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Thinking about a new Vogue

Alright, I might as well prove mods don't know it all. I'm thinking about purchasing a new Vogue and going with Sprint. I've got a few questions here.
1) I think I've gathered that GPS capability is on this phone...it just has to be activated with proper settings or a new ROM. Will someone set me straight on this?
2) What are your thoughts on battery life?
3) What are your thoughts on call reception and service?
4) How is the build quality?
Radio Shack is getting rid of the last ones for $19.95 w/a new contract. Though I don't like the idea of getting an older phone (I've had a Wizard for 3 years now) I love the form factor and as long as XDA is around and these things are upgradable, I'll probably enjoy it.

Dang, this board is dead...I guess we'll just have to close it up, hehehe.

1) The Vogue DOES have GPS capability, it will work with or without a data connection.
2) My Vogue's battery life usually runs a whole day (24 hrs) with heavy usage, with light usage it runs about 2 days-2.5 days...
3) In my area its pretty good reception, and I commute to my school, which is 25 miles away, and I get really good reception in that area
4) I think the build quality is really good. I've dropped the phone on concrete more than twice, and pretty hard too, and the only thing that happened was the case came off, and the battery as well, but its just like legos, put it back together, other than that just minor scratches...
I recommend a screen protector
Hope that helped! Didint wanna leave you hanging lol

Thanks for the response. Though I'd like get a Touch Pro, I'd rather have a device that won't cost an arm and a leg with most of the capability.

I believe sprint recently removed the touch from their site. Hope you can find one locally!

I just got my Vogue from US Cellular in December. I'm located in a rural part of Iowa. I have activated the GPS, and it normally connects very quickly. I bought it knowing the GPS was not activated, and was not sure if it would be possible, so this was a definite bonus for me.
Battery life is generally pretty good, about what manifest said, although steady web surfing will drain it pretty quickly. I drained the battery in a couple of hours one day when I was with family members who were shopping and I was accessing information on the web and writing a sermon and a newsletter column. (I'm a minister.)
I've been very pleased with the call reception. I'm not on the Sprint system, but the call quality is very good. USC is supposed to be rolling out evdo in my area later this year (fingers crossed), and even without it most web sites load pretty quickly, and when I am in ev areas it loads like my broadband at home.
The vogue seems to be very solid. I've dropped it a few times, and I didn't even have to put the battery back in. Soon after I got it, I bought an aluminum case for it. Black. Until I open it up, people think its just the black phone. My wife has picked it up and wondered why tapping on the screen doesn't do anything, until she realizes its the window on the case. It's the least bulky option for a case I have seen, it protects the phone well, and it keeps buttons and the screen from being pushed when I don't intend to. The downside is that it drops reception by a bar when the cover is closed. I still seldom miss a call.

jwzg said:
Alright, I might as well prove mods don't know it all. I'm thinking about purchasing a new Vogue and going with Sprint. I've got a few questions here.
1) I think I've gathered that GPS capability is on this phone...it just has to be activated with proper settings or a new ROM. Will someone set me straight on this?
2) What are your thoughts on battery life?
3) What are your thoughts on call reception and service?
4) How is the build quality?
Radio Shack is getting rid of the last ones for $19.95 w/a new contract. Though I don't like the idea of getting an older phone (I've had a Wizard for 3 years now) I love the form factor and as long as XDA is around and these things are upgradable, I'll probably enjoy it.
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GPS is activated on the phone with WM 6.1, so that should not be an issue for you.
Battery life will vary wildly depending on your location. At home my reception is 1xRTT and battery will drian pretty fast. At work I have EvDO and battery life will nearly double. I can web surf, email, listen 8 hours to music over bluetooth stereo all at work, and make a call or two at home in the evening with no problem. However, I did invest in a larger battery from Seidio. Yes it makes the phone 4 mm thicker, but I've actually come to like the slightly thicker size. Seems a bit easier to handle and to finger touch the screen more accurately.
Call reception has been great in both the city and at home. There is one dead spot on the way to work, but I car pool with two others who each have different carriers, and it appears to be a dead spot for everyone. If you need to call customer support, it's generally a pleasure. I've yet to reach someone whose first language is not English. Yes, they have to go through their standard troubleshooting script, but if you are pleasant to them they are pleasant back, and they do seem knowledgeable. I tend to call support on the weekends or early mornings, and have never waited more than 3 minutes to get a live person on the phone.
The phone is sturdy, feels solid, even with my new battery cover, which leaves a slightly hollow space in much of the back. Dropped it a few times with no ill effects.
I would say take advantage of the deal.

I actually bought two new Vogues from from RadioTrash, upgrading from a couple of 3 year old Sanyo MM-8300 flip phones. At first, I was a little worried about some things on the Vogues:
The reception in my rural area of Missouri was horrible compared to the older Sanyo phones; 0-1 bar compared to 3-4 bars.
My battery life wasn't anywhere near what the earlier poster said. After multiple charges, I was lucky to get 6 hours of standby time on a full charge (and thats with screen off most of the time).
I wasn't really figuring out the purpose of the big silver button at the bottom with the square four-direction action ring. I am still not sure of the best way to use this, yet it looks very important being so big and obvious on the front of the phone.
Right before I was about ready to take the phones back, I received some expert help from some of the users here and loaded the same PRL that I had on my Sanyo phone into the Vogue phone and Wow! Now the Vogue is getting 3-4 bars in the basement of my rural home.
Next, I bought a Mugen Power 2400 mAh extended battery on-line for 70 bucks (shipped) from nakedcellphones.com and Wow again! Now I get over a week in standby or at least 8 hours talk time. The battery came with a new back cover (humpless type) to accomodate the thicker battery which was very well mathed to the original. The increased thickness of the phone is actually a better feel in my hands and I prefer it over the thinner OEM.
Next I went to a local Verizon store to get a new leather case to accomodate the thicker phone. This was at the recommendation of another user here, and even though this is a Sprint phone, they assisted me in finding the coolest case that I'm very happy with (26 bucks out the door)
Finally, I ordered a fantastic screen protector which is probably the best you can buy in terms of feel, durability, scratch resistance, viewability, and touch screen sensitivity. Paid 15 bucks (shipped), enough to do four phones at photodon.com
Then I loaded the coolest ROM called DHarvey's Black Vista and I couldn't be happier with the way everything works (free).
Overall, I have to say that I am impressed with the build quality of these phones. Nothing really to break. But in all my wild on-line searches, I came across this Chinese site that sells all the OEM parts for this phone cheap should I need to replace something like a screen, a switch, a button, etc.
So in all here is the tally:
Phone: ........ $20
Battery: ........ 70
Case: ............ 26
Screen Film: ... 4
ROM .............. -0-
Total ........... $120
I am not at all dissapointed in what I have spent considering the performance, style, and quality that I now have. And its still less than I paid for the Sanyo phones when they were new ($149).

Pick up a Touch Pro2 yesterday....how does it compare to HD....

The TP2 has intrigued me since I read of the pending release so many months ago. Really, the only attributes I was interested in was 3G on a T-Mo locked device and the hard keyboard due to thousands of Texts I write per month.
First, the color scheme for T-Mo isn't that bad. I read a number of posts on various T-Mo forums whining about the moco/brown. I'm not looking at it that often and when it's in front of my face I'm thinking of something (ala Bill Meyer )
The good: Nice and shiny...well I suppose, it is right out of the box.
The Touch flow is silky smooth. I've been running a minimalist ROM on my HD, so I loose a bit in the UI side for memory. Guess I'll change to Miri's latest.
The keyboard has a nice tactile feel. The phone easily flips over the keyboard, which can be used only in landscape.
The speaker is amazing: If I were a consistent user of conference calling, this would be a major plus. Voice, which is weak on the HD, is strong and clear on the Rhodium. Even music isn't bad and on a phone that's saying something.
The bad: The case is fat as hell. Our HD is thin and easily managable with one hand, but the TP2 with the added thickness, flip top and keyboard (when in use) makes the phone cumbersome.
Data plan costs $5 more (WTF!?!)
I paid through the nose because my number (3 lines on data for each, unlimited call and unlimited text) was 14 mo into a 24 mo contract. No biggie, it's going back anyway.
My perspective: I drove around Portland looking for 3G....yes, it's here, somewhere. Not around my house in Vancouver, but I have wifi. I pulled over at several major streets off I-5 and 405 - I'll be damned if I could locate a 3G signal or improved bandwidth.
The phone feels like a brick in my pocket (usually pants). I get the feeling the keyboard is pulling away from the phone in my pants. I'd hate like hell to break the phone, although I could buy insurance before the 14 day return (I'm evil).
Talk, screen and UI wise it's pretty much the same.
My HD wins hands down. It's so versatile, skinny and loads of high talent developers (although I'm sure Rhodium will have soon) that I just can't see giving it use for a mars bar.

I normaly am a slide out keyboard fan but I was thinking that phone looks to thick my self. I am hoping the Diamond 2 comes out with ATT 3G bands at some point.....

I've just become a TP2 owner too mate, can't help but browse the HD section of this forum! lol.
You'll find some nice touches and somehow it feels a bit more fluid.
for example - place the phone down, speakerphone mode comes on.
proximity sensor switches off screen and back on again whilst in call (when held to your face)
the screen has a better response all over- especially around the edges - the Touch HD is easier to press in the middle of the screen and register a touch than the outer edges of the screen. Its like less 'pressure' is required than the Touch HD.
oh and the keyboard is REALLY worth the extra bulk - its a joy to use unlike the keyboards of before - makes typing faster and allot easier too.....
thats just the points I've picked up so far (about a months experience with it so far).

So, is this the phone everyone wanted?

Now that we've all had the phone for some time now, is this the phone you wanted? Does it live up to the hype?
I personally love this phone. I don't have any serious gripes about it. Mainly small things but they aren't a deal breaker at all. This phone feels great in hand and the keyboard feels natural. However, I never use the application shortcut buttons or the www. Button. Those feel like gimmicks to me. I would have loved a full 5 row keyboard but manufacturers seem clueless to that nowadays. The phone is still very fast and my hinge is still strong. Battery lasts me 18+ hours with heavy usage. Its great when you don't have to constantly worry about the battery level.
Can't wait for this bad boy to get rooted and over clocked!
From here on out I'm only buying phones with stock android.
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Amen. Ditched the vibrant for this and couldn't be happier.
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I am also completely happy with the phone. But like u said. I never use the www key as well as the quick keys. I would like a full number dedicated row.. but its not a deal breaker for me.
I can't wait for P. Root and wifi tethering!! (=
Sent from my T-Mobile G2

Arcadia310 said:
seem clueless to that nowadays. The phone is still very fast and my hinge is still strong.
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I want you to post another vid of you demonstrating your strong hinge but this time give the phone a little jiggle now and again. I can do everything you did in that video but my hinge is far from rigid. Im on to you!
Weak hinge isnt bothering me though, although im certain this phone wouldn't survive a fall if the keyboard flops out on impact. I love the phone... keyboard could be better as you stated but im getting more used to it. The phone feels incomplete without wifi tether, but otherwise I love it.
Good screen size, good battery, good OS, good specs , good data speeds, good aesthetics.
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sinistersai4d4d said:
I want you to post another vid of you demonstrating your strong hinge but this time give the phone a little jiggle now and again. I can do everything you did in that video but my hinge is far from rigid. Im on to you!
Weak hinge isnt bothering me though, although im certain this phone wouldn't survive a fall if the keyboard flops out on impact. I love the phone... keyboard could be better as you stated but im getting more used to it. The phone feels incomplete without wifi tether, but otherwise I love it.
Good screen size, good battery, good OS, good specs , good data speeds, good aesthetics.
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No I will not. Why would I shake it? Why would I shake any phone? That would only damage my hinges and make them more prone to looseness. That video was a realistic demonstration for practical usage. I will not demonstrate anything unrealistic.

Yes, thank you

I love this phone coming from the HTC HD2 running android and a G1. The g2 is super fast, looks beautiful, perfect feel in my hand, my hinge is solid not loose at all. Can't complain so far best phone I've ever got my hands on.
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This phone is great. It's actually my first "smartphone."
I don't have any problems. My first time using an onscreen keyboard, and it's a huge learning curve for me though. I rarely use the physical key board.
I don't have that hinge problem. From day 1 I've had a case and I still haven't taken my screen protector off yet lol. I received my phone Oct. 3.
Stock Android FTFW. Holla.
I want to make a video for everyone about my phone, not sure what though.
And this phone is living up to the hype. The GMAIL integration makes my life a lot easier. Saving things to my SD card is simple.

I love the phone! It's a fantastic upgrade to my old G1. The only hardware option that I'd like is the notification LED off of the G1.
As far as software changes, I would only ask for 1 of two options.
option 1, phone comes with root accessibility.
option 2, phone comes with the ability to connect to IPSEC VPN, perform WIFI tether, and directly access my wpa_supplicant.conf file.
If I had either one of those things, it would be perfect
To me, these things are minor enough (and the root thing is (sort of) and will be solved). I love the phone.

Arcadia310 said:
No I will not. Why would I shake it? Why would I shake any phone? That would only damage my hinges and make them more prone to looseness. That video was a realistic demonstration for practical usage. I will not demonstrate anything unrealistic.
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Yo man just checked out your video about the hinges. My phone has a strong hing IMO. If I'm laying down my screen will slide down. But like you said in the video, I will have to NOT be touching the screen, because naturally, I would have my fingers holding it in place. When the screen is closed, I hold it upside down - No problem.
I'm coming from Verizon and I must say, the T-Mobile call quality is nothing compared to Verizon. One of your vids you mention how you can just take a few steps and your bars will change, go in and out of Edge or HSPA. That's not necessarily a G2 issue.
I dig this phone, and I've already rocked a couple of my friends smart phones. Holla

I have my third G2 coming the first of the week. So far both of the first two had loose hinge issues and terrible reception. In the same exact place I tested the signal strength with my Nexus One and Vibrant and the G2. The G2 was not even in the ball park. I do like the phone and believe it has tremendous potential. Other issues I have had include wall papers changing by them selves. Calls not ringing in and voice mail not registering. And the most irritating dropped calls. Just by picking up the device it would launch an application and deploying the keyboard will start up apps randomly. I did not touch the screen in any way when these things occur. Tried to launch Goggle Googles and a black screen came up and when I tried to back out it went to Google Earth. So far I am not overly impressed although as I stated previously that I do like the phone. If the thrid one has the same problems i will return it and wait to see what happens. I am hoping it will not as there is just something about this phone which appeals to me.

G2 + Vibrants screen(Amoled) = Game Over.
- Fly like a G2

That would be Perfect!!!!

Check out my video I just made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RZKHq6e1Ds

I am very happy with my phone. No problems with it whatsoever. It's everything I expected and more!
My hinge is somewhere in the middle between tight and loose. The screen will sometimes drop down if I hold the phone upside down without touching they keyboard. I have been using it heavily and have not had any problems with the hinge in normal use - keyboard open or closed - so it is a complete non-issue for me. I feel this is how it was designed to work.
The phone is blazing fast an the camera and video look great. No rebooting issues and reception is pretty good. I came from a Moto Cliq and the battery life and reception are both better on the G2.
tenbeau said:
I have my third G2 coming the first of the week. So far both of the first two had loose hinge issues and terrible reception.
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I have some of those sticky antennas that go behind your battery on order. You can get a 5 pack of them on Amazon for $5 shipped. I noticed an improvement on my Cliq after installing one, so I'm willing to bet it will help. I don't have any reception problems, but it's always good to have more bars. You just have to make sure to stick it directly where the internal antenna is.
Anybody know exactly where the antenna is in this phone?
Anyways... I want to say thanks for all the knowledgeable people on this board who helped me learn a lot about this device.

only issue is samoled is a samsung exclusive. regular amoled has too much glare. plus slcd is cheaper.

I had a couple reservations getting it, but I have to say I love this phone! I went from a G1 to Nexus One and now G2. This phone feels like a Nexus One but with a physical keyboard. I'm hanging onto my N1 as a companion/backup.
The G2 made me realize how much I missed having a physical keyboard....plus the radio and GPS on it seems to be superior to the N1....also being in a HSPA+ area is always a plus too.
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TheManCityLife said:
Yo man just checked out your video about the hinges. My phone has a strong hing IMO. If I'm laying down my screen will slide down. But like you said in the video, I will have to NOT be touching the screen, because naturally, I would have my fingers holding it in place. When the screen is closed, I hold it upside down - No problem.
I'm coming from Verizon and I must say, the T-Mobile call quality is nothing compared to Verizon. One of your vids you mention how you can just take a few steps and your bars will change, go in and out of Edge or HSPA. That's not necessarily a G2 issue.
I dig this phone, and I've already rocked a couple of my friends smart phones. Holla
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Yeah that's definitely a problem with T-Mobile; I believe I mention that in the video. I can remember 2 years ago when I had a Sidekick I would get horrible signal while inside of buildings. I would be in class and have no signal. Now with the G2 I can walk literally 10 feet and my signal will fluctuate like crazy.

I'm sending mine back and sticking with my G1 for the following reasons:
1) In the upper right corner of market, it has a link to TMobile apps instead of my Downloads (I so hate them for that!)
2) I hate the hardware keyboard / hinge slider.
a) slider slides closed while holding and typing fast
b) impossible to type < or > with hardware keyboard (even with SYM key software popup).
c) Keys too wide and letters off-center.
d) No number row sucks, too much use of function key.
e) Although the touch pad is about the same as the rolly-ball, they both suck compared to 4 arrow keys on the keyboard.
f) I also prefer the 4 function keys as hard keys instead of softkeys.
3) Battery is worse then G1 in edge-case areas (2G/3G), but I do admit battery is better then G1 in solid 3G area.
4) Notification lights. I have not known about many missed calls/texts that I would have seen much earlier using my G1.
5) Although I love the proximity sensor in theory, I guess I don't hold my phone correctly for it because I have already hit keys while talking more than I have in 2 years with the G1.
6) microUSB port on left side instead of bottom makes it impossible to hold the phone while it is charging (I am left handed).
7) Buggy, I've had a few crashes, and the camera got stuck running or something once because barcode scanner claimed it was in use and even after I tried to kill everything the battery drained from 60% to 0% within like 15 min in my pocket. Also had apps like Google Earth and some root apps lockup.
8) External speaker sounds tinny as hell.
9) You can't swap the microSD card without removing the battery.
10) Too expensive... I'll wait until my contract is fully up in march so I get a better discount, but I'm hoping there is a better GSM phone my then. If the Epic 4G worked on TMobile (or if Sprint worked at my house), I would take that over the G2 in a second purely for the better hardware keyboard design.
After all is said and done and you get CM6 or some other custom rom on your phone, all Android phones are basically the same, other than design and speed. G1 is dog slow, but it can still do EVERYTHING the G2 can, as can any other rooted Android phone. (except play flash as well, G1 hacks for flash are still lacking)

I am completely happy with my G2. I haven't had any major issues whatsoever, and I wouldn't trade it for anything else currently on the market. There is also nothing in the near future that I've seen (MyTouch HD, WP7, etc.) that will make me regret buying the G2. My next phone will likely be the G3!
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EVO owner having second thoughts on keeping the N-S

I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.

Zorachus said:
I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
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It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .

Anderdroid said:
It's only worth keeping if you're gonna sell the Evo.
Either way they both are strong phones I'd say. However I myself would stick with the pure Google. I'm never going to anything else ever again lol. Waiting for handset updates is the most frustrating thing ever.
As for dropping it. I once dropped my Vibrant. Walked into a water hydrant (yes). The back flew off, as did the battery and the SD card (which I didn't notice had shot out). Either way, it had minor scuffs on the bezel and battery cover after this. Bezel is easy to replace and battery cover is easy to replace. Screen was still flawless. What did I lose? A 16gb class 6 SD card full of source code backups. Good thing the Nexus S has internal storage, .
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Good point, I did buy the N-S for the "pure" Android experience, and not having to run custom roms/themes, and million downloads and installs, just to get what this gives me right out of the box, stock. And with all those custom roms, and stuff, the EVO seemed a little more sluggish to me, than stock Sense UI.
Plus this screen is just so awesome, I love it. And really like the thinness and light weight of it compared to the heavy EVO.

Looks you are actually having second thoughts on keeping T-Mobile rather than device.

I've been on TMobile since 1998 and I don't think I've ever experienced a dropped call. Sprint as my work phone the last two years and never had one either. What happens? Phone just hangs up? Just bizarre to me
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As long as you don't break the screen it should be very durable. The great thing about a plastic housing is that you can treat it like crap--a replacement back will probably run $5-$10, which is cheaper than any case you can buy. Metal phone housings are tres nice, but you're always paranoid about scratching or denting it (which, besides bringing tears to your eyes, lowers resale value).
My philosophy has always been that since I look at the screen and hold the housing, I'd prefer a phone with a great screen over a great housing (it's nice to have both, but you right now you have to choose).
That being said, I'd stick to the Evo. An Android phone loses the majority of its functionality if you can't get a signal, so in your case the Evo is the better choice (or get an Epic, which has SAMOLED and the same CPU/GPU as NS).
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You own an Evo already. Its the most feature rich phone on the market. NS is awesome for me. But if I had to choose just one id keep my Evo
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The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.

Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me the most. I have an office in the basement, and sometimes down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone never worked down here, or maybe 10% at best, Sprint was 75% and very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 30-40%, not terrible, I do get some texts down here, but not great like Sprint either.
I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.

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Hopefully within the next few days custom kernels will start cranking out and someone will port the WiFi calling app from the G2 or the MT4G which should help resolve your issue with your office. Assuming you have a wifi connection, that is.
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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?

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Yes I have WiFi in my basement Office, and real work Office, I am a computer gamer junky, build my own Eyefinity systems
But not familiar with WiFi calling ? How does that work ?
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instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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unremarked said:
instead of using the signal from the cell towers to make phone calls, it will use your wifi connection. It still uses your voice plan and thus costs minutes but its useful for situations like yours.
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That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.

Zorachus said:
That's a brilliant idea. Will that be a market app, or must be rooted first I would assume to download and use that ? Then that would solve my biggest problem I had with T-Mobile, sometimes getting bad reception inside home or office.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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It will require root because the WiFi app I speak of doesn't work on the Nexus S right now. It will require a custom kernel in order to port it over so it should happen within the next few days or so I'd imagine.
In the interest of fairness, there is one downside to it. The app won't switch dynamically, which means if you start a call on wifi and walk out of range, the call will drop period. Even if you walk into an area with absolutely perfect coverage.
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Thanks for the info, but that kind of sucks then, if it drops the call cold turkey once you walk out of the WiFi range ? Phone hardware can't handle the smooth transition from WiFi to cellular at the same time I guess ?

I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.

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What do you mean by this? The Nexus S is running raw 2.3. No theme or bloat. This is the purest experience straight from Google. No more waiting on HTC/Sprint to get their act together or relying on Cyanogen and crew to make sure everything is working on thier build. Personally, I can't go back to my EVO after experiencing the screen and weight of the Nexus. The EVO just feels like a rock now, and I'm very satisfied with T-Mobile's data speeds over Sprint.
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Today after 3 days with the Nexus-S, I agree with you. My EVO feels heavy like a brick now, and the screen color is so washed out and bland compared to Super AMOLED< no comparison. Plus the battery life on the N-S does seem to be much better than the EVO's so far. And the icing on the cake, T-Mobile is cheaper per month, for me a good $30 cheaper.
Plus T-Mobile seems to be the best Android carrier, they seem to get the best and latest phones pretty quick. They were first ever Android carrier with the G1, and then the first with the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S. And I prefer the "Nexus" idea, getting the untainted OS, sort of like Apple with the iPhone. Just buy a new Nexus every Christmas to have the latest and most pure Android phone.
Sure there will be new dual core faster phones early next year. I rather wait for the Nexus-3, by then dual core will be done beta testing on other phones, and the Android OS will be really optimized for it by next Winter. I wait for the dual core Nexus, not the any ol dual core coming out right away next year, no thank on the bugs and issues that may pop up. For now I am a happy Nexus owner. Will just plan to buy a new Nexus every year for now.

Zorachus said:
I have a rooted, with Cm 6.1 stable mod, EVO 4G. I hated the battery life on it, and it was a bit heavy in the shirt pocket. And T-Mobile is cheaper per month, by approx $30.
So I bought the Nexus-S yesterday morning, and set the EVO in a drawer. Now having it almost two days, I am really digging it, especially out of the plastic case, it feels so thin and feather light. And the Super AMOLED screen is drool worthy.
But a few things have been worrying me, I am afraid if this thing gets dropped, not sure it will handle a beating. And T-Mobile while good service, I did have a few dropped calls already, and flaky internet connections. I was pretty surprised by how near perfect Sprint has been these past 6 months I have been with the EVO, it is extremely rare to get a dropped call, and just spot on full bars everywhere in Chicago, and even in my basement Office, where ATT or T-Mo never worked there, only Sprint has been able to find a connection in Basement.
I pulled out my EVO, and I have both phones setup almost exactly the same, same live wallpaper, same widgets, and apps, clock. My EVO looks just like the raw 2.3, due to Cyanogen 6.1. Anyways, I was playing around with them both, side by side, and now undecided if I should keep the Nexus-S, they both feel almost the same.
I will say the Nexus-S is slightly snappier and a wee bit faster, and sure does feels nice in the hand and on the face with no case. The Nexus looks sweet with the cool screen technology. But is it worth the $600 I paid to have it out with no contract ?
One thing I did like about the EVO, was how flat and big it was, sure I didn't like the heavy thick feel of the EVO, but the large screen was easier for texting, the keyboard was big and nice to type on, the N-S with the curved screen, makes the keyboard look really small to me compared to the EVO.
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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?

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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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Personally, I find the Nexus to be the perfect size after using the EVO for so long. Often times I found myself having to stretch my hand to reach the notification bar, and the phone just seems too wide now. As far as the "build quality," my EVO's had unattractive light leakage from day one while the Nexus is perfect in every way. I think a lot of people have gotten stuck in the "heavier = better quality" rut. Just because the Nexus is light doesn't mean it isn't solid.

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I'm in the EXACT same boat. I left TMO in june to get the EVO, and now I just switched back to get the NS. I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it. On the one hand, I love the weight and size of the EVO. It's the number one reason I got it. Th3 4.3" screen is awesome for texting and videos. However, the LCD blows. 4g is alright, but I never use it because the battery on the EVO sucks so bad already.
On The other hand, the NS is pure google, which with the rate custom ROMs get ported over these days, isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure 2.3 will get ported to all the other major phones within 2 weeks. The AMOLED screen is AMAZING. But the overall size and feel of the phone and screen are a bit prohibitive at the moment. Coming from such a big phone, the downgrade is def noticeable. Also, the phone feels...delicate. I'm scared to set it down.
The 1ghz Hummingbird processor FLYS. In side by sibe comparison with my EVO running CM 6.1, the NS always manages to open each app faster and scroll smoother.
So what's a guy to do? Keep the NS and compromise size and 4g to be on the bleeding edge of software development and better battery life? Or keep the EVO and stay with superior build quality while having a couple chargers on hand?
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I will make final decision by Monday, after a full weekend with the Nexus-S, but leaning on keeping her
Nexus-S;
- T-Mobile is cheaper, almost $30 per month.
- Super AMOLED screen is amazing
- Lightweight and compact size easy to keep in shirt pocket, but still good size 4" screen
- Hummingbird processor is smoother at pulling apps and scrolling, not choppy
- Pure Android OS, no need for major custom roms, will get Honeycomb right away
EVO;
- Large 4.3" screen is easier to text on, and read
- Sprint service might be slightly better than T-Mobile
- 4G ( but never used but a few times, major battery )

Zorachus said:
The longer I have this Nexus-S, the happier I am with it. It is just T-Mobile that concerns me, need a little more time with it. I have an office in the basement, and down here get crap reception. ATT on the iPhone rarely worked down here, or maybe 25% at best, Sprint was 90% reception, very good, and T-Mobile so far seems to be 75%, not too bad, I do get most texts down here right away, but not near perfect like Sprint either.
The EVO battery life was my #1 reason for looking for a different phone, it was horrible, and every smartphone review, always listed it dead last place for battery life, and the iPhone4 at the top. When reading reviews of the N-S, what sold me was that it is supposed to be closer to iPhone 4 battery life, and much better than EVO. So far after 3 days that seems to be true.
With this Nexus-S, I need to wear my sons bib around this screen, I am drooling all over it And I do like the lightweight and compact size, fits into a shirt pocket easily without weighing it down. The EVO in comparison was a brick, and would never fit in a shirt pocket, without weigh down and falling out almost. Even in Summer when wearing shorts, the EVO felt like a brick in the pocket, almost making your shorts droop. But I did like the large flat 4.3" screen on the EVO, that size is sweet, and easy to text, with the on screen keyboard. Just the colors blew on that phone, very washed out and way too much white light bleed.
I would LOVE the EVO, if it had a Super AMOLED screen, or something close to it, and if they could reduce the thickness and weight. And of course design it to use the less battery power, and last a whole day like the iPhone4 or N-S. Other than that, the EVO is a great phone. But T-Mobile pricing helped sweeten the deal. I need the full unlimited packages, I run my own business, and on phone most of the day sometimes, so minutes is a must, plus texting and data. The T-Mobile plan is a good $35 cheaper per month than Sprint, on exact same plan, and I have no contract to be stuck on, with T-Mobile So if there is a Nexus-M this summer/fall by Motorola, or they might call it the Nexus-3.0 for Honeycomb Android 3.0 OS, I might get that.
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Be aware that AMOLED can be a serious battery killer. Try to play Angry Birds and you'll know what I am saying.
480*800*3(color per pixel) light together can draw power like crazy.

Post your Xperia Play gripes and annoyances

Nothing in this world is perfect, we all know that.
What annoying you about your Xperia Play? Anything from little tiny niggles to other bugs. Discuss and see if we have any fixes
(Btw I love this phone and by no means am I slagging it off, these are little annoyances )
I'll start:
The sliding screen wobbles a little
My volume slider has a small imperfection that makes for a slight pointy feel on the bottom
When using Bluetooth headphones, turning them off before stopping the music crashes the phone and forces a reboot (Bug)
Right trigger feels more loose than the left
None of these really affect how the phone functions, they just annoy me a bit
What you guys got?

I think the only thing that has really annoyed me is the auto-dim. That thing is ridiculously sensitive.
If I wanted to get really picky - when the game pad has been slid out the right side of the screen sags a little lower than the left side.

I'm annoyed with the lack of L2 and R2 buttons, it limits the phone's emulation capabilities a whole lot.
I would do with a livelier screen, I feel the colors are so bland now in comparison with my old Galaxy S...
The back cover is jokingly frail, and the SD card doesn't work if you remove it... I'm thinking of getting a spare one.

My issues:
1) Stock camera app instead of the Arc's
2) R-trigger much more lose than the left
3) Back cover is too difficult to remove, and feels like it will break at any moment.
4) Bottom of phone squeeks on the back panel/battery cover
5) Phone's reception is very disappointing
6) Camera/Video capabilities are extremely disappointing
7) Lacks backlit keys under screen
8) Notification light in a less than ideal location
9) 512MB RAM chokes at times
10) Headphone jack and usb port on side of phone; need to be on the top and bottom repsectively
11) Auto-dim needs the option to be turned off (like on almost every other phone available!)
12) Phone takes quite a while to charge to 100%
13) Volume button is difficult to press while holding the phone vertically; not easy to feel +/- without looking

i dont really have any of them problems lol.
only thing annoys me is 512 ram
also i dont know what ive done but i dont have the autobrightness either. it stays on whatever brightness i set it to onthe power control widget :/ it also tells me 2.3.2 is the latest update tho lol

Well, I've had a nose around and the wobbly screen can be sorted with the mouse slider pads you have on the bottom of your mouse, just stick a few onto the back.
With the auto brightness I am confident the up coming CM7 Rom in development that it will be added.

TehH4rRy said:
Well, I've had a nose around and the wobbly screen can be sorted with the mouse slider pads you have on the bottom of your mouse, just stick a few onto the back.
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This is actually quite ingenious!! Can't believe I never thought of that. My play hasn't had this problem yet but I know it will eventually, the OG droid had it big time and was the reason I gave up on that phone and moved over to the Dinc.
For people complaining about the auto brightness and general screen brightness issues, are you aware of the factor installed "screen protector" thats on the play? I haven't done it yet but apparently you can easily remove it and make the screen much brighter, more responsive and less like to have auto brightness issues. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094245

Frogybloop said:
This is actually quite ingenious!! Can't believe I never thought of that. My play hasn't had this problem yet but I know it will eventually, the OG droid had it big time and was the reason I gave up on that phone and moved over to the Dinc.
For people complaining about the auto brightness and general screen brightness issues, are you aware of the factor installed "screen protector" thats on the play? I haven't done it yet but apparently you can easily remove it and make the screen much brighter, more responsive and less like to have auto brightness issues. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094245
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What are mouse slider pads?

Logseman said:
I'm annoyed with the lack of L2 and R2 buttons, it limits the phone's emulation capabilities a whole lot.
I would do with a livelier screen, I feel the colors are so bland now in comparison with my old Galaxy S...
The back cover is jokingly frail, and the SD card doesn't work if you remove it... I'm thinking of getting a spare one.
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This except for the screen. I owned a Captivate with the SAMOLED and loved it but I just came from a Desire HD so this screen is amazing compared to it.
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1) Stock email not accepting security certificates from exchange meaning the arc / play is not business ready. Htc, iphone, bb all do this.
2) Screen is a joke in the sun. No two ways about it. Whenever I try to show off the plays gaming to my friends, seeing them squint / struggle to see the screen embrasses a little. Also us it me or does this Screen just love attracting smudges. I spend so much time cleaning it ;-)
3) touch screen sensitivity. Never had problem typing on the iphones screen. On this I just can't help missing. On the iphone, I think due to it needing electric charge from finger it was a lot more accurate. On this the first tiny tap of one my fat fingers selects the letter. Generally either to the side or above the one I need. Ok I use swype to remedy this, but don,t help when selecting links in the web
4) loose screen clinking away typing.
5) screen brightness flickering away, even with protector removed.
6) force close, hanging when using messaging and dialer pisses me off also.
7) wireless flaky as hell. drops for noreason. i..e connected but with limited connectivity. No other device does this in my home, three lappy's, one iphone 3gs, one ps3, one xbox, one wii, psp. All work fine ( not on the same time obviously) Why the hell does my xplay just drop for no reasson.
Other than that I am well happy.
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1. Screen is too dark. Unusable in any type of sunlight.
2. Graphically intensive games lag like a *****.
3. The phone also lags at times.
4. Sometimes loses wi-fi for no reason.
5. Signal drops out sometimes.
6. DPAD is too close to the upper part of the phone meaning you can't use flat of your thumb. Making it very difficult and uncomfortable to use 'up' in games that require a lot of 'up' movements. eg. beat em ups, football, 1942 style shoot em ups, rpg etc.
7. Screen isn't most sensitive or accurate. My Iphone 2g was better.
8. No HD recording. WHY?!
9. Poor battery.
10. Auto dim is stupid.
Apart from that, I love the phone and wouldn't change it for the world. I am a gamer first, I will always choose a pad over the above.

No issues whatsoever for me because i research into other peoples fixes for any problems i have,
and can i point out for everyone complaining about auto brightness,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085086&highlight=auto+brightness
Enjoy

This is my first smartphone...so a lot of this is new and exciting to me...but ether are a few things..
0. No root for r800x!!!!! Lol
1. No hdmi our like my girlfriends droid x.
2. Ergonomics...hand cramping when gaming.
3. I always have to physically look fire the volume.
4. Ram.
5. triangle and up buttons are a bit close to the screen...it would be nice to have an option for backlit
Buttons...despite the mediocre battery life.
All if this in no particular order. I love the phone as its kind if been my pspa nail in the coffin...since I used my psp mostly for emulation.... Rip psp.
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nelly_boy said:
2) Screen is a joke in the sun. No two ways about it. Whenever I try to show off the plays gaming to my friends, seeing them squint / struggle to see the screen embrasses a little. Also us it me or does this Screen just love attracting smudges. I spend so much time cleaning it ;-)
3) touch screen sensitivity. Never had problem typing on the iphones screen. On this I just can't help missing. On the iphone, I think due to it needing electric charge from finger it was a lot more accurate. On this the first tiny tap of one my fat fingers selects the letter. Generally either to the side or above the one I need. Ok I use swype to remedy this, but don,t help when selecting links in the web
7) wireless flaky as hell. drops for noreason. i..e connected but with limited connectivity. No other device does this in my home, three lappy's, one iphone 3gs, one ps3, one xbox, one wii, psp. All work fine ( not on the same time obviously) Why the hell does my xplay just drop for no reasson.
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I have these problems as well as a LOT of Wi-fi issues. It is the only device of the many i have that has wi-fi problems.
I also have problems internal memory being way to small. I love collecting games I have well over 400 on my Ipad and under 20 on my x Play and the internal memory keeps getting lower and lower. I'm going to be forced to root soon.
And lastly the volume buttons suck and are hard to push if you are in a hurry to turn it down. For instance it you have the volume up loud from home and your timer goes off in the middle of an important meeting. LOL

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14940589#post14940589
Where I got the Mouse Slider pad idea from. Made a big improvement on my phone when I close it, Might stick two more on.
And yes the only camera I had to hand was my phone

R button less responsive than L
Brightness a little dark
Impossible to desactivate auto brightness
Coulours very poor than my old Desire
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dunno what everyone's talking about, I've no problems at all! ha, guess I got lucky! Well, I lied, I've 2 small ones, but nothing to write home about.
Minor issue with wifi dropping, but have found that it usually occurs where the reception is kinda iffy
And my screen SLIGHTLY wobbles...but I'm not too fussed about that!

mastertiti2000 said:
Impossible to desactivate auto brightness
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One way was just posted like 3 posts up.
I don't have a lot of gripes left. Fixed the crappy typing issue with a new keyboard, and taking off the screen protector. Fixed my no screen off animation issue, fixed the buggy sony launcher for launcher pro, and most my other gripes.
Only things left are
notification light position sucks
I miss my amoled display (indoors anyway)
I don't see the big deal with ram, Android doesn't really need more than 512mb. The reason you only see 140mb free at idle is cause it caches the bajeesus out of your commonly used apps. If it needs more ram it can and will make room. I personally have not seen any significant lag in games from lack of ram.
And someone said poor battery??? This phone has amazing battery life compared to most smart phones.

I know...battery is amazing compared to my Desire HD.
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Well I came from a epic 4g and well I am not use to on screen keyboard so I mistype a lot of words lol,
Phone comes at a good speed besides start up which my epic was rooted with speed rom.
I allways lose service for no reason.
Wifi I havent had a problem
Havent had any slow down on anyp games yet,
Battery is sooooo much better then my epic I had to chargd it every 5 hours and this phone not until the next morning.
Other then that I love this phone
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