Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?
some apps definitely would not respond well if you install it in the storage card, especially if the app needs to 'wake up' from the power standby, due to the battery saving mode for external storage.
with X1, the phone storage is plenty that it doesn't make any difference for you to install in phone storage versus external. Upon fresh hardreset, my phone would have at least 204MB after deleting away the demo videos, etc. And this is standard ROM, not custom ROM.
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Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?
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The truth is that it is "horses for courses"
If you regard the device as a phone with a bit of residual computer capability, then 300Mb of Storage will last a lifetime
If you regard it as a computer with a phone segment attached, then use the SD card for everything you can. The tnyynt SD tweak for speeding card access is brilliant to the point where I am unable to tell the practical difference between Storage and card use.
I use mine as a work computer with a phone attached. My 16Gb card is already 55% full (ie. just under 9Gb of data and programs) - this cannot fit in Storage.
man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.
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man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.
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OK, well 1) as I said, my device is used as a computer with a phone segment attached, so having >8Gb "on my phone" is not really accurate. I have >8Gb on my card (ie. HDD) and growing
2) Music and video ?? None of them, I use hifi and TV for those when I'm home
3) I use the device for geological/geotechnical mapping on a world-wide basis, together with CAD/3D modeling of collected and supplied data. So high-level topo data, drillhole data, outcrop data, survey data, engineering constraints, zillions of reference reports etc etc + the slew of large programs needed to run these data collections
So for me, smaller, faster ROM = better and better
4) you bet I'm hanging out for the 32Gb cards
problem with having too little phone storage is some program use storage as temp
currently i have about 40gb storage free but still
the comic book reader crash often because the .net program in question
unzip the whole comic to some temp dir in phone storage
when it operates and apparently the comic use more then 40gb
would be easy for the programmer to fix so it didn't unzip all or did it to
the sd card but..
I put pretty much all programs that can be installed onto the card on the card... I also have shedloads of files on there mainly for language learning (I am learning Chinese and also have some Russian stuff)... from 16gb I am down to 7.7 and thats only cos I deleted a few tv shows from China...
PS I am reposting this due to the deletion bug thing... I did have a longer post but cant remeber all my witty reply...
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Hi guys,
The version of CoPilot Live 8 that comes installed on the HD2 is something I wish to use. I have a license key (had purchase this a while ago). I have managed to activate my license on the HD2 but cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the latest maps onto the device.
I have RTFM and searched and I still don't get it, am I being really stupid? Any help on getting the latest maps onto my device (SD card I presume) would be much appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5207395&postcount=16
There may be an issue with my method, I will report back as soon as I have investigated. I suggest not using this guide until I have found what the issue is and if there is a fix/solution.
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Right guys, the method below does work but you need a fair amount of patience. The guide below has been updated.
Do everything shown in the guide below and your maps will download. It will take a fair amount of time depending on the follow:
1. The size of the maps you are downloading.
2. The speed of your broadband connection.
READ THE WHOLE GUIDE BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!
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You have a new HD2 with CoPilot Live 8 preinstalled (I think this is the case for ALL new HD2s as CoPilot Live 8 is cooked into the default/official ROM.
You already have a CoPilot Live 8 license (that you perhaps used on a previous device etc) that covers you for regions other than the one that comes preinstalled on the SD card that comes in the box.
You want to use your existing license and map regions on your shiney new HD2.
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1. Deactivate the license on your old device by doing in the following:a. Launch CoPilot
b. Menu -> Settings->Licencing. Press deactivate (you need to have an internet connection active for this to work, I used WiFi).
c. You should see a message the confirms the deactivation has been successful.2. Before you do anything on your HD2 with CoPilot I suggest copying the "copilot" folder on the bundled 2GB SD card onto your desired card (I used an 8GB Sandisk that I used to use with my Touch Pro). You can skip this step if you just want to use the bundled card and there is enough space for any additional maps you want/need to download.
3. Make sure your HD2 has an internet connection, once again I suggest using WiFi for speed and stability reasons.
4. Make sure your HD2 is connected to a power supply to keep it "awake". Not sure if this is really necessary.
5. Fire up CoPilot and follow the on-screen instructions.
6. Enter your license key when prompted, followed by the email address and password you used on the old device.
7. Your HD2 installation of CoPilot should now be activated (as indicated by an on-screen confirmation).
8. Press Menu->Download Maps: Now select the map/region you desire (this will be dictated/limited by the license code you enter I believe). Once you do this the download will commence but you will (I did) get thrown back to the map screen showing your location. Once again press Menu->Download Maps. You should now see a progress indicator and the title at the top of the page should show "Download In Progress".
9. After you complete step 8 below you will see a progress indicator in CoPilot in the "Download Maps" section as stated above. This will obviously creep up as your map is downloaded. When this progress bar reaches the end it may appear to become "stuck", it will not move for sometime. At this point do not lose heart and be patient, VERY patient!
During this time I think the device is making a copy of the file it just downloaded, I dont know why and I dont know how, because looking in file explorer the two files are named EXACTLY the same and within the same folder?! How is this even possible?
The only thought I have on this is that perhaps it's doing some weird check/checksum on the downloaded file. While this is happening the screen will not change, the progress bar will remain at 100% and the title will still be "Download In Progress".
The downloading process will eventually switch to an "Unpacking" process which is reflected in the title of the screen which will now show "Unpacking Data", however the progress bar will still say downloading and reset back to zero and then start to creep back up (though thank fully fairly quickly compared to the previous one!). Again when this progress indicator reaches 100% the device will sit there for a little while.
10. When the device/CoPilot decide they're done you'll be thrown to the map screen and shown a dialog box. Choose "Ok" and you will be shown a list of your available Data Regions. Select your desired data region. Now, weirdly, for me the device showed Europe and Europe!! I assume the currently selected Europe was the "UK & Ireland" map set which was preloaded so I selected the 2nd "Europe" option in the list.
11. Now press OK and you will be asked to restart CoPilot, press "Yes" and CoPilot will exit.
12. Restart CoPilot and the new map set and data region should be set!! You're good to go!!!
PHEW!!!
The issue I was experiencing was (I think) due to the fact that I launched and activated CoPilot without having an SD card inserted, I then tried to insert and download maps but I think the installation had configured itself to look to onboard space rather than the SD card.
I hope this guide is useful for others.
RTFM??? i know theres a download maps section in the settings of copilot..??
Well when you activate it gives you the option to download maps, but it seems to want to download them to the device rather than storage card. There's not enough space on the device and obviously storage card would be a better option, but how?
I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.
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I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.
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But that link requires you to buy maps. I already have a license which I paid for. I have full pan-european map coverage under that license.
I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.
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I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.
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I think you misunderstand, I bought my license well before I bought my HD2, I used to use CoPilot Live 8 on my Touch Pro.
I now have a HD2, I deactivated the license on the Touch Pro and used the same license to activate the installation on the HD2.
I have a blank 8GB SD card to which I want to download the latest pan-euro maps to use with the installation of CoPilot Live 8 which is preinstalled on the HD2.
How do I do this?
Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works
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Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works
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Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!
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Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!
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Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT="]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
How to put it on your memory card:
Step 1: Download CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your desktop computer
Click on the download link above and save the file to a location on your desktop computer
Once the maps are downloaded, right-click on the downloaded zip file and select 'Extract All'
You should now have 2 new folders on your PC: '2577' and 'CoPilot'
Step 2: Transfer CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your memory card
Note: if your phone has a large internal storage (for example HTC Touch Diamond) then you may not need a memory card, and can transfer the maps directly
The easiest way to do this is using a memory card reader
Insert your memory card into your desktop computer's card reader
Browse to the memory card using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders onto the main directory of your memory card
Once the transfer is completed, please insert the memory card into your mobile device
Alternative method: transfer the files to a memory card in your mobile device using a sync cable
Insert your memory card into the card slot in your mobile device
Connect your mobile device to your desktop computer using a synchronization cable
Browse to the memory card in your mobile device using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders from your desktop computer onto your memory card
Step 3 - Install CoPilot Live on your mobile device
If your mobile device is connected to your desktop PC, disconnect it now
Insert the memory card into your mobile device (if not already inserted)
CoPilot Live installation should begin automatically after a few seconds. If not, use your mobile device's file explorer to browse to the 2577 folder on the memory card and tap 'Autorun'
Select an installation location when prompted on-screen. We recommend that you install CoPilot to your device
Follow the on-screen instructions to complete installation
Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).
iphoneresister said:
Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT="]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
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I still have all this information in the original email that ALK sent me and I am sure this method would also work. But the pre-installed version of CoPilot is newer. The one in the email link is:
8.0.0.346
The pre-installed is:
8.0.0.457
Hence I wanted to use the pre-installed version with my existing license. Also by doing a fresh download you ensure that you have the latest maps/data packages (I hope).
jakem said:
Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).
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I think this is where I was going wrong.
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".
Syphon Filter said:
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".
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+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.
johncmolyneux said:
+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.
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Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
I would suggest making this a sticky or something but not sure how many people actually like/use CoPilot. Either way, as long as people use search they will find this thread I may also post a link in the hints & tips sticky, maybe the OP of that thread can work it into his list.
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Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
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Are you purposely looking for me to say +100 again, cos that's what you're getting! lol
That is what the forums are about.
Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.
Syphon Filter said:
Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.
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Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.
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Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.
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Yeah I might hit them up in the morning but they are only open for the morning on Christmas Eve. I will try anyway.
CoPilot 8 and Data Regions (USA)
I have a Touch Pro 2 and downloaded to my PC the software; 1.2 gigs. I'm asking myself with an image file that big why after downloading it to my sd card do I need to download data regions; so upon request I download Alabama; the state I live in. We're travelling to LA later today; does that mean I have to download Mississippi and Louisiana to plot an address for the software? I'm asking myself why with such a large file and I expect it to be a large file; why do I have to download these data regions in the first place; does data imply maps or does it imply "data" features which require a data plan? The software works great, I'm just trying to understand how to plot a 600 mile trip and not pull my hair out too.
The second is CoPilot Central - I'm going this is sync software, but like others who have posted; it wants to put the software on my device and I don't have the memory where an 8 gig sd card should do the trick. I have wi-fi and I'm using the device to do the work. I just think that this part of it wasn't well thought out by ALK.
What else caught my attention was the updated release 12-29-2009. I bought and downloaded the software on the 30th.
So what am I missing here? Must I download all the data regions manually? And if so, what exactly other than audio files is within that 1.2 gig download?
Thanks
What exactly have you downloaded?
Is there a way to store files from programs on the SD card. I am using Co-Pilot GPS and when I install the program on my tablet (from the SD card) it tells me to download the maps. The maps are also on the SD card but Co_pilot can't see them. I had tried to download direct to the tablet but the file is too big for internal memory so I had to download only my state. This has happened with several Apps that I tried to load. Is there a way to redirect the data to the SD and have the program recognise it. Do I need Dexters download??
Thanks,
John
jpsvnh said:
Is there a way to store files from programs on the SD card. I am using Co-Pilot GPS and when I install the program on my tablet (from the SD card) it tells me to download the maps. The maps are also on the SD card but Co_pilot can't see them. I had tried to download direct to the tablet but the file is too big for internal memory so I had to download only my state. This has happened with several Apps that I tried to load. Is there a way to redirect the data to the SD and have the program recognise it. Do I need Dexters download??
Thanks,
John
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Sorry... I don't think anyone has figured out how to get app to work with the SD card yet. eLocity/Stream TV has not addressed the issue. I do believe Dexter is looking into it.
For now I have CoPilot running on my g -tablet, as I don't think it would fit onto my eLocity. You may be able to fit the US maps, but just barely (again just maybe, if the stars align just right). I believe it gives you the option to just download regions or states.
On a device with such little storage available this is a BIG deal!
RojasTKD said:
Sorry... I don't think anyone has figured out how to get app to work with the SD card yet. eLocity/Stream TV has not addressed the issue. I do believe Dexter is looking into it.
For now I have CoPilot running on my g -tablet, as I don't think it would fit onto my eLocity. You may be able to fit the US maps, but just barely (again just maybe, if the stars align just right). I believe it gives you the option to just download regions or states.
On a device with such little storage available this is a BIG deal!
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Does Android have the ability to utilize regular Linux Links? If so, maybe you can install it minimally first with nothing else on the device and then move the directory to the SD card then link to it and add other maps. If that works it would free up local space and allow you to install other apps.
How i can change destination for downloaded maps. I rooted phone on 2gb internal memory, but i want download all europe, is 1.9gb, i have after update rom and applications only 1.5gb free. On sd card i have free 6gb.
THx
Well, I installed copilot Europe maps before I rooted and the 2gb maps went to the SD. The app itself is only 20mb or so, on the internal memory.
Since rooting and having a2sd partition, I've installed gun bros which was fairly big. Again, the app is a few MB on the internal memory, but the data the app uses of 110mb is on the SD card, even though it could easily have gone on the a2sd partition.
I would say try it, it will probably put the 2gb map data on the SD by default.
I take it you have a 2gb a2sd partition. To clarify, by default I believe it will NOT go on there, but on the "regular" partition. And only ~20mb on internal/a2sd
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this is how android works -
Apps can not be bigger than 50mb, thats a google policy, if you need your app to be bigger (like many games are) then you have an app, that can download additional information (such as the maps from co pilot) onto the sd card.
If you have apps2sd partition on your sd card, then it just goes to the normal fat32 part where you store music photos etc.
I've already installed CM7 and am trying to install Sygic and successfully installed. But when I ran Sygic it said that SD Card must have atleast 500 MBs free space. I observed that my SD Card'd only 47x MBs. How can I increase free space of my SD Card (There're any programs installed yet and I used 2 GBs SD Card)? Can I remove clockworkmod folder b'cos they used more space?
Inside clockworkmod folder you have a folder named backup, if you have done any backups of your device then they will be there, they are pretty big so they might free some space if you copy them to your pc or delete them.. I suggest you copy them to your PC because you never know when will you need them
Yes,it works.Your instruction helps me a lot and sygic (aura) still didn't work. But Ndrive and iGo can work but still looking for new updated map.
Thanks.
VRmagician said:
Yes,it works.Your instruction helps me a lot and sygic (aura) still didn't work. But Ndrive and iGo can work but still looking for new updated map.
Thanks.
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I tried to install sygic too, but it wont work, i want an offline map because in my country mobile internet isnt cheap
You could try copilot. I'm using it daily and works fine.
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kemoba said:
I tried to install sygic too, but it wont work, i want an offline map because in my country mobile internet isnt cheap
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I have an absolutely superb offline nav maps of your, and all other surrounding countries only 200 MB heavy, and a fenomenal piece of android software called iGo with which I`m thrilled. Think you should try it too.
itadic said:
I have an absolutely superb offline nav maps of your, and all other surrounding countries only 200 MB heavy, and a fenomenal piece of android software called iGo with which I`m thrilled. Think you should try it too.
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I used iGO about a year ago while i was still on android 1.6, but now i cant find the lowres version
kemoba said:
I used iGO about a year ago while i was still on android 1.6, but now i cant find the lowres version
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You can download from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853197&page=2 .
Do you have removed all "update-cm-....zip" from the sdcard?
It takes 70-80 MB.
Be sure you have a copy in your PC.