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I'm considering selling my MyTouch3g 32a for a HD2 device... But, I need to know some things before I make this move.
It looks like you can't yet replace the WinMo 6.5 with Android, so it has to run off SD. At least that's what I can infer. How does this effect performance?
Is battery life good on the HD2? My MyTouch3g can get about 17-18 hours off the charger.
What does and doesn't work on the HD2 running Android? Any quirks I should know about? ...Is it stable and reliable enough to be a daily driver?
Also since I'm on T-Mobile, I'd be looking for a T-Mobile branded HD2... does this matter?
Sorry for all the noob questions.
replacing winmo will be possible in near future by a nand rom. i guess noone knows by now what will work better with a nand rom. most people think that battery life time will increase dramatically, but i won't count on that...
for me, running android from sd-card has no disadvantages but as i said before, we have to wait for nand roms.
with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
as far as i know there is just one big and some small issues with android on hd2:
big one: data disconnects with ppp. this is nearly fixed for me with S1 kernel, but approx. once a day i still get data lost...
small one(s): very few touchscreen freezes (escpecially when trying to answer a call).
just now i can't remember other issues, but since about 2 months winmo is just used for booting android on my hd2.
my conclusion: android is a very well daily driver
fruchtfliege said:
replacing winmo will be possible in near future by a nand rom. i guess noone knows by now what will work better with a nand rom. most people think that battery life time will increase dramatically, but i won't count on that...
for me, running android from sd-card has no disadvantages but as i said before, we have to wait for nand roms.
with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
as far as i know there is just one big and some small issues with android on hd2:
big one: data disconnects with ppp. this is nearly fixed for me with S1 kernel, but approx. once a day i still get data lost...
small one(s): very few touchscreen freezes (escpecially when trying to answer a call).
just now i can't remember other issues, but since about 2 months winmo is just used for booting android on my hd2.
my conclusion: android is a very well daily driver
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Thank you for the info.
What does "data disconnects with ppp" mean? and if this happens, what do I do to resolve it? Throw into airplane and out of airplane mode?
you're welcome. as far as i know there are two internet protocols:
rmnet and ppp. because of low speed, rmnet seems to be vanished in nearly all builds. the good thing about it was stability! ppp has the opposite properties: very fast but till now a bit unstable.
data disconnects means that it's not down- or uploading any data while connection seems to be established regular. as you guessed right, you can handle it with airplane mode or by disconnecting and reconnecting internet connection. there is also a (semi)fix for that, which will reconnect for you automatically. but i'm pretty sure that this data loss problem will be gone in the near future (devs are still working on it).
p.s: sorry for my poor english, i hope you understand everything.
As for me it is very usable on a daily basis. I didn't think it was possible until I started flashing Android. Everything is great except for what fruchtfliege was saying. But even then, I have never gone back to Winmo.
fruchtfliege: is your LED notification light working properly? Mine only lights up once and that's it.
compared to that old 32a, the hd2 is an absolute monster!
theres an ocational minor glitch, but nothing like things were on ported roms on a dream/saphire....
its smooth sailing...
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with new kernels like S1 or S2 from mdeejay battery life is great (for me). it lasts minimum 24 hours on normal usage.
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sorry a bit out of topic: can i install mdeejay kernel to my mccm build? and where can i find it? thanks.
I'm using the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build and i haven't found anything not working at all. The battery last longer than it did on winMO. Been using this build constantly for about a month now, apart from the odd reboot I've had nothing but fun and games
I would personnaly recommend this build also.
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I'm using the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build and i haven't found anything not working at all. The battery last longer than it did on winMO. Been using this build constantly for about a month now, apart from the odd reboot I've had nothing but fun and games
I would personnaly recommend this build also.
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no ppp disconnects?
Thanks for all the replies, this has been real helpful in my decision and will probably grab a HD2 when/if a WP7 rom comes out just to have the best of both worlds in my pocket.
One last question, I see the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build mentioned here, but I'n not a fan of sense. Is there a CyanogenMod port that's really stable?
exiva said:
Thanks for all the replies, this has been real helpful in my decision and will probably grab a HD2 when/if a WP7 rom comes out just to have the best of both worlds in my pocket.
One last question, I see the MDeeJay evo 2.3 build mentioned here, but I'n not a fan of sense. Is there a CyanogenMod port that's really stable?
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i'm using mccm and it's great (especially the looks) except for internet drops.
fruchtfliege: is your LED notification light working properly? Mine only lights up once and that's it.
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you're right. this seems to be another small bug. mine's not working properly, too. doesn't matter much for me, because i never used the led lights as indicator for calls.
sorry a bit out of topic: can i install mdeejay kernel to my mccm build? and where can i find it? thanks.
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i'm not sure which build mccm is, but if it's from mdeejay it SHOULD work (as posted in his kernel thread)
The LED notification light 'usually' works fine for me. Under 30% battery and it stays lit though
Only thing that doesn't really work is the camera on HD builds.
So far I've been disconnect free since I changed to S3 kernel from Mdeej - however I also disabled the stock tab and uninstalled my taskkiller which might've helped.
chris_ah1 said:
The LED notification light 'usually' works fine for me. Under 30% battery and it stays lit though
Only thing that doesn't really work is the camera on HD builds.
So far I've been disconnect free since I changed to S3 kernel from Mdeej - however I also disabled the stock tab and uninstalled my taskkiller which might've helped.
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Which build are you using? You mean it works for missed calls and sms?
hi all i have a hd2 with a custom win6.5 installed on it but its over 6months old now and its giving me issues, is nand android safe to use on my hd2 yet is it stable? in terms of battery life and general 24/7 usage
please let me know if its stable and whats the best rom to date to use
thank you friends
damien
DAMIEN123_666 said:
hi all i have a hd2 with a custom win6.5 installed on it but its over 6months old now and its giving me issues, is nand android safe to use on my hd2 yet is it stable? in terms of battery life and general 24/7 usage
please let me know if its stable and whats the best rom to date to use
thank you friends
damien
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In terms of stable WinMo is way ahead.
You can use it everyday if are ready to compromise - GPS is nowhere near WinMo.
Ocasional bugs with keyboard, camera, camcorder, laging.
To be honest - it's not "perfect" but i wouldn't go back to WinMo
Regarding best choice - no such thing. Flash as many as you can and see what suits your taste.
I can recommend Desire/DesireHD/Z builds. Their "stuff" is closer to HD2 specs and most of it works great.
Gingerbread has too many issues for me.
Cyanogen Froyo builds are great, i think those builds are really stable, but the design is not my favorite.
I think a lot of Android roms are close to stable.
I use it for everyday use without any problems.
The battery might be a little bit better in WinMo, but it lasts me a day without a problem.
There is not gonna be a WinMo on my HD2 again... for sure..
You can always go back to WinMo if you dont like it....Trust me Android is way better.
ok thank you for the advice ive looked at a few roms and i saw this one was very popular with the most replays so im going to install this,
how does it compare to others around?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877777
EDIT sorry ive just saw this is gingerbread ill not be using this then ... will post my choice when i find one
before you jump into full NAND, why not take a test drive. I recommend these SD builds. I used the first one for everyday use before switched to the NAND of the second (v2.6) version. Just copy the files on the SDcard and go. See how you like Android. If you like Android the NAND version are even better. (Faster and more Stable)
-=MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-
DL DesireZ v2.2
Also use a Auto Boot loader so you don't even need to click any bottoms when you boot up.
Exceller Multiple Build Loader
i want to know which is better the Nand method or the SD method,which is more stable to put on my htc hd2,thing that i want to work for me that are must are the mms/sms send and receive,the cam and the wifi-and to be able to close the apps and not have all of them running when i start up the phone also i was haveing a problem everytime i turned the phone off then put in the wall charger it would just turn off,if one could point me in the right direction in to which is betterthat would help,as well as direction on to install either one SD/NAND METHOD.thanx a mill
personnally, i noticed a huge improvement when i switched from sd to nand. incomparable.
far better, all aspects. no more disconnections, better battery life, less lags, i donot regret winmo.
My favorite rom is sergio's team core droid rom series for all the fancy effects and, of course, the swiftness.
I did not even try other ones, and tiped the team. but i'm sure others will tell otherwise.
I would agree with the above poster. Going from a SD build to a NAND build, the NAND build is much smoother and uses less battery. The best I could get on standby on a SD build was 7-9mA and actual use from 300-450mA. The NAND build uses on standby from 2-3mA and actual use from 125-300mA. If you are a TMOUS, then you should try Cmylxgo's Desire HD(2) build. The build addresses everything you are asking. It even uses an optimized gps.conf file to lock onto the GPS satellites quicker.
do you have the link for that one Cmylxgo's Desire HD(2) build.cuz that sounds like you said address all my issue
phillytye215 said:
do you have the link for that one Cmylxgo's Desire HD(2) build.cuz that sounds like you said address all my issue
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159
I've couldn't really tell a difference between NAND and SD as far as performance and battery life. I got 3-5ma on standby with NAND, and currently I get 3-6ma on standby with SD builds. No noticeable difference in performance. The nice thing about NAND is having clockwork and being able to change out SD card. Also more builds available for NAND now. I used NAND for a little more than a month, but I felt like I took away what makes the HD2 special and unique and turned it into just another common android device like everybody has. With android flashed to NAND, the HD2 can't do anything that an Evo can't do. I was thinking about going back to WinMo because I still liked using that sometimes, when WP7 was released for HD2. After trying that, I couldn't be happier with my HD2. What other phone can run 2 great OS's almost as good as the native phones can. I now use both WP7 and Android about equally, and at this point wouldn't be able to decide between the 2 OS's if I had to get a new phone. Luckily I don't have to pick right now with the HD2. I don't think we'll ever see a phone as versatile as the HD2 is again. Hopefully soon I'll be able to boot WP7(nand), Android(sd), WM6.5(sd), and Ubuntu(sd) all from my hope at any given time.
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I've couldn't really tell a difference between NAND and SD as far as performance and battery life. I got 3-5ma on standby with NAND, and currently I get 3-6ma on standby with SD builds. No noticeable difference in performance. The nice thing about NAND is having clockwork and being able to change out SD card. Also more builds available for NAND now. I used NAND for a little more than a month, but I felt like I took away what makes the HD2 special and unique and turned it into just another common android device like everybody has. With android flashed to NAND, the HD2 can't do anything that an Evo can't do. I was thinking about going back to WinMo because I still liked using that sometimes, when WP7 was released for HD2. After trying that, I couldn't be happier with my HD2. What other phone can run 2 great OS's almost as good as the native phones can. I now use both WP7 and Android about equally, and at this point wouldn't be able to decide between the 2 OS's if I had to get a new phone. Luckily I don't have to pick right now with the HD2. I don't think we'll ever see a phone as versatile as the HD2 is again. Hopefully soon I'll be able to boot WP7(nand), Android(sd), WM6.5(sd), and Ubuntu(sd) all from my hope at any given time.
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thanks for the info and your take on it your way more advanced then iam when it comes to all that
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915159
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thank you for the link and what i was reading it has everything i want and need hopeful the install part is easy will try this when i get off work thank you again for your help
ok so i flashed a rom useing the nand method the problem iam haveing now is that wheni turn the phone off to charge it.and put the wall usb in the phone comes on,as well the when i got to the task killer app just about all the apps are open some are open that i never even touched,any info would help
phillytye215 said:
ok so i flashed a rom useing the nand method the problem iam haveing now is that wheni turn the phone off to charge it.and put the wall usb in the phone comes on,as well the when i got to the task killer app just about all the apps are open some are open that i never even touched,any info would help
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With magldr, you need phone on to charge. It will automatically boot when plugged in. You must charge with phone on.
And some apps do things in the background without you doing anything. Task killers aren't actually needed in android... they usually mess things up more than helps. Android is good at managing memory on it's own.
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With magldr, you need phone on to charge. It will automatically boot when plugged in. You must charge with phone on.
And some apps do things in the background without you doing anything. Task killers aren't actually needed in android... they usually mess things up more than helps. Android is good at managing memory on it's own.
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now i have a data plan but not unlimited will those open apps effect my data plan
Hi guys, I`ve just bought HTC HD2, and I`m tired of WinMobile, because my last 2 cell phones had WM. I was watching for SD android rom, but there are so many of them, I can`t pick. Maybe you can help me and give your advice. I need stable, fast android ROM, that has WORKING 3G / Data, Audio, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, 720p PLAYBACK,Phone, Camera, Camcorder, GPS, USB Disk FUNCTIONS.
It would be perfect that it has Android market.
Looking forward to your advices
P.S , is there any threat of flashing Android Rom for the first time?
I am looking for the same thing, I've tried a few of the roms here on first page.
The one I liked most was the one from darkstone "darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5" but it aint been updated since 18th december and is outdated and has security flaw, yet it worked perfect.
I could do all the things you said, and it was super fast, no lag, nothing bad.
All the newer ones dated march all have the SENSE thing, it sure makes it look nice and like your still in WinMo but theyr also MUCH slower and MUCH less responsive. Also many have trouble running games I could just install from market that ran with no trouble on the darkstone thing.
Of these I tried: "AmeriCanAndroid AOSP", "RAFDROID HD 4.1" and "BOYPPC")
So I will wait for responses here too ^^
(Regarding the slow sense thing, maybe its possible to disable it somewhere, beyond my knowledge how to though)
these are my favorite SD builds, all the stuff you mention seems to work for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969661
the second one is a chinese port of a great ROM with an iPhone feel to it, it's quite fast and awesome.
No, there is no harm in flashing an Android ROM to NAND, it actually flashes over MAGLDR which is a bootloader than flashes over HSPL, this basically means no matter what you flash Android-wise can be undone very easily with no risk.
topnoch said:
Hi guys, I`ve just bought HTC HD2, and I`m tired of WinMobile, because my last 2 cell phones had WM. I was watching for SD android rom, but there are so many of them, I can`t pick. Maybe you can help me and give your advice. I need stable, fast android ROM, that has WORKING 3G / Data, Audio, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, 720p PLAYBACK,Phone, Camera, Camcorder, GPS, USB Disk FUNCTIONS.
It would be perfect that it has Android market.
Looking forward to your advices
P.S , is there any threat of flashing Android Rom for the first time?
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See my comparison chart: http://bit.ly/hUCNww for SD builds. Suggest Darkstone SuperRAM (v1.5 or Sense v0.1). I have not found one build that beats these - please speak up if any of you found a better one - SD or NAND.
I find coredroid (nand for all leo versions), to be very stable and fast with a good battery life, Over the past 2 weeks no lock ups everything works, the odd tweak is required but its well worth looking into
Hello there
I've just got an HD2 (I know it's a little late),
but i found out that this device is even better on some midrange phones in the market (according to the budget i currently have)
i knew there are WinMobile 6.5 builds, Windows 7.8, Android SD and NAND, UBuntu and finally MEEGO.
forget about WinMo 6.5, it's really outdated.
I know that some will tell me it's a matter of personal choice, but what i'm searching for is the most stable, no battery problems, and applications support.
any suggestions about the top 3 ROMS i should test/Use?
thank you all
I'd bet on Android...
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
bib*oops said:
I'd bet on Android...
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Nigeldg said:
If you know that it's purely a matter of opinion then what's the logic in asking?
IMO - WP7 is fast, fluid and the best OS if you don't use too many apps
- Android works fairly well and has a much better app selection than WP, but isn't quite as smooth. It's more suited for high-end hardware
- WinMo is great (yes, that does indeed mean Windows Mobile 6.5) for business-oriented usage, with excellent battery life and stability.
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thanks Nigeldg, well i really don't want to take it from the matter of opinion side of view, that's why I asked the question
I want opinions about stability, performance and battery life, with wide applications support.
the guy i bought the phone from is using an Android 2.2 build, is it worth Upgrading to the latest 4.1.2?
my Ex-phone was an touch HD (Blackstone), so i was used to putting Winmo roms only.
i'll have to read a little about how to put Android, WM7 roms.
I Agree with you that Winmo is the best in performance, battery life and currently mostly for business use, because Applications are not developed anymore for Winmo, even existing apps(specially Social) stopped working.
that's why i don't consider putting Winmo anymore, except for as a backup.
thanks
Could you two please suggest Roms one for android and another for WM7?
there are a lot, and i don't which to begin with.
I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
Nigeldg said:
I can't answer any questions unless you provide more information about what your usage of the device will be like. Different things suit different people, you'll probably just have to try some ROMs out yourself and choose later.
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Well, these are the apps I Mostly use: Facebook, Twitter, WhatsUp, Skype, Navigation, RSS....
Android and WM7 will it be then i guess, with android as the main OS.
could you point me to a good Anroid ROM to start with?
sandro.bertini said:
Hi,
I also bought my HD2 a little late in the game (some 6 months ago) and it is my second phone, I bought specificaly because I was curious to test WP7 and I knew it to be a very flexible phone if I changed my mind or new things came by (like WP8, still hope it will work some day).
That said, I use PDAimatejam WP7.8 ROM (v8.7, to be exact) and it is very stable and very, very fast, very suited to be your daily driver. There are 2 downsides (that I believe are common to all WP7 roms in the HD2):
- Lack of apps, compared to Android (that has nothing to do with the HD2, obviously). The rom I mentioned comes with the nokia apps (drive, music, etc.), I would say that your basic needs are there, depending on the type of user you are.
- Batery usage is so-so, and the batery level is inacurate. You need to perform "rituals" (look for the camera trick, for example) to have a decent battery life.
In the android front I cannot give you a personal experience (I have a Galaxy Nexus but never used android in the HD2) but the development there is very active. I would sugest you to go to a 4.1 or 4.2 ROM, it is a vast improvement over any 2.x version of android. From what I read there are very stable versions (my phone actually came with android 4.0, but I used it just for a couple hours like that). Android has a much better app coverage and as I said the development is very active, you have more ROM options to chose from. I do not know if there are any specific bugs/"characteristics" that you need to be aware, as is the case with WP7 and the batery.
Another thing, you can always try some of the options for a few days (I would recommend at least a week or two for each OS) and decide which one you like better, or even dual-boot Android and WP7. Thats the beauty of the HD2.
Hope it helps.
Good luck,
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thanks Sandro, I will definitly give WM7 a shot,
any quick guides on burning Android/WM7 ROMS, i know the forum has articles about that, but asking experienced users is better for a noob like me at the moment
thanks.
If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
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If you don't browse the web too much and don't do any heavy gaming then go for a GB ROM. Choose one yourself, there are tonnes and all are good, but just don't use Sense. A CM7/MIUI GB ROM should work fine for you. I've never used WP so I can't recommend any ROMs, I guess just get the latest version if you can. I'm not going to link you to any guides because you're supposed to search (that's one of the forum rules) so I don't really see why I should do it for you
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thanks Nigeldg
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Lol you're a good few years late with that one mate
theabsurdman said:
if you want an easy intro to android, consider installing Darkstone's superram froyo on SD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518
it's an easy quick install, everything is supported hardware-wise and if you have the latest stock rom (3.14?) you won't have to change anything on the phone. it boots and runs fast from winMo.
if i'd known how easy and useful it was going to be i'd have installed this ages ago.
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Thanks theabsurdman, but i already have Froyo, and i'm thinking about getting the latest Android version.