Does anyone here use their MS Mobile 2003 “smart” phone with a Bluetooth car kit?
I wonder if you can help me…
With my old Nokia phone, it used to activate the connection to the car kit when I turned on the engine.
However, on the MDA Compact, I have to go to Bluetooth, select the car kit, and select “Set as Hands-free” every time I get into the car, witch is rather annoying.
Does anyone know how to make this automatic? Is there a third party utility perhaps that would monitor the availability of the car kit every so often, and connect to it automatically when it is available?
And another question, does anyone know of a good utility for voice dialling?
I tried Microsoft Voice Command 1.5, it is alright, more or less (apart from awful recognition of spoken numbers, even if spoken by upper class English people) it does recognise the contact names, witch is all that I need - however, I cannot get it to react when I press the action button on the car kit.
I still have to take the phone out of my briefcase, and hold it in my hand, witch is illegal whilst driving.
My dream application, would be something basic, that I can train for certain contacts that I call regularly (like with my old nokia phone, which appeal glows by the minute) – as this way, thick eastern European accents do not matter ;-)
Thanks in advance for any pointers!
I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.
But do you have to manualy connect to the car kit every time you get into the car?
Once it is connected, I can accept and end calls using the action button. so that is not a problem
No just hold the center button of the remote for 2 seconds, than it will connetct again
tbouman said:
I have the MDA Compact Working with the CK7W form Nokia.
Works good exept the voice dailing, You can thakeand disconnect a call with the remote controle.
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Hold on a minute, I have the same Nokia car kit, and my Compact when connected suffers badly with reported echoes at their end, not mine.
Do you have this problem?
I was to believe that this was a common problem not resolved yet!
Mike.
I'm gonna test this tomorrow in my shop, I will place a list with phones(other than Nokia) that will work with the CK7W[/quote]
My car kit is CK-1W
I am generaly happy with it, apart from the fact that on the MDA I have to manualy connect every time I get into the car.
I used it with many different phones, and it works fine.
so I think that it is the bluetooth manager of the MDA that is to blame.
my compaq Ipaw bluetooth manager was the best!
but this one, I cannot even get the activesync to work...
For the manual connect you have 2 blame the BT manager in w2003se.
I have good results with:
Nokia CK7W:
Qtek 9090
Qtek S100
Sony Ericsson P910(I)
Sony Ericsson P700i
Samsung D500
HP6340
Are there alternative bluetooth managers?
or a reg. hack I can implement?
thanks
Hmmm, I Don't know...Anyone?
Apparently not…
I had the same problems with my mr handsfree genius car kit, and i thought it was the fault of the car kit.
Just upgrade your rom to 1.06 and all your problems will disappear most likely.
Which rom do you have?
Andre
I have an old ROM.
however, all my atempts at upgrading it failed.
my device ID is something like TMOB-005, not 001
cracked update exe file did not help, running the scripts to modify the ROM files did not help...
in the end I felt inept, and gave up ;-)
I was wondering whether there is a utility somewhere which can be used to switch on bluetooth when a call is received, pair the headset with the Universal and switch bluetooth back off when the call is finished.
Leaving the PDA with Bluetooth constantly on is draining my battery too quickly.
Is this possible at all and if so, has someone created a tool to do it?
Pocketzenphone is your answer. See various postings on this site. This software is a must for anyone with a Phone edition pocket pc.
This option didn't work on my jasjar.
OzBT does work!!!
Instead use a Motorolla Head set
Tailazoom is right - a most important feature of this program does not work on the jasjar :x . I contacted Zendrui perhaps he can come up with some sort of fix. Also for some reason I cannot even uninstall the program using the Remove Programs facility.
Recently bought this carstereo, as it got bluetooth buildt in. The combination with S200 works allmost excelent, but for two things.
What it does: It works well as a handsfree set, it mutes the sound, shows the number in the display, and the remote control either accept or reject the call. What it does'nt do (and the manual warns about this, I was aware of this before I bought it): It won't sync the phonebook. Either can I beam single contacts.
Anyone here tried this combination and had better luck than me? Any good advice?
HPN
I have the JAMin with this head unit. Exactly the same experience as you. I also have two other things I'd like to change or find a solution for:
1. Although auto-connect is on, I have to connect manually (the manual warns of this). I wonder if there's some way of automating this or at least making it one click form either the pda or the head unit.
2. Pressing and holding 'band' triggers VoiceCommander on my PDA but I can't give commands. It seems that the audio form the car's mic is not fed through to the pda. Any ideas?
Regards
I have the same problems and i don't find any solution
Anyone have any luck resolving these problems? I'm looking into a Pioneer DEH-9800bt and want to transfer my phonebook, as well as use voice commander.
Using Jetware you'll solve all your probs.
Hi,
I've installed the update for Navipanel hoping it would work now, even though I don't have the CU-S400. I start the Navipanel.exe from the exe in the Windows folder, and it starts up as expected. When I try to make a call the dialer always switches to portrait even though Navipanel is in landscape.
Could this be a dialer problem (I have the latest Energy ROM) or is it because I started navipanel by hand.
Anyone knows how to solve this? Is there a registry key that forces the dialer to stay in landscape mode? Or is there something I can do with the microusb power connector (short pins?) to force the landscape mode?
It would be great if anyone is able to give me some details on registry changes when the CU-S400 connects (can be detected using SKTracker) so I can maybe write a utility/tool force this mode without the actual carkit.
Any help is apreciated, I hate it when the device return to portrait while I'm driving.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Nothing was available so I cooked up something myself. See post 31 for a cab file.
le_cactus said:
Hi,
I've installed the update for Navipanel hoping it would work now, even though I don't have the CU-S400. I start the Navipanel.exe from the exe in the Windows folder, and it starts up as expected. When I try to make a call the dialer always switches to portrait even though Navipanel is in landscape.
Could this be a dialer problem (I have the latest Energy ROM) or is it because I started navipanel by hand.
Anyone knows how to solve this? Is there a registry key that forces the dialer to stay in landscape mode? Or is there something I can do with the microusb power connector (short pins?) to force the landscape mode?
It would be great if anyone is able to give me some details on registry changes when the CU-S400 connects (can be detected using SKTracker) so I can maybe write a utility/tool force this mode without the actual carkit.
Any help is apreciated, I hate it when the device return to portrait while I'm driving.
Thanks in advance.
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Its more of a quick work-around rather than a total fix, but have you tried Gyrator2? Its a program that allows the screen to rotate in pretty much all programs.
Hi,
I did, but it doesnt work; the dialer goes to portrait mode, and only switches to landscape again if I hold my phone in portrait and then to landscape again.
Is there noboby who has got it working and is willing to check somethings?
TIA,
Cheers,
/Cacti
I have htc car holder CU-S400 and for me it stays in the landscape even in dialer mode.
I have tried to start navipanel without car holder but then in dialer mode it goes to portrait.
I belive it is related to micro usb on car holder.I hope this will help.
It does, thanks. I've send you a PM.
Cheers,
/Cacti
I'm in Jakarta - Indonesia.
My car kit CU S400 has arrived yesterday, in navi panel mode can we use another program beside co pilot for navigation, how to choose or change the default (co pilot).
I've ask to support center and it's been 36 hours and still no answer to my question.
hope someone can help me.
regards,
Raymond Widya
Pinout?
chavonbravo said:
Well, it seems the registry that enables/disables NaviPanel is in HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Keypad\"IsCarKitMode" with dword 0 or 1. The file that controls this registry settings going on or off is HTCApplication.dll. The 'Keypad' key doesn't exist, so you'll have to add it and add the IsCarKitMode dword value.
I can't get it to work with my a2dp stereo headphones to connect automatically, but I think this is because when doing the bluetooth handshake, some flags must not be set that show it to be a car kit possibly. Only other option would be bthutil.dll after that and see what it does.
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So, digging in some more I found this post. The IsCarKitMode registry key does exist on our HD2's, and changing it's value to 1 briefly brings up the Navipanel. But sometings ( I guess the HTC Application service) changes it rights back to 0, disableing the 'true' landscape mode. Disableing the service isn't an option I think; it handles much more then just the car kit mode. An looking at the DLL that handles the service (HTCApplication.dll) didn't give me much info; the IsCarKitMode strings didn't even exist in it.
So now I'm looking for the pinout of the CU-S400 micro USB connector. I know the three coper connections beside the SIM may have the answer, but I also found threads stating certain Mini2Micro USB adapters made the device think it's in car kit mode. Anyone with any input on how to hardwire this please speakup
TIA,
Cheers,
Cacti
Never mind, I got it working now
Thanks for all your help
I've got a working NaviPanel and landscape dialer even withou the CU-S400. It detects AC power, waits for my BT Carkit to connect and then starts NaviPanel. True landscape, even if the dialer is started and when a call comes in.
Now all I need to figure out why every navigation shortcut in NaviPanel adds the Show parameter to CoPilot, and how CoPilot knows need to Go Home, Show Recent places, Addresses of simply start.
Again, I need the help. this time from someone using CoPilot and who is willing to use SKTracker to find out what's going on. I almost have the perfect solution, I'm nearly there
TIA,
Cheers,
/Cacti
le_cactus said:
Thanks for all your help
I've got a working NaviPanel and landscape dialer even withou the CU-S400. It detects AC power, waits for my BT Carkit to connect and then starts NaviPanel. True landscape, even if the dialer is started and when a call comes in.
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Would you like to share your setup ?
Go on le_cactus,and I am glad to see that you found solution for your problem.
I am sorry for didn't send you requested screenshot,but I was on trip and I didn't have good internet connection.
I hope you will find solution how to integrate alternative navigation system with navipanel,and I hope one of them will be GarminXT.
You know I really hate when someone says "I found a solution" and does not care enough to share the solution with others, but yet had to ask here in the first place. As for the navipanel, if you connect pin 4 to ground it will start up navipanel and let you use the dialer in landscape without it rotating to portrait first. Hope this helps others finding their way here for a solution.
duplicate sorry!
iBlade67 said:
You know I really hate when someone says "I found a solution" and does not care enough to share the solution with others, but yet had to ask here in the first place. As for the navipanel, if you connect pin 4 to ground it will start up navipanel and let you use the dialer in landscape without it rotating to portrait first. Hope this helps others finding their way here for a solution.
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Yes that was Bl**dy annoying.
However here is the answer.
It is possible to modify any car power adapter to enable navipanel. You must indeed connect pin 4 to ground pin 5. However I have discovered it is not that simple, that did not work on my power adapter. The reason was this.
Most power adapters connect pins 2+3 (the USB data lines) together to identify that it is a charger capable of supplying higher power than a PC USB port. This enables "fast charge". with these pins connected the HD2 wont go into navipanel.
It is neccessary to remove the link between pins 2+3 and instead link 4+5.
This allows the HD2 to switch to navipanel mode and at the same time recognise there is a high power charger present!!
The pins look like this from the rear
* * *
* *
numbered
5 3 1
4 2
I hope this helps someone else looking for this solution. It would be great if you could buy a "proper" aftermarket car adapter for the HD2 that had this mod done!
Cheers all and enjoy!
bob_bournemouth said:
Yes that was Bl**dy annoying.
However here is the answer.
It is possible to modify any car power adapter to enable navipanel. You must indeed connect pin 4 to ground pin 5. However I have discovered it is not that simple, that did not work on my power adapter. The reason was this.
Most power adapters connect pins 2+3 (the USB data lines) together to identify that it is a charger capable of supplying higher power than a PC USB port. This enables "fast charge". with these pins connected the HD2 wont go into navipanel.
It is neccessary to remove the link between pins 2+3 and instead link 4+5.
This allows the HD2 to switch to navipanel mode and at the same time recognise there is a high power charger present!!
The pins look like this from the rear
* * *
* *
numbered
5 3 1
4 2
I hope this helps someone else looking for this solution. It would be great if you could buy a "proper" aftermarket car adapter for the HD2 that had this mod done!
Cheers all and enjoy!
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Hi Bob,
I was also annoyed ybout the missing possibility to start the car kit mode. The Navi Panel was not a problem to start with a shortcut but unfortunately the predefined connect to my Parrot hands free set via bluetooth wouldnt work. So I have to crack it on the hardware side
I was very happy about your posting and the provided solution. I plan to start a field trial with a micro USB cable, my side cutter and my soldering iron. Hopefully I can affirm your pin-bridges
But before I start, I have to be sure that I count the plug pins right. Is the numbering of attached picture right or should I have to count otherwise?
Thanks for your help.
Here I got the answer!
http://translate.google.at/translat....cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73&p=1037#p1037
original usb adaptor solved this issue
I am coming from tytn II and I have the original htc car charger, when I purchased the HD2 I found that the charger can't be used with it, then I went back to HTC store here in Saudi Arabia and asked for an adaptor (USB mini to USB micro), and it cost less than 3 USD and once I attached to the HD2 it went to the Navipanal.
I think the solution of the resistor was built in it or it is because of using the original HTC car charger (which was for the Tytn II).
Funny thing that I thought that this is natural with any Car charger till I saw this thread
CU-S400 Emulator
Hi,
I finaly got a working CU-S400 Car Holder emulator! When using my HD2 in landscape mode in my car I ran into the following problems:
The device changes to portrait mode everytime the dialer comes up
The device always goes to speakerphone on incoming calls, even though my Parrot carkit is connected. Outgoing call are routed through my Parrot carkit though. I always had to manualy disable speakerphone on every incomming call.
I have to switch on Bluetooth everytime I enter my car; having BT on all the time drains my battery to fast
Running NaviPanel (to solve part of the above problems) disables the StartMenu hardkey, and changes the Home hardkey to always change to NaviPanel instead of Sense.
The attached ZIP file contains the following files:
CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe - A modified file that is originaly used by the Via Michelin GSP software. It detects if AC Power is connected of disconnected, and the launches my HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe. It either launches with the AC_ON or AC_OFF parameter, depending on wheter AC is connected or disconnected.
CarKitMode Detect Helper.lnk - The shortcut that is placed in \Windows\StartUp to autostart the monitoring of te AC connection.
HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe - A Basic4PPC file I created. If started with the AC_ON parameter it changes the registry so my HD2 thinks it's connected to a CU-S400 Car Holder. It enables Blueooth and then waits for 2 minutes to see i the bluetooth device specified in NaviPanel settings is connected. If not, shuts itself down after disabling Bluetooth. If Bluetooth is connected sits, and waits for a call, and then disables speakerphone if it sees that speakerphone is enabled. That way the call is routed through the BT device.
When started with the AC_OFF parameter it changes the registry back, disables BT and shuts itself down.
VJSpeakerPhoneOFF.exe - The program that is called to disable speakerphone. It's part of the VJPhoneShortcuts suite that was created many years back by Vijay555. Big thanks to him, although I'm sure there are other programs that will do the same.
I've tested a lot, and can't find any battery or performance penalty for the always running helper application. And the HTC_car_kit_mode_auto only runs if AC power is connected, and then only for two minutes if the BT device isn't connected. Just unzip the attached CU-S400 Emulator.zip to the root of your device and soft reset. I tried to make a CAB file, but installing it always failes, haven't got a clue why. If anyone find a way to create this cab file, please let me know.
Best way to use this if BT is disabled by default. And it's not necessary to enable the auto launch of NaviPanel. I don't use it anymore. It disables the StartMenu hardkey, and since I don't use CoPilot it doesn't do much for me. By using these utilities I do have true landscape support for the dialer, and I works with any AC power connection, no need to modify the USB connector. I'm very happy, my in car experience is 100% better now.
Hope this helps anyone, if not I'm still happy, it works for me!
Cheers,
/Cacti
le_cactus said:
CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe - A modified file that is originaly used by the Via Michelin GSP software. It detects if AC Power is connected of disconnected, and the launches my HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe. It either launches with the AC_ON or AC_OFF parameter, depending on wheter AC is connected or disconnected.
CarKitMode Detect Helper.lnk - The shortcut that is placed in \Windows\StartUp to autostart the monitoring of te AC connection.
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Hi,
unfortunately this wont work on my ROM. I use original german ROM with all updates. If I copy your "Startup" shortcut to my "Autostart" folder I get an error message, that the application is not certified or some components are missing. I already dissabled the "uncertified" message with HD2Tweak and it works for other apps.
Best regards
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I get an error message, that the application is not certified or some components are missing.
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Hi,
At what point does the error message occur? At startup (while launching CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe) or when connecting or disconnecting power?
Cheers,
/Cacti
le_cactus said:
Hi,
At what point does the error message occur? At startup (while launching CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe) or when connecting or disconnecting power?
Cheers,
/Cacti
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At StartUp. Maybe it's because I use german ROM?