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voip using Wizard, it works!

Hi all,
Just a short 'FYI': I've installed the PPC2003SE version of the SJPhone client on my wizard (my provider just introduced a voip service), and it seems to work just fine. Quality is fine, much better than Skype (although I haven't tried the new beta from Skype yet).
Greets,
David

dafit said:
Hi all,
Just a short 'FYI': I've installed the PPC2003SE version of the SJPhone client on my wizard (my provider just introduced a voip service), and it seems to work just fine. Quality is fine, much better than Skype (although I haven't tried the new beta from Skype yet).
Greets,
David
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10x, will definitely give it a try,
a link for SJPhone:
http://sjlabs.com/sjp.html

naughty said:
dafit said:
Hi all,
Just a short 'FYI': I've installed the PPC2003SE version of the SJPhone client on my wizard (my provider just introduced a voip service), and it seems to work just fine. Quality is fine, much better than Skype (although I haven't tried the new beta from Skype yet).
Greets,
David
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10x, will definitely give it a try,
a link for SJPhone:
http://sjlabs.com/sjp.html
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whoa!! this works so [email protected]!
this is a major kick in SKYPE's butt, as they claim 200mhz on wizard is not powerful enough..
guys GO FOR IT!!

Could you please explain how to configure SJPhone for a VoIP-Account?
My Wizard is online with WIFI behind a AP and FritzBox. But there's only one way sound. Means, the other side is able to hear me but other way round there's no noise...
Hope you understand me :?

do you guys know if there's a way to set up the phone and sjphone so I could use it as a normal phone and not a speakerphone?
thanks
a

I am also looking for Sip config.
I have my own provider and thus I cannot have it work.
I get a 480 error all the time.
Thanks

I have downloaded the version succesfully on my .
I use at my home
How to implement and to use now on my. Anybody knows??

This software doesn't support Skype calls, correct?

SjPhone is a great app, I use it every day to call .
To use it you will basically need the parameters from you service (voipbuster, netappel, etc.) and of course your username + passwd
For different settings you can check:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/
For example for voipbuster create a new profile in Options, then just enter :
sip server : sip1.voipbuster.com
domain : voipbuster.com
stun server : stun.voipbuster.com (I also check the send discovered IP in the STUN tab)
Then click ok, and enter your username+passwd and check "Store blablabla..."
Voila

Oh cool, just trying to play with this... but how do you guys answer? When it rings I get a notification window, but with no options and thus can't answer unless I use the "Auto-accept calls" feature...

CJSnet said:
This software doesn't support Skype calls, correct?
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Anyone?

kilrah said:
Oh cool, just trying to play with this... but how do you guys answer? When it rings I get a notification window, but with no options and thus can't answer unless I use the "Auto-accept calls" feature...
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This is a known issue but they said that it will be fixed in theWM5 compatible release.
The current one is 2003SE compatible.
So we must have patience

CJSnet said:
CJSnet said:
This software doesn't support Skype calls, correct?
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Anyone?
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No, it does not support SPYke.
SPYke have their own protocol (not public), whereas SJPhone is based on the public protocols (SIP, IAX).

kelu said:
SjPhone is a great app, I use it every day to call .
To use it you will basically need the parameters from you service (voipbuster, netappel, etc.) and of course your username + passwd
For different settings you can check:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/
For example for voipbuster create a new profile in Options, then just enter :
sip server : sip1.voipbuster.com
domain : voipbuster.com
stun server : stun.voipbuster.com (I also check the send discovered IP in the STUN tab)
Then click ok, and enter your username+passwd and check "Store blablabla..."
Voila
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any chance of a detailed seup guide from you for us voip newbies please? I'd love to get this one going.....
CHeers
Ed
p.s. for me, i only need to do pc to ppc calls and ppc to pc -do i need a commercial voip account for this?

ed.dark said:
kelu said:
sip server : sip1.voipbuster.com
domain : voipbuster.com
stun server : stun.voipbuster.com (I also check the send discovered IP in the STUN tab)
Then click ok, and enter your username+passwd and check "Store blablabla..."
Voila
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any chance of a detailed seup guide from you for us voip newbies please? I'd love to get this one going.....
CHeers
Ed
p.s. for me, i only need to do pc to ppc calls and ppc to pc -do i need a commercial voip account for this?
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first you need an account on their network (netappel, voipbuster and others belong all to sipdiscount.com).
So download the voipbuster app on your PC from www.voipbuster.com, install it, then create an account. This step is necessary to create an account for your PPC later.
Now download SJPhone
http://www.sjlabs.com/softphone/SJphone-PPC2003SE-303c.exe
and install it on your PPC via ActiveSync or whatever (you launch the exe on your computer while the PPC is conected )
After install discaonnect your PPC from the PC, enable wi-fi, connect to the internet and then launch SJPhone from your PCC StartMenu -> Programs.
Then go in the Menu to Options and chose the Profiles tab and click on new. Give it a name like voipbuster, click ok and the intput the settings above in the SIP Proxy tab and the STUN tab.
Then click ok and your ready to ... make calls on the free destinations.
If you wanna be called or to call more destinations, add some credit to your account by logging in with your username and passwd on www.voipbuster.com from your PC.
After adding credit you can also have an inbound number for the others to call you.
Good luck

SJphone button assignment for accepting/rejecting calls
kelu said:
kilrah said:
Oh cool, just trying to play with this... but how do you guys answer? When it rings I get a notification window, but with no options and thus can't answer unless I use the "Auto-accept calls" feature...
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This is a known issue but they said that it will be fixed in theWM5 compatible release.
The current one is 2003SE compatible.
So we must have patience
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I also ran into the problem of not being able to answer calls. I partially solved the issue by going to the 'CE Options' tab in the options menu, and assigning other buttons for 'accept' and 'reject' calls. I used the wizard's 'left' and 'right' buttons, as these are situated right next to the 'answer' and 'reject' buttons. This works just fine.
Greets,
David

One cool application is if you have an Avaya IP Office PBX they have a softphone that runs on PPC with WiFI you can connect back to the office.
I'm still playing with it on WM5 but It's been working pretty well.

I installed this on my K-Jam and it seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues. The other party says they can hear themselves as clear and loud as they can hear me. Is there anyway to improve the echo cancellation? Ideally, I would like the voice to be transmitted through the ear piece and not the speakers.
Also, the call gets dropped after about 2 minutes. I'm sitting right next to my router so wifi signal is strong. Does anyone else exprience this dropping of calls? Also, after the call is dropped I cannot initiate another call unless I close SJphone and toggle my wifi off and on then restart sjphone. Are others also seeing this?
Accessing numbers from outlook is very slow on my phone too.
Otherwise received voice quality and the voice quality on the receiving end is good.
When is the WM5 version going to be ready?

a WM5 beta version of SJPhone is now available here
It handles screen rotation fine and fixed the incomming call notifcation to work on windows mobile 5.

Nobody seemed to answer my question
Is anybody else getting a bad echo? The other party says they get a bad echo when I call them with SJPhone. I can't get the sound to come from the ear piece only the speakers so I am guessing the other party heres their own voice from the speakers.
What's everyone else doing - using headsets?

A voip service working with Windows Mobile?

Hello all,
I'm trying to use a VoIP server from PFINGO on my Kaiser without success. Does anyone known if not all VoIP service works with Wm6? Any suggestion for a VoIP service in India or Asia?
Thanks
Stefano

stemilano said:
Hello all,
I'm trying to use a VoIP server from PFINGO on my Kaiser without success. Does anyone known if not all VoIP service works with Wm6? Any suggestion for a VoIP service in India or Asia?
Thanks
Stefano
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Hi Stefano, i didn't exactly understand what are you looking for, however for voip services you can check here:
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/index.html
http://www.voipcheap.com/en/index.html
http://www.voipdiscount.com/en/index.html
http://www.voipstunt.com/en/index.html
or here
http://www.voip-rates.net/it/index.php
http://www.voipproviderslist.com/
and use any client software; there are a lot free, like fring, SJphone, or you can also use the WM6 Voip app, look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338146&highlight=kaiser+voip
I hope to help you,
google is your friend
ciao

I know there're many voip services, but there's one is know to work with WM6 VoIP client ?
PFingo seems not to work.
Stefano

stemilano said:
I know there're many voip services, but there's one is know to work with WM6 VoIP client ?
PFingo seems not to work.
Stefano
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Hi Stefano
Like dom said ... You can use voipstunt or voipdiscount together with SJ Phone. I have used on WM6 and it works flawlessly over wifi in India.
just create a account on any of the services listed above(Voipstunt/Voipdiscount) and then use the SIP settings listed on their site to configure the SJ Phone client.
Hope this helps.
Atit.

voip

hi all,
I'm a lucky owner of a blackstone since 2 days.
I would like to use voip, i installed wm6voip and setupvoip.
I configured correctly all but i still have "no service".
I have a dell x50v with wm6 too and voip work fine on it.
My HD was sell from french sfr.
Can someone help me ?
sorry for my bad english

anyone to help me ??
What about voip on the hd ??

have a look here
this one works on HD.

6Fg8 said:
have a look here
this one works on HD.
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Not for me! gives the same problem as the wm voipcab (sound from the rear speaker, and low volume)

Try this one:
Fring!
Works very well on my HD!

jacare said:
Try this one:
Fring!
Works very well on my HD!
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Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!

cobrawnl said:
Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!
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I have a different approach. I load WMWIFIRouter on HD, which creates a Wlan and connect a Netgear Skype Handy to this Wlan.
I knoe it a different way but... just a suggestion.

WALTERPAVESIHTC said:
I have a different approach. I load WMWIFIRouter on HD, which creates a Wlan and connect a Netgear Skype Handy to this Wlan.
I knoe it a different way but... just a suggestion.
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Wow wow Wow!
i dont get realy what youre meaning. But i think you mean that you are using WMWIFIRouter on your mobile phone to share your 3G internet with your laptop via wifi... and youre using then a sip client at your laptop ...
Great sollution! But i dont want to need my laptop for making a phonecall to my asterisk server

cobrawnl said:
Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!
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Only if you use skype or msn.
I am almost sure that Fring servers will not be a proxy if you use SIP.

jacare said:
Only if you use skype or msn.
I am almost sure that Fring servers will not be a proxy if you use SIP.
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Hmm, Never mind! I dont like fring.. Have you ever tried the buildin WM6VOIP.cab?
if you see that! you dont ever never jever go back to fring!

cobrawnl said:
Hmm, Never mind! I dont like fring.. Have you ever tried the buildin WM6VOIP.cab?
if you see that! you dont ever never jever go back to fring!
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I know what you mean..... And yes i've tried
But I can't find a way of putting WM6VOIP.cab working with the normal Earpiece.... Just like Fring do....

hmm you need the speakerswitch ... pm me your mail adress.. i will send it to you

Ok so... I've been using VoIP for a while on the HD and those are my findings:
1) WM6VOIP.CAB messes things up with GPS, eg. you will no longer be able to use GPS nor uninstal voip.cab.. so if you want your HD fully functional (as before the installation of the cab).. you have to Hard Reset!
2) My operator (Wind - Italy) blocks VOIP on their HSDPA/3G line therefore forcing you to use WiFi BUT if you use WIFI normally when the phone turns the display off to save power it also disables WiFi.. ending the call. You have to use then Advanced Config to disable this behaviour (always on mode for WiFi)..
I made also different tests and tried different programs and at the end of the day I found the voip experience with WinMo to be very unpleasant at the point where you gladly pay a bit more to make phone calls the traditional way.. (do not forget that you have a consistent lag while speaking in VOIP)..

Eraser85 said:
Ok so... I've been using VoIP for a while on the HD and those are my findings:
1) WM6VOIP.CAB messes things up with GPS, eg. you will no longer be able to use GPS nor uninstal voip.cab.. so if you want your HD fully functional (as before the installation of the cab).. you have to Hard Reset!
2) My operator (Wind - Italy) blocks VOIP on their HSDPA/3G line therefore forcing you to use WiFi BUT if you use WIFI normally when the phone turns the display off to save power it also disables WiFi.. ending the call. You have to use then Advanced Config to disable this behaviour (always on mode for WiFi)..
I made also different tests and tried different programs and at the end of the day I found the voip experience with WinMo to be very unpleasant at the point where you gladly pay a bit more to make phone calls the traditional way.. (do not forget that you have a consistent lag while speaking in VOIP)..
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Hi Eraser85,
There is a solution for the GPS problem with wm6voip.cab there is no hard reset required..
for your 3g problem:
Have you tried to uncheck the checkbox "This connections connects with a proxy server" in your connection settings..
That will help a lot when youre trying to call via 3g
the lag issue is a very little problem. When a call is for free i dont have any problems with that

VOIP or anything that calls over wifi

guys, all im looking for something that lets me call over wifi where i don have any voice or data services available.... i don get any service from sprint when i m in school. but i have wifi available everywhere.... i tried google voice with sipdroid but with no luck. have tried searching web, found a few links but cant get it to work.... i m on sprint evo... if anybody can help get the link or show me some steps on what to do or how to do, that would b gr8... thanks all

fring
10char

Fring (Or Gingerbread's built-in SIP function) with Sipgate and Google Voice.
However, your school is probably blocking all SIP data, so no matter what you do, you're boned unless you can get a VPN working that's very fast, or want to go a bit more complicated and get an Airave and a WiFi bridge.

Google voice? It seems there is a capability but I've never tried it.

drmacinyasha said:
Fring (Or Gingerbread's built-in SIP function) with Sipgate and Google Voice.
However, your school is probably blocking all SIP data, so no matter what you do, you're boned unless you can get a VPN working that's very fast, or want to go a bit more complicated and get an Airave and a WiFi bridge.
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im positive they don block it... tried that sipgate with google voice at home disabling all connections except wifi but cant get it to work.... do u know any link or guide anywhere ??
also doesnt fring need the other party to have fring on their fone ??

Download the free netTALK app, it gives you free VOIP calling to any US number

I have and use skype for that reason. I have not experienced the echo or delay that most voip providers have when using skype.

Sipgate instructions if you scroll down a little. I can confirm it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887131&highlight=sipgate

metallized said:
im positive they don block it... tried that sipgate with google voice at home disabling all connections except wifi but cant get it to work.... do u know any link or guide anywhere ??
also doesnt fring need the other party to have fring on their fone ??
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1) Sign up for Sipagate ONE
2) Sign up for Google Voice
3) Add your Sipgate ONE number as a phone in Google Voice
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP profile in Fring (or just in the Gingerbread settings)
5) Have Fring connect to Sipgate.
6) Have GV call your Sipgate number to confirm it.
7) Receive call. Confirm number.
8) Enjoy.
Using Fring for SIP does not require you to have Fring on the other party's device. SIP is an open standard, and Sipgate acts as gateway between POTS and SIP.
If you can't get it to work at home, it may be your home ISP, or your router, is blocking SIP.

I've played with sipgate VOIP and sipdroid... It's tolerable over wifi, but completely sucks over 3g.
Over wifi, it sounded alot like talking through a tin can (imagine a 16kb mp3). I've used voip with a provider called callwithus (http://www.callwithus.com/), before on the pc over hotel wifi/dsl, and recall it sounded much better, almost as good as a landline call, definitely similar to a cell phone. I suspect sipgate is giving very low priority and bw to the freebie accounts, thus you're getting what you pay for.
Callwithus had relatively cheap rates, something along the lines of 1.9¢/min for domestic calls, so a $10 bucket would get you over 500 minutes. Just checked, us rates are .99¢ a min, so $10 gets you over 1010 minutes. Just another option to consider.

gpz1100 said:
I've played with sipgate VOIP and sipdroid... It's tolerable over wifi, but completely sucks over 3g.
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This is lack of processing. That same 3g connection tethered will work fine. I would think the EVO has the guts to do voip fine over 3g.
Can the EVO not do Voip over 3g at a good quality? Can people post feedback?

drmacinyasha said:
Fring (Or Gingerbread's built-in SIP function) with Sipgate and Google Voice.
However, your school is probably blocking all SIP data, so no matter what you do, you're boned unless you can get a VPN working that's very fast, or want to go a bit more complicated and get an Airave and a WiFi bridge.
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DrM - have you tested the gb setup of sipgate + gv?? opinions? suggestions?

LargePrime said:
This is lack of processing. That same 3g connection tethered will work fine. I would think the EVO has the guts to do voip fine over 3g.
Can the EVO not do Voip over 3g at a good quality? Can people post feedback?
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I'm not entirely sure that it will work if tethered. I think it's more a latency issue than anything else give the number of networks the data has to traverse.
From speedtest.net speed tests here, I get ping times of 100-300 ms. That can't be too good for voip usage.

gpz1100 said:
I'm not entirely sure that it will work if tethered. I think it's more a latency issue than anything else give the number of networks the data has to traverse.
From speedtest.net speed tests here, I get ping times of 100-300 ms. That can't be too good for voip usage.
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I use voip tethered. if the network is bogged, it has issues, but it works otherwise.

drmacinyasha said:
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Using Fring for SIP does not require you to have Fring on the other party's device. SIP is an open standard, and Sipgate acts as gateway between POTS and SIP.
If you can't get it to work at home, it may be your home ISP, or your router, is blocking SIP.
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i just did this, takes 5 minutes. can i link this in my sig?

spiicytuna said:
DrM - have you tested the gb setup of sipgate + gv?? opinions? suggestions?
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i've had this setup before, using the sipdroid app on my hero. it works good i also went with an in-house PBX box to help complicate things. over wifi it works great but on data it really depends on how good your service is.

thedudejdog said:
i just did this, takes 5 minutes. can i link this in my sig?
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Does it work over data?

drmacinyasha said:
1) Sign up for Sipagate ONE
2) Sign up for Google Voice
3) Add your Sipgate ONE number as a phone in Google Voice
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP profile in Fring (or just in the Gingerbread settings)
5) Have Fring connect to Sipgate.
6) Have GV call your Sipgate number to confirm it.
7) Receive call. Confirm number.
8) Enjoy.
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This works quite well actually... if only there was an all free SIP I would make most of my calls this way

spiicytuna said:
This works quite well actually... if only there was an all free SIP I would make most of my calls this way
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did you get dialing out to work without the gvcallback app? or does fring have a callback feature?
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LargePrime said:
I use voip tethered. if the network is bogged, it has issues, but it works otherwise.
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Here in the chicago market, I suspect their 3g network is way over loaded, especially during the day. What market are you in?

[Q] looking to do something new!!

this is gonna come acrossed as weird! but it is what it is
i want to setup my hd2 with no cell provider at all just voip!
i have a 4g hotspot that is mobile and want to use just voip on the hd2
when i try to setup just viop under the rom settings i keep getting carrier/sim error! can anyone point me in the direction of a rom that will do this with out cell stuff in it??
Marc

911pcdoc said:
this is gonna come acrossed as weird! but it is what it is
i want to setup my hd2 with no cell provider at all just voip!
i have a 4g hotspot that is mobile and want to use just voip on the hd2
when i try to setup just viop under the rom settings i keep getting carrier/sim error! can anyone point me in the direction of a rom that will do this with out cell stuff in it??
Marc
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You're going to have to use grooveip or sipDroid its the only way . Its what I use myself . Get a Google voice if you don't already have one . Google voice is free and paired with grooveip I can make free calls to anyone in the USA . Groove was only like 2 bucks too
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thank you so much

911pcdoc said:
thank you so much
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not a problem , i like grooveip better than sipdroid , sipdroid is free but extremely confusing . lol