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Seidio/Mugen/Mobi? Which Extended Battery for Tilt/Kaiser?

Hi-
I apologize if this has already been asked. I *DID* search around this site, several others and even Google but no one seems to have posted a comparison of extended battery compatibility along with pros/cons of the expanded battery cover backing...
So, like everyone else, my Tilt doesn't last overnight w/o a recharge. In looking at my options for extended batteries, it looks like the largest are the Mugen 3000, the Seidio 3200 and the Mobi 3000.
I'm curious as to peoples opinions on these major points:
1-Duration coupled with whether the battery causes lock-ups/freezes or other errors for the phone...
2-How the revised back cover of the phone compares to the OEM cover with respect to the camera lens, speaker and GPS.
3-Cases and cradle chargers that will work w/ extended battery covers...
4-Tweaks or other hacks needed for the Tilt to recognize the extended battery time.
Thanks everyone in advance!!
M

Instead of other I think you should have put the option of " I dont know". I think people clicked for the sake of clicking to see the results quicker. My 2 cents.

extended battery
I have a Boxwave 2700 mah and a Seidio 1600 mah battery. The boxwave is from Taiwan with a humped back cover, so I can use my Seido holster, but will not fit in my cradle. Does fit into my Brodit car holder though, and the full backed extended battery cover will as well.
I cannot for the life of me get the correct battery reserve power reading correct. I have tried every tweak and twitch I have read and perused the registry for settings not mentioned elseware, as well as various 3rd party battery utilities, to no avail. Quite frustrating, as I can alarm on low battery, pull it out, put it back in and have 45-60% battery left on the meter. Don't know what else to do, as it does it with my 1600 and 2700 and did it with a "borrowed' Mugen 3000 for a test. Tried all the reccomendations of running it fully down and doing recharge, all that stuff, still wrong indicaitons of remaining power.
This is my greatest frustration right now with the Tilt I have and the other 8 I have bought for employees.
MWS

wow! im having the same problem!
got the mugen 3000 and the reading is always off!
I cant find any solutions!

I ordered the Seidio 3200 battery and tried charging it in my AT&T 8925 Tilt. I left it on charge until the light turn Green.
Starting using it and within 8 hours I was at LOW battery and system died. I removed the battery and put it back in and the battery indicated goes up to 73%.
What is the deal here. Is it my phone that does not understand that it has a larger battery or is it the battery. Since that time I have sent the battery and got a new one and the same thing.
Is there some software utility to tell the Pocket PC that it has a larger battery.
Confused....????...!!!!

Wow, so...
As I sit here perusing options for replacement Wizard and Kaiser batteries (my sister's phone and my own...) I suddenly fear the pointlessness of choosing an extended battery! Has any headway been made on these extended battery glitches in general?

Nope. The Tilt's hardware always expects the standard battery's capacity, and will turn off when that is reached even if the battery is actually twice the capacity and is still half full.

So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? Well, glad I read this thread, I won't waste my money.

Yep. However you can remove/reinsert the battery and have more running time again. But then in that case as you have to turn the device off and open the case anyway you're better off getting a 2nd standard battery and swapping it when it's empty. Saves you from having a Kaiser that's twice as thick for nothing.

What About....
Well, I think one objective would be to try charging it as often as possible. It may be that if you plug it back into a charger, it will grant an extension of time. But in the event you are unable to charge it, you could simply remove and reinsert the battery to continue on. Has anyone tried this? I'm curious to know.

"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.

mileskb said:
"So what you're saying is buying an extended battery is useless because it will shut off at the regular Tilt battery level? "
Could someone please clarify this as I find it confusing as well, I'm just using the times and percent for reference to understand.
Lets say with the stock battery it takes 8 hours to get to 40%.
Will an extended battery like those listed give me longer, like maybe 10-12 hours before it gets to 40%?
I too have searched and read everything from people swearing to get no extra time at all no matter what they do, to people getting double the talk/data time and everything in between, including but not limited to that the usable time gets longer with each recharge. If I'm going to have to take the battery out 3 times a day, I might as well just get 4 or 5 extra stock sized batteries for the same price.
Looking for someone to clear the fog...
Thanks in advance.
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Take a read from my post on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336896&page=2
Battery 2700mAh:
"Full discharge removed battery and replaced and gained 10% so not that much of a difference no where near 50%
So effectively i have 2435mAh battery & 10% reserve so still far better than a 1350mAh."

I wish aztilt would have posted which battery he/she has.
aztilt said:
I am one of those that is very happy with the extended battery because the duration from turn on to auto shut off by the phone is at least 3 hours longer than the OEM battery for my usage. I don't have to think about charging the battery or swapping the battery until I get home at night from work. And there is still the option of remove and reinstall the battery if I don't want to charge it right away. I rarely if never need to do the latter.
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If I could get 3 more hours before shut-down, that might be worth it. It would mean 90% of the time, I'd get 12 hours of use as long as I didn't need the GPS. It would have meant last week I would have not spent an extra 30 minutes on ice because the GPS quit with less than a mile to go, but I didn't know which way, and I had not way to charge it, so I spent an extra 45 minutes trying to find the highway home when it was time to leave. Just 3 extra hours would have been perfect.
I can't tell you how many times an extra 30 minutes even would have made all the difference in the world, and I really can't think of a time when I needed more than a couple hours.
I realize I'm playing to its weakness. I rarely use the phone itself, but I'm always in email, rss feeds, web browsing, listening to music and using the GPS.
If an extended battery will get me through a normal workday without having to rush home to charge it... That would make me a happy camper.

I have the Mugen 3000

I have the seidio 3200 and after i fully charged it for the first time use, I use it for like 12 hours of txt, calls, internet and normally at the end of the 12 hours i have about 20% of battery left. Just mainly depends on what ROM your using, what radio your using and what programs you have running. Just because 5 people have the same battery doesnt mean all 5 people use their phones for the same thing. Best thing i found is find the one with the highest battery life and go with it.

Anyone know how well this extended battery does?

Anyone have any idea how good this extended battery is for the Tilt?
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door
Product Details:
HTC Li-ion Extended Capacity Battery with Black Extended Battery Door:
The aftermarket AT&T Tilt li-ion battery includes a black extended battery door. This AT&T Tilt Battery requires two to three complete charge cycles to reach full performance and is rated at 2400 mAh. The AT&T Tilt Extended battery is the perfect extra or AT&T Tilt replacement battery.
Compatible with: HTC 8925 / AT&T Tilt / TyTN II / HTC Kaiser
Is this one good or does it have issues like the others that have been mentioned with the power readings?
Just curious cause could really use an extended battery and would like a reliable one, if there is any.
Thanks,
Flandrel

Tilt Extended Battery?
I have heard some mixed stories about some of the extended batteries from actualy users.
First looking at the 2800 size battery:
http://www.amazon.com/AT-Tilt-Elect...=wl_it_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"This larger battery lasts about 1.5x longer, so around 15 hours (or more, I haven't let it drain completely, yet). This wasn't a huge increase, but it does let me use the phone for roughly a full work day. My usage includes push e-mail during the day, with numerous incoming and outgoing text messages, and maybe 30 minutes of talk time.
Charge time is excellent in my opinion, it took around two hours to charge the battery from 20% to 100%. "
Next I was looking at the 3200 size battery but couldn't understand why the price on these were so much higher than the 2800 for the little extra run time that you are getting.
http://www.amazon.com/Mugen-3000mAh...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
"PROS:
- the battery fits in the phone perfect
- the new back cover given is high quality, fits nicely, and looks great
- the new battery and back cover combo makes the phone thicker, obviously, but it is not over-bearing and easily noticable to others
CONS:
- just one, but it is a big one. so, the original battery is 1350mAh, right? well, that wasn't getting it done at all. we're talking 8-10 hours a charge with minimal phone calls. i do have exhange push email and another pop email that i am checking. that is most of the battery drain i imagine. fine, so i saw this and thought, "perfect, 3000mAh! this should get me a whole lot more time". well, as i finding out, not really. to be fair, i am getting more time. i would say 12, maybe 14 hours. a net gained of 4 hours. that seems strange to me for a battery that is 2.5 times as big. anyway, just want to give you a heads up so there isn't too much disappointment. PS - i did the whole "battery training" thing where i charge it all the way up, ran it all the way down....etc. 4 days in a row. "
So hope that helps...
I just hope this with an emergency charger, http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Charg...UTF8&coliid=IR8PJ5939FJ0L&colid=3UMYZBAJT4AYL
helps me get a full day with my unit...If this doesn't help I might consider the Iphone because I hear that is getting a full day of juice with one charged regular battery.

i was useing a 2400ma extended battery it worked good other than the door would catch on the part where the extended battery was sticking out pop the door off knock the battery out and turn off my phone. it was such a pain in the butt that i decided that i would rather charge my phone everyday than look in my holster to find my phone had been turned off for who knows how long. i was thinking about getting this battery though next time i feel like i have money to blow. http://www.amazon.com/1600mAh-Exten...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1226420513&sr=8-1

I bought the 2800 Mah battery. And it came with a ugly back door so i order the nice door that looks similar to the orignial cover. Well the 2800 works better and last longer. it mite last longer n better if you have a custom firmware. cuz im running the 6.1 n i heard the battery dies fast from it. But with the extended battery my phone dosent die fast.

is 1500mAh battery worth it?

hey guys, posting up on here asking anyone if they know if the 1500mAh seidio battery is worth buying, as im reading reviews i see TONS of mixed ones, thats why i came on here to ask everyone on XDA if they know a little more info than just "this battery is a good spare one" and how it compares to the original OEM 1350mAh battery
looking forward to hear from everyone
thnx!
http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innoce..._1_3?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1259815040&sr=8-3

Yes, it is worth the money- good investment. I bought mine a few months ago on ebay. I didn't want a battery that required a special backcover. With the 1500mAh Seidio battery you can keep your same cover. I did notice a good amount of juice. But I would recommend to install these 3 apps to make it even better:
NueDynamicClock
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
You can safely underclock it. It gives you three options; power saving, default and max. With power saving mode, you can gain more battery power. I have tried the default setting...my battery goes down fast...you can immediately tell the difference.
CodyBear's ASkicker
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528141
With this app, you can finally stop ActiveSync from constantly running in your background stealing precious power.
Glight
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440665
This great app controls my backlight to adjust to its environment. It uses the phone's sensor and does a decent job.
The outcome:
With my OEM battery, it would drained within 4 hours...just of normal use. With my Seidio 1500mAh battery and these apps installed- i get 9 hours of normal use. By the way, the battery still heats up. But I am content.

Depending on how much you can find them for and if you mind a little extra bulk, but I would say go for the 2000mAh battery like this one.
I got this one a while back and its been great. It adds a little thickness since it requires a special cover, but its the rubberized one, unlike the slick one that came with the Fuze.
I'm not a heavy user by any means. I have Exchange pushing emails, do some texting and a few short calls. With the OEM battery, I would be down to about 40% at the end of about 15 hours. With the 2000mAh battery, I'm rarely below 80% after the same usage in 15 hours.
So if you can live with the 2mm extra thickness and don't mind spending about $10 more, I would go for the 2000mAh battery.

Battery Options for EVO

So right now I have some choices:
Go with a Seidio Innocell 3500mAh that will be about 60 bucks through Amazon that has a massive hump in the back.
Go with a solar power battery of some sort (they have 3500 mAh batteries online)
Go with cheap backup batteries.
Try recharging the battery in the method that HTC recommended.
What do you guys think?

Just curious...why? As a backup or did you have a problem with your battery?

I'd cop an extra battery, I hate the added bulk but that's just me.

beesneazy said:
I'd cop an extra battery, I hate the added bulk but that's just me.
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+1, they are not expensive either, though I do think the actual EVO battery cost more than a Touch Pro or TP2 battery, which, by coincidence, are the same as the stock EVO battery....

I want a new or extra battery because:
Even with all the phone setting tweaks, my battery life is still pathetic. I want something I can run the phone normally with, without having to worry about my battery going dead.
And my phone did not receive the new update, which supposedly helps the battery life out.

nbakid2000 said:
I want a new or extra battery because:
Even with all the phone setting tweaks, my battery life is still pathetic. I want something I can run the phone normally with, without having to worry about my battery going dead.
And my phone did not receive the new update, which supposedly helps the battery life out.
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How bad battery life you getting? I am able to get around 12-15 hours of use which is pretty good for me.

It seemed to be doing better, lasting longer than before but today, I pulled it off the charger, it was at full battery. Then I had it sit there for about an hour and half maybe (doing nothing) and I looked and all the sudden it's down to just over half battery life.
I'm not sure what's going on. Before the Network setting change, I couldn't even use the phone for 20 minutes without the thing dropping to 75% charge. After that it lasted much much longer, except for today.

Jye75 said:
+1, they are not expensive either, though I do think the actual EVO battery cost more than a Touch Pro or TP2 battery, which, by coincidence, are the same as the stock EVO battery....
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hah yeah , definitely need to get an extra battery. I want a yellow battery like in that HD Mini!

I am convinced that there was a bad batch off Evo batteries. You might find that another 1500mah solves your issues.
Also, be careful with the 3rd party 2000mah battery as it is reported to have a real world capacity off approx 1100mah!!
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nbakid2000 said:
So right now I have some choices:
Go with a Seidio Innocell 3500mAh that will be about 60 bucks through Amazon that has a massive hump in the back.
Go with a solar power battery of some sort (they have 3500 mAh batteries online)
Go with cheap backup batteries.
Try recharging the battery in the method that HTC recommended.
What do you guys think?
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60 will get you 12 aftermarket tp2 batteries and 6 multi function battery chargers, batteries rated at 1500 but I don't believe they are actually that high, I'm standing at 7 hours of above moderate use on one, would easily last me through a day of work at normal use. THIS IS OFF EBAY. These batteries have not been conditioned by me yet, so I'll do that and test again.

[Q] Time to buy a new battery?

I've really loved my Nexus 4, except the battery life is just awful. I've used different kernels, undervolted, switched to 2G, turned brightness down and everything else you can do with the software to get more out of the battery.
Since I bought it used, I'm thinking maybe the battery is a little old and could use replacing. Is there a way to tell before I waste any money buying another stock battery? Like a sensor on the battery that tells you how healthy the battery is and if it still holds a good charge?
Also, are there any options for extended batteries besides the Mugen extended battery case? It's almost as much as I paid for the phone!
Thanks for any suggestions

Provide some screenshots from Betterbatterystats or Wakelock detector after using the phone from a full charge to the point before ready to recharge .

v1nsai said:
I've really loved my Nexus 4, except the battery life is just awful. I've used different kernels, undervolted, switched to 2G, turned brightness down and everything else you can do with the software to get more out of the battery.
Since I bought it used, I'm thinking maybe the battery is a little old and could use replacing. Is there a way to tell before I waste any money buying another stock battery? Like a sensor on the battery that tells you how healthy the battery is and if it still holds a good charge?
Also, are there any options for extended batteries besides the Mugen extended battery case? It's almost as much as I paid for the phone!
Thanks for any suggestions
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yes I need too , but i cant trust exented batteries on ebay or amazon , any suggestion from this forum ?