Hi everybody!
Could someone having the HD2 answer these questions:
While using the device's GPS over longer time (>1 hour), does the device get as hot as the HTC Touch Diamond? I'm asking that question, because on Diamond after some hours of using the GPS (charging cable in car plugged), the device gets so hot, that the battery doesn't charge any longer. And suddenly your device gets off, although its plugged for charging through cigarrete lighter.
Are there lag problems like with the HTC touch diamond?
Thanks for your replies!
Chris
GPS is one of my primary uses for my smartphones. Over the past 2 years, I have used a Diamond, Diamond 2 and now the HD2. My main GPS software is GMXT.
Yes, in the case of the Diamond, overheating was an issue with extended GPS use. It was significantly better in the case of TD2. Although I have not had the opportunity to use the HD2 on GPS for extended periods, I would guess it would be better than the TD2 - in terms of heat. I think it is a simple case of better dissipation of heat - since the body surface area have gone significantly larger from Diamond, to TD2, to HD2.
In terms of lag, I believe all smartphones will have some form of GPS lag, given its in-built GPSr. However I`m glad to say that the HD2 is extremely fast in getting a sat lock; much faster than the other 2 phones. And a 4.3" screen? It`s very legible when mounted in your car.
Yeah I used GMXT on my nokia 5800 and now on HD2 and for me HD2 is the best phone for gps because of the large screen, good gps processor and it has quickgps. Gmxt on HD2 displays position very accurately during navigation. A little heat issues but none so severe like the diamond.
I was using Garmin mobile XT on HTC Touch HD. It overheated it so much that the screen stopped responding. I had to be serviced afterwards.
HD 2 moderately heats, (but no problem at all) I guess the stronger processor has to do with it.
Something to consider:
The HTC car charger used for the older phones, with mini USB, had an output rating of 2A. While the newer HTC charger for the HD2, with micro USB, has an output rating of 1A.
Thanks for your replies!
So as far as i understood it correct, it is possible to use GPS with the HD2 endless while charger cable is connected in the car?
Something to consider:
The HTC car charger used for the older phones, with mini USB, had an output rating of 2A. While the newer HTC charger for the HD2, with micro USB, has an output rating of 1A.
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I already used a 600mA charger for the car, heating is the same as with a 1A charger...
HD 2 moderately heats, (but no problem at all) I guess the stronger processor has to do with it.
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I don't understand the logic. HD2 has a 1GH processor, while the HD has only 500Mh (half of the HD2) -> HD2 should get much hotter. But as far as i understood now, thats not case...
I'm pretty sure the heat has much more to do with the battery being constantly charged than with cpu usage...I guess a way to find out would be to use the GPS for one hour without charging (provided that the battery doesn't get drained before the hour is up
and then again one hour with the battery being charged and compare heat.
OK, I try to explain the known situation of my/the HTC Touch Diamond:
Using GPS (with IGO) about maximally one hour ist possible. Device gets verry hot, but thats no problem. But using GPS for a longer time (more than one hour, what's not verry unusual) forces you to charge the battery. Normally you won't start plugging the charging cable while driving. So i plug it in before my drive. Normally you would expect, that in that case the battery never gets empty, because it's permanently charging (for examle like a notebook, which's battery is in and is connected to a power source). But the problem is, that after some time the device gets so hot, that the emergency mechanism of the battery stops charging to prevent battery damage (or even explosion). The reason why the battery of the Touch Diamond gets so hot is, that the Processor is directly above the battery.
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I'm pretty sure the heat has much more to do with the battery being constantly charged than with cpu usage...I guess a way to find out would be to use the GPS for one hour without charging (provided that the battery doesn't get drained before the hour is up
and then again one hour with the battery being charged and compare heat.
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You're right charging heats the battery up. In combination with a already heated battery through the processor and considering that in summer the temperature can be high and even more heating up the battery by charging... after some time the mentioned battery protection mechanism prevents further charging and after some time the device gets off because there is no more power in the battery although it's connected to a power source...
Because of this issue and under consideration that i'm driving a lot and neet a Mobile GPS device which i can use even for 24 hours, i'm thinking about buying the HTC HD2. Therefore i need to know if the device gets so hot, that the battery stops charging after some time by using the GPS?
Can somebody definetly acknowledge or deny this?
Well, I have had no problems so far relating to heat. I have had problems with current consumption - I have a 500mA rated charger/fm transmitter... was fine with my old Mio, but after ~2min of iGo8 usage, HD2 warns me charging voltage is too low (sure, if too much current is drawn, the RC oscillator of the DC voltage regulation circuit gets out of proper operation). Use a decent charger and you won't have problems.
I was running the HD2 with Glympse for around 7 hours this past Wednesday and it was working perfectly the whole time. It was plugged into the charger constantly and while the device was warm it was no more warm than after a prolonged webbrowsing or gaming session.
Could be that using Co-Pilot or something similar would stress the CPU more than Glympse did but I doubt we would run into any issues of overheating either way.
IGO and Battery charge
1. If you use the IGO when the battery was fully charged before (green light) the HTC will work without any problems.
2. If you direct your aircondition to windshield and cool the HTC it will work fine.
3. I have TYTN II and HD2 and both off them have the same problem with battery charging when using IGO (without a work arround that I described above)
I used my HD2 with IGO8 constantly for 3hrs whilst on a long drive. I had it plugged in with charger the whole time. Whilst it worked fine for the journey, it did get incredibly hot, almost too hot to touch! and when I closed IGO8 the phone was very unresponsive and lagging constantly even though nothing was running, so I ended up switching it off for a few mins to cool down. Worked fine on restart.
Using GPS causes freeze
I am now using energy ROM
radio 2.07.50_2
everytime i use GPS, the device just freeze and the only way to restart is to take out the battery, if it did not freeze, I cannot lock up on any satellites, problem still present after flashing another ROM/Radio/HardReset
any solutions?
hd2
same story.. before HD2 I've had a Diamond that after half hour of charging + GPS it was very hot and it wouldn't charge. On Leo I've noticed that if it's charged 50% and I am plugin to the car charger it still gets hot , I charge it for about 1 hour (trip duration) and after 1 second I'm plugin it out, the battery drops from 100% to 83%.
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Hello all,
I'm experience a little trouble by WMWifiRouter.
I think I find a power management bug because this behavior is very weird.
When run WMWifiRouter and the phone is plugged in by AC Outlet, sometimes it will trigger discharge mode. So, my phone will be plugged into the wall and at the same time it will be draining the battery down to 0% from full charge very rapidly.
It only occurs if WMWifiRouter is running - so the wifi will be on, BUT even if I shut down WMWifiRouter and switch off hard switch wifi on side of phone, my phone will remain in discharge mode until I reboot the phone.
When the phone reaches 0% capacity it will shut down even though it is plugged in by wall.
This occurs with wall adapter, USB cable, and XV6700 car charger. All the same.
Since the battery only has a finite amount of discharge/charge cycles, I want to be very careful about this issue so I don't destroy the battery. Also, I can't use direct USB cable for tethering because every five minutes or so, I must disable ICS and then restart ICS since my computer enters USB power save mode which causes loss of connectivity, and this is a little inconvenient.
Only solution is WMWifiRouter, but by use this, my phone will discharge completely in maybe 30 minutes if I try to use it while plug to wall.
Sorry for the long post about this issue.
Hiromitsu
When your phone is plugged in, is the orange battery light flashing or steady? Normal charging should have it steady. If it is plugged in and the battery isn't charging properly (because it's too hot while wifi is on) then the light will flash, which means it isn't charging. Since it's not charging, then it's your wifi that's draining your battery.
Having wifi on makes your battery very hot, and at some point, it may stop charging.
When I use wifi and need a charge, I plug in a USB cable to my laptop. It doesn't seem to get as hot.
Overheat Mode
When using WMWifiRouter, the battery drains quickly.
1. Make sure bluetooth is off.
2. Make sure beaming is of.
3. USB charging is too slow to keep up with WifiRouter
4. Plus phone into the wall
5. Slide keyboard open to release heat quicker so the phone does not go into discharge mode.
6. Enjoy
I just tried your method Ectropian.
By plug to wall and slide open keyboard, it will dissipate heat quickly and won't enter discharge mode. So, this is a fix and I am very thankful for your help!
Hiromitsu
I have found that USB charging is fast enough to keep up. The phone overheats.under some circumstances it can even overheat during a normal phone call. Im trying to get a small fan for it. I plan on using a fat back battery cover for an extended battery,and wiring it to the battery terminals. I will drill some vent holes in it and connect it with a temperature sensor. It will add some thickness to the phone,but should not effect battery life as the fan wont turn on until it overheats.
Unfortunately the 3mm thick fan I want is only available in quantities of 200. I will probably have to go with a 5mm thick fan for now. I dont know if it will fit under the back though. Does anyone have one of the thicker batteries they could accurately measure for me?
Does anyone know how to set up a password for WMWifiRouter so it is a secure network and no one else around me can use my internet?
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5. Slide keyboard open to release heat quicker so the phone does not go into discharge mode.
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That's a good idea! Hadn't thought of that : )
Ectropian said:
When using WMWifiRouter, the battery drains quickly.
1. Make sure bluetooth is off.
2. Make sure beaming is of.
3. USB charging is too slow to keep up with WifiRouter
4. Plus phone into the wall
5. Slide keyboard open to release heat quicker so the phone does not go into discharge mode.
6. Enjoy
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In addition to these good suggestion, I have find that if you also
a.) Remove stylus from stylus slot, and
b.) Turn the phone upside down while WMWifiRouter is in use,
It will dissipate heat even quicker.
You see, stylus to the XV6800 is made by metal, so,, it conduct heat and hold it in that stylus hole. Take stylus out, heat escapes through hole instead of build up by metal stylus rod.
Also, back of keyboard is metal, so turn it up, and air pass over it and remove heat too. (Make sure keyboard is slide open when turn upside down, as previously mentioned by Ectropian. This will improve air flow to heat conducting areas.)
Hope it helps everyone else like it helped me.
Hiromitsu
weav4444 said:
Does anyone know how to set up a password for WMWifiRouter so it is a secure network and no one else around me can use my internet?
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When you setup the new adhoc connection in wilan settings/comm manager/ (need to have the wifi ant on when you do this) in wm6, you can setup the network name and key.
I want to set up my SSID next time i'm sitting in starbucks for all the people that bring their laptops.
Network name/SSID:
Ask the guy with the coolest phone you see for the network key.
read the wmwifirouter thread. Chainfire addressed this issue by making the "unattended" mode. You can and should hit the power button and turn the phone to standby while using wmwifirouter. This saves enough power so the wall charger can keep up with the drain... maybe even the usb charger. I think very few people if any agree with the opinion above that the usb charger is better. The consensus is that it's the amount of power the charger can deliver that's important more than the heat... of course more power is more heat.
Batteries charge more rapidly when they're closer to discharged. Before using the unattended mode... (could maybe happen wth an older battery too) I found that if I disconnected and reconnected power after dropping below about 70% that charging would kick back in and then be more likely to keep up.. holding the charge steady at about 70%. Above this, the charging current probably dropped below the usage current. With the unattended mode it is fine even at 100%.
Edit: Let me make this more clear. A given charger can provide more current because it has a lower internal resistance and lower voltage drop under a current load. Increased charging current increases heat which may increase resitance within the battery and charging circuits and in turn limits charging current, even if the heat isn't increasing the resistance is a sign that lot of power is being lost to resistive losses. It may be that the dominant resistance is due to the device itself, not the charger and that a better charger won't help, but it's silly to say that a better charger will make it worse.. if it's getting hotter it's only beacuase it's charging with a higher current... which is a good thing (at least until the divice is actually damaged). It may be that internal limitations keeps it from charging at a significantly higher current so the wall charger might not do significantly better, but it can't be worse... if it was worse... it wouldn't be getting hotter.. it would be cooler(because of less charging current)... unless maybe there's actually a thermal cutoff? I suppose that's a possibility... but still the end result observed should in that case be that the phone seems cooler after hitting the cutoff, albeit not charging if that's the case.
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unless maybe there's actually a thermal cutoff? I suppose that's a possibility... but still the end result observed should in that case be that the phone seems cooler after hitting the cutoff, albeit not charging if that's the case.
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There is in fact a thermal cutoff. The problem that many people,including myself experience is that while the phone is charging,and the battery is getting hotter,the phone is also producing heat. The battery gets so hot that the thermal cutoff trips and the battery stops charging. I tested this with a can of compressed air and confirmed it was a heat problem. I then placed the phone on top of a small fan,with the battery cover off and the phone ran all night long without over heating. When I dont have it on the fan it overheats,stops charging,discharges and shuts down. Opening the keyboard and removing the battery cover helps,but it does it still,it just takes longer.
Well I guess as with most things on these phones.. there are different results for different people. When mine starts flashing it doesn't seem to have cuttoff charging.. but rather just indicates it's not quite keeping up. The wall charger gets hotter.. but the flashing never happens with it.
I'm a little surprised about this strange cuttoff behavior for several reasons, but there are too many unknowns... I guess we better stick with what's observed.
The powersave battery hacks help ALOT. It's also clear that (at least with powersave hacks) the more data rate you use, the more power it uses. If yours is getting that hot "overnight", then either you aren't using the powersave hacks, your phone is broken.. you're continuoulsy downloading stuff for hours which could lead me to guess full data capacity full time, or running a server of some kind with at least some significant use. If it's something like the last two, I guess I'm not surprised some modifications are required to get that kind of steady performance out of a little pocket device. I've had actual wireless routers overheat and lock up in such conditions. It's a phone not a cisco. Still if your fan can make it into a cisco.. then that's kind of cool.
OH yeah.. also I turn down the wireless power all the way in the settings, but that actually doesn't seem that important, not sure.
I have been searching for a solution to this as well. I have all the power saving hacks and everything on my mogule and mine still overheats and eventualy dies. I found another temp solution, I put it on an ice pack and it doesn't have the problem..lol
better idea than ice pack (I know this is a year old post but owhell)
better idea,.... ice pack could void phone with H2O.
Throw tha ***** in to the freezer and call it a day!
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It's a phone not a cisco. Still if your fan can make it into a cisco.. then that's kind of cool.
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Its not a Cisco? Ive been using it like that for years. Seriously,I have.
I actually use mine in my truck and the nice thing about it is I have a phone holder that clips on the air vent. So while running WMWifiRouter on the road for our laptop I just keep the AC on the back of the phone and no heat issues or charging issues.
Does your ipaq 600 series stops charging when the unit becomes hot from "over" use.
I was using wifi for about an hour doing stuff and suddenly it stops charging using the charger. I thought the charger broke so i tried the PC's USB but same deal, won't recharge battery (LED light did not light up)
I shutdown the ppc let it cool off then it works again (recharging).
Has this ever happened to you?
no I haven't been let my ipaq be hot enough to have that happen. But then i guess it is a protective measure, you don't want your ipaq explode when charging anyway lol
how hot was your ipaq?
it has an operating temp of -10 to 55° C
i would assume all functions of the ipaq will stil work while within this range, so unless your ipaq was hotter than 55c it should still charge.
Remove the cover and see if the battary feels hot? maybe your battary is no good? (which would also explain your other posts of short battary life)
yes i have the same problem on my 912. Seems to be a good feature from HP when the device battery became so hot, it will suspend the internet connection and charging activities. But after you let it cool for about 10 minutes, it will recharge itself automatically.
I cant say exactly how hot it was since i don't have a device to measure exactly how hot it is.
But it gets hot enough so that you can't concentrate on what your doing (especially when reading something)
I get worried that it can get hot enough to make that other components in the device breakdown faster than it's supposed to.
I have never had a device that gets this hot from use. I guess HP knew from the beginning their device will get this hot from just normal use.
I'm asking for a battery replacement from HP. Some users here have reported improvements from using a different battery not released by HP.
Hi,
I have a navigation software on my x10. everything works fine but it seems that this programm needs so much battery that the charger can´t charger the battery.
With navigation turned on and charging the battery is still getting lower and lower.
I have a self build car charger in my car with 1000mA but it seems, that it´s not enough.
Have you any suggestions, how to solve the problem? Is there an app to change the cpu usage for the navigation to e.g. 60% instead of 100%? Or is this only possible with rooted phones?
Thanks.
Same Problem over here.
My only solution --> 2G instead of 3G and turning off W-Lan.
In that way (with GPS and Bluetooth active), the phone at least charges very slowly and doesn't drain the battery.
I had turned WLAN, BT, 3G off. But my battery was still not loading... Maybe I have to switch from 100% Screen brightness to automatic. I will try it the next time...
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...But my battery was still not loading...
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But the charging symbol shows up?
Did you shorten the Data+ and Data- Lines on your selfmade car charger?
I guess, you build it, like i did:
I took a 12V cigarette lighter to USB adapter.
Then I broke that thing apart and soldered a (micro) USB cable directly do the USB jack.
To make it working, I had to shorten the inner two lines.
Otherwise, the phone didn't charge at all.
Then I glued / taped / bubblegummed the whole thing an threw it behind my radio
Or did you build an other solution?
I build it myself, not broken a charger, and yes, it´s working (data is shorten), but it´s not enough to load the battery during navigation. If I turn navigation off, my battery is charging as usual.
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I build it myself.
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Nice one
Uhm.. what about rising mA a little further?
I've no clue what max. should be.
Probably you know?
I've also seen USB Chargers with 1500mA.
But I dunno, if its a good idea.
Phone + Battery would also heat up a little further...
Another Idea:
Maybe there is a couple of Apps running at full load in the background?
Take a look around in this forum.
Especially at the "helix launcher" and the "battery life issues" threads.
You can also download the App "SystemPanelLite".
With that one you can search and monitor the running Apps and their CPU consumption and so on.
With "Task Manger" (the one made by Rhythm Software) you can set up a auto kill rule.
Hope, that helps...
I have also tried to charge my phone with my car charger left from Omnia HD and the phone is not charging ??? HTC Desire is charging but X10 is not. Can someone tell me what could be the problem ??
Tnx
@damirbusic
The Problem is, that the two Data Pins (2 & 3 - the two middle ones)) must be shorten. Then the X10 is loading...
@McKebapp
I´m tried it with helix launcher and have some applications auto killed and all tasks closed. But it's still not enough.
It´s possible to charge the Li-Ion Batteries with 1500 mA. That will be my last solution. Don´t want to charge it with 1500mA due to overheating, specially in the summertime...
I don't have this issue at all, weird
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@UserX10:
Uhm... that is strange after all...
Which Navi-SW do u use?
I use "Sygic" for onboard navigation.
Normaly I use Sygic, too.
I tried Navigon, too, but the same result.
Both Apps draining the battery more then the charger is loading...
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Normaly I use Sygic, too.
I tried Navigon, too, but the same result.
Both Apps draining the battery more then the charger is loading...
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Really Strange...
Which temperatures do you have to deal with?
My last Idea: Maybe some overheat protection, that limits the charging rate?
By my one is the problem defently the temparatur... when i hold me phone in to the airstream from the aircooling then does the phone charging works. If i let the phone just on the right side of me on seat the it doesnt charged. But the symbol on the phone say the is currently charging... with the tool batterygraph can i see, thats isnt true...
aso i can reconized that the phone is hot.. realy hot.. extremly when the sun does shine on the phone.. the only solution is for me, to hold the phone from time to time at the airstream or i let the phone down in to the footweel, where does the sun not shine and a airstream flow around...
The akku is the warmest thing. without the cover, it works better.. i thnk the akku has around 45°... when is hot..
tested with navigon..
Hm... that´s possible. I will try it the next time with holding it in the airstream... Maybe that´s the solution.
I've got an windshield holder (dunno the correct English word).
While I'm driving open with my convertible, I set the airstream to the windshield (demister setting, but without heat), to cool the Phone a little down.
(If the Car is closed, I usually drive with activated A/C at 19°C - 23°C depending on my mood and the frozen girl on my side )
My Phone never exceeded 40°C.
So, this really may be the solution.
BY shorten the middle 2 pins... do you mean "short circuit" by joining the pins together in some way.
I have the same issue - I have the car charger from my old samsung omnia but it doesn't charge the phone and using any navigation software drains the battery very quickly
Jepp, short circuit the both two middle pins, then it will work.
For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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i had bought an FM transmitter for the iphone for like 10bucks... the charger is USB so i just use the sony's charger cable and plug it in and it works great for me when i use NAV....no problems here
UserX10 said:
For information: I tested today the charging with power supply.
780 mA is the maximum what the X10 takes. Tested with empty Battery (in Idle Mode and Apps running + WLAN + BT + GPS). Same result.
So a 1000 mA charger is fully sufficient.
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great work!
What's your opinion about your battery drainage?
Do you really think that the phone, running at full load, will suck more than 780mA to prevent charging?
Or is it really an overheating prevention?
Something I realized today:
I drove around for about an hour today.
We had 31,5°C today.
The phone was placed in its windscreen holder directly facing with its backside to the sun.
I drove with closed top A/C at 23°C.
At the end, when I was at home, the App "TempMonitor" showed me 56°C at the battery, that still was charging.
On weekend I'll try pushing the limits a little higher.
Empty battery + Navigation + open top without any A/C.
I hope my phone doesn't melt away
Hi there forum users...
I have discovered a big issue with my X10i.
When i use the GPS it drain my battery even thoug i bought the S/E car-charger only for that reason (to use the gps in my car)
It seems to me, that the phone SHOULD be able to at least maintain the same amount of "battery left" (not drain the battery any more), when using the GPS with the car charger plugged in, but for some reason even the car-charger don´t give enough power to run the navigation system
Hi.
I recently went a 400km trip with Google Maps Navigation also using the SE Car Charger, but in my case the battery power has risen. Are you using newest Firmware Version?
I have discovered the same thing, using a 3rd party car charger. Sometimes it would just stop charging... It seems to correlate to times where the battery was getting hotter then usual, so maybe its a "feature" of the charging controller to prevent battery from overheating... I was on 020 firmware then, havent tried it since I upgraded...
Same issue as the OP today, with a nokia car charger.
Lost battery power despite being plugged in. Battery also hit 55C, and it's not like I'm in a hot country, I'm in scotland!
Those with success running nav, what model of charger do you use? If it's unknown what's the output in mA?
Mine was doing the same thing (Stops Charging) until I pointed and air conditioning vent up so that it would slightly cool the phone. Then it ran nav and charged slowly the whole time.
It just gets too hot with the screen on fulltime and all of that running.
There is a battery failsafe where it will not charge if the temperature is over a certain degree. If you want ti avoid this, place the phone in a location it can have air from the air conditioner blowing on it.
Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk
I understand that the HD2 with NAND Android will not charge when switched off as the charging requires a programme (running) to control it.
I notice that my handset now charges very, very slowly. It is running a Desire ROM ([30 DEC][DFT]LEO "Stock Desire" NAND Android ROM) so would I be right in thinking that the charging is taking so long because the ROM is designed to manage a different battery / charging rate? If so is there any update I can do to correct the charging rate?
I know other people have had issues with phone's not properly recognising when battery's are full or empty - I don't seem to have that problem just that it charges slowly.
Apologies if this has been discussed previously - I did several searches but amongst the several thousand results couldn't find a specific answer to this problem.
On Magldr 1.13 your phone will boot up to charge. Still no switch off capability to charge as far as i know
Hi, thanks for that but the question was more about the speed of charge - is it MAGLDR then that manages the charge rate rather than any ROM?
Battery won't charge
I'm also having an issue where if the battery charge is too low that it won't accept a charge. Is there any way to get my battery charged without an external charger?
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I'm also having an issue where if the battery charge is too low that it won't accept a charge. Is there any way to get my battery charged without an external charger?
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Find another handset that will contact the battery correctly and charge it that way. I used a TyTNII to charge a Tattoo battery when my daughter mangled the USB connection on her handset. Battery wasn't exactly the same but the terminals were similar so held it in place with (daughters) hair bands to charge. Or else find someone else with an HD2. Can you get desktop chargers for the battery I wonder?
@800jimbo:
what do You mean saying slow? My HD2 with NAND Android get full at ~2h (using charger). I thing it's quite normal. How long is Your phone charging?
You can try CurrentWidget and post its stats - I thing it shows mA when charging (me shows ~800-900mA when charging).
@arhogs64:
You mean charging with USB connection to computer? USB port can only 500mA and it's quite low so charging can take some time...
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@800jimbo:
what do You mean saying slow? My HD2 with NAND Android get full at ~2h (using charger). I thing it's quite normal. How long is Your phone charging?
You can try CurrentWidget and post its stats - I thing it shows mA when charging (me shows ~800-900mA when charging).
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Charging slow - when it's in the car cradle using Copilot after a 2 hour drive the charge level has barely moved if at all. When I used Copilot before Android (when on WM) it would charge the phone over the same journey. I'm assuming therefore that the charge is reduced such that it barely exceeds consumption now with 'stuff' running. Or perhaps I'm looking at it the wrong way and the charging is the same but the current draw is more on Android?
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You really just need to find the combination of Radio and ROM. When I finally got that right I was able to charge very quickly.
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I am using BlueTopia and Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14. I had tried about 10 combinations before this one worked for me. Now I get about 2ma drain, very fast charging and long battery life.
1) GPS reciever draw a lot of energy. Try CurrentWidget to obtain real energy draw when using CoPilot and not (CW can record stats).
2) Almost all Android apps are running in VM so energy draw can be bigger than Windows Mobile < 7 (executing just CPU code without interpretation, GarbageCollector and JIT in background). Non stop running CoPilot can heave use CPU and car lighter might be to weak to balance energy draw.
Well with Magldr 1.13,Markinux 1.7.1 Rom all day wifi on, Sync on playing an hour Angry birds i get about 30hours battery.It takes 2 hours to charge. Usb charge is slower but you get a better charge thats what some people say!
kopap said:
Well with Magldr 1.13,Markinux 1.7.1 Rom all day wifi on, Sync on playing an hour Angry birds i get about 30hours battery.It takes 2 hours to charge. Usb charge is slower but you get a better charge thats what some people say!
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You are right - USB charging is better because accu likes low currency (and that why so called "fast charging" with high current is not recomended - faster accu degradation). But wall charger gives only <= 1000mA (default USB port ~500mA) so it's not big diff and is quite safe for accu.