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Hey all,
I've read these forums, and am 90% sure I have a defective Hermes. However, I'm unsure, as these forum posts were just text, and therefore can't really accurately describe the problems being seen. So, I made a YouTube video showing a couple of my issues, especially the screen fading to white. Like I say, I'd just like confirmation, and I'd like this post and video to serve as a help to others who are wondering if they have the same problem. You know what they say, a picture is worth a 1000 words .
Here are more details of my problems, in no particular order:
o The buttons reset after a quick power off and on (not a reset).
o The screen fade problem resets itself after a quick power off and on (not a reset).
o The screen calibration issue (not shown in video) seems to last a little longer sometimes. The issue is that calibration gets a little off. It seems to be by 10-20 pixels, but I can't repeat this as readily as the screen fade.
o This has happened with and without a memory card inserted.
o I've tried two different batteries, with the same results.
o I've tried three different firmwares (original, WM5 update, WM6 Black 2.0).
o The battery quick powerdown issue has only happened to me once (battery drains 10% every minute).
Here's the link to the video. It's only 84 seconds, so take a peek!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQWqTkoMX_4
Let me (and others) know your thoughts. It'd be appreciated.
PS... about the screen calibration...
FYI, I know about the screen calibration issues some have had wth the Hermes. However, I don't think this is that problem, since I never, ever have to recalibrate my phone. It always corrects itself eventually.
The screen calibration issue (not shown in video) seems to last a little longer sometimes. The issue is that calibration gets a little off. It seems to be by 10-20 pixels, but I can't repeat this as readily as the screen fade.
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This has been documented HEAVILY in the wiki and the forums so I wont answer that.
The rest seems VERY weird indeed especially the screen going white?!?!
Is it still in warranty because I would so send it to be repaired.
Not seen anything like that on any forum. Are you keeping it somewhere hot or near an e.m. field just before use?
What additional apps have you installed? Do these problems still occur with an "empty" phone (i.e. right after a hard reset before installing third party apps)? If so then that should rule out software and firmware (ROM).
Fade to white issue: hardware problem IMO
Buttons stop working issue: looks like software IMO
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Fade to white issue: hardware problem IMO
Buttons stop working issue: looks like software IMO
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I agree, the screen going white is similar to when I had my O2 XDA EXEC (HTC Universal) in which whenever I moved the lcd into the mini laptop mode the screen would fade to pure white. When I sent it into PPC Tech they notified me saying in which the lcd cable was damaged itself. Im not sure if thats the case with you necesarily, since it seems the screen goes back to normal after powering the device to standby and back.
The keys are most likely software/rom issues. Perhaps maybe you should reflash to a recent rom and see what happens. Although if that doesnt work I suggest you send in for replacement or warranty. I neeever in the 6 months I had my phone did I ever have problems like the one you've listed.
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I just realized I saw that you tried multiple roms, if thats the case I realllly believe you have a defective phone. It does happen that one in a hundred tend to go bad..
Had similar occurance when mine had gotten damp.
fading screen and hardware buttons
Hi,
I've reported some time ago these issues, they started with LVSW Edition (2007-03-20) and after that Pro - BLACK 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 and still with 3.01.
I don't think is hardware related. i happens in random way. No specific apps or time or connection.
I've had similar issues with the buttons not working on my 8525. It seems to have to do with changing in and out of landscape mode. For example, I'll always have problems if I reset the phone and leave it in landscape mode and I always have to push the keyboard in and pull it back out to get everything working right.
If the buttons DO work, they are usually wrong, like up and down will instead move left to right. Again, pushing in and pulling out the keyboard fixes it for me. I recently upgraded to a new ROM and couldn't say if the problem persists or not.
As for the white screen issue - I'd say it's FUBAR'd.
My Cingular 8525 is having screens issues that I thought I'd post to the community if anyone has seen this.
The normal screen will go to all white under thermal conditions it appears. Thermal being inside a hot car, in my holster against my hip, gripping in my hand, heavy use with BT or wifi... thus I suspect thermal. I've changed battery's, no change. If it has changed to all white screen, a soft reset will not revert the screen back. The pda appears to have to "cool" off before screen will recover.
Could this be a LCD driver chip dieing? The screen itself? Worth repairing? Got my eye on the AT&T Fuze but wanted to keep the 8525 going for a few more months.
Thanks, Craig
holy crap I'm having the same problem. I havent determined heat to be the problem, but the only possible clue is that once, right after i hung up ona phone conversation, the screen turned semi white. If you looked real hard you could tell that the menus and programs were still operating normally, but the screen was screwy. using johkoss's V8 w. Manilla2D
Major problem, theres a MASSIVE thread going for this, sometimes it pays to use the search function.....
this is "the most common issue" on a hermes device.
I, personally, experienced it 3 times with 3 different hermes. Each time I had to send the device back to the shop. Because my device was under warranty, I always got a new one, free of charge.
You guys might want to check the Wiki, cause I believe there's a section there just dedicated for this issue.
I can't remember what the details are, but if my memory serves me right, it has something to do with the hardware (connection of cables to the screen).
I don't use hermes anymore, but I still come to the hermes forum every now and then...
Therer are actually a myriad of reasons you can get whitescreen, both hardware and software. From the descriptions though, it sounds like hardware.
This can be one of the most difficult things to fix as there may be multiple reasons and fixing one thing won't fix the issue.
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I am agree with you. White screen may be appears occasionally and may be not. When white screen appears in my experience, it's enough to soft-reset.
May be different solutions with another?
HTC TyTN White Screen Issue with S/N Starting with HT6's
is your TyTN S/N start's with a HT6 you have a defective model for sure they are one of the first breads and are being known too have issues, so anyone make sure it starts with a HT733G4323 Etc, if your buying one of these used.
Or Even new Watch Out.
HTC TyTN
1.10
mobile 5
With 6.1 Plug-in's
Can't say that MY HT6 is a problem.. I actually found it faster than a HT7 (I have both). I did have to replace the LCD, BUT, it was because the touchscreen died, NOT whitescreen.
I bought the HT7 as a broken Hermes off ebay and found that it was actually less responsive than my older model. Used it to fix my older HT6 than use the HT7 motherboard in my, now, Frankenphone....
The "broken" Jasjam had a broken camera. It was actually just unplugged from the board. Liked my older model better...
Cheers...
White Screen
Hi to all,
I'm using PDAcorner v.20 w/ 5mb page pool,i to has encounter a white screen issue,it is true that its my be a hardware and software issue but if you only encounter white screen that all the time it is a software issue,you can check (schaps advance config) im using version 2.02.1.0.0 builtin in pdacorner v20 check the performance setting disable file system cache and file system filter cache in the glyph cache use only 8kb observe if the white screen will appear again.
hope that this will help all with white screen issue.
Hi, Just wonder if you still have the screen problem (register the wrong place when click) after the upgrade.
No. You should check out the humongous thread on google support forums. Googe have now abandned even giving updates on this serious problem.
http://www.google.com/support/forum...8e&hl=en&fid=04134c63c784258e00047fdfe09ae547
p.s. no fix in ere36b either (as im running that now and still experience this problem at random)
I don't understand this issue, I just don't see it on mine at all, no matter what ROM I install ... there has to be something more to this than a simple fault across all handsets ... either select faulty ones or some other factor. Mine just works 100% as expected at all times.
That said I have had no 3G issues either, no matter what radio version I use. Perhaps I am lucky ?
I think its because people are touching the edge of the screen while pressing with the other causing it to register incorrectly
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I think its because people are touching the edge of the screen while pressing with the other causing it to register incorrectly
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That is not it, there are plenty of videos that show the touchsreen misfiring while just laying on the table. Also, the way I hold my phone I am never touching the glass surface other than with the one finger doing the touching.
With regards to some people not seeing it, this issue is very random. I can go for days without noticing it and then out of the blue it would come back, most annoying when it happens while typing something.
There is another somewhat related issue with the sensor on the n1. If you download an app called multi touch paint and try to draw two parallel lines simultaneously from say top left corner down to bottom right you will see that the lines are not straight at all and full of zigzags. Only way that this sensor recognizes multiple lines properly is if you draw perfectly vertical or horizontal lines.
There is also a discussion on developer groups where game developers are pointing out this very problem of multi toch totally being screwed up where it switches axis causing your touch to register in completely the wrong place. From the comments of the android engineer it makes it seem that the sensor hardware is just like that, cheap and low quality.
Link to discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/andr...read/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/9a8ea81133866460
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I think its because people are touching the edge of the screen while pressing with the other causing it to register incorrectly
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trust me its not.
i have had this twice and has nothing to do with that.
i dont see it as a huge problem but a lot of people are getting this on a daily basis..
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That is not it, there are plenty of videos that show the touchsreen misfiring while just laying on the table. Also, the way I hold my phone I am never touching the glass surface other than with the one finger doing the touching.
With regards to some people not seeing it, this issue is very random. I can go for days without noticing it and then out of the blue it would come back, most anyin when it happens while typing something.
There is another somewhat related issue with the sensor on the n1. If you download an app called multi touch paint and try to draw to lines simultaneously from say top left corner down to bottom right you will see that the lines are not straight at all and full of zigzags. Onlyway that this sensor recognizes multiple lines properly is if you draw perfectly vertical or horizontal lines.
There is also a discussion on developer groups where game developers are pointing out this very problem of multi toch totally being screwed up where it switches axis causing your touch to register in completely the wrong place. Fromn the comments of the android engineer it makes it seem that the sensor hardware is just like that, cheap and low quality.
Link to discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/andr...read/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/9a8ea81133866460
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I know, I have seen all these videos and attempted to re-create many times to test I have never seen this issue once.
Don't get me wrong I can understand it being a mare of you are having it, but I just dont ever see it.
after trolling the Google thread, it seems to me there are several scenarios everyone is lumping into "screen issues" and it's going to be hard to pin it down to one source
Mine happens (touch registers on the wrong part of the screen) when I am using certain apps (Ringdroid, Browser mostly) - a couple of things clears it up ; press the sleep button, kill all tasks if you have an app for it, or change to landscape mode. For other people it's the soft keys and/or much worse. Since mine clears up with a specific action, I tend to think it is software related.
With mine it used randomly to happen but only in the Launcher (never again since 36B). I couldn't point anywhere but if I selected any app with the trackball and opend ist everything worked fine again, also the keyboard on the launcher worked well. For me it seems that it has something to do with the launcher.
My phone took a dive and hit the pavement pretty hard, leaving a half-inch radius arc on the side of the scree. No big deal, but this damage also killed about 25% of the touch sensor surface in a very inconvenient location. So I did what any other good fellow would do: order an OEM part from Ebay.
I installed the screen with much effort (having taken apart phones before it was not difficult to identify and remove the elements, save for that nasty screen) and turned the device on. Imagine my surprise when I saw that my once beautiful Nexus display was reduced to an upsetting mess of artifacts and pixels.
Key notes to consider:
1. The touch screen works 100%, which kind of makes this problem "tolerable"
2. The artifacts shift with each menu and orientatikn, but remain oddly in similar positions in each screen (the artifacts appear in the same location on the home screen no matter what other screen I come from.)
3. Videos are not affected by this (tested on youtube in landscape view)
These primary factors lead me to believe that there is a problem with the software communicating with the hardware. I have checked and re-checked the cables and made sure they are in the right spot and securely connected. My main question is foes anyone have any idea how to resolve this? Do lcd/ digitizers come with any covers on the ports that I may have overlooked? Do I need to re-flash a rom and/or return to stock altogether?
I have done two teardowns to test all the connections, and have abstained from using glues in the event that I may have to do another. Included is an image of my screen taken from another phone.
helios.z3r0 said:
My phone took a dive and hit the pavement pretty hard, leaving a half-inch radius arc on the side of the scree. No big deal, but this damage also killed about 25% of the touch sensor surface in a very inconvenient location. So I did what any other good fellow would do: order an OEM part from Ebay.
I installed the screen with much effort (having taken apart phones before it was not difficult to identify and remove the elements, save for that nasty screen) and turned the device on. Imagine my surprise when I saw that my once beautiful Nexus display was reduced to an upsetting mess of artifacts and pixels.
Key notes to consider:
1. The touch screen works 100%, which kind of makes this problem "tolerable"
2. The artifacts shift with each menu and orientatikn, but remain oddly in similar positions in each screen (the artifacts appear in the same location on the home screen no matter what other screen I come from.)
3. Videos are not affected by this (tested on youtube in landscape view)
These primary factors lead me to believe that there is a problem with the software communicating with the hardware. I have checked and re-checked the cables and made sure they are in the right spot and securely connected. My main question is foes anyone have any idea how to resolve this? Do lcd/ digitizers come with any covers on the ports that I may have overlooked? Do I need to re-flash a rom and/or return to stock altogether?
I have done two teardowns to test all the connections, and have abstained from using glues in the event that I may have to do another. Included is an image of my screen taken from another phone.
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Hey! I know this was ages ago but, how did you fix it?
I bought a replacement screen, changed my broken one and it's got the same problem yours had.
Thanks in advance!
Hi guys,
I recently purchased a used Tegra Note 7 on eBay. As I'm in the UK it's the Advent Vega variety, although I don't know if that is relevant as they all appear to be the same unit; can someone confirm?
Anyway, I have noticed that every so often I lose touch response along the left or bottom edge of the screen, where the nav-bar would be in either portrait or landscape modes. This sometimes results in me having difficulty pressing the back or home button, or having difficulty selecting the settings button in the bundled camera app (this sits at the top-left of the screen). Another annoyance I found in the YouTube app; when scrolling through videos to watch, it would load the first video my finger landed on, but then continue scrolling. It's like it registers my first touch as a 'click' then realises I actually want to perform a continuous movement.
Having read a few posts scattered across the net about various touch-screen issues and some apparent software fixes, I wonder if I should stick with the tablet and wait for Lollipop to fix everything(!), or send it back on the assumption that this is an inherent fault. Because I may end up sending the tablet back, I'm hesitant to try any software fixes that require unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery.
So what is the general consensus? Is the hardware flaky on these devices, or is software to blame?
I wasn't pleased when I found out that the UK models are Advent Vega (I experienced many issues with their first budget device, which was pretty horrible), but hoped all Tegra Notes were built equally regardless of the market.
Thanks in advance.
Today I was watching YouTube in reverse-landscape mode (so that the hinge on the flip case was at the top), and I couldn't click the search button at the top right of the app. It just would not register. Five minutes later, it starts working.
What's the deal with these screens?
Well, it's going back to the seller. I had no confidence in the device being able to give me hassle-free use throughout its life.
Plus there doesn't seem to be much of a community. Weird how this tablet seems to have gone under the radar.
HELLO-O-O-o-o-? ECHO-O-O-o-o-.
I get the touch screen issues occasionally too. I find that just turning the screen off and then back on usually fixes the issue.
Still it is bloody irritating!
I am miffed at the lack of community support for this device too. I thought that given the price and the fact that unlocking the bootloader is so easy that the dev community would have been all over this tablet. Shame.
Yeah it's a strange one for sure. It's still one of the most powerful tablets around, runs almost pure Android, has front-facing speakers, a half-decent stylus, easy to unlock like you say, and is an absolute bargain.
The Shield Tablet looks absolutely awesome though, hopefully that ends up with more of a following.