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the cam in the 1.6 version is really horrible and very slow. ist that better in the 2.1 version? Thanx
stalker1981 said:
the cam in the 1.6 version is really horrible and very slow. ist that better in the 2.1 version? Thanx
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I am running the 1.6 and i would say the camera is very good better than any camera i ever had on any HTC device. But the camera is a lot better in 2.1 i have read
lufc said:
I am running the 1.6 and i would say the camera is very good better than any camera i ever had on any HTC device. But the camera is a lot better in 2.1 i have read
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well I have HD2 also, and the cam is pretty good. but on the 1.6 of my Streak is the shutter lag really terrible. much slower as of the HD2...and the flash is very poor... If the quality doesnt get better in 2.1 i will have to send the Streak back
Does anyone know if the dell streak will allow you to keep the flash on while recording video? Any difference in this from 1.6 vs 2.1 or if it makes a difference?
Also, I know it's off topic but can you watch youtube videos in HQ in the youtube app?
The camera has been improved, but not by much. At least it's usable now though.
The 720p filming is pretty damn good though
and yes, you can watch HQ videos in the youtube app.
Meltus said:
The camera has been improved, but not by much. At least it's usable now though.
The 720p filming is pretty damn good though
and yes, you can watch HQ videos in the youtube app.
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Thanks Meltus, How about having the flash on while recording video. I know that is mainly a froyo thing but some devices with 2.1 have implimented it so though it may be possible on a new device. One can dream..
Also, was the 720p only added with the 2.1 update?
I have also heard horror stories about the keyboard on 2.1. That is probably the only thing keeping me from forcing this update. How do you like the keyboard with the 2.1 update?
The camera is slightly better, but the app is now hideous. It really is ugly and far less usable. However we should remember the leaked ROM is beta at best, its not an official release.
Raspster said:
Thanks Meltus, How about having the flash on while recording video. I know that is mainly a froyo thing but some devices with 2.1 have implimented it so though it may be possible on a new device. One can dream..
Also, was the 720p only added with the 2.1 update?
I have also heard horror stories about the keyboard on 2.1. That is probably the only thing keeping me from forcing this update. How do you like the keyboard with the 2.1 update?
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No, there's no flash (will probably come with 2.2) and they've also got rid of the zoom-before-you-film, which is annoying.
Yes, 720p was only added with the 2.1 beta leak.
They keyboard isn't as bad as everyone says, whilst it is a HUGE step backwards it is still usable (i use swype anyway, so it doesn't bother me).
But the camera layout is now dreadful, because when you go into the settings menu and select something, you cannot then go back to change something else, you have to close the settings menu then re-open it, which is VERY annoying.
Market flash just got an update, no change log. It might now work with tegra as per what they said on their last update.
Anyone have time to check this now?
works a treat! Cheers.
Lennyuk said:
Market flash just got an update, no change log. It might now work with tegra as per what they said on their last update.
Anyone have time to check this now?
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dunno but people are commenting on the market, that the update broke flash.
It would help if there was a changelog on the market.
Can you please post the apk here?
Thanks
I don't believe this works that well, the video quality is poor compared to the current version of flash I have installed, its as if its optimised for smaller screens and scaled up, as far as I can see flash player has no settings - can anyone else comment on this?
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I don't believe this works that well, the video quality is poor compared to the current version of flash I have installed, its as if its optimised for smaller screens and scaled up, as far as I can see flash player has no settings - can anyone else comment on this?
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Strange from my experience the quality is the same if not better and the videos loads far faster and are much more responsive to touch inputs.
I figured this needs a new thread since the others have been derailed by people trying to update!
1) Speed, finally a speedup! The lockscreen is faster, switching apps is faster, the browser is faster (scrolling/zooming/flash video/scrolling with flash video open) , the launcher is faster... I could go on and on about how fast it is now.
2) Smooth 720p flash video playback
3) Mouse support, tried it out and it works great!
4) Joystick support is cool but no apps seem to support it yet, it doesn't show up as a general input device as I had hoped, you have to specifically program for the joystick api I believe.
5) Resizable widgets! Even this operation is silky smooth
6) Scrollable app switching
does it address the wifi driver leak? better yet, documentation or release notes on this update?
Nice post. Thanks for the information. I speak for nearly everyone who at this time hasn't received the update when I say I can't wait to get my hands on 3.1 on my rooted Xoom!
I, for one, am most excited about the following: resizable widgets, mouse support (btw - what kind of mouse are you using? bluetooth or usb/wired?), and most importantly the overall speed-up and bug fixes (such as smoother 720p video playback) across the entire Android Honeycomb OS.
Kudos to Google for knocking it out of the park with this one. Maybe nothing absolutely groundbreaking or super innovative, but all we really wanted anyway was a quality level of polish added to the amazing base OS we already had. That's what we're getting with 3.1. Yay.
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does it address the wifi driver leak? better yet, documentation or release notes on this update?
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There's documentation/changelog posted on the Android developer blog. Look it up. It lists every change in paragraph, essay form (instead of the usuall bullet point list associated with most changelogs).
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how do you resize the Widgets? I've been trying this for an hour.
The quick launch controls for the browser have been updated as well. Very cool. You can scroll pages using the controls without having to scroll up the page.
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how do you resize the Widgets? I've been trying this for an hour.
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It only works on list widgets, like the email and bookmark widgets. Hold down on the widget like you're going to move it and then set it back down.
For those who had tested 3.1 in their Xoom's, there is a improvement in 720p & 1080p video files?
I have the Asus Transformer and wondering about that stuff, since the Xoom owners are the first receiving 3.1
Any video hardware acceleration?
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For those who had tested 3.1 in their Xoom's, there is a improvement in 720p & 1080p video files?
I have the Asus Transformer and wondering about that stuff, since the Xoom owners are the first receiving 3.1
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I don't think that's any different, but I've only tried non high profile video. Still can't play .avi natively.
Thanks. Did anyone notice the Google stock movie app is no longer installed?
GorfinG said:
Thanks. Did anyone notice the Google stock movie app is no longer installed?
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I've always only had the gallery app to play movies. The movie rental program is called 'videos'
Edit: Speaking of which, the Videos app has a 'Personal Videos' tab, which shows all of your videos in a nicer display than the gallery app... nice!
sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?
I noticed the broken shortcut for movie studio on the desktop but then opened the apps drawer and the icon there opened it right up. Take a look see if it works for you.
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sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?
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I still have that app
GorfinG said:
sorry, meant the stock movie studio app. To edit videos. Wonder if this was changed for Google movies?
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I still have that app
is portrait mode slow or is there a speed increase?
also has the auto rotate sped up?
If 720p YouTube videos are this smooth in the browser, I can't wait to get an overclock kernel on this thing!
Is there italian language in the 3.1 us rom?
uk release?
When is this hitting the uk? Mine isn't available yet.
>Is there italian language in the 3.1 us rom?
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1.html (scroll to bottom)
Make sure you update - though it might updated automatically. (it did for me)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/12/flash-player-10-3-hits-android-with-optimizations-bug-fixes-apl/
I just had to open the market, it was set to auto update, but didn't start till I selected my apps and saw the update listed.
I'm at work right and can't bust out my tablet ATM. Hows it like? 720p work on youtube now?
cdkizzle said:
I'm at work right and can't bust out my tablet ATM. Hows it like? 720p work on youtube now?
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Go to the bathroom to download, but instead download Flash 10.3 to your tab. You never took a 15 minute nap on the crapper?
muqali said:
Go to the bathroom to download, but instead download Flash 10.3 to your tab. You never took a 15 minute nap on the crapper?
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I just got this bad-boy yesterday, I haven't even christened my own bathroom with it yet
I hear that. I went so far as to speak to the store manager at Best Buy here to ask if he could "special order" a Transformer for me. The distribution channel software they use doesn't even have the SKU in it yet. It's on their website, but not in their distro system. I was a sad panda.
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I'm at work right and can't bust out my tablet ATM. Hows it like? 720p work on youtube now?
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On the desktop site, 720p is as choppy as ever.
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I don't think the update would just fix all of our performance issues, but at least provide better compatibility. I think our future honeycomb updates (look at me being optimistic) will help with the chop.
Ya 720 looks about the same to me. Smooth but sometimes can stutter when there's a lot of variance in the shot.
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I don't think the update would just fix all of our performance issues, but at least provide better compatibility. I think our future honeycomb updates (look at me being optimistic) will help with the chop.
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This. I think they'll need to tap into the nvidia hardware more to enable better video performance. It's interesting to note that they added NEON support for CPUs that support it(ours doesn't afaik). How much those instructions will help I don't know.
Something to look forward to in flash 11.1 I'm sure...
dhruvmp said:
Something to look forward to in flash 11.1 I'm sure...
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No, I mean nvidia will have to work with the manufacturers to include better optimized kernel/user code for the tegra to take advantage of the dual core and the graphics hardware better. Hopefully nvidia has 3.1 as well and is adding their pieces to the pie as we speak.
a big drop in performance with flash 10.3
I
don't know if anyone sees the same, but for me, adobe flash 10.3 is a lot worse than 10.2.
I am in germany and looked videos on www.golem.de. With 10.2 there have been nearly smooth. Now with 10.3 they become a picture view, no longer video.
(Yes I compared the same videos, coding can't be different.)
I think they broke the nvidea integration and HC was not the focus of this update, but 10.2 was.
My recomandation:
So if you didn't update so far, don't do it!!!!
Andy
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don't know if anyone sees the same, but for me, adobe flash 10.3 is a lot worse than 10.2.
I am in germany and looked videos on www.golem.de. With 10.2 there have been nearly smooth. Now with 10.3 they become a picture view, no longer video.
(Yes I compared the same videos, coding can't be different.)
I think they broke the nvidea integration and HC was not the focus of this update, but 10.2 was.
My recomandation:
So if you didn't update so far, don't do it!!!!
Andy
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I have tried the site you mentioned...... no problems with 10.3! Maybe clear cache/data from your browser.
Installed successfully
You Tube and BBC iPlayer working beautifully with the updated Flash
Retested Flash 10.3; still not better
Hi again,
thanks for the tipps, tried them all.
I think it depends on the video itself.
For some odd reason, the videos in germany tends to be coded in a way, the new Flash 10.3 didn't like.
I mentioned before, all videos on Golem.de are worse, but also on spiegel.de.
I noticed a message box, saying, "This video is not optimized for mobile devices".
Never seen such a message in 10.2. Also on my HTC desire, the videos are worse, and see exactly the same behaviour.
I still see no advantages from 10.2 to 10.3. In 10.2 I never had such messages, and the videos where smooth as well. Now on a few webpages the videos are OK, but most are picture shows.
Is there anybody else how could confirm this? Can't belive I am the only one, seeing this performance drop on two different devices, and nobody else seeing this.
I read that flash10.3 is better with HC 3.1. So you see better performance?
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Flash 10.3 optimized for Android3.1
So far, Acer Iconia has only 3.0.1 HC installed, hopefully in June/Juli there would be an update.
I didn't see such an statement, do you have any reference?
Is there something in Xoom forums?
GadjetGirl59 said:
I read that flash10.3 is better with HC 3.1. So you see better performance?
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NOTE: Please check with your device manufacturer or carrier to ensure you have the latest firmware update for your device. For Android 3 tablet devices, we highly recommend that you update your OS to Android 3.1 to ensure that Flash Player delivers the best experience possible.
Come on Acer !!!
Do or problem as well ?
Some streaming site worked well with 3.0.1
...and now the video is degraded with 3.1
I got same problem. Now flash movie on web site not run smooth as 3.01.
my personal experience is the opposite, like no question here at all, on 3.0.1 i would get stutters and laggy playback, and since the 3.1 update i have seen literally no lag or stuttering playing back 720p on imbedded video playback, youtube, anything. i keep seeing all these issue posts and threads about the 3.1 update but i am personally not experiencing any of them, my browser is an snappy as my ipad's browser, games/video playback anywhere (any quality) is perfect, navigation of any part of the os is snappier than before, battery life is exactly the same, i am happy with everything, i just want to be able to root 3.1 without adb and ill be 100% happy..
XsceneXhippieX said:
my personal experience is the opposite, like no question here at all, on 3.0.1 i would get stutters and laggy playback, and since the 3.1 update i have seen literally no lag or stuttering playing back 720p on imbedded video playback, youtube, anything. i keep seeing all these issue posts and threads about the 3.1 update but i am personally not experiencing any of them, my browser is an snappy as my ipad's browser, games/video playback anywhere (any quality) is perfect, navigation of any part of the os is snappier than before, battery life is exactly the same, i am happy with everything, i just want to be able to root 3.1 without adb and ill be 100% happy..
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u can play 720p with no lag or skipping in youtube from browser? anyway u can take a video of that and post, would be helpfull. did u factory reset?
Why are you watching youtube using flash when we have an app that lets us view the video using hardware acceleration?
flash seems to have improved for me
My Flash has gotten so much worse in both the stock Browser and Dolphin that I have gone back to using my ipad1 whenever I want to access a site that has an ios version. It's strange that the degradation is only when you use the browser, not an app.
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u can play 720p with no lag or skipping in youtube from browser? anyway u can take a video of that and post, would be helpfull. did u factory reset?
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i did not factory reset, but i havent ever rooted because i wanted the 3.1 update from asus and i read about some disadvantages in primordial, but i really didnt do anything special, just the official update, and i definately meant youtube specifically from the youtube app itself, but from the browser streaming and playing 720p from imbedded videos and/or other means than youtube hasnt lagged on me either (yet** i dont have the invincible tf), the one video "provider" that just plain doesnt work is vimeo for me, i think its a flash 10.3 issue or something because when hitting play the box goes black and never plays. i was just relaying my experience, i think after an update or 2 honeycomb is really going to make apple nervous though
I can't watch ESPN videos anymore. Does anyone know why? I think it was a result of Flash 10.2 and not Honeycomb 3.1. I've done some searches, but I haven't found anything really for the transformer.
Does anyone else have this problem? It just shows up as a picture and never plays video.
SilentMobius said:
Why are you watching youtube using flash when we have an app that lets us view the video using hardware acceleration?
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you do not know that the net uses a lot of flash video with the same cuts completely different? Flash knows how to manage everything by cons if the hardware part is not done properly, Flash is degraded.
This is Flash movie with 3.0.1 and after ! 3.1
If you understand what I see.
Yes youtube work fine, but not all websites.
can you post a link to that video so we can try the same one please
no, it's a subscription service
Mine was choppy before on 3.01 and still is on 3.1, no change it seems, sux
the above pictures highlight the problem perfectly, i have a second batch transformer and upgraded after first boot to 3.1 i was also thinking steve jobs was right re flash my ipad1 pisses all over my transformer, in every video test ive done, granted its rooted\jailbroken but at this moment apart from the dull UI the only thing it cant do is read anything over a 1 gig usb stick or sd card for movies. I now find it incredible how slick the ipad is with only 256mb ram. Even google are working away from flash. Still loving my transformer, but so wanted it to be everything my desire hd is compared to the iphone 4. I have even found my self going back to my ipad for invoicing and word processing, pages and numbers are slick. Come on google, this thing has loads of horse power and is running like a vw beatle.
PaulGG said:
the above pictures highlight the problem perfectly, i have a second batch transformer and upgraded after first boot to 3.1 i was also thinking steve jobs was right re flash my ipad1 pisses all over my transformer, in every video test ive done, granted its rooted\jailbroken but at this moment apart from the dull UI the only thing it cant do is read anything over a 1 gig usb stick or sd card for movies. I now find it incredible how slick the ipad is with only 256mb ram. Even google are working away from flash. Still loving my transformer, but so wanted it to be everything my desire hd is compared to the iphone 4. I have even found my self going back to my ipad for invoicing and word processing, pages and numbers are slick. Come on google, this thing has loads of horse power and is running like a vw beatle.
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Just a quick note to the above, i have just uninstalled flash 10.3 and adobe air and my tablet is running as fast as my ipad, html5 videos are working, flash is definatley buggy on honeycomb. Even when plugins were enabled on demand it was slow. Going to have acplay with a few options.
Hello,
Following the problems encountered, I wrote the team has adobe flash. After several exchanges of mail, they understood the problem. The person I spoke with said he passed the baton to the service of development, and they would arrange to get a tablet asus to see what happens.
Hi,
That's very helpful, thanks for the information. It's definitely something we want to look into.
I've opened a bug, and I have an email into our customer engineering team to try and get a tablet to test with.
Best regards,
Jeromie Clark
Quality Engineering Manager - Flash Runtime Mobile
Adobe Systems, Inc
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It's possible to write at [email protected] for this bug.