to flash a ROM, I mean?
Thanks
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i have a hardware locked phone that i unlocked and have a custom recovery on. I have only accessed the recovery through rom manger. is there any other way to access it with hardware locked? If so can someone post details. it will be good to know when i mess up my phone and it dosent boot preventing me from accessing rom manager to get to the recovery
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you didn't unlock the hardware. You just simply rooted your phone. Hardware lock can not be unlocked and that's what this thread is trying to address. I have tried exchanging my phone from tmo once and the exchange phone they sent me still had the same problem, so i haven't bother with it. I wonder if i can just walk into a store and do an exchange since i got my phone from tmo online. Anyways, if you have a hardware locked phone, stick with roms that will flash through clockworks. That is the safest way, but keep in mind that there is still a slight chance of failure.
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How can I tell if I have a hardware-locked phone, without attempting to flash a ROM, I mean?
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Never mind; I figured it out.
Man, I'm glad I read your post on hardware-locked problems. I didn't even realise this was a problem until after I dicked around with my phone a bunch, and then ended up reflashing with odin back to stock. I could have messed up big time.
My problem is that I can't replace my phone at all. I purchased a T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant online, brand new, unopened and locked for use here in Canada on the Wind Mobile network.
After hearing about this defective hardware I called T-Mobile, they said I have no warranty with them since it wasn't a T-mobile store purchase. Alright I guess. So they give me the number to Samsung USA,USA transfers me to Canada, I get transferred back again and this is what I'm stuck with.
My new phone has NO warranty, in either country. Both refuse to honour any sort of warranty, and refer to the other for support. I didn't think I'd get this sort of run around from Samsung.
USA says that because I live in Canada, I voided the warranty.,
Canada says that because it's a USA device, and I didn't purchase an international warranty, they won't touch it.
I'll just have to be careful what I install on my phone, and avoid Samsung products in the future.
Thanks for the warning
I wouldn't say your lack of warranty is any surprise. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, phone warranty is normally tied to the carrier, which means if you're not an active customer using the phone on the account that it was first activated on, you will have no warranty. Nothing special about Samsung here, all brands are the same.
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Man, I'm glad I read your post on hardware-locked problems. I didn't even realise this was a problem until after I dicked around with my phone a bunch, and then ended up reflashing with odin back to stock. I could have messed up big time.
My problem is that I can't replace my phone at all. I purchased a T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant online, brand new, unopened and locked for use here in Canada on the Wind Mobile network.
After hearing about this defective hardware I called T-Mobile, they said I have no warranty with them since it wasn't a T-mobile store purchase. Alright I guess. So they give me the number to Samsung USA,USA transfers me to Canada, I get transferred back again and this is what I'm stuck with.
My new phone has NO warranty, in either country. Both refuse to honour any sort of warranty, and refer to the other for support. I didn't think I'd get this sort of run around from Samsung.
USA says that because I live in Canada, I voided the warranty.,
Canada says that because it's a USA device, and I didn't purchase an international warranty, they won't touch it.
I'll just have to be careful what I install on my phone, and avoid Samsung products in the future.
Thanks for the warning
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Other companies will do the same thing. Warranties are country specific, no?
I don't know how it works with mobile phones, but whenever I've purchased computer parts, the country of origin has never been a problem. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Still have gripes about GPS, and lack of 2.2 though.
Don't misunderstand me though, I love this phone. Just surprised about the hardware issues.
I called Samsung today after tmobile rep gave me a number for warranty. After complaining and speaking to a supervisor, they said i could send it in and they would "fix" it. This is what they sent in the email.
Product Symptoms : Technical Inquiry/Internal Menu/Software Reflash - FOC/No fee. The Samsung Rep said a technician would look at it.
I got a shipping label and everything.
I have one question. How should i go about reflashing to stock? can i just factory reset + remove superusers. please help.
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I don't know how it works with mobile phones, but whenever I've purchased computer parts, the country of origin has never been a problem. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Still have gripes about GPS, and lack of 2.2 though.
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PC parts aren't as tightly controlled as mobile phones. That's the difference.
GPS and Froyo should be coming soon. I doubt if Samsung would let their best mobile phones fall behind by much. From the leaked firmwares popping up, it shows they're working on it.
Hi all,
I just got off the phone with Google support... I phoned them because my nexus definitely has heat issues when I fire up need for speed it gets like a furnace...
When I was on the phone though they told me the warranty was void as it had been rooted (<3 TB)... how can they tell?
Does this mean my nexus is permanently ear marked?
Thanks.
Did they ask you to read out any info from the about screen?
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Did they ask you to read out any info from the about screen?
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Serial number...
But surely they can't just remote onto device like that. probably in the T&C. FML.
dont know mate was it new when u got it?
If not just tell them nope i dont know what your talking about, root wtf is root???
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dont know mate was it new when u got it?
If not just tell them nope i dont know what your talking about, root wtf is root???
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Yeah brand new. Straight from Gplay.
That's exactly what I did... still wouldn't process repair or anything sent me Samsung contact details for out of warranty repair. :S
Keep calling mate say they are wrong, keep at it mate just say i want to talk to a manager bla bla, keep pushing them
That's really strange. If they don't budge then contact Samsung directly using the contact info in the warranty that shipped with the phone for a warranty repair or replacement.
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Yeah brand new. Straight from Gplay.
That's exactly what I did... still wouldn't process repair or anything sent me Samsung contact details for out of warranty repair. :S
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I'm new to all this stuff so PLEASE do not do anything based on my flimsy idea, ... just thought it might help send you down a different thought/investigative path.
I installed a toolkit that had a re-lock and un-root option thinking that if I ever got into a similar warranty situation, I would just kinda go "backwards in time" and after using TWRP to backup my tablet, do a full factory wipe, and re-lock then un-root (or whichever comes first) THEN report the problem.:fingers-crossed:
You may have let the cat out of the bag by calling first though
It seems you need to find out how they know,erase the evidence,re-lock un-root and then as juDGEY2k10 says- DENY DENY DENY- you know, like "Dexter" does:laugh: .
But wada I know. Keep us posted on your progress.
Im no expert but I don't see how they can tell unless when you get new apps or update apps from the play store they pulling information from the units. Hopefully they arent doing that.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}
I have never seen root voiding warranty of a nexus device before, even though it says so.
I've noticed their bug report tool, built in, attempts to call su, so perhaps they do check now.
I'd prefer to see a root method where the app hides the binary under a unique name so they can't call it to find out.
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If Google is doing that, hopefully they won't share that info with manufacturers.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}
problaze said:
Hi all,
I just got off the phone with Google support... I phoned them because my nexus definitely has heat issues when I fire up need for speed it gets like a furnace...
When I was on the phone though they told me the warranty was void as it had been rooted (<3 TB)... how can they tell?
Does this mean my nexus is permanently ear marked?
Thanks.
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Let's assume what the OP is saying is true, which it probably isn't. Many states provide additional consumer protection, even if there was a clause in the warranty which reduces your rights. (There is no clause which explicitly removes your right to root in the Nexus 10 warranty, but IANAL.)
The manufacturer is still responsible for physical defects.
However, I cannot imagine that someone would call Google and receive that answer and not be angry, mentioning the rep by name he talked to, and asking to make sure that the rep's claim was accurate.
Perhaps the OP is not telling the whole story, (e.g. he called and proclaimed that he was an advanced user, gave the rep attitude, rep came back with "oh yeah well you're rooted, we don't have to support you". Anyone who has done customer service or help desk knows what I'm talking about.) or just plain making the whole thing up, since I have never heard of any company refusing to service a rooted device unless there was a problem user with multiple returns.
I do acknowledge that the OP may not be full of crap, but if that is the case, I strongly advise OP not to take what a single rep said as gospel and keep calling back and asking for a supervisor until it's resolved.
However, there's another issue:
If the OP rooted, installed a custom kernel, found his device ran too hot, then called Google complaining without first reverting to stock and testing to make sure it wasn't the custom kernel causing the overheating, the OP's brain is the thing needing a warranty exchange.
I contacted Google about my nexus 10 dropping wifi randomly a few days ago.
The guy who I spoke to was quite nice and told me to do a factory reset. I told him I had already done that and I had also tried CM10, AOKP as some people have said that fixes any kernel/rom issues and I said the problem remains on everything I do so it had to be the device.
I was offered a refund outside the 15 day period and I chose a replacement which was shipped today.
If I spoke to someone who said that they couldn't help me because I'm rooted, I'd hang up and try again. Although if you are having problems a full restore to stock will be helpful if you ring up and speak to them.
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Let's assume what the OP is saying is true, which it probably isn't. Many states provide additional consumer protection, even if there was a clause in the warranty which reduces your rights. (There is no clause which explicitly removes your right to root in the Nexus 10 warranty, but IANAL.)
The manufacturer is still responsible for physical defects.
However, I cannot imagine that someone would call Google and receive that answer and not be angry, mentioning the rep by name he talked to, and asking to make sure that the rep's claim was accurate.
Perhaps the OP is not telling the whole story, (e.g. he called and proclaimed that he was an advanced user, gave the rep attitude, rep came back with "oh yeah well you're rooted, we don't have to support you". Anyone who has done customer service or help desk knows what I'm talking about.) or just plain making the whole thing up, since I have never heard of any company refusing to service a rooted device unless there was a problem user with multiple returns.
I do acknowledge that the OP may not be full of crap, but if that is the case, I strongly advise OP not to take what a single rep said as gospel and keep calling back and asking for a supervisor until it's resolved.
However, there's another issue:
If the OP rooted, installed a custom kernel, found his device ran too hot, then called Google complaining without first reverting to stock and testing to make sure it wasn't the custom kernel causing the overheating, the OP's brain is the thing needing a warranty exchange.
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I totally understand where you're coming from.
I used to work behind the genius bar so I know what you're getting at.
The full story is that I phoned up first and arranged a swap but realised that they would send to university address and not home phoned back again to change address and that's when the guy tried some extra steps with me and then asked for serial etc, you know the rest.
I get his word isn't stone but was shocked that they could definitely tell, wanted to share exp.
In all honesty the reason I didn't act rationally was that he ultimately called me out and I was major surprised since I'd never heard of anything similar before aka remote sense of root.
This is literally the third android device I've had and I'm only getting into the scene now, there's no custom kernel on my nexus. I run it stock.
FYI this was UK. Oh and CS didn't deny service they just referred me to someone else. Will try again post hols.
Hope explains!
?? Has anyone else experienced major heat on NFS:MW ??
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I'd prefer to see a root method where the app hides the binary under a unique name so they can't call it to find out.
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you mean like the way a rootkit does it
?? Has anyone else experienced major heat on NFS:MW ??
Mine do to and lag in a lot of games because of throttling
I sent my TF300 back to the motherland the beginning of Feb as the bootloader unlock app did not work. The 'network' error. Got it back quickly but nothing was done. Sent it off again and they have had it since the 21st of Feb. The online complaint form generated a form letter. I have called twice and have been 'accelerated' to find out what is taking so long. 5 weeks and counting.
No more ASUS products for me.
Kit
If I were you I would have first asked help from us if you cant unlock your bootloader.
It's always the last option for me to RMA the device because you can assume that it will take long if you have to mail it over borders.
When your tab comes back unlocked or not, I think you will get your answer from here.
Heatti said:
If I were you I would have first asked help from us if you cant unlock your bootloader.
It's always the last option for me to RMA the device because you can assume that it will take long if you have to mail it over borders.
When your tab comes back unlocked or not, I think you will get your answer from here.
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Thanks for your post. It is my understanding from researching this forum that the ONLY way to unlock the bootloader is to use the ASUS app. I would not have sent it off if I could have had an alternative. Even if it needed a screwdriver and solder. If there is an alternative to RMA, I would love to hear it but I am pretty sure there isn't one.
Kit
There must be a way because I remember having the same problem with that network error with ASUS app, wish I could remember how I got my bootloader unlocked then...
Looks like Asus site has 2 versions of this Unlock app: One for 4.2 and the second is for 4.0 and 4.1.
You tried with the correct version? If you were already on 4.2 have you tried downgrading to 4.1 or 4.0 to make it happen?
I researched here pretty thoroughly and the consensus is that there is only one way to unlock the bootloader.
I was actually on the phone with support trying to do it live after a downgrade to 4.1 and several factory resets. No go. That's when they had me send it in the first time. I called again this morning and they still have no answer as to the issue and even if it has been addressed.
Kit
Update.... I have contacted ASUS a total of 8 times since they have had the pad back on 2/21. SIX WEEKS! I have been 'escalated' each time... whatever the hell that means. No returned calls or emails. Today they could not find anyone who would know anything about my pad. I was told this was "unacceptable". I asked what that meant and was answered with silence. I was then told I would receive a call within 24 hrs.
If it is lost and they send me a brand new one, it is going on eBay and I will get a Samsung.
You have been warned.
Kit
So, after many phone calls and 'escalations', I just got my pad back. Was the problem solved? No.
I live in Italy.
I sent it to ASUS technical support my tablet still under warranty.
In the package I sent was:
The tablet unlocked
The charging cable is not working
The SSD with differenti custom Rom .......I forgot to take it off.
In the first e-mail I receive is written that the tablet can not be repaired because it is unlocked.
I respond by writing my disappointment, even on the official facebook page and also on the phone.
My disappointment, gentle, lay in the fact that I had not sent the tablet for a burnt CPU (which could be consistent with an overclocked kernel) but because the display was damaged at the origin.
After some days I get the tablet unlocked with an old stock ROM, repaired, with a new charging cable, with the SSD in a bag.
Education, properly speaking, sometimes you can achieve the solution.
Good luck to you all.
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Over Boost said:
I live in Italy.
I sent it to ASUS technical support my tablet still under warranty.
In the package I sent was:
The tablet unlocked
The charging cable is not working
The SSD with differenti custom Rom .......I forgot to take it off.
In the first e-mail I receive is written that the tablet can not be repaired because it is unlocked.
I respond by writing my disappointment, even on the official facebook page and also on the phone.
My disappointment, gentle, lay in the fact that I had not sent the tablet for a burnt CPU (which could be consistent with an overclocked kernel) but because the display was damaged at the origin.
After some days I get the tablet unlocked with an old stock ROM, repaired, with a new charging cable, with the SSD in a bag.
Education, properly speaking, sometimes you can achieve the solution.
Good luck to you all.
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Hello I also have a very similar problem (as explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773429)but when I tried to send it in for service they said they would charge me money for my unlocked bootloader! Now I've put a doubt: perhaps I was wrong to tell them it was unlocked! Then about how long you waited before you solve them?
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Hello I also have a very similar problem (as explained here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773429)but when I tried to send it in for service they said they would charge me money for my unlocked bootloader! Now I've put a doubt: perhaps I was wrong to tell them it was unlocked! Then about how long you waited before you solve them?
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Hello, I have told them my point of view after they have written to me that they wanted the money to repair, both on facebook and on the phone.
Then I replied to the email rma, saying that I wanted the tablet back unrepaired.
I do not know why, maybe because I told him that I would not have bought Asus products, perhaps because I have been convincing, perhaps because I feel sorry ................... luckily came back repaired ............. something moved, they ignored my request to return the tablet is not repaired!!
Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Over Boost said:
Hello, I have told them my point of view after they have written to me that they wanted the money to repair, both on facebook and on the phone.
Then I replied to the email rma, saying that I wanted the tablet back unrepaired.
I do not know why, maybe because I told him that I would not have bought Asus products, perhaps because I have been convincing, perhaps because I feel sorry ................... luckily came back repaired ............. something moved, they ignored my request to return the tablet is not repaired!!
Maybe I'm just lucky.
20 days
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All figured out ... I could not help but tell him that they are "unlocked" ... but then so would be edged with the same (Transformer Service).
I break a lot of wasting time with the assistance I wrote email, facebook and on their website but want money and the fact that by the time everything works ok ... I know that I keep it like that.
Thank you Hello.
This covers an issue that I've seen asked time and time again with no definitive answer given.
I suppose this isn't an answer but merely my experience
Last monday my note 2 fell out of my pocket and my screen subsequently was destroyed, not just cracked but full on chunks of glass missing. I am insured by Halifax who like most banks in the UK (Barclays, TSB, Nationwide, co-op etc) use Lifestyle Services Group Limited (LSG) to deal with their insurance.
My device was rooted with CM11 and I was using CWM recovery, after searching for an answer to would this affect my insurance, i found nothing that really helped me with LSG, in fact the only things I did find were 100s of general complaints about them trying to get around doing repairs, they didn't fill me with hope.
so biting the bullet I notified them of the damage, made a Nandroid, did a factory reset and sent my phone away on Tuesday :fingers-crossed: .
On Wednesday evening I received an email saying my phone was being returned to me and a tracking number but nothing else. Upon arrival I found a letter saying my "device has been repaired and updated" and a brand new Note 2
after installing CWM again and restoring my phone is perfect again. So if anyone out there has similar concerns to those that I had about root and insurance I hope this gives you a bit of peace of mind. :highfive:
mbloomer04 said:
This covers an issue that I've seen asked time and time again with no definitive answer given.
I suppose this isn't an answer but merely my experience
Last monday my note 2 fell out of my pocket and my screen subsequently was destroyed, not just cracked but full on chunks of glass missing. I am insured by Halifax who like most banks in the UK (Barclays, TSB, Nationwide, co-op etc) use Lifestyle Services Group Limited (LSG) to deal with their insurance.
My device was rooted with CM11 and I was using CWM recovery, after searching for an answer to would this affect my insurance, i found nothing that really helped me with LSG, in fact the only things I did find were 100s of general complaints about them trying to get around doing repairs, they didn't fill me with hope.
so biting the bullet I notified them of the damage, made a Nandroid, did a factory reset and sent my phone away on Tuesday :fingers-crossed: .
On Wednesday evening I received an email saying my phone was being returned to me and a tracking number but nothing else. Upon arrival I found a letter saying my "device has been repaired and updated" and a brand new Note 2
after installing CWM again and restoring my phone is perfect again. So if anyone out there has similar concerns to those that I had about root and insurance I hope this gives you a bit of peace of mind. :highfive:
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Does the Note 2 have KNOX? and what did you flash counter say?
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Does the Note 2 have KNOX? and what did you flash counter say?
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Stock android on the note 2 does have KNOX yes, however obviously when I rooted and installed CM11 it no longer did.
the flash counter changed to 1
The phone I received back from them was back on stock android, and the flash counter read as 0 again
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Does the Note 2 have KNOX? and what did you flash counter say?
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so aye they did repair it even with my flash counter having been tripped
I imagine that it was an easy decision for them to make because the screen breakage had nothing to do with whether the phone was rooted or not. If they'd refuse to repair it and you'd taken them on, it would have been very hard for them to defend themselves.
However, if your phone dies because of a software/hardware issue and it's rooted and/or has a custom ROM installed, they might argue that your actions (i.e. rooting, etc) led to the device failing. And they might then enforce their "warranty void" policy. So people just need to be careful in that situation, and not be too disappointed if their claim is rejected.
Glad you had good luck tho!
apuntigam said:
I imagine that it was an easy decision for them to make because the screen breakage had nothing to do with whether the phone was rooted or not. If they'd refuse to repair it and you'd taken them on, it would have been very hard for them to defend themselves.
However, if your phone dies because of a software/hardware issue and it's rooted and/or has a custom ROM installed, they might argue that your actions (i.e. rooting, etc) led to the device failing. And they might then enforce their "warranty void" policy. So people just need to be careful in that situation, and not be too disappointed if their claim is rejected.
Glad you had good luck tho!
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aye, the whole warranty void issue was where I believed they could turn me down.
in the past I've claimed on the warranty twice (still using stock) and both times have only at the last minute remembered to swap the back panel to the original as the one at the time had a palm stone wireless charging plate in it which I'm sure would have resulted in them sending it back untouched