Chefs Q&A thread - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 ROM Development

Hi all, back in the days I had a Raphael, we had a great thread going where you could ask quick cooking questions of other chefs. I am proposing that this thread be used BY CHEFS ONLY to get quick help with issues in ROM development.
I will start it off with a question of my own:
I think I may have messed up my runcc.lua file as I tried to add in the sdconfig.txt support and now whenever I boot my ROM i get a popup window that says "Error running script". I was wondering if a LUA file has to be in a particular encoding (ie Unicode, UTF-8, UTF-8 Signed etc).
I will do my best to help out people with what I know.
Regards,
B

So that went down like a sack of lead balloons! I do have another problem and not sure what caused it:
Whenever my phone goes into standby I cannot wake it and have to remove the battery to reset it. Have any other chefs had this problem?

sounds like some tweak you cooked is causing it... i had that once

After floating round the WM6.5 release thread in Dev and hacing, someone posted a link to a dumped 25005 xip that should hopefully resolve the problem (something about the rollup releases that causes issues. If it works I will let you know

Hmmm, there seems to be some incompatibilities between the 2.07 OEMXIPKernel and the newer MSXIPs that causes the device not to come out of standby. The older OEMXIPKernels seem to work just fine.
I even re-dumped the 2.07 TMo US rom to get a fresh OEM Kernel to see if I had made a mess of it at some point and no luck there
Please can anyone help out with this?

B4PJS said:
Hmmm, there seems to be some incompatibilities between the 2.07 OEMXIPKernel and the newer MSXIPs that causes the device not to come out of standby. The older OEMXIPKernels seem to work just fine.
I even re-dumped the 2.07 TMo US rom to get a fresh OEM Kernel to see if I had made a mess of it at some point and no luck there
Please can anyone help out with this?
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I think it should be something else, cos I use the 2.07 kernel with the newer msxips and there are no problems with them.
I had the same issue with my earlier kitchen. I've spent hours to find the bug, but in vain...I couldn't find out what caused the issue, so I've rebuilt my kitchen from the scratch...

seatone said:
I think it should be something else, cos I use the 2.07 kernel with the newer msxips and there are no problems with them.
I had the same issue with my earlier kitchen. I've spent hours to find the bug, but in vain...I couldn't find out what caused the issue, so I've rebuilt my kitchen from the scratch...
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Im thinking I might have to do that aswell Im trying an older build with new drivers, and new radio. If that works I might just stay at that build, I generally see not much difference between all the different builds and com branches anyway!

i doubt it is anything to do with ROM or OEM i suppose quick enough to rule them out , just disable all ext packages build a rom and see if problem is still there, ive had the same issue before im sure its one of the ext packages or a custom reg entry

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I'm raging over this phone!!11

I'm so tired of this phone right now but since my company only offers HTC phones with WinMo this is the only one that's "interesting".
It has actually worked kinda well the last month but after I changed ROM last Friday it has been totally unusable. After the ROM-change I couldn't hear anything when I made a call so I changed radio, problem solved... I thought.. The phone freezed after one hour so I had to take the battery out and when I tried to boot it again it took the phone 6-7 minutes to get past the screen with Rom and Radio information. When it got past it I got the first booting screen with the "Windows is setting up your phone" blahblah so it was like I have made a hard reset.
Ever since I have tried different ROMs and different radios but nothing helps, it keeps giving me these crazy problems. On some ROMs I'm unable to save and access my contacts etc. One thing that is persistent is the time to get pass the screen with ROM and radio information, it's really slow no matter which ROM or radio I'm on. Of course I haven't tried all ROMs and radios but around 4 ROMs and 3 radios.
Is there anything else then ROM and radio that can be updated or replaced because I'm on the edge here and I'm about to throw it in front of a car just to get rid of it.
I appreciate all the help I can get.
Hi, try out OzROM and Radio 2.08_2. This combination is very fast, stable and usefull. I have testet a very lot other Roms but OzROM is the best off all !
Never hang since 1.30, good phonequality and no big Problems.
And remember to make a hardreset after flashing !!!
HQ_seppel said:
Hi, try out OzROM and Radio 2.08_2. This combination is very fast, stable and usefull. I have testet a very lot other Roms but OzROM is the best off all !
Never hang since 1.30, good phonequality and no big Problems.
And remember to make a hardreset after flashing !!!
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Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
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How many ROM's have you flashed since you got your HD2? were they from the same Cook?
I always Flash a Stock ROM (via USB of course so I don't lose HSPL) before flashing to a new ROM by a different Cook... (so If I was on LIA, before flashing Dutty's I flash the Stock ROM, before flashing Artemis, Flash the stock ROM, before flashing Miri... and so on...)
If I want to get a truly clean device, I do a task 29 via mtty, which is akin to formatting your PC before you install a new OS.
Try mtty, its fast, easy and the results are proven (head over to the stickied mtty thread on HD2 ROM Development)
mtty
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
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might be time to mtty mate while you still can becarefull downgrading the 2.0.8 roms some people are having problems read the site about those
DJGurth said:
might be time to mtty mate while you still can becarefull downgrading the 2.0.8 roms some people are having problems read the site about those
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one of the reasons I have never flashed a custom ROM...the stock rom may have bugs but I have found that custom ROMS have so many more!!
I've yet to find a stable one, so now I don't bother with them...pity as they do have some nice features, but I can't live with the drawbacks
If its a company phone and, I assume, you use it for business purposes in the main and it was working ok, why did you upgrade the rom with the risk that you might break something?
How much reading have you done on here? Have you looked at the Hints & Tips thread fpr fixes or the "HD2 died- or did it" thread that deals specifically with the lockup issue?
If you are a secret rom junkie, flashing roms every 5 minutes, are you aware of the issues with doing so and the need for MTTY?
I tend to be very helpful to people in trouble; however I am struggling to understand why you fiddled around with a business phone that appears to be critical to you and was, as I understand it, working perfectly beforehand?
WB
scanie said:
Thanks for the reply. I will test what you suggested but I don't have that much hope
I always hard reset after flashing.
Edit: is this the radio you suggest: 2.08.50.08_2 ?
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Jes thats it, you can download it on the OzRom Site
If you get Duttys HG ROM from my sig radio 2.08 is included so no extra flashing needed
In addition to the other recommendations in this thread (mtty/stock rom, etc.), I would recommend you stick to the 6.5 series (21xxx) rather than 6.5.x (23xxx) for added stability and speed.
wacky.banana said:
If its a company phone and, I assume, you use it for business purposes in the main and it was working ok, why did you upgrade the rom with the risk that you might break something?
How much reading have you done on here? Have you looked at the Hints & Tips thread fpr fixes or the "HD2 died- or did it" thread that deals specifically with the lockup issue?
If you are a secret rom junkie, flashing roms every 5 minutes, are you aware of the issues with doing so and the need for MTTY?
I tend to be very helpful to people in trouble; however I am struggling to understand why you fiddled around with a business phone that appears to be critical to you and was, as I understand it, working perfectly beforehand?
WB
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Yes its a company phone and yes it worked "ok" after trying different custom ROMs. But I think that a phone in this price class should be working perfectly and not just ok. That's why I tend to flash a new ROM once in a while, because I want perfection. And we all know that HTC won't give us that.
Even though the last working ROM was ok, there still were some issues that didn't affect my daily use but that bugged me a bit, that's why I wanted to try a newer ROM.
I don't know that much about MTTY but I will look into it now. Thanks for the heads up.
no device will give you perfection - it's impossible as everyone has different perceptions of perfection
EddyOS said:
no device will give you perfection - it's impossible as everyone has different perceptions of perfection
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True, but all programs and features that's implemented in the phone should work as designed. If they don't, the device isn't perfect imo.
Do you know how many issues Apple fix with the iPhone each week? All phones have issues, all PCs have issues, anything to do with tech has issues!!
End of the day you either try and fix it, send it back or wait for HTC to fix it (although some issues may be down to M$ themselves)...
LeoLite 2.3 with radio 2.08.50.08_2 is sweet!
The ROMeOS ROM is great as well - head to romeos.monx.biz for that one...
MTTY
I'd reiterate the advice about the MTTY, my device was utterly corrupted and flashing didn't help. After a MTTY format its back to 100%. Choose your ROM's carefully though, i still had some stability issues with some of the more exotic ROM's (even after a MTTY), I ended up choosing something closer to stock (Dutty) which was rock solid.

GPS issue (Solution found but reason is unkown) Please read and post your knowlege

Hello everyone. I've beeing seying alot of people saying that before a ROM worked with a radio edition , wich GPS worked perfectly and later stoped working, and i decided to study the case in order to know, why is it working.
I've been testing diferent ROMs and Radios.
We've got the radio editions:
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.10.18
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.08.29
Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.07.29
And according to an article wich i read here on the forum, teoricly we can use any radio, and the phone wont brickitself.
So i've been using a radio 6.35.08.29, and tested on a ROM wich required the radio 6.35.10.18. As predicted nothing bad happened, worked perfectly . But when i tried the GPS it didnt work. Anyways i decided to test a ROM wich required a 6.35.07.29 radio. Happened the same thing. GPS didnt work.
I Flashed 6.35.07.29 radio on that rom. GPS worked without any problem. I changed radio again to 6.35.08.29 GPS didnt work again.
Once again i went back to my original ROM, and happened that my GPS didnt work, wich before have worked, like the situation most of us encounter here at the forum.
What can we conclude from this?
In my opinion, there are files from the radio wich when we make a backup or even install a new rom, wich wont complete the system instalation of the radio, and you'll have to reflash the radio edition compatible with the ROM you just instaled.
Another theory is that after installing an incompatible ROM, GPS is turned off automaticly .
Anyways, i would like to know your experience and your opinion, i'm sure here are people wich know more about this then i do
Thank you. Best regards everyone!
anyone?
This would be very interesting stuff if it could be proven correct.
Sent from my HTC Magic running Smoki using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Thanks for the reply. i know. Also this would help to avoid bricks and unecessary procedures. The porpuse of this threat is to understand what makes this happen in orther to avoid, and make everything functional.
I have no idea whether this makes sense or not. I also don't agree that "Solution found" (as in the topic) - rom cooks usually don't state the required radio version beyond 6.35.whatever or the equivalent for old radio, I don't know about any of them being aware of such a (hypothetical) requirement.
My understanding was that the different 6.35 variants are regional editions, and that using the wrong one for your part of the world might make your cellular telephony and/or networking operate suboptimally. Not that I have seen any proof that this actually happens. I guess nobody knows whether the radio stores persistent state of any sort, but I suppose somebody familiar with the kernel source might know whether anything the kernel does depends on the radio version (or minor version). Otherwise the radio requirement would stem only from the origin of the RIL libs and libgps, right?
I don't know much about any of this, so the above is just guesswork. Hopefully someone more informed will contribute to this thread.
drbobb said:
I have no idea whether this makes sense or not. I also don't agree that "Solution found" (as in the topic) - rom cooks usually don't state the required radio version beyond 6.35.whatever or the equivalent for old radio, I don't know about any of them being aware of such a (hypothetical) requirement.
My understanding was that the different 6.35 variants are regional editions, and that using the wrong one for your part of the world might make your cellular telephony and/or networking operate suboptimally. Not that I have seen any proof that this actually happens. I guess nobody knows whether the radio stores persistent state of any sort, but I suppose somebody familiar with the kernel source might know whether anything the kernel does depends on the radio version (or minor version). Otherwise the radio requirement would stem only from the origin of the RIL libs and libgps, right?
I don't know much about any of this, so the above is just guesswork. Hopefully someone more informed will contribute to this thread.
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I think you are right. Each version is about the region i didnt remember we had diferent GSM frequency around the globe.
what confuded me was that there was ROMS wich Devs said that in order to work we should have their Radio edition. Is this a real problem if we use other radio?
please I would request more cooperation on this post . Thank you!
The same thing happened to me today. I had tried a 2.1 ROM and returned to my 1,5 CursorSense and my GPS would not work. I found that reflashing the Radio cleared up the problem. There are several posts in the CursorSense thread that describe the problem and fix.
wjsturgis3 said:
The same thing happened to me today. I had tried a 2.1 ROM and returned to my 1,5 CursorSense and my GPS would not work. I found that reflashing the Radio cleared up the problem. There are several posts in the CursorSense thread that describe the problem and fix.
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whats the fix provided? Could you please redirect me to that fix? Thank you
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whats the fix provided? Could you please redirect me to that fix? Thank you
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Do a search on the CursorSense ROM Thread for GPS:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592856
thanks i didnt know there was a button search for thread. Very helpfull, i've been searching i found no fix. But if there is i must find out to see if is related.
Just confirmed something, this patch is not related to the GPS fix. GPS wont find location unless you reflash the rom of the location wich the rom was made for. Wich respects again this teory. I would request if possible someone to assist in this ! thanks
anyone? Big please?
i request again more knowlege please
It worked for me!
I went to 2.1 roms, then switched back to Cursorsense and lost GPS, so I reflashed Radio_HTC_PVT_32A_6.35.10.18 and it works!
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so... if i understand... we must flash each of those versions to see witch works?
mine works but only after using gps status aplication to get a fix
Draken Korin said:
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
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How in the world is this not dev related???
Dont know ask the mods lol
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Manila 1.9 to 2.5

I just got a TP2 and it has Manila 1.9 on it still. I'd like to upgrade to version 2.5 but don't want to mess anything up. Can I just install 2.5 or do I have to work my way up to it? Any help would be appreciated, as well as a link to the version or versions I have to use...
No, You need a rom with 2.5 cooked into it. Check out the rom thread over at PPC Geeks.
shane6374 said:
No, You need a rom with 2.5 cooked into it. Check out the rom thread over at PPC Geeks.
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And why not the ROM thread here at xda?
Thanks for the replies. I'm pretty shady about flashing my ROM as I'm never done it before. I'm not computer illiterate, just haven't attempted anything like this on a phone yet. I have no problems with cabs or registry edits. My main goal is to get Max Manila on the phone. Would someone please give me step by step instructions with links? I just see too many version specific things and don't want to install the wrong thing and brick my phone. I have a US Cellular Touch Pro 2, ROM version 2.01.5733. I'd like to stay as close to the original as possible, just add Manila 2.5....
Any help is always appreciated...
[Edit] I do have Manila 2.1 on there now also.....
There isnt a way to "hot swap" sense because its built in to the Windows infrastructure because Sense has so much control over the phone. The only solution here is to flash a new rom. The steps are EXTREMELY simple.
the thread for such a thing is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
if retaining stock apps or anything is your main issue, then perhaps you can make good friends with one of the Chefs and they could throw something together for you
buru898 said:
And why not the ROM thread here at xda?
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True, True. Nothing against the rom thread here. I have a CDMA TP2 and just like the one over at PPC. I loved it here when I had the Vogue.
ShawnDobie said:
Thanks for the replies. I'm pretty shady about flashing my ROM as I'm never done it before. I'm not computer illiterate, just haven't attempted anything like this on a phone yet. I have no problems with cabs or registry edits. My main goal is to get Max Manila on the phone. Would someone please give me step by step instructions with links? I just see too many version specific things and don't want to install the wrong thing and brick my phone. I have a US Cellular Touch Pro 2, ROM version 2.01.5733. I'd like to stay as close to the original as possible, just add Manila 2.5....
Any help is always appreciated...
[Edit] I do have Manila 2.1 on there now also.....
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That's how we all started. It's kinda like crack in a way. Once you start, you can't stop. Since you're already doing reg edits, you one step away from flashing roms. There are a lot of great cooks in these forums that are willing to help answer questions. These guys build some great roms that truly enhance the value and usability of your phone.
Heh PPCGeeks is also a good place ;p.
You could always just install the Sense 2.5 cab over your sense 1.9? I use the Sense 2.1 cab (sooooo much smoother) and my ROM has no manila in it from the start and it runs flawlessly.
Okay, I finally have the time to play with this. I think I have the files but just want to ask to make sure. When I was reading up on this before, I thought I read somewhere about unlocking you sim card or something like that, but couldn't find that now. I've downloaded RhodiumW HardSPL and Energy Ron 23121. Can someone just verify that's all I need? From what I found I just run the HardSPL while hooked up via ActioveSync, and it should go from there. Once done I open the rom file and run the Custom RUU file. Am I missing anything?

(SOLVED)Hiss and Echo during calls

I have tried every combination of rom + radio suggested and none has worked for me. I then found a thread saying it was a problem with the kernel.
Does anyone know if there is a fix in the pipeline for this?? If it even is a problem in the kernel.
Or is there some radio+rom combination i have not tried?
please someone help i would like to use android all the time, as it is i have to keep rebooting to make a phone call
longobongo said:
I have tried every combination of rom + radio suggested and none has worked for me. I then found a thread saying it was a problem with the kernel.
Does anyone know if there is a fix in the pipeline for this?? If it even is a problem in the kernel.
Or is there some radio+rom combination i have not tried?
please someone help i would like to use android all the time, as it is i have to keep rebooting to make a phone call
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Why don't you just wait? It seems like everybody's forgotten that Android is still in development.
Save your time and effort figuring out which combo may be the best for Android just to find out that WinMo is still more reliable in everyday use and that you just screwed your WinMo config for nothing more than an Android alpha, which just won't work the way you'd like it to do.
That's the way I look at things.
SOLVED!!
Latest zImage solves this problem so anyone wanting to know how to fix this...
download latest zImage from cotulla (cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/Cotulla_zImage_VOLUME_SR_AUD.rar)
extract zImage and copy to SD card overwriting the one already present, also keep an eye out for your particular port's author updating their work. They will most likely include this and possibly some other fixes.

[Q] WinMo6.5 for an old device

Hello!
One of my friends brought me an old Yakumo delta 300 GPS 2L PDA from Germany, to install a new WinMo on it.
Does anybody know how to do it? I really know nothing about doing such things, and all I could find about updating such a device was a german forum, with outdated links.
It would be very important for me! Thanks!
to build a 6.5rom for those devices u should make many files
one of the most importantes is NK.EXE that u can easily put that in ur rom with new Ervius kitchen
Problem is that I don't know how to do so. I have no experience in Windows Mobile, that's why I am asking for your help.
fonix232 said:
Problem is that I don't know how to do so. I have no experience in Windows Mobile, that's why I am asking for your help.
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Its not so simple since you aren't exprenced with Windows Mobile devices. Its highly possible to brick the device easily if something goes wrong.
First the device should be CID unlocked so that you can flash custom ROMs.
Second you will need to find custom ROMs for it or else if you want to cook, you either need to get a stock ROM of it so that you can dump it, replace its files (i.e SYS and XIP), recook it using suitable kitchens, finally flash it but its not over. There are many thing to do. And I say again its possible to brick the device if something goes wrong.
I would better suggest to stay with what ever it has.
Since HTC is very popular, we research lot and minimize risks before doing anything but your device seems very old and not known much so its risky job.
As Mr.zeus said, NK.EXE is just a part or file of/in the kernel aka XIP. You will need many things to cook a ROM. Stock ROM of your device would be good for start.
Thanks...
Best Regards
Well, thank you very much.
Then looks like, I am shot here :S
Can you please give me any navigation system what should work on this device, and has maps for Hungary, Germany, Austria?
i can tell u one thing...my htc wizard is running wm6.5.3...so it is quite possible to hav new os on old fone.....

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