I'm a newcomer, sorry if I raise this matter again. I'm going to buy a HTC HD2 at the end of this month, and one of the most important issue I'm worried about is the battery life. Because our forum does not allow poll function, so I just suggest some options for you to choose, ok?
I think we should consider it base on normal usage.
1. Below 1 day.
2. 1 - 1.5 days.
3. 1.5 - 2 days.
4. Above 2 days.
Thanks for you help, really appreciate!
I go for 3 when using it normally (my normally of course! which includes not using it during work and using airplanemode at night, whilst listening to music, watching videos, surfing the net from time to time).
1. heavy usage and everything on (auto-updates, wifi, bt, ...)
2. all-day usage in your job (surfing, appointments, messaging, calling)
3. average usage (not during work and just to make a few calls, a few texts, some surfing)
3. hardly using it
d3l1 said:
I go for 3 when using it normally (my normally of course! which includes not using it during work and using airplanemode at night, whilst listening to music, watching videos, surfing the net from time to time).
1. heavy usage and everything on (auto-updates, wifi, bt, ...)
2. all-day usage in your job (surfing, appointments, messaging, calling)
3. average usage (not during work and just to make a few calls, a few texts, some surfing)
3. hardly using it
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Thanks a lot for your comment, really good preference
Look forward to other users' feedback
mine is less than 1 day
in fact, it's close to 12 hours
without any major task such as internet browsing, it could last for 1 day or more , with regular phone calling and texting.
with major tasks, my rough estimate is
pdf browing (very enjoyable on 4.3" screen) about 1 hour uses 30% battery
listening to music, 1 hour about 10%
movies on coreplayer, 1 hour about 30%
internet browsing, using HSDPA, 1 hour about 30%
as you can see, heavy usage drains it fast
however, my settings are 70% backlight fixed, cause the auto light sensor is too dark for me.
I'd have to rate it a 2 on your scale (1 to 1.5 days) but the scale really does depend on usage.
My normal usage would be:
Under an hour of calls in any 24 hour period
5 to 10 sms messages,
Reading through approx 20 mails,
Browsing for 30 mins to 1 hour,
Calendar Usage 20 mins
Catching up on Twitter Messages 20 mins
MyPhone sync daily
Evernote - 20 to 30 mins
Other - 20 mins
I have automatic downloading set as follows:
gmail - as mail arrives
hotmail (Windows Live) - every 15 mins
Twitter - every 15 mins
Weather - every 1 hour
Stocks - every 30 mins
My 3G has been connected for 28hrs 21mins - I think its connected almost 24/7
My charging schedule is most nights from 11pm through 6am and would never normally plug it into a PC during the day as mostly everything is done via 3G / HSDPA.
I never use WiFi.
Hope all that helps...
EDIT: Having read what I've written I'd ask me the question - If you charge every night how do you rate it at 1 to 1.5 days ? - the answer is that sometimes I forget to charge it and have (a few times) made it from 6am (after taking off charge) through to 6pm after work the next day....
I think it's amazing how well it lasts given what it is. Frankly I've got used to charging all phones daily even old Nokias that could last 4 days on limited use. At work I usually top up from laptop and if I'm gone for a long day by train I usually take the proporta usb charger.
If it lasts 18 hours of typical use that is fine.
I left mine on last night .. yes .. doing nothing but it only lost a few percent over 15 hours. It is now nearly 24 hours later and it is still on 62% .. only a few calls .. background pop 3, weather, 90mins web - in a poor gprs signal area for half of that. Yes .. that doesn't compare to an E71 that can stay on doing nothing for a week but who cares. If you need predictability .. top it up each night when you go to bed and you should never have an issue. This is no different from my 3970, 4700, 2750, Tytn, Tytn II or TP2 .. it's a high end pda .. face it .. it needs daily food. That shouldn't an issue unless your stuck in the wilderness.
Paul
if i make heavy use of it.
hspda on constantly.
playing movie 30mins
wifi for around 60mins
calls for 45mins
email check every hr
weather check every hr
from 8am to 11pm i get it down to 18% battery left.
light use.
hspda only on every now and then
no movies
wifi for 30mins
calls 30mins
email manual check about 5 times
weather manual check 4 times
from 8am to 11pm battery remaining is 63%.
so from a personal usage point of view, basically 2-3 days. Not bad IMHO.
I have two HTC batteries, the original and a new spare. I have treated them in the same way and the new spare lasts 20% longer most of the time! So the new spare is the main battery now! I pobably have the following use pattern and I have 40-50% battery left at the end of the day:
- Web about 40 minutes
- Calls about 8-10
- Email sync about 10 times a day
- Other general use (high as i spend a lot of time showing others the HD2) - 30 minutes
Always on 3G or HSDPA
Thanks you guys so much, really helpful for me
So, from your experience, I can say that averagely, HD2 battery can last for roughly 1.5 - 2 days with normal usage. It's not so impressive but I agree with pgamble "it's a high end pda .. face it .. it needs daily food"
I'll get HD2 on Nov 30, so tired waiting for that day to come
I have an HD myself (the old 1), and my battery problems started when using myPhone. Even though it was set to synch at 0400 in the morning, I think the app stays active during the day/when it's not synching, and it uses a lot of battery life.
Try turning it Off. Not just setting it to Manual, but Stop using it in the app. Worked for me.
I had a great experience on stock WWE East Europe ROM, almost 2 days with WiFi constantly ON, push e-mail, auto updates of weather and facebook and etc. I applied power management cab
With 1.48 WWE East Europe, it was very bad, less than 24 hours. Same thing happened with 1.43 WWE East Europe that I downloaded from HTCPedia
hyann said:
mine is less than 1 day
in fact, it's close to 12 hours
without any major task such as internet browsing, it could last for 1 day or more , with regular phone calling and texting.
with major tasks, my rough estimate is
pdf browing (very enjoyable on 4.3" screen) about 1 hour uses 30% battery
listening to music, 1 hour about 10%
movies on coreplayer, 1 hour about 30%
internet browsing, using HSDPA, 1 hour about 30%
as you can see, heavy usage drains it fast
however, my settings are 70% backlight fixed, cause the auto light sensor is too dark for me.
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I go pretty much the same point as hyann
and I am a little bit disappointed with the battery life time, ok it is a 1MHz proc, ok it got a magnific 4.3' screen but HTC sold us different stats, like 8hours video (no way), 12 hours music (hardly) and so on...
Anyway I am still happy and ready to buy a spare battery when available
To me it looks like user profile impacts heavily on battery life. But i've noticed also a very slow charging
process, as if regular USB ports and chargers don't fit the Leo demands.
After a normal day usage charging on the car craddle, Usb connected at office, etc., mi HD never returned home below 80% LEO never makes it above 60%, that's a big difference to me.
Regards.
is this a bigger battery??
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/official-htc-hd2-extended-battery
beyondthought said:
is this a bigger battery??
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/official-htc-hd2-extended-battery
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That's almost twice the capacity of the original!
The standard is 1230 mAh... That should make quite some difference...
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html
I just bought HD2 yesterday and what I noticed is that the phone heats up very much when I'm using it. And the battery comes down very fast - I think it has something to do with the heat.
What is the situation with your phones? Does it heat up also (especially lower part of the phone)?
NiksonCG said:
I just bought HD2 yesterday and what I noticed is that the phone heats up very much when I'm using it. And the battery comes down very fast - I think it has something to do with the heat.
What is the situation with your phones? Does it heat up also (especially lower part of the phone)?
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It depends upon usage. If I've been playing games for a while then the back can get a little warm but most of the time it stays cool. I'd expect the battery to deplete faster if you're doing something hardware intensive that's heating the phone up.
In general, I'm very happy with the battery life. I can get much more than a days usage out of the battery which is more than I expect from such a well specced phone with a smallish battery.
beyondthought said:
is this a bigger battery??
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/official-htc-hd2-extended-battery
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I note that Devicewire aren't expecting any stock until March and the car kit isn't due until some time in January. It's a shame that HTC couldn't have done a better job of having accessories available at launch.
Saw this on one of the Hong Kong forums... I will go pick one up some time.... I only need to put this somewhere for emergency use...
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tsttse said:
Saw this on one of the Hong Kong forums... I will go pick one up some time.... I only need to put this somewhere for emergency use...
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What's the point? You can get an official 1230 mAH instead of this smaller 1100 mAH one if you just need an emergency replacement.
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I want the best out of my phone, so I've enabled a ton of performance increasing reg tweaks and I get my phone to update twitter, email and the weather fairly often but of course all this drains the battery more so then normal which is a big shame.
So basically how can I maximise battery life, any tips or tweaks that will work?
aLlamaWithARifle said:
I want the best out of my phone, so I've enabled a ton of performance increasing reg tweaks and I get my phone to update twitter, email and the weather fairly often but of course all this drains the battery more so then normal which is a big shame.
So basically how can I maximise battery life, any tips or tweaks that will work?
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How often do we have to say that: SEARCH the forum ! There are several threads about this and now we have one more useless thread flooding xda...
There are reg tweaks, auto disconnects and more, just search
undo the performance tweaks would be a start.
If you dont use your microSD card a lot, eject it.
set screen brightness to manual, about 20-30%.
disable GPS location.
Change email/weather/stock/twitter/etc download to manual or set a long time.
If that's not enough, get a bigger battery.
Turning the phone off saves a lot of battery power. This is the best tweak.
With my current usage I remove the charger at 7 in the morning and it turns out of battery at 9 in the evening.. That's so poor...
No MP3, a bit of internet (HSDPA) and a dozen of calls...
I'm a bit desperate...
illanz said:
With my current usage I remove the charger at 7 in the morning and it turns out of battery at 9 in the evening.. That's so poor...
No MP3, a bit of internet (HSDPA) and a dozen of calls...
I'm a bit desperate...
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I know this is another thread on this subject, and it really should be laid to rest, as enough has been said already.
The best policy, without compromising your usage of the thing, is to carry a spare battery with you. That way you can use the device as much as you like and you are guaranteed power at the end of the day. That is the only way - otherwise, you have a smartphone that you effectively cannot use as such because you are terrified of draining your juice.
I'm sorry, but I think that is a valid criticism of the device - the battery life is dire, really bad. If it had an extra 20-30% I would be happy, but the reality is going out of the office for a day, without that spare, I would be terrified of running out by 7pm just by using it for what it is designed for.
rjstep3
The HD 2 is my little superportable "Laptop on the go". My real Notebook (Sony Vaio TT 92) is left at home since I have the HD 2.
The HD2 does everything I would need from a Notebook in everyday life: emailing, netsurfing, writing notes, checking dates, making appointments .......
AND IT DOES MORE ! Navigating in the car, as pedestrian, (with my Aviation program "Flymap") when I fly my ultralight gyroplane, making my wife see where I am (Gylmpse), Checking prizes in the supermarket (Barcoo, Inigma, mobiletag), helping to decide where I´m gonna eat (Aloqua), having weather infos from all over the world, stock exch rates, currency exch rates, weather radar, taking pictures on the go, filming short videos, watching movies in waiting times (TCPMP-player), drafting documents, setting up excel-files, PHONING/TEXTING (yes, never forget THAT) and 100s things more .................. , AND it is my WLAN-Router when I surf on the Notebook
THIS my 3000.- € Laptop CANNOT do and it quits after 6 hours of intensive work AND I have to carry it around strapped to my shoulder.
Now no need for this anymore. I have the HD 2. I work with it from 6 in the morning to sometimes midnight and YES, then it is drained down to 10-15%.
But that is natural !
There are so many solutions to recharge it:
1. a retractable mini-USB-cable + AC/DC-adapter that is just the size of a normal plug (easy to wear in the pocket)
2. with the retractable cable just plug into any Computer USB
3. buy a spare battery
4. order (expensive though) the EXTENDED battery
OR
throw Your HD2 away and buy a cell-phone that can do just one thing: phoning (4-8 hrs) and texting ............................
As long as we don´t have fuel cell technology for PDA-batteries we have to live with it, it´s a matter of physics
troed said:
The HD 2 is my little superportable "Laptop on the go". My real Notebook (Sony Vaio TT 92) is left at home since I have the HD 2.
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A word of warning - I left my VAIO at home when the Asus eee's came out, when I came to need the larger screen of the VAIO again, battery was completely dead - and no replacements available. Scratch one very expensive laptop.
Think hard about replacing that VAIO with something else before it is past its prime ....
rjstep3
Poor Vaio is left at home plugged with the charger (to avoid an escape) and every weekend it serves as backup and install-util for the HD2.........
But since I can do my powerpoint presentations better with the Vaio it has to work every second weekend very hard
............. but presentation is clicked forward by HD2 used as a remote control
sunking101 said:
Turning the phone off saves a lot of battery power. This is the best tweak.
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Dam I was going to say that LOL.
Make sure you maximize the batteries capacity by charging it at every opportunity for as long and as often as you can.
Do this for at least two weeks and you are off to a great start.
Otherwise you will never find out just how good the battery can be.
Actualy i'm quite happy with the battery on the HD2, ofcourse it could be better but it get's me through a day of active use and still has 10-20% at the end of the day.
I normaly unplug it from the charger around 8.30 in the morning, 1 hour of Mp3 while browsing the web / Sending sms or reading my mail.
Then it's left for a 3 hour rest while i'm working/in class, in the lunch i use it for another 30-45min (browsing, sms, email etc)
Another 2 hour rest before i get on the subway and doing the same 1 hour of Mp3 while browsing the web / Sending sms or reading my mail.
When i get home, i make some calls, send some sms, etc etc. And when i go to bed around 23.00 it still has 10-20% left.
I even update the weather once every 15min, Email every 5min, Stocks every Hour, Facebook: every 2 Hours.
Eggy88 said:
Actualy i'm quite happy with the battery on the HD2, ofcourse it could be better but it get's me through a day of active use and still has 10-20% at the end of the day.
I normaly unplug it from the charger around 8.30 in the morning, 1 hour of Mp3 while browsing the web / Sending sms or reading my mail.
Then it's left for a 3 hour rest while i'm working/in class, in the lunch i use it for another 30-45min (browsing, sms, email etc)
Another 2 hour rest before i get on the subway and doing the same 1 hour of Mp3 while browsing the web / Sending sms or reading my mail.
When i get home, i make some calls, send some sms, etc etc. And when i go to bed around 23.00 it still has 10-20% left.
I even update the weather once every 15min, Email every 5min, Stocks every Hour, Facebook: every 2 Hours.
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I have to admit, the HD2 is pretty useful for a schoolkid Of course, we don't use it in lessons (I'm sure the teachers would give anything to confiscate a HD2 and play around with it when no one's looking ) But yep, I like the way the phone balances Power with Speed, considering it's got a 1GHz processor laying within it. Btw I charge the HD2 via USB cable in ICT
Elemental_Fire said:
I have to admit, the HD2 is pretty useful for a schoolkid Of course, we don't use it in lessons (I'm sure the teachers would give anything to confiscate a HD2 and play around with it when no one's looking ) But yep, I like the way the phone balances Power with Speed, considering it's got a 1GHz processor laying within it. Btw I charge the HD2 via USB cable in ICT
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Schoolkid, hehe sure. Im in university so if i want to i can use the phone while i have a lecture, but what's the point in going to class if i just sitt there with the HD2.
Eggy88 said:
Schoolkid, hehe sure. Im in university so if i want to i can use the phone while i have a lecture, but what's the point in going to class if i just sitt there with the HD2.
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when the prof demands mandatory attendance...
Eggy88 said:
Schoolkid, hehe sure. Im in university so if i want to i can use the phone while i have a lecture, but what's the point in going to class if i just sitt there with the HD2.
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Haha so true, get so bored in lectures you gotta have the internet and some games.
Two things I will suggest which will make you OVER THE MOON regarding improving battery life.
1) Install Bandswitch 2.8 which will allow you to auto disconnect any data connections after 'x' amount of seconds. Now you can have facebook, emails, weather, rss, internet,stocks etc automatically connect and disconnect when required. No more checking your data connection status and realising you have been connected for the last 2 hours. I set my Bandswitch app to to auto disconnect idle data connections after 60 seconds.
http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf and click on the Bandswitch Tab.
2) Flash Radio 2.07.50.27 to your phone. This radio is AMAZING for battery life. I have tried a few (inc 2.08) and always come back to this radio. You can find the link to download it and read up on flashing radios more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
I have done both the above. For example, at 3am last night my battery was 100%. It's now 10pm here and my battery is at 58%. That is 19 hours and only used 42%. That is with a few phone calls, web browsing and auto email check of 7 accounts every 2 hours.
tboy2000 said:
... snip ...That is 19 hours and only used 42%. That is with a few phone calls, web browsing and auto email check of 7 accounts every 2 hours.
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That's the key - you are only checking email every so often - I am in business and need to have push email. That is the point of a smartphone - connectivity. I need instant access to and from my clients. I find using push email, the battery drains terribly - almost, almost note, unusable. The Touch HD was never like this. This is as bad as the Kaiser, and that was bad.
rjstep3
rjstep3 well try the sbove 2 suggestions and see if it improves. Radio should at the very least.
I bought an emergency charger from eBay, cost 10AUD. Put it and a couple of 2200mAh AA size rechargeable battery in the bag so I never worried about battery for about 4-5 days outside.
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Now that I am not constantly on it, heres my typical usage. It's currently at 27 percent.
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Could too enlighten me further what exactly is the 1500 battery?
Pooped from my Samsung Vibrant using XDA app...
Dont mind the skidmarks...
^ the stock battery is 1500...
Indeed I've gone overnight without a charge and heavy usage the next day and still wasn't 1/2 way depleted. I think the Super AMOLED has a lot to do with the awesome battery life.
envaderx said:
Indeed I've gone overnight without a charge and heavy usage the next day and still wasn't 1/2 way depleted. I think the Super AMOLED has a lot to do with the awesome battery life.
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"HEAVY usage" is relevant. I've had my Vibrant for 3 days and the battery is unimpressive to say the least. Hopefully, it will improve.
I am not sure what you have to do to prolong the battery life besides not doing anyhting, i.e. I was in the woods this weekend with no service at all, kept the phone in flight mode, used it to snap 3 pictures and 3 vids no more than 1 min each - the result is impressive - unplugged the phone at 7:30AM and by 4PM I had 70% left. Woohoo, I guess, the phone did nothing for 8.5 hours and only drained 30%.
I unplug my phone everyday around 6am and as of now, which is 7hours later I'm sitting at 92%.
What have I done on it as of today? 4 phone calls, 3 emails, took some photos.
Things I don't do all day.
Watch avatar over and over, let it idle on 3G for no reason, let it idle on wifi for no reason, turn off auto brightness.
I do have a regular schedule of charging.
I plug it in around 11pm turned off
I turn on my phone around 540am and leave it on the charger. I'm always greeted with the Its full unplug message around 6am.
how come your display use is only 8 percent mine is like 74 percent even tho i have it set on the lowest possible......
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how come your display use is only 8 percent mine is like 74 percent even tho i have it set on the lowest possible......
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Thats saying out of all that time his phone has been on, his screen has been on 8% of the time.
If you use your screen a lot the number will be higher and I'm sure the more battery that would be used.
Great results so long as you don't need any network access for email accounts to work. That's not really an option for a lot of people. I have to have either 3G or WiFi on at all times to receive emails. SMS messages will come in over GSM so if that is what you do rather than email than you can turn off WiFi and 3G and still do texting.
Email works just fine over 2G (EDGE). I've found that setting it to 2G-only while keeping WiFi enabled (setting to stay on during standby) if in one location for a long time works better than keeping 3G enabled.
YMark said:
"HEAVY usage" is relevant. I've had my Vibrant for 3 days and the battery is unimpressive to say the least. Hopefully, it will improve.
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What is your build date? Find manufacturer date on box or inside phone.
I get good battery life... only gone down 1% since I unplugged it from being fully charged in 30 minutes with the display usage at 84% with GPS on.
KerryG said:
Great results so long as you don't need any network access for email accounts to work. That's not really an option for a lot of people. I have to have either 3G or WiFi on at all times to receive emails. SMS messages will come in over GSM so if that is what you do rather than email than you can turn off WiFi and 3G and still do texting.
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yeah, tomorrow, i'll try to leave wifi and 3g on all day and come back with the result.
Checked my standby draining today. Lost 10% in 7 hours and 10 min. Look good, no ?
This is with: Google account sync calendar and contacts, push exchange email, 3g, auto sync
Must add that Tasker is also running and set to check everything to 30 min intervals
I have owned this phone since day one and am convinced that wifi is the biggest battery killer for me. I unplug it at 730am in the morning listen to live stream podcasts on the way to work and back (35 min commute). Make a few calls and texts, check all my normal websites on my breaks and when I get home at 630, I still have about 60%. In the settings I leave gps off and wifi on so when I get home its automatically on. By 930 the phone is at 15% so I am convinced its the wifi.
Having a screen this nice is worth the mediocre battery life, its actually better than my g1's battery life, so I am happy.
2800 Mah batteries on the way...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Vibrant...00-mah-5-off-/130424331592?pt=PDA_Accessories
kizer said:
Thats saying out of all that time his phone has been on, his screen has been on 8% of the time.
If you use your screen a lot the number will be higher and I'm sure the more battery that would be used.
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I'm not sure, I think it means of all the battery that has been used, 8% of it went to the screen. I would also like to know how you got that fantastic number! I usually have my brightness on minimum since I mostly use it indoors, and the screen is by far the largest consumer of battery power, even on days where I mostly listened to music (local, not net streaming) with the screen off...
I'm definitely getting better battery life out of this than my previous smart phones. Currently at 55% 1d20h unplugged. Light use, but still.
My battery on my dell streak drains very fast. For example i had it plugged in until 100% in the morning. Then about an 1 hour and a half laater without using it that much it draimed to 67 %. The battery usage says cell standby 49% and the screen was 17% and those were the highest. From my nexus one i kno that cell standhy should not be that high. What is causing this to be so high? And why is my battery draining so fast?
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Are you on1.6 or 2.1? mind was the same on1.6. Loads better on2.1. But I have also noticed that if you are in an area where 3g is poor it spend slot of energy trying to connect. I turn of data quite allot and it doubles battery life. BeforeI was getting less than a day now I get a day easily...... UnlessI have a load of widgets
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Im using 1.6, then 3g then probably is the problem. Did u do anything to fix this problem?
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I had similar problem and deleted my task manager, as amazingly it was using more battery than running applications
It also stopped 'fancy 'widget from updating, even when told to ignore it
'Appbrain' market was also another major problem, i also think that 'smooth calendar' doesn't help; but i'm still experimenting.
thanks for reply, im using advanced task killer, maybe i ll try taking it off to see if it affects the battery in anyway
If you look in the battery tab you should see where your biggest power hogs are.
Mine happened to be media.
I had removed all the media from my SD card, forced redection etc and it still drained the battery.
Eventually, I removed all ringtones and music from the SD card and did a hard reset, ran it for a full day monitoring the battery usage. Now I'm adding a bit of music back to see if it was a bad media file that caused the indexer to draw power.
For me the battery usage is almost 60% cell standby...then every other small thing piles in. Why is the cell standby so high. I would think that the display would be the highest
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I'm having the same problem on my streak that is running 2.1 in the USA.
so is there a solution for this problem??
Arkalos13 said:
so is there a solution for this problem??
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Delete ALL your apps
Weatherbug also drinks batteries, but it's so good this time the good outways the bad
I havent purchased my streak yet, does anyone know if 2.1/2.2 will have better battery consumption on this device?
you guys are scaring me..lol
Nobody can say for sure what the upgrade with have until it's released.
My experience is thus......
Widgets drain battery
T ask managers drain the battery, I now use watch dog
The biggest one by far.... The data connection drains battery. Especially if its a poor connection.
So first thing is to turn of 3g etc when not required. I get a day easily. If I add widgets I get a day just. This is with location gps and sync turned on all the time
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I was haviing normal smartphone battery life, about a day, then started having some trouble so I uninstalled some apps. But, I also let the battery die completely overnight then charged it full and am now on day three at 55%
Houndx said:
I was haviing normal smartphone battery life, about a day, then started having some trouble so I uninstalled some apps. But, I also let the battery die completely overnight then charged it full and am now on day three at 55%
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Day 3 at 55%? Do you have a SIM card in your phone? Data enabled? 3 days and only 45% battery life drain is unreal. I have a fresh restore and my Streak barely makes it through the day still, no widgets installed, no network-activity causing apps running in the back, no task managers. The battery life on this phone sucks.
3G has been on the whole time as well as wireless networking and gps. Bluetooth was turned off until about noon today. For widgets I've got Weatherbug Elite, Jorte Calendar, 3G Watchdog, System Info and Latitude. The phone has had pretty light use for the last few days because I was doing some work around the house, but I did use it for the occassional game of solitaire and as my ebook reader at night as well as a few short calls.
Today, on the other hand, I've made several phone calls (more than a dozen, some longer some short), have had bluetooth on half the day, wireless enabled and a small amount of surfing. I went from 55% at 8AM to 19% at 9PM.
I think the battery meter was in need of proper calibration and that's why I did a full discharge and recharge. I'm as shocked by what's happened as anyone else.
Oh, I've also had Juice Defender installed both before and after the full discharge/recharge. Before I did that I wasn't even getting 12 hours out of the battery and that's why I tried it.
Dolphin browser HD, no sh%t, my battery went from approx 95% to 3% overnight. 9 hours
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My battery life has been pretty good for me, when I go to bed it's at 100%, come morning after 2 alarms it's usually at 97%. I usually have 3G & Bluetooth on. Then throught the day I don't use the phone much besides the odd text and odd e-mail, with a couple games of Robo Defence, and come 9 in the evening I'm usually around 40% which is pretty good considering that I get crap signal at work (very weak signal with the occasional signal drop) and I know that usually uses a lot of battery.
However, the other night, I went to bed with 100% on the phone and some time between then and 6 hours of sleep, the phone had died completely. Couldn't turn it back cos there was absolutely no charge in it...need to charge it a bit before turning it on. Quite worrying as I use the phone as an alarm during work days (luckly it was the weekend) and I don't acutally know what caused the massive drain
Thought I'd share my experiences here with you guys....
I've had my Streak about 4 weeks now, it's a US Beta version, on TMO US so no 3G, only EDGE. The only widget that uses data is Weather & Toggle. I have had sync and Facebook sync turned off, and only use GPS sparingly.
I tried everything - I started turning off the data connection (3G/EDGE in the top right menu) and basically uninstalled every program I thought could be using battery. Still, it would go from 100% at bedtime to around 60% in the morning. I then tried Airplane mode. Still was draining! I then installed Juice Defender, and it actually went from 100% to 0 - it died that night! D'OH! The whole time is was a 50/50 mix between "cell standby" and "phone idle". It doesn't show any programs using battery. I also tried Drain-o-meter, but it didn't show anything else either.
Well here's what finally fixed it for me -- turn back ON the EDGE/3G data connection and leave it on!!!
I'm guessing there are things running in the background (my guess is Weather Toggle widgets but the drain was still there even after I uninstalled it), possibly system processes, that require a data connection. In my case, that fixed it... now it goes down from 100% to about 92-95% overnight. Now I just leave the data connection on and it's all good!
I'm not saying this will work for everyone else, but hopefully maybe there's at least 1 other Streak user who has the same problem.
I was not happy with my streak's batteryperformance either (stock ROM), until a recent discovery.. It seems the Mail client (not gmail or touchdown) caused a partial wakelock if I had set it to 15min intervals (have 2 accounts) Draining approx 10% every hour.
After I set it to sync every hour, I dramatically increased the battery time.
Today when I checked it I had only used 3% in 5 hours (normally it would be minimum 30% in the same time)
I suggest you check your settings if you have the Mail client set up with accounts.
This changed my perspective on batteryperformance TOTALLY!
There are many users who complain about the exchange's rapid battery of SGS2 , and there are those who feel the contrary, just like any,
the first day at work, communications , surf the internet in Wi-Fi and bluetooth headset connected always .. after approximately 5 hours of
battery 91% .. .. .. ie. 2%/hr
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And go to bed and the device by 60% .. .. .. Thanks GOD
But why should others suffer???
Reason - the service provider device FastDormancy . The aim is to ease the pressure on mobile networks and ease the pressure on the phone (battery), but the networks that support that feature are few worldwide , therefore the device remains in search mode for the service - high temperature and battery drain !!
Solution:
Use the phone and call
* # * # 9900 # * # *
Disable fast dormancy
TO
reboat . .. ...
I use this , it workes FiNE for me
THANKs to Taiseer999 - ce4arab
ENJOy
Oh good. Another battery life post.
thanks ill give this ago, although i dont really have any battery drain if i can have more then ill be even happier
Vodafone and t-mobile in Holland support fast dormancy, so for people on those networks this might not be a good idea.
If - for any reasion - disabling Fast Dormancy did not do any good to your SGS2 , then you can change the file that in turn is Ptbtii the dormancy and thus reduce the pressure on the battery .
just another way required rooted device
- unzip att. file to UR device
- using Root Explorer
- move the file to :PHP
/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/
THANKs to Taiseer - ce4arab
ENJOy
It might be another battery post but as its been posted before Fast Dormancy may help some .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111581&highlight=fast+dormancy
But not as much as a search button would help XDA .
jje
abumhmmd1 said:
There are many users who complain about the exchange's rapid battery of SGS2 , and there are those who feel the contrary, just like any,
the first day at work, communications , surf the internet in Wi-Fi and bluetooth headset connected always .. after approximately 5 hours of
battery 91% .. .. .. ie. 2%/hrENJOy
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Give me a break, so you turned the SGS2 device into a 50 hr per discharge device, and all this via a small tweak.... ?
abumhmmd1 , I will give it a go and see what happens, on another subject , where did you get the green circular battery level icon it looks great!
Thanks
John.
Noam23 said:
Give me a break, so you turned the SGS2 device into a 50 hr per discharge device, and all this via a small tweak.... ?
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PPC battery consumption affected by persion daily use , signal strength , and device itself .
as of myself , with normal use
88% in 35 hrs .. .. .. ie. 2.5%/hr
I'm sorry, but SCREEN should be on top! That is the biggest drain on this device and any other touch screen. I don't get any "drain". At 3 AM this morning I woke up, unplugged my phone which was on wifi and had cell coverage, and checked my messages and went back to bed. At 8:00 I woke up and it was still at 100%. I don't have any drainage going on. Now, while USING my phone, my screen rockets up to 40-60% of the reason why it's discharging. So.... THAT'S normal. Your display is UNDER 20% ... You aren't really using it that much then, are you? Post a screen shot of that usage hehe.
your post is bs as usual.. i have my sgs.. same on att networks and it last 2-3 days. sgs 12 hours.. so it is not the network.
lgkahn said:
your post is bs as usual ..
i have my sgs.. same on att networks and it last 2-3 days. sgs 12 hours
.. so it is not the network.
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I said in tittle : let's think quietly
when I go in picnic .. countryside , the signal was week .. that cused my device NS to serch for signal most of time , and thus decreased the battery life .
It really depends what provider you are using and in which area... for me it doesn't result in better battery life (Vodafone).
i.e. disabling HSDPA with *#301279# brought for me much more battery life in 3G...
Ffs man, you couldnt find another battery thread to post this in? Really? How exactly is it 'sooooo' different?
C
ome on man, think quietly and USE the search function, and then discover that this 'solution' has been posted weeks ago.
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I'm sorry, but SCREEN should be on top! That is the biggest drain on this device and any other touch screen. I don't get any "drain". At 3 AM this morning I woke up, unplugged my phone which was on wifi and had cell coverage, and checked my messages and went back to bed. At 8:00 I woke up and it was still at 100%. I don't have any drainage going on. Now, while USING my phone, my screen rockets up to 40-60% of the reason why it's discharging. So.... THAT'S normal. Your display is UNDER 20% ... You aren't really using it that much then, are you? Post a screen shot of that usage hehe.
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I agree, display should be on top. 10% display means you've had the display on for 15 minutes MAX over those 4 or 5 hours. Display is normally on top for moderate usage - heavy usage and it will make up 80 percent battery drain. The problem with battery drain is that its subjective. Heavy usage to one is moderate usage to another. I would consider the usage in OP very light
If turning fast dormancy helps though, I guess it could help a few.
Nothing to see here move on
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blue265 said:
I agree, display should be on top. 10% display means you've had the display on for 15 minutes MAX over those 4 or 5 hours. Display is normally on top for moderate usage - heavy usage and it will make up 80 percent battery drain. The problem with battery drain is that its subjective. Heavy usage to one is moderate usage to another. I would consider the usage in OP very light
If turning fast dormancy helps though, I guess it could help a few.
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Yes, but that wouldn't change how much your screen uses. He has read the forum since posting and hasn't posted a screen shot. I unplugged my phone 30 minutes ago, and my phone is at 80% screen usage as no other things are being used. For the screen to be at 19%... Well, it must be to turn it on, check the clock and then off again! Regardless of Fast Dormancy helping or not, it WON'T affect your screen on time, or how much you phone uses during use. I imagine to this person standby time is more important than on time. I prefer to get 1 full day of screen usage, than 3 days of standby as I charge the thing every night regardless.
Still didn't work for me. Android system is eating up all the power.
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Guys is my battery backup ok? I have turned OFF Active sync, GPS is off, GPRS is off, and now I have also disabled 'Fast dormancy', though I don't know if my network supports it or not. I also have installed Set CPU and its on Ondemand profile. Brightness is Auto always. Now what I mainly do is I browse a lot. Today I noticed that on Wifi with stock browser the battery is decreasing at a rate of 1% in every 3-4 mins. That means after half an hour browsing battery will decrease around 7-8%. I am on stock XWKE8. Is this battery backup/draining normal or high?
Thanks in advance.
Ok... my list goes like:
Display 80%
Opera 6 %
System 3%
Core 2%
App 2%
App 2%
App 1%
...
skipped alot, but my screen uses the most, no matter what, i tuned everything, no matter if fastdormancy is enabled or not.
No more then 5h active usage.
The only theory left, is that we have a little different display. Mine is super amoled + for sure, no probs, color looks amazing.
But try to set the display on 25% brightness, this will give you like a half hour more. not 10% not 50%, 25%! there is a thread about that, search!
OK after i got my Arc S i already saw better battery than my old X10.
but after a while it started to get all "android" on me again in terms of ****ty battery.
after using better battery stats and digging all the web for solutions on the subject (yes i got pretty obsessed about battery ever since i had android), i've pretty much found out 3 simple stuff that pretty much takes up most of your battery on standby and even actual use of an android phone.
before i did that i woke up 8 hours later just to find out that at night on standby my battery ran from 100% to 86-90% when i woke up. (on my x10 i woke up with 76-80% lol)
keep in mind im a very heavy usage user on my android and i do literally EVERYTHING ON IT.
anyway 3 simple stuff to do:
1. log out of latitude, drains the battery like crazy.
2. disable auto sync for gmail, contacts and regular email (i use hotmail so i use the email app, dont have gmail)
3. be connected to your home or office wi-fi as much as possible.
keep in mind i do have whatsapp in the background and other regular apps that still ran as a service but they dont drain battery much apparently (i thought they were always the problem btw)
i unplugged my arc s from the charger with 100% fully charged battery at 4am and went to sleep..
..woke up 11 hours later at 3pm (yes weird day lol), had 18 missed calls, 6 sms messages and 5 voicemails which means the phone had the screen on for each call and the speaker played my ringtone every call and sms and even voicemail notification plus i had my alarm clock which i kept pressing the snooze on..
i was amazed to be with 96% after 11 hours!!!!! OMG
at the same day at 11pm i was left with 27% battery after all day had 1:20 hours voice calls, 2:50 hours screen display on.
i was also outside and im always on 3g and also used my gps on google maps for about 20 min.
finally happy about my frikin battery on my android device !!
edit:
my setup:
custom gingerbread rom with ice cream theme,
locked bootloader,
rooted,
supercharged V6
At&t usa
Sent from my amazingly gorgeous and sexy Pure White Xperia Arc S [=
Nice
I think this will help you. if it does please THANK me.
Sent from my Blade
"If you want to save battery on your smart phone, don't use it as a smart phone."
Of course background services will use energy, but I have them on for a reason.
The best battery saving tips (for those who use their phones)are brightness and keep an eye out of resource hogs and unwanted background services (Facebook app).
I found that rooting and removing all the bloat-ware vastly improved my battery life as it gave more RAM which meant my phone had to do less memory management.
Andy
mety333 said:
1. log out of latitude, drains the battery like crazy.
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But that would mean that Google can't track my location anymore
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On topic:
This app is a very convenient and simple way to view your battery usage.
Badass Battery Monitor
GSam Labs
mety333 said:
2. disable auto sync for gmail, contacts and regular email (i use hotmail so i use the email app, dont have gmail)
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If you have a android and have done the registration on the first time, you have a GMAIL acc.
Btw, add this solution. Works for every phone.
- Go to WiFi & network settings > Mobile Network > Networkmode > Set it to "ONLY GSM"
this will make the mobile-antenna to find one connection and stand there (Mostly this gives the best signal strenght), but the WCDMA and WCDMA/GSM will search for other connections all the time and consume more battery
the only negative side with GSM is that your calls will connect 1~2 sec. slower compared to WCDMA and if you fall out of the signal range, youre out untill the antenna finds new one (but the strenght is good so dont worry)
TheHaso said:
If you have a android and have done the registration on the first time, you have a GMAIL acc.
Btw, add this solution. Works for every phone.
- Go to WiFi & network settings > Mobile Network > Networkmode > Set it to "ONLY GSM"
this will make the mobile-antenna to find one connection and stand there (Mostly this gives the best signal strenght), but the WCDMA and WCDMA/GSM will search for other connections all the time and consume more battery
the only negative side with GSM is that your calls will connect 1~2 sec. slower compared to WCDMA and if you fall out of the signal range, youre out untill the antenna finds new one (but the strenght is good so dont worry)
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Or you can set it to WCDMA only. Setting it to GSM only would be disadvantageous as most smartphone users need a data plan and 3G has far better internet speed.
Turning off the auto sync helped me a lot. I just manually check my email at regular intervals.
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Seiously, these are all the most obvious "battery tweaks". Tose are the first things that would come up in my mind...
I can safely say it's not a definite solution.
Most if not have already turned the Auto sync off.
Latitude for most users doesn't run to start with and even in some cases not even
installed.
Wifi and HSPA is a given this is pretty much ON all the time for most since were power users. (6gb data plan) can't complain for 20$.
Bluetooth in some cases but rare.
Full charge your phone and if your a power user within 14 to 16hours your usually left with about 10% battery usage.
Take into consideration that this is a rooted Xperia Arc S with bootloader locked.
If I leave it alone fully charge when I go to bed and wake up in the morning I usually have about 7% gone in roughly 8hours of standby that is taking into account your have the standard 1500mah battery.
I would highly suggest getting the 1700mah MUGEN battery it's worth the extra 50$. May not make much difference for some but it does for other.
zangetsu2188 said:
Or you can set it to WCDMA only. Setting it to GSM only would be disadvantageous as most smartphone users need a data plan and 3G has far better internet speed.
Turning off the auto sync helped me a lot. I just manually check my email at regular intervals.
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Thats right, but if you dont use the mobilenetwork, the GSM is best
mety333 said:
OK after i got my Arc S i already saw better battery than my old X10.
but after a while it started to get all "android" on me again in terms of ****ty battery.
after using better battery stats and digging all the web for solutions on the subject (yes i got pretty obsessed about battery ever since i had android), i've pretty much found out 3 simple stuff that pretty much takes up most of your battery on standby and even actual use of an android phone.
before i did that i woke up 8 hours later just to find out that at night on standby my battery ran from 100% to 86-90% when i woke up. (on my x10 i woke up with 76-80% lol)
keep in mind im a very heavy usage user on my android and i do literally EVERYTHING ON IT.
anyway 3 simple stuff to do:
1. log out of latitude, drains the battery like crazy.
2. disable auto sync for gmail, contacts and regular email (i use hotmail so i use the email app, dont have gmail)
3. be connected to your home or office wi-fi as much as possible.
keep in mind i do have whatsapp in the background and other regular apps that still ran as a service but they dont drain battery much apparently (i thought they were always the problem btw)
i unplugged my arc s from the charger with 100% fully charged battery at 4am and went to sleep..
..woke up 11 hours later at 3pm (yes weird day lol), had 18 missed calls, 6 sms messages and 5 voicemails which means the phone had the screen on for each call and the speaker played my ringtone every call and sms and even voicemail notification plus i had my alarm clock which i kept pressing the snooze on..
i was amazed to be with 96% after 11 hours!!!!! OMG
at the same day at 11pm i was left with 27% battery after all day had 1:20 hours voice calls, 2:50 hours screen display on.
i was also outside and im always on 3g and also used my gps on google maps for about 20 min.
finally happy about my frikin battery on my android device !!
edit:
my setup:
custom gingerbread rom with ice cream theme,
locked bootloader,
rooted,
supercharged V6
At&t usa
Sent from my amazingly gorgeous and sexy Pure White Xperia Arc S [=
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Nothing new actually. In standby/idle mode I loose hardly 4-5% in 7 hours during night.
These are the most common battery tweaks.
In fact if the phone is alive (with 10% left) after 20 hours of heavy use, then i am happy.
With my Rooted device with 0.58 firmware, i get a 18-20 hours [brightness set to 40% always] of heavy using that includes, 2hrs of browsing on WiFi, 2 hrs of music, 40 mins HDGame, 2-3 hours voice call, 30-40 mins of video (occasional) and i check email in every hour and and reply, so that's good for me.
I appreciate you sharing your advice, but there are some points that are not so convenient and here is why:
mety333 said:
before i did that i woke up 8 hours later just to find out that at night on standby my battery ran from 100% to 86-90% when i woke up. (on my x10 i woke up with 76-80% lol)
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Why not leave the phone plugged in while you're sleeping?
Stock Arc battery has overcharging protection, which means that there is no risk harming it if you leave it on charger for 8-10 hours.
It will charge to 100%, then decrease to 95% and start charging again.
As a matter of fact, those small charge cycles can turn out to be beneficial for the new technology Li-Pol batteries.
mety333 said:
1. log out of latitude, drains the battery like crazy.
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Agreed.
But there are cases when people use Latitude to their convenience.
For example, I tend to leave it on while travelling and I've taught my father how to use it on his (my old) X10 so that he won't have to call me all the time to see where I am.
mety333 said:
2. disable auto sync for gmail, contacts and regular email (i use hotmail so i use the email app, dont have gmail)
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Now that just doesn't make any sense.
One of the major Android features is that you can get your Gmail messages instantly and, in some cases, even substitute text messaging altogether.
I have 3 Gmail accounts on my phone and they are in autosync 24/7, because otherwise my phone is pretty much as useful as a Nokia S40 phone.
Not to mention that polling (refresh at a specified rate) drains way more battery than push notifications which Gmail utilises.
mety333 said:
3. be connected to your home or office wi-fi as much as possible.
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Agreed.
Especially in low signal areas, WiFi can save battery because the phone doesn't constantly trying to establish data connection. However, forgetting to turn WiFi off when leaving your home or office hotspot range can result in even bigger drain, as the phone will intermittently look for available WiFi hotspots.
mety333 said:
i unplugged my arc s from the charger with 100% fully charged battery at 4am and went to sleep..
..woke up 11 hours later at 3pm (yes weird day lol), had 18 missed calls, 6 sms messages and 5 voicemails which means the phone had the screen on for each call and the speaker played my ringtone every call and sms and even voicemail notification plus i had my alarm clock which i kept pressing the snooze on..
i was amazed to be with 96% after 11 hours!!!!! OMG
at the same day at 11pm i was left with 27% battery after all day had 1:20 hours voice calls, 2:50 hours screen display on.
i was also outside and im always on 3g and also used my gps on google maps for about 20 min.
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Personally, I feel you are sacrificing vital features just to stall your battery meter.
This is not as wise as you make it appear to be, because if each one of us carefully considers it, we will realise that there are very few hours within the day that a plug is not accessible. We have cars -there are car chargers, we are at home -obviously there are sockets, we are at the office -there are PCs thus USB ports. Heck, I've even charged my phone on a DVD player with a USB port in a presentation room once! In my opinion, it's about time we stop whining about how "our old phones lasted a week even if we were playing Snake all day" and adopt new charging habits.
Then again, how one uses their phone, it's their business.
However, the thread title can be considered misleading, as I reckon your advice is respectable, but in no way a widely applicable solution.
If I'm staying over at a bud's place/gf's place and have no charger/microusb handy, or I'm out and battery is running low, I do one thing:
1. Turn off data (I use a nice on-screen toggle for this).
This alone lets my battery last faaaaar longer.
Why dont you but a nokia 3310 and stop whining?
the reason we buy these phones is cause of the amount of things we do on them. disabling these features is just pointless and turns the phone back intoa dumb phone
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