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i love the keyboard but i was wondering if there is anything out there that is as intelligent as the iphone keyboard. For instance, the software, over time, recognizes the general area of where your thumb presses a key and adjusts so you always hit the key. anyone know what i am talking about?
well anyone know of any keyboard that does that or if the new pocketcm will have it?
i can search online,or you can come www.fine-nike.com to find,there are have many products,as like shoes,clothes,and so one
From David Pogue:
"* Although you don’t see it with your eyes, the sizes of the keys on the iPhone keyboard are changing all the time. That is, the software enlarges the “landing area” of certain keys, based on probability.
For example, supposed you type “tim.” Now, the iPhone knows that no word in the language begins timw or timr—and so, invisibly, it enlarges the “landing area” of the E key, which greatly diminishes your chances of making a typo on that last letter. Very cool."
That is what i mean.
mikechen said:
i can search online,or you can come www.fine-nike.com to find,there are have many products,as like shoes,clothes,and so one
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why do you keep advertising nike???
and meccax, that does sound cool, but i dont think there is a keyboard out there like that. the closest thing i can think of is PocketCM.
no one knows?
Yes you can!
hello, just use resco keyoard pro (5.xx) with the iskin...skin and for me it is perfect.
See U
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no one knows?
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what is know?
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i can search online,or you can come www.fine-nike.com to find,there are have many products,as like shoes,clothes,and so one
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why still have this
when i used rescoe keyboard it was really slow.
ammadchen said:
when i used rescoe keyboard it was really slow.
yes,but you don't used keyboard,you also can open it
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what? what are you talking about?
Its not really like the iphones keyboard but cooltek touchpal has mistyping correction....
does anyone here speak proper english ?
wow this is sort of a screwy thread...
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Its not really like the iphones keyboard but cooltek touchpal has mistyping correction....
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anyway, as said above ^^^, touchpal has mistyping correction built-in. i personally dont care much for that keyboard.
but something GREAT that i didnt even know about is...the standard htc touch keyboard kind of has it!!
you can try typing "timw" and get time! just make sure and go into the input settings, and check all boxes. do not, however, check "multi-tap correction". this i think does help improve typing prediction a little, but it prevents the keyboard from searching your contacts in "to:" fields.
hope this helps!
I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC - and they've got a lot of brain damaged products to show for.
For one, that IDIOTIC keyboard they got built in there NEVER,EVER lets me finish what I'm typing.
IT allways(!) ends up "correcting me" in mid word and 99% of the time, it corrects it wrongly.
It simply exchanges one letter for another and I'm sure is darn proud of itself while doing it.
And no, I already tried disabling "auto-correction" in the device input options, and it doesn't change a thing.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?!
Then try TouchPal Pro. But for me, I prefer HD2 native keyboard. The T9 mode is useful.
I'd recommend calibrating the screen (with your thumbs, as if you're using the phone), and just slow down and get used to it. It does take a while, but I can type very fast with it now and very rarely make mistakes. The keyboard takes a lot of practice, but is worth it.
I have T9 mode on and auto-correct off. I like to have suggestions, but don't like it forcing words on me. It usually gives me the correct word by the time I'm half way through typing it, so this obviously speeds up typing.
Incidentally, T9 rather eerily learns how you type. It seems to adapt to your typing style as you go along, so stick with it, or just turn it off completely if you want no suggestions at all.
Deactivate T9 on the keyboard.
I didn't feel happy with the original keyboard, too.
Tried Resco keyboard 5.23.
Now i have a better accuracy.
If you must do the tap tap thing... Touchpal 4.0.... however, I find that Swype is the best and really really fast.... it's almost like magic...
Yes... turn off T9....
HTC HD2 Keyboard is KILLING ME!
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
Dont run just yet
You shouldnt need to change ur keyboard... i tried Swipe and i think its really good but still can use the HTC at top speed with T9 and correction on
Things to try first
1.Recalibrate
2.Install 3.3 Cab from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
3 if you dont want to reduce sensitivity just add a screen protector takes away about 3-5% of sensitiveness
Thats all I have done and i dont dread sending texts anymore
Hope this helps
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
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Your heart warming reply was so (not) helpful that it makes me appreciate the other responses which contain actual hints - rather than mindless insults - that much more.
Thanks once more (for nothing)
And by the way, I specifically stated that I did not want *anything* to be auto corrected - as I can correct myself a lot faster if I don't have to correct the keyboard first all the time.
Sorry, but there are countless threads about the keyboard. If you're not able to search before you open another one, then it's your fault if you get resposes like this.
Same for your stupid thread title. Make a proper thread title, use the search and you won't get such responses.
And if you disable T9 and autocorrection, then it won't correct you. If you're still not able to type, then it's your fault. It doesn't exchange letters just for fun. It's you pressing the wrong keys.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?![/QUOTE]
Try the Swype keyboard!
See that T9 switch at the left of the keyboard? Press it. Problem gone.
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...I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC -This is just a moronic design!!!!
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Understand your anger and frustration if the you are not getting on with the device but a couple of points:
- There are a lot of people (not all) who are happy with their device and have found solutions to the keyboard issue (some suggestions in this thread) so the problem might be your technique perhaps?
- Also, given that you spent nearly $1K on this device, did you not test one out thoroughly first BEFORE buying it? I can't see anyone being silly enough to spend that amount of money on anything, whether its a phone or a vehicle, before checking it out first?
Really interested in your answer to the 2nd question in particular.
Hopefully with the help you have been given here so far and if you take your time you will eventually be able to work with the device. I don't have the issues you have but where I have not been comfortable, adopting a solution off XDA, having searched first, has worked for me.
WB
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I recommend to use Swype.
die and prove it
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die and prove it
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Way to go making friends on the forum superplayboy.
kengkaj.s said:
I recommend to use Swype.
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I totally agree with this. Whilst I don't hate the original keyboard I did find it a touch fiddly. Swype is fantastic IMO' a great idea and so easy to use.
I can sympathise with the frustrations here. I like using auto correct and am very familiar with all of HTCs onscreen keyboards, along with those of the omnia i8000, Galaxy and iPhone and I must say that although the HD2 keyboard isn't the WORST, it can be most frustrating, particularly when you need to type out a quick text. most of my problems stem from what seems to be poor prediction algorithms. let me say that I am no Apple fanboy, but this keyboard has a long way to go to be as excellent as that of the iPhone: often on here if I get ONE letter wrong at the start of the word it will be incapable of understanding what I'm trying to type, whereas if I get a letter wrong somewhere in the middle it'll be fine. another problem I have is that sometimes when sending an sms the cursor will magically jump to the top of the text and I will unwittingly start typing over the start of my initial sentence. Also if I go to delete a number of letters often the keyboard will have a fit and start throwing letters and paragraphs everywhere. I accept that this is probably my finger not being 100 percent accurate but surely it is also a sign that the keyboard is just TOO SENSITIVE, even with the patch installed. I never had this problem on the Hero, nor the iPhone - both of which have vastly smaller screens.
lastly i'd like that t9 button moved as its just TOO easy to catch without realising.
I accept that some people on here don't seem to have any problem, but perhaps you guys are too forgiving, and sometimes it takes a bit of a whine and moan to get things fixed. Like I said, I'm very familiar with onscreen keyboards and accept that there is a certain learning curve to all of them, but after nearly two months with a HD2 I'm starting to believe that this one is very flawed: given the massive screen real estate of the hd2 I believe there is no excuse for a flawed onscreen keyboard. remember, this is a CRUCIAL part of a device with no hardware input facility, and we should not (in my opinion) have to buy third party software to get an acceptable basic user experience on a handset built as a thoroughly commercial mass-media device.
Thats my two cents.
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Thats my two cents.
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I agree with both of those cents fully
Also with regards to the post a few posts up, I presume that the person who spent $1000 on a phone lives in America where a HD2 would be hard to come buy as its not actually out there yet? You can't really blame him for buying it without testing it, especially with all the rave reviews on hundreds of sites, none of which seem to mention the flaws such as the keyboard and terrible (seriously terrible) sms sending issue.
Actually I also think HTC keyboard is not very good. I will not recommend anybody to use it. Anyway different people have different experience.
If you don't like Swype, you can try Finger Keyboard I think it's better than the HTC Keyboard.
I also have problems with my keyboard but I suspect a hardware fault and I am going to return my phone.
When I type it sometimes selects (multiple) letters on the other side of the keyboard or around the key i pressed. It usually comes in "bursts"; sometimes its nearly impossible to typ. Nearly threw the thing out of a window. Its a good phone but my keyboard is ruining the whole thing. Also (thats more rare) it can begin typing on its own, selecting or opening programs, switching tabs without me touching the screen! I waited for a new ROM and tried various tweaks but it doesn't get any better
I dont understand why HTC didn't just use the Desire's keyboard. Instead just added really annoying arrows, and in result I find myself constantly hitting these arrows instead of the space or enter keys. Typing is a mess.
Well, no longer. Just wanted to let you guys know jonasl's modded htc keyboard works PERFECTLY. NO MORE ARROWS. YAY!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
how do you navigate without a track pad?
You obviously missed the Swype guide >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687056
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You obviously missed the Swype guide >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687056
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swype all the way for me, can't even type on the reg keyboard without having to fix every single word
Trackpad? With a 4.3 inch touchscreen? I dont need arrows when i can just pan around the screen with my finger. But im coming from an iPhone.
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You obviously missed the Swype guide >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687056
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Actually Swype was the first thing I tried. But its not for me. I can type fast using swype but faster on a qwerty. Also, I am constantly typing in different languages and sometimes I simply cannot rely on any kind of prediction.
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Actually Swype was the first thing I tried. But its not for me. I can type fast using swype but faster on a qwerty. Also, I am constantly typing in different languages and sometimes I simply cannot rely on any kind of prediction.
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I realize this is kind of weird, but have you tried just using the Swype keyboard like a normal keyboard? for some reason I feel like it is easier to use than the other keyboard that way. And you could always practice with swyping, you might get pretty good at it!
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I realize this is kind of weird, but have you tried just using the Swype keyboard like a normal keyboard? for some reason I feel like it is easier to use than the other keyboard that way. And you could always practice with swyping, you might get pretty good at it!
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I did! But sometimes I move so fast between keys it actually thinks I'm swiping. Plus It would still try to "correct' words that were typed in another language into english, no matter how accurately I touched each button.
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I did! But sometimes I move so fast between keys it actually thinks I'm swiping. Plus It would still try to "correct' words that were typed in another language into english, no matter how accurately I touched each button.
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You might try Shapewriter out. I believe you can add custom libraries to it, so you could add other languages you type in the same file as your English library.
How is swype for dealing with words that aren't necessarily regularly part of the english language? I tend to use my phone for searching for device model numbers for example, and sense annoys me somewhat because it autocorrects words that aren't actually words but model nomenclatures.
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How is swype for dealing with words that aren't necessarily regularly part of the english language? I tend to use my phone for searching for device model numbers for example, and sense annoys me somewhat because it autocorrects words that aren't actually words but model nomenclatures.
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good, you can add words to the swype dictionary by typing it in and pushing the "swype key"
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I realize this is kind of weird, but have you tried just using the Swype keyboard like a normal keyboard? for some reason I feel like it is easier to use than the other keyboard that way. And you could always practice with swyping, you might get pretty good at it!
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You must be really slow at Swype if you're faster with QWERTY. @[email protected]
I also like SmartKeyBoard Pro which is more IPHONE like for some.
But bottom line folks is that you have choices. If this were an IPHONE and you didn't like the keyboard what options for you have? That is the main point of arguement between the two camps.
Both have their good points and bad points. We are not required to buy either. We can go back to the Motorola Razr Ver(xx) if we wanted to.
If the new IPHONE had at least a 3.8 or 4.0 screen I would use my upgrade and get one to have. But I am very happy with the EVO and I look foward to Froyo 2.2 update that has everything working on it.
Don't get me wrong. I love my phone. Have been with windows mobile for many years. Never had an iphone or any Apple product.
I just find the keyboard on this phone sucks. You would expect it to be better than the iphone as it is wider but the truth is the iphone keyboard is way better. I think the ghost area for each key spans a bigger area on the iphone thus makes it more accurate. My sister has an iphone and i can type very well on it.
With the HD2 keyboard I am constantly making mistakes. I hate that the XT9/ABC key is directly below the A key as I find myself constantly switching to ABC mode by accident. I have to be more careful and precise when typing, thus slower. Sometime spaces are not entered. I have tried the sensitivity tweaks. I have tried different roms. I have tried the phone pad. Still aways not perfect.
Ok, I am a big fan of Winmo. I started the HUGE hints and tips thread on here and on the Blackstone forum too many years ago. Not bashing WinMo or this phone - just the keyboard makes for frustrating use.
I think I should get a new phone. Not sure whether to get a Blackberry with a physical keyboard, an iphone, an android phone or just another winmo phone with a keyboard. I used to have an Asus P525 which was a fab phone and had a great keyboard. Sadly dated specs though.
Am very tempted with a WP7 phone. Am just fed up with the HD2 keyboard.
Don't know what to do.
Any advice?
Have you tried other keyboards such as Swype?
i know what you mean. however, i use swype and that makes typing on this phone quicker than any other phone i have ever tried.
I have tried swype briefly but I did not give it the benefit of time. Maybe I should try it again.
I know how you feel man. I hate the keyboard on my HD2. Thats the main reason I have been using my iPhone over my HD2. The HD2 blows my iPhone away as far as performance goes, but I just cant type on the damn keyboard. I tried Swype and it adds so much speed to typing, but It seems like it doesn't recognize a lot of the words I type, and it suggest things that aren't even close. I know back when I was running Hero roms on my G1 I had the option of calibrating the keyboard. Do we not have this option on the HD2?
yea you are right it takes forever typing using the hd2 keypad constantly making mistakes.. a physical keypad would be my preferred choice But it is abit weak to change mobile phones over a keypad dont you think?? if you said the battery life then i would agree! anyway all the best. i tried using swype but it suffers from lag!!
Do you really think it is a bit weak of me to change the phone because of the keyboard? Don't you think that the keyboard is one of the most important parts of a phone that someone uses daily? How can HTC not get the one important thing right? Everything else about the phone is great - well almost. But the keyboard just sucks! with a capital S
how much you willing to part with it?
i totally agree with the keyboard thing. I don't know if mine is even worse than others because when I ask other people about the keyboard on the HD2 they say its fine.
When I press "keys" it constantly hits all the keys around it, so i want to type 1 letter and end up having 4 or 5 letters pop up. Because of this I rarely text anymore and end up calling people for simple replys to their texts such as, what time for a froff?
It's possibly the only bad thing about the HD2, but it is massively bad.
I think hot and cold days really effect it, along with really warm fingers and when the screen heats up a bit from being on for a few mins.
I've learned to live with swype. Still not as fast as my hardware kb on my tp2, but the other specs made upgrading a nobrainer.
haven't had any problems with the keyboard on my hd2, have you guys tried asking any of the developers to try to replicate the iphone keyboard for the hd2?
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Do you really think it is a bit weak of me to change the phone because of the keyboard? Don't you think that the keyboard is one of the most important parts of a phone that someone uses daily? How can HTC not get the one important thing right? Everything else about the phone is great - well almost. But the keyboard just sucks! with a capital S
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Yes.
I just noticed how difficult it is to use the keyboard for long senteces. I was doing heavy, long texting today, and I kept getting mistakes. (I sometimes use Swype, but its accuracy can be way off at times.
I agree that HTC's EzInput isn't that great. It was probably meant only for single-touch, resistive screens that their older devices have. I personally found the virtual keyboard easy to use on my TP2 when I had to do quick texts -- it was much more accurate (and keep in mind: resistive screens are more accurate than capacitives).
They only boast their keyboard because it has the d-pad buttons on it (compared to other keyboards).
I have no idea what you are talking about: i fing the virtual mb to be quite nifty. for example, i am using it right now to type this rsponse. its going just zplebdix. except cor the paefz when my fingeracacvidentakky touch outside the area of the keypad abnd that automaticlly diskisses the meyoad. that is annoying.
Have you tried to change the settings for the standard keyborad - it kan change the feeling a lot.
But in the end i wasn't satisfied with the standard keyborad, so i tried Fingerkeyboard that isn't a "swyping" keyboard?
Or, SlideIT, that i use. It's smilary to Swype, but much better for me.
hi,
By sensitive tweaks do you speak about this one :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697765
Work for me....
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I have tried swype briefly but I did not give it the benefit of time. Maybe I should try it again.
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you really should give it a good try. At first it does not recognise all the words you type but then it learns and is soooo much quicker.
A friend who has the iphone said my keyboard was crap so we compared his against my swype. he was still on the first couple of words by the time i had finished the sentence. Granted i do touch type but swype really is quick with practice.
i wouldn't
use swipe pal, once it learns a few words and you get used to it its awesome, also the rate at which andriod is being developed for the hd2 is quick and the keyboard on that is fantastic on the massive screen.
i stick with it mate.
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SlideIT, that i use. It's smilary to Swype, but much better for me.
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SlideIT is the one, I love that keyboard. It'd a bit quirky when you first use it, but once you get used to it, it's amazing. I can't use Swype anymore, it's not half as good as SlideIT IMO, and the fact that it hangs over the bottom taskbar on 6.5.x puts me off too.
So many links, I'm not trying to get you to try SlideIT, honest!
There are so many 3rd party keyboards, resco keybpoard, touchpal, fingerkeyboard, sywpe....
I'm using swype&touchpal. tochpal for internet browsing, cause swype sucks there - i'm using german dic.
..and i love them.
Ah yes, Fingerkeyboard, I forgot about that one. It's a nice freeware keyboard, similar to the default one. Try that also.
I find the button to close together, even the android keyboard. What do yall think of them? What do yall recommend for big fingered dudes? Also, how hard is it to install a new keyboard?
I agree the Android keyboard is 'meh'. While I do wish the Standard keyboard had a larger space bar, otherwise I love it, I like Betterkeyboard with the Glass Orb skin. I know it doesn't affect the actual key size but I find that I'm a lot more accurate with that skin than others. Plus they have the Compact keyboard mode which may help. It was worth cost to me.
The HTC_IME mod is great...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
And IF it still is too small, you can set it to show up as an old-style phone keyboard with the 12 keys, and then it will use t9 spelling for you...
I cant recommend shapewriter highly enough. Once you have used it (or similar, swype for eg) you will not want to go back to the normal "tapping" method.
PM me if you want the apk.
Yeah, HTC touch input is very cool. Smart keyboard pro is also nice, but if your fingers are THAT big, I'd suggest Blindtype
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eKm1gUnTE
(it has not been released yet, though )
JamesBarnes said:
I cant recommend shapewriter highly enough. Once you have used it (or similar, swype for eg) you will not want to go back to the normal "tapping" method.
PM me if you want the apk.
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lol shapewriter can be found in the market
been trying a lot of different keypads. Swiftkey is pretty good for the language and predictive options but not much space between the keys like all the others. No matter what keypad i try i still seem to be going back to the htc one.
They really should release it onto the market officially.
I use smart keyboard and just recently gone pro with it .
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Not in mine
What about ultra keyboard? I love it, everything is configurable!
I have the same problem that I don't like any of the keyboards out there.
Swype is slow for me - I only speed up if I swipe the same word over and over again, which rarely happens in real life.
T9 and Ultra requires too many corrections and having to double or triple tap to get the exact letter you want is annoying when the prediction doesn't get it right.
Other keyboards the keys are too small especially if you have to type anything a bit unusual. Blindtype would have the same problem though it's not available yet.
Anything else out there?
i have tried a whole dozen before someone here recommend shapewriter, it's really that good, once i got used to it, i don't even want to use 'keyboard' on my phone anymore
Shapewriter 3.0.9 (Non-expiring) : http://www.mediafire.com/?qwffb21f0804twk
Try Swift Key.........i prefer it over Skype and Stock
SlideIT for the best "exotic language support" gets my vote. Has about 18 languages supported - including the Nordics, including different keyboard layouts (so you'll see the national keys, too). Current version (2.x) looks professional enough, too. A nice bonus is the single-key language switcher.
Shapewriter has a nicer key-spacing, so less error-prone, but lacks advance language support feats. If they get the Nordics fixed, it'd be a good choice too.
Swype looks good but seems lag-ridden, at least enough for me not to trounce SlideIT at present (let's see, if Nordic languages come by).
Bottom line: since I found Shapewriter, and later SlideIT, I haven't looked back to the traditional tap-tap-tap-keyboards - no matter how polished, no matter how good their prediction is. Speed, and even a reduced error rate (at times, only!) - two top reasons to start using a sliding keyboard.
Give them a try. A good try. Once you get beyond that initial WT... barrier, writing on your phone will never be the same.
Just tried shapewriter on the evo and I have to second that so far it is better than swype. I just like the fact that is it real easy to add words to the dictionary.
I have now swiftkey, its new and so far it's working well
Sent from my rooted X10i using tapatalk
I had a few problems with the latest update of Swype.. UNTIL... I changed some of the settings (found the problem on there website, can't recall what the changes were now..) but now it's fantastic again.. and the sliding from the swype key to the Sym key to get the navigation keys is just genious..)..
Needless to say, I love it.. it is the proverbial dogs cogs.
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I cant recommend shapewriter highly enough. Once you have used it (or similar, swype for eg) you will not want to go back to the normal "tapping" method.
PM me if you want the apk.
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Shapewriter 3.0.9 (Non-expiring) : http://www.mediafire.com/?qwffb21f0804twk
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awesome, the expiration was getting annoying. Much appreciated!!
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SlideIT for the best "exotic language support" gets my vote. Has about 18 languages supported - including the Nordics, including different keyboard layouts (so you'll see the national keys, too). Current version (2.x) looks professional enough, too. A nice bonus is the single-key language switcher.
Shapewriter has a nicer key-spacing, so less error-prone, but lacks advance language support feats. If they get the Nordics fixed, it'd be a good choice too.
Swype looks good but seems lag-ridden, at least enough for me not to trounce SlideIT at present (let's see, if Nordic languages come by).
Bottom line: since I found Shapewriter, and later SlideIT, I haven't looked back to the traditional tap-tap-tap-keyboards - no matter how polished, no matter how good their prediction is. Speed, and even a reduced error rate (at times, only!) - two top reasons to start using a sliding keyboard.
Give them a try. A good try. Once you get beyond that initial WT... barrier, writing on your phone will never be the same.
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homie I REALLY appreciate the fact that you took the time to hook up up with some seriously detailed knowledge; your post is far more useful than the "I like ____ more than ___."
Per your rec's, I actually will try both alternatives, because I ran out of Swype beta time and I couldn't find a lasting apk
Time for a new keyboard [again]!