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Yep, I've done it AGAIN - left the bloody thing on a plane!
Despite being a pretty fair contributor to the early days of solving this newborn's issues, I'm somewhat undecided as to whether it's worth replacing. Hope u don't mind me bouncing my thoughts off you, while I debate degrading to a JAM or PDA2 - I'm pretty sure that my cynicism will be refuted more strongly here than anywhere else:
Downside of JasJar:
Big n bulky meant that I kept on putting it down - and losing it! And if one more cheeky bastard commented on my retro brick...
I pretty much stopped reading eBooks. Read 120 in 1 year on the PDA2 and raved about it, but on the JJ it was tough to hold in bed, and the buttons were too small to page down easily. I just faded on that which is rather sad.
Hinge was definitely working loose. A post I've made covers tightening it up by bending the plate, but I'm not sure where the end game of this falls...
In SA, it's way expensive (given that I lose them every 3 months). However, I'm going to the UK end January, perhaps I can get a cheap one and unlock it? Or is it not cheap given the contract? I think I can use UK addresses and banking details to get a contract, or do they require more than that? Thoughts anyone?
Software: So few games work well! And we still havn't solved the GPRS/3G traffic counting issue
Battery: Daily charging was indeed a ball-ache.
Radio quality: Hell this sucked! Now that I'm using an old Nokia, I'm trully understanding how bad all iMate radio stacks are! And BT gave so much trouble that I wondered if it was better without; crackling, echo, etc etc despite testing 3 top-end BT headsets. Still, the JAM is not that much better.
Stability: Let's face it, despite all our work to free up memory, close apps, run lean-n-mean, the damned thing was still dicky. You had to reset every few days at best, how many times did you look at the screen and see that the call you made 25 minutes ago was still in progress (Hell, what have I just been saying about the dickhead I was chatting to??), and altho I was a storng advicate of it being usable with a little effort, the truth is was that it was never as fast as the PDA2
Upside of JasJar
IIWPO likely to stay in memory. However, JAM allows for ROM hacking to secure this, and my JasJar hasn't phoned home in 3 days. I'm now figuring out that the issue is not whether thieves have the ability to hard reset, but rather whether they are intelligent enough to track down a charger for this new device - I think not!
Persistent storage: But in truth I was better off backing up the PDA2 as at least I could recover when it was lost. Now it's gone, all I have is my Outlook backup - no eWallet, no notes, no s.sht that I spent so long working on to justify my SL55 to the wife (and I was oh-so-close to succeeding...)!
3G! Yep, that was AWESOME. I used mine as a modem frequently, and with data rates in SA being so low, it was a truly workable alternative. However, I didn;t really use it for browsing (IE browser renders SO slowly with bad bad caching), and for email I only d/l headers which can be done on a JAM's GPRS. So, why not a JAM with an EDGE or 3G PCMCIA laptop card?
Keyboard! Loved it! But in truth I didn;t use it as much as I expected. The occasional email where I could nto wait to get back to my laptop, and quite frankly if I'm that desperate, why not use SBP Full Screen keyboard?
VGA: LOVED my slick WAD desktop with oh-so-glossy pic of my CLK55, but in truth I was the only one who ever looked at it and I get to see the real thing every day anyway! VGA browsing via Oz was kewl, but browsing was slow. Terminal Services was AWESOME, and I think that's probably my main concern. Loved getting into my eMule server and seeing how it was doing - or grabbing an eBook within 5 mins of being told about it!
Media player in VGA: Yeah, I liked that. But in truth the PDA2 was more stable for running mp3 playing apps, so it's pretty video vs mp3 - in truth the mp3 got used more - tho neither were used all that much.
Landscape: Naah - this was never a useful thing for me.
Hmm, as you can see I've pretty much convinced myself that it's back to to a JAM or PDA2...anyone able to pull me back from the retro abyss?
PS: There was a post where ppl covred what they were using their JJ for and why it was a worthwhile upgrade. Can't find it now - anyone mind giving me a string to search on?
I have put in some comments below, hih!
Downside of JasJar:
Big n bulky meant that I kept on putting it down - and losing it! And if one more cheeky bastard commented on my retro brick...
---Little difference between this and the PDA2K in size
I pretty much stopped reading eBooks. Read 120 in 1 year on the PDA2 and raved about it, but on the JJ it was tough to hold in bed, and the buttons were too small to page down easily. I just faded on that which is rather sad.
---I have read at the same rate since going from other PDA's to Universal, but I do it in landscape.
Hinge was definitely working loose. A post I've made covers tightening it up by bending the plate, but I'm not sure where the end game of this falls...
---Yeah, the jury's out on this one
In SA, it's way expensive (given that I lose them every 3 months). However, I'm going to the UK end January, perhaps I can get a cheap one and unlock it? Or is it not cheap given the contract? I think I can use UK addresses and banking details to get a contract, or do they require more than that? Thoughts anyone?
Software: So few games work well! And we still havn't solved the GPRS/3G traffic counting issue
---spb GPRS monitor?
Battery: Daily charging was indeed a ball-ache.
---Switch off 3G
Radio quality: Hell this sucked! Now that I'm using an old Nokia, I'm trully understanding how bad all iMate radio stacks are! And BT gave so much trouble that I wondered if it was better without; crackling, echo, etc etc despite testing 3 top-end BT headsets. Still, the JAM is not that much better.
---It's a tradeoff I guess for all the extra tech inside
Stability: Let's face it, despite all our work to free up memory, close apps, run lean-n-mean, the damned thing was still dicky. You had to reset every few days at best, how many times did you look at the screen and see that the call you made 25 minutes ago was still in progress (Hell, what have I just been saying about the dickhead I was chatting to??), and altho I was a storng advicate of it being usable with a little effort, the truth is was that it was never as fast as the PDA2
---Not as quick to the eye, but also seems to be ok in real use. I get about one reset a week at the moment with my minimal install
Upside of JasJar
IIWPO likely to stay in memory. However, JAM allows for ROM hacking to secure this, and my JasJar hasn't phoned home in 3 days. I'm now figuring out that the issue is not whether thieves have the ability to hard reset, but rather whether they are intelligent enough to track down a charger for this new device - I think not!
---Tea leaves only need a mini-USB lead to charge it. Now as they are likely to be on crack I guess they sold their computers already. Might take some time to have it phone home. You can inactivate the device to all through the IMEI number
Persistent storage: But in truth I was better off backing up the PDA2 as at least I could recover when it was lost. Now it's gone, all I have is my Outlook backup - no eWallet, no notes, no s.sht that I spent so long working on to justify my SL55 to the wife (and I was oh-so-close to succeeding...)!
3G! Yep, that was AWESOME. I used mine as a modem frequently, and with data rates in SA being so low, it was a truly workable alternative. However, I didn;t really use it for browsing (IE browser renders SO slowly with bad bad caching), and for email I only d/l headers which can be done on a JAM's GPRS. So, why not a JAM with an EDGE or 3G PCMCIA laptop card?
Keyboard! Loved it! But in truth I didn;t use it as much as I expected. The occasional email where I could nto wait to get back to my laptop, and quite frankly if I'm that desperate, why not use SBP Full Screen keyboard?
---Learn to love landscape. I don't use portrait ever these days.
VGA: LOVED my slick WAD desktop with oh-so-glossy pic of my CLK55, but in truth I was the only one who ever looked at it and I get to see the real thing every day anyway! VGA browsing via Oz was kewl, but browsing was slow. Terminal Services was AWESOME, and I think that's probably my main concern. Loved getting into my eMule server and seeing how it was doing - or grabbing an eBook within 5 mins of being told about it!
Media player in VGA: Yeah, I liked that. But in truth the PDA2 was more stable for running mp3 playing apps, so it's pretty video vs mp3 - in truth the mp3 got used more - tho neither were used all that much.
---PDA2K has a 'pop' on MP3 playback - the reason I couldn't stick with it.
Landscape: Naah - this was never a useful thing for me.
---Learn to love it.
here's the other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35069&highlight=
iiwpo
I have a universal (qtek 9000) with the latest o2 rom. I have read that iiwpo works on the universal, but have not been able to do it. I edited the cab file exactly as per the instructions. The guide then says to edit the config.txt file from the rom. I opened it in text editor, but there is no reference to '
5. just before the line
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPEnable.exe
insert a new line (provided the name of the CAB is "IIWPO.CAB")
CAB: \Extended_ROM\IIWPO.CAB
My config.txt file contains no such line 'tpenable.exe'
I tried the other method described in the forum by just putting the iiwpo.cab file in 'my documents' and executing it. It installed itself into windows and the windows startup folder. Changing the owner name and resetting does nothing. Any ideas would be much appreciated.
I'd add your Q to the IIWPO thread in here as this is OT to this thread.
Thank You.
craigiecraigie4
maybe you might want to wait for new models that will be launch this year? Perhaps there will be more better models launching soon like this loox T800 model ? IMHO.
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...or try the K-Jam in the meantime:-
Smaller, more convenient, more responsive, more buttons, better radio, much better battery, more stable, better bluetooth, more free memory.
If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar on the K-Jam, and much of it works better - especially as a phone, despite the price.
Let me put it this way:
"If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar"
You can do it in any other htc device since the himalaya.
ncruz said:
Let me put it this way:
"If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar".
You can do it in any other htc device since the himalaya.
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Read it again. I said need "the bigger keyboard", not "a keyboard". Last time I looked, the only HTC devices that have keyboards are the Blue Angel (which he used to have), Universal (which he lost) and the Wizard. Unless you include the Treo and the Ipaq Messenger of course
Im just about ready to jump for one of these babies but am finding that as soon as you settle for one device you have a doubt and see something else and your like ohhh whats that ...
The next phone I get I want to stick with for at least a couple of years so you can imagine im taking this decision very seriously.
I have a home wifi network and really want this to be able to surf the net with wherever I am in the house. I have an ipaq 2215 which I never use as its always somewhere where I am not and I really want the benefit of always having my device with me because its my phone.
Whats the browsing software like on the mini and the signal on the wifi ? I have used a nokia 9500 in the past and thought the browsing was superb. Full page web sites across the screen and all you had to do was scroll down, no scrolling across to the other side of the page.
Does the mini do full screen browsing in landscape mode ? I use a lot of forums. Would this suffice ?
Is wm2005 the same as you would get on an ipaq or is it a special phone edition ?
Are there any websites I can check out to see what software is available ?
Im sorry for all the questions, but am going out of my mind trying to make this decision. Found the phone for £99 and £19 month on 02 which seems reasonable.
Any help or tales of glee about this phone would be most appreciated.
Fantastic forum btw.
Could anyone take some screen grabs of a few web pages in Landscape mode so I can see how it looks ?
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Hi,
Have you ruled out the exec? Seems an all road better option for you if you are gonna have it as your main phone and device for a couple of years, mainly due to its superb screen and laptop style mode and screen protection when folded in on its self etc?
Bryson
bought xds mini s aftercomparing with exec.
excellent device. clear screen, small (exec is tonne), good keyboard. v.fast browsing using wi-fi. also good on gprs. wm5 good update over wm2003. this seems to be a good implementation of it as other first implementations were not so good (xda exec/universal and dell x50v upgrade). IE is also much improved on wm5, you can now set it to shrink text and the web page to minimise horizontal scrolling. this works very well on the xda mini s in landspace.
points to watch out for, apps start slower then on wm2003 due to static ram being used. minisd - any old sd cards you have will not work. some people report cpu is slow, I have not found this at all, like any pocket pc you don't want to keep lots of things running. I use the 'magic button' software which has just been updated to wm5 to kill apps after use. only gripe is that latest version of skype for_low_cpus (1.2.0.91) doesn't work well. I understand skype know of the problem and are releasing a new version soon.
in summary, if you want a small and light pda for web browsing, or a full featured pda to use as a phone as well, this is probably the best. if you want 3G or a vga screen look elsewhere.
what is the xda mini s like when using tom tom and watching divx/xvid?
I have been using the 9100 since it came out and have been happy with it so far. I debated getting a Universal but lack of a 3G network in the US, size, and the fact that the Universal is not a quad band pushed me towards the 9100. My previous phone (PDA2K) was on the edge of being too big for me to carry everywhere so I suspect the universal would have proven too big in the end in any case.
So I have a few gripes with it but overall it is nice.
Gripes:
If you get a Wizard, get an external stylus. The Stylus silo is probably the single largest flaw I know of at the moment. It will not last 6 months of normal use, much less years. Already mine is a little loose, I only use the built in stylus in emergencies. I suppose I could ship it back under warranty but that would be annoying.
There are no really good cases for it either. The case that comes with it will do but it is hardly great. If I had the time and a shop I would make a rotating clamp style csae, but seeing as I have neither I'll make do with what I have.
I have had a couple instances where the radio stopped working but gave me no indication, this might be restricted to the 9100 or me though since I have seen no other reports of this problem. (has happened about 1-2 times a month since I got it.)
When not plugged in I have problems keeping a constant connection on my wifi with WPA. I use IM+ from my PDA and would like to be able to rely on wireless at home, but I can't. It works well but drops me for a second every once and a while dumping me off my GTalk, AIM, ICQ, etc... Hopefully a ROM update will help this.
On the positive side:
Browsing is as good as you are going to get at QVGA. I have problems logging into some forums from it though. Might try your forums on such a device before jumping.
Keyboard is great and the sliding mechanism seems to be holding up much better than the silo. Time will tell.
Bluetooth is good, though not excellent. Unlike the PDA2K it is usable and reliable.
WM 5 has been more stable for me than 2003SE was. I still end up soft resetting every day or so, but have not had the stability problems I had with 2003SE. I install and use quite a few applications though (53 by counting in remove programs but some have multiple parts.) so my stability issue might have nothing to do with the OS itself, which seemed stable if boring before tweaks.
One handed operation is possible. I make heavy use of MortButtons to allow me to switch/launch/close tasks. Even without though one handed operation is getting there.
In conclusion it is a rough decision. Right now I think this device is the perfect compromise of size, performance, and functionality for me. The hard part is there is always something newer and better on the horizon so when you decide to bite the bullet is a tricky question. My feeling and impression of the Wizard is that it is not a device made to last. A year, prehaps two, but if the desire is for a real commitment to a device I would wait a generation and see what it coming out next.
I find the external stylus fine. it is telescopic, and I read a magazine review where they didn't work this out and said it was too short! (PDAEssentials UK - although they give the wizard a top rating)
My wifi works excellently. WPA is choppy on some routers. I always used to have problems with many devices using encryption. now i don't use any encryption but just register mac addresses so no one else can use my router.
There are some great cases just coming out for this new device:
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=302&t_mode=cat
It feels very solid to me. this was also verified by cnet and pdaessentials review. it is plastic, that really keeps the weight down. Metal would appear to feel more sturdy but i think this is an illusion.
for the question about tom tom, version 5.21 works, see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29277
betaplayer is not yet optimised for the omap 850 although it seems to work for most (the 850 has a 2d accelerator with 384k, but no one in the open source community knows how to use it yet. I am sure there will be plenty of software over time as this is a new device):
http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&expv=0&topic=2155.0
pockettv runs ok.
The best performance is encoded wmv files played through the internal windows media player.
when you get one, on first boot it asks which install you want. pick basic as the full install puts on active apps that really slows things down.
enjoy
Thanks for all the info. Im so close to jumping for one of these I can almost touch the screen ;o)
I notice on the second web browsing pic ( This is reaaaaaaaaaallly important to me as I will be doing a whole load of browsing at home via wifi ) that there was no horizontal scroll bar. Will IE automatically resize any webpage so you only have to scroll up and down ? I hate it when to read everything you have to scroll horizontally as well.
Also does it give you full websites or does it detect your on a PPC and give you a mobile version ? What if a website doesnt have a mobile version ?
The only other thing that concerns me is that there is obviously a massive amount of things to do with this phone ... but is the cpu up to it ? I remember reading about the nokia 9500 being slow but when I used one I really didnt have problem with it.
Will it be noticably slower than using my old ipaq 2215 ?
Anyway thanks for the info.
Also as a last point, the deal I am going for, the exec is only £49 extra and the tarrif is exactly the same. I really prefer the mini size, but is the exec far and away better than the mini apart from the size ?
knowsleyroader said:
Thanks for all the info. Im so close to jumping for one of these I can almost touch the screen ;o)
I notice on the second web browsing pic ( This is reaaaaaaaaaallly important to me as I will be doing a whole load of browsing at home via wifi ) that there was no horizontal scroll bar. Will IE automatically resize any webpage so you only have to scroll up and down ? I hate it when to read everything you have to scroll horizontally as well.
Also does it give you full websites or does it detect your on a PPC and give you a mobile version ? What if a website doesnt have a mobile version ?
The only other thing that concerns me is that there is obviously a massive amount of things to do with this phone ... but is the cpu up to it ? I remember reading about the nokia 9500 being slow but when I used one I really didnt have problem with it.
Will it be noticably slower than using my old ipaq 2215 ?
Anyway thanks for the info.
Also as a last point, the deal I am going for, the exec is only £49 extra and the tarrif is exactly the same. I really prefer the mini size, but is the exec far and away better than the mini apart from the size ?
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its mostly personal opinion. I played with both the exec and the mini before I chose the mini. The main thing that swung it for me was the 3g browsing didn;t seem to be much faster then the gprs browsing. the exec screen was ok, but could have been bigger given the device and the exec was really heavy. the other thing that swung it for me was speaking to the o2 guys. they are selling loads of minis and none come back. they sell fewer execs but some are returned (can't tell the %age though). Also if you read the faults in the universal thread of this forum and then compare them to the wizard thread. At the end of the day, i really suggest you go into the shop and try both.
In direct answer to your questions:
1. IE in WM5 has more options for screen formating then Wm2003. (a) One column - minimises side scrolling and converts web sides to single column. (b) default - shrinks web sites to eliminate or minimise horizontal scrolling (I like this one bests), (c) desktop - shows full size for horiz and vert scrolling.
2. Not sure how it notifys web servers. Yahoo email seems to think it is IE 4. But I think it sends a mobile code as well and some websites automatically show you the mobile formatted version.
3. I had and axim x50v (624 mhz) and i don't notice any difference. however apps are sluggish to start up, but this might be a wm5 thing to do with static memory. the cpu is slow (200mhz) but is not an intel, and seems to process better. there is a very interesting description on the ti website. Its actually a triple cpu. but despite what people say on the web, it only has 1 generic cpu. the other two are a comms cpu (for gprs, wifi, etc) and a 2d accelerator with 384k of onboard memory. This explains why web browsing over wifi and gprs is so fast (well for gprs, as fast as it goes). some apps do not take account of these other 2 cpus, so run slow. but as the omap 850 is a new cpu, perhaps more software will take account of it over time. tcpmp (divx) player works very fast, no troubles there., and other software seems fine. I run the 2003 version of gs+ and tre and they work fine. the only software that annoys me is skype. the latest low_cpu version does not work very on the xda mini s. reading the skype forum it seems they know about it and might write a version that will use the omap 850 better. In summary it runs pretty fast, but the flat out rate of the cpu is slow and some programs may not run as well.
enjoy!
Many thanks for all the help. I will post here what I plump for and my thoughts
colonel. Just to clarify, my problem is not with the stylus but with the silo in which the stylus resides. Over time the retention mechanism gets loose, and sometimes breaks.
Thanks for the link to the cases by the way. The two leather ones appear to use the plastic sheet in between keyboard and screen trick, which is no good ot me. The aluminum case has potential though.
knowsleyroader, have fun with whichever you choose. If you can I would try and see both in person before making your choice.
Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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Let's get down to business! What is it? Well, it looks an awful lot like a Gear 2, but it doesn't run android. However, that's not a bad thing, when you consider its $50 price tag from http://www.gearbest.com, where mine came from. It shipped in a generic "smartwatch" box, as shown in the unboxing video below:
Specs:
- CPU: MTK6260 360MHz
- 1.54 inch Touch Screen 240x240
- MicroSIM slot
- MicroSD slot
- Bluetooth 3.0
- 450mAh Battery 3.7V Li-ion (Reported: 72 Hrs Standby, 6 Hrs Talk, 8 Hrs Music)
- Micro USB port
- Size 58x39x12.5mm
- Weight 55g
- Accelerometer
- Vibration
- Microphone
- Speaker
- MicroUSB Earphones Included
Features:
- Pedometer
- Anti-Lost Alert (both for connected phone and watch)
- QWERTY keyboard with both T9 and handwriting prediction
- MP3 Player
- Sleep Monitor
- SMS
- Phonebook
- Music Player
- Remote Camera
- FM Radio
- Calendar
- Ringtones
- Multiple Language Support
You can either watch the video (I'm not a thespian or read the review right here. I decided to wear it for around 5 days prior to writing this, to get a feel for how I'd use it in the real world and how it stacks up to the competition that I have at my disposal. The watch is surprisingly comfortable, as well as stylish. It's very similar in design to the Gear 2, which I enjoy. For reference, I very much dislike wearing my Omate TrueSmart because it is so uncomfortable, but sometimes forget that the S28 is even on my wrist. I plugged it into the wall to let it charge for a little while, with the included microUSB charger, and then connected it to my HTC Desire 610 via bluetooth. I then downloaded the free companion app to my phone, which was also painless due to the QR download code being right on the watch. I basically scanned it with barcode scanner, then sideloaded the APK after it downloaded onto the phone.
Once up and running, you can select which apps from your phone you wish to display on the watch. I used everything from LINE Messenger to my iSmartAlarm home security system. Everything came through to the watch perfectly, and at the settings I selected. If you don't want an app to show up anymore, block it. Simple as that. I found myself blocking Facebook after receiving many many notifications at once and being distracted at work when I didn't need to be. Again, it was all very painless and I was pleasantly surprised. This is something that many Android based watches have problems with. They try to be both a watch and a phone, and can't be the best at either one. I've also had many issues with them not receiving notifications properly, or not receiving ALL notifications that you want to receive, which was not at all the case with the S28.
The watch itself is hard plastic with a metal faceplate and capacitive touch screen that's very responsive to touch, despite what my clumsiness in the video may lead you to believe . I LOVE that it's capacitive for only $50. I was actually expecting much less than I got for my money, to be honest. The screen is bright and relatively easy to read outside. It's not the greatest in direct sunlight, but to be honest, I've yet to find one that is. The only things I noticed myself really wishing for were a shake-to-wake feature of some kind, so I didn't have to press the button every time I wanted to see the time, and a way to remove the analog clock, or at least change it. I much prefer digital myself.
However, again, for the price, you simply can't beat it. My friends were in awe as I showed them the differences between this watch and my usual daily drivers, and I may have even convinced a few of them to give it a try. The watch has 2 functions in particular that I'd not used before, the remote camera and the "anti-lost" function. The first lets you use your watch to actually control the camera on your phone. You can see the viewfinder through the watch and walk around the room to take a picture. Not going to lie, I took a few full body selfies, and no, you can't see them. It worked well, and if you weren't taking a picture, it was also neat just watching the phone's viewfinder through the watch, like a remote security camera. The other feature was called "anti-lost", but is essentially a "find my watch, find my phone" feature, that will let you find the other if you have one of the two.
It has many features you'd find in a typical feature phone, such as SMS, phonebook, calendar, mp3 and mp4 player capability, and an FM radio. The pedometer works well, but you have to physically start it before walking, similar to most fitness apps you'd find on your phone. Again, I was spoiled with my MotoACTV's always-on pedometer. It has a sleep monitor, but I've yet to play with it. Soon, friends, soon. The on-screen keyboard is small, but works well and has many options including predictive text (T9) and handwriting recognition.
I did have one issue with the watch or the phone disconnecting and reconnecting with my bluetooth every so often, but in all honesty, I'm blaming that on the phone more than the watch. It was a cheap phone after all. I will be doing some more testing on that part when I replace the power button on my GS3.
3 things this watch has, that everyone else making watches out there needs to take note on: Built-in microphone, built-in speaker, and vibration function. It's literally a mini phone on your wrist, with decent battery life and talk time. Color me impressed.
If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!
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Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!
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Thanks for the review. There's a review for it already by st7ler, but its good to get a second look, how many days battery are getting from it? Its similar to the U8 Pro, not sure which to buy.
I keep mine turned off at night, and I got 4 days before I recharged it. Not sure exactly how many it'd last though, because I never let it run completely down lol
Thanks. And your typical use for the 4 days was...?
Could you do me a favour and try bluetooth tethering please? [emoji106]
I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
Thanks for the review. Looks good smart watch. Its app connection is stable?
It was stable for the most part, and if it disconnected, it quickly reconnected all by itself. I think my phone was the unstable part.
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I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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Shame it can't do bluetooth tethering, it would have not needed a data plan.
http://vifocal.com/zgpax-s28-watch-...-1-54-inch-screen-smart-bluetooh-sync-fm.html $43 and $3 off if you like them on farsebook or google+
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I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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@ClearD - are there any functions to control the phone from the watch?
I don't believe so, it's sort of like a standalone watch phone that also reads notifications from your primary phone
It's possible to add new analog look? Or change shortcuts on descop?
Use An Android Phone As A Dashcam
This is at least the 60th car accident I've been in this year. I swear it's not my fault but as soon as the judge sees my driving record, I'm toast! I've been telling myself that I'm going to get a dashcam for the past few years and I just never get around to it. If a dashcam is just a camera that starts recording when the car is moving, then why can't I just use that old Android phone that's collecting dust in my BDSM chamber? Well now you can!
This will work best with a phone that has lots of storage or an SD card slot.
To convert your phone into a dashcam, you'll want to use the app DailyRoads Voyager.
Download DailyRoads Voyager
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You'll want a sturdy window mount to get the best footage. you can find them on Amazon for around $20.
Here are some of the features you'll get with the DailyRoads Voyager app.
Background video/photo capture, with optional buttons over other applications
Auto start and shutdown based on car dock detection and related options
Videos/photos are timestamped & geotagged
Automatically determine street address of retained videos/photos
Display videos/photos location on a map
Display speed, elevation, timestamp and GPS coordinates on videos/photos
Option to change speed units (km/h, mph) and date format
Overheating protection
GPS can be disabled to reduce power consumption
Brightness adjustment option allows less distraction when driving at night
Built-in file manager, video/photo browser
There are several apps that offer dashcam recording but this one definitely has the most useful features. Give it a shot and stop putting off getting that dashcam!
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This is a great idea! I am going to try this out with my old phone.
This looks great, going to give it a go with an old phone. One question, can you have the phone screen off while driving and it still records or does it need to be on?
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This looks great, going to give it a go with an old phone. One question, can you have the phone screen off while driving and it still records or does it need to be on?
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The screen has to be on but you can just set it to be very dim.
AutoGuard supports background recording:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hovans.autoguard
This is a nice idea that maybe 90% of the people already looking for a dash camera thought about.
The real problem here is not finding a suitable application (like the one you thoughtfully suggested) but having your phone actually behave like a normal dash camera: turn on when the car turns on, turn off after you turn off your car. Especialy, not having the huge delay in starting up as every android phone has: a dash camera starts up (I mean from totally off, with a dead battery sitting idly in there) in just a few seconds.
The first problem might be solved with tasker, joining the "charger on/off" event to the video recording app, the second one is not easily solvable IMO.
I wouldn't know tho, since I own a chinese dash camera which sadly has no GPS, but which I paid less than any decent second-hand android phone (16€ because I wanted a "good" one) and worked as intended straight out of the box without any intervention on my part other than setting up the resolution
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This is a nice idea that maybe 90% of the people already looking for a dash camera thought about.
The real problem here is not finding a suitable application (like the one you thoughtfully suggested) but having your phone actually behave like a normal dash camera: turn on when the car turns on, turn off after you turn off your car. Especialy, not having the huge delay in starting up as every android phone has: a dash camera starts up (I mean from totally off, with a dead battery sitting idly in there) in just a few seconds.
The first problem might be solved with tasker, joining the "charger on/off" event to the video recording app, the second one is not easily solvable IMO.
I wouldn't know tho, since I own a chinese dash camera which sadly has no GPS, but which I paid less than any decent second-hand android phone (16€ because I wanted a "good" one) and worked as intended straight out of the box without any intervention on my part other than setting up the resolution
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Well, the solution is not let the phone switch off. I don't think its much of a problem considering the fact that it will be connected to the charger throught out the drive
Pauses when the veihicle is turned off might drain the battery in standby for so long that the phone could turn off automatically. Chances are also that the old phone you put in your car for this purpose already has a dying battery (not that brand new battery won't die pretty fast by being on charge during most of the time)
Unless you take power from a different outlet than the cigarette lighter, which is powered on only when the car is on, but that in turn will drain the very own car battery, albeit it's got way more power reserves, but still a overdrain risk if your car stays off for long periods.
Having to remember to turn the phone off and on again when you need it is still bothersome, plus as I said it will take some time to be operative when you turn it on.
I thank the op and others for bringing up the two suggested dashcam apps (DailyRoads Voyager & AutoGuard Dash Cam), and I agree that a phone doesn't "act" like a built-in dashcam (e.g., go on and off with the ignition switch) but I wouldn't expect an Android dash-cam app to be as good as a built-in system anyway.
It just needs to work, where I'll test the two suggested dashcam apps on my next road trip, but I will note for others first that I had to loosen my FOSS Google Play Store client to even find the two suggested apps above (both, unfortunately, require GSF and both even more unfortunately, contain ads).
DailyRoads, free, contains ads, requires gsf, rated 4.1, 1M+ installs
AutoGuard, free, contains ads, requires gsf, rated 3.8, 1M+ installs
The goal, of course, would be to find a dash cam that is at least as good as those two but without those two unfortunate developer decisions (which I understand why they choose them).
UPDATE: The AutoGuard Dash Cam app requires a login to a mothership which, even though it allows for "guest", seems like something an app suggested for general purpose use should never need, given the obvious negative privacy implications. Maybe someone can expound on why it needs any login to anything when all it's supposed to be doing is recording onto your own personal device.
Voyo has released its latest Tablet PC named Voyo Vbook V1 ultrabook with windows 10 Tablet PC. Chinese Tablet Makers now focused on the productivity laptops Now this Voyo Vbook v1 is the one of the laptops.
Voyo VBook V1 is hybrid one powered by Intel Z8300 processor up to 1.84Ghz, it has 10.1inch 1280*800 pixels IPS screen which can offer wonderful experience gaming test and video playing. What’s more, it runs Windows 10 OS, which is the latest operating system for more excellent interface, and compatibility and running better effect to let you enjoy the better experience.
Voyo Vbook V1 has RAM 4GB ROM 64GB internal storage, couple with the Cherry Trail Z8300 Quad core processor, the overall speed can be enhanced completely, and if you are a game player, you can enjoy the better and faster experience in playing games and watching videos. Of course you can download the high definition videos to store in your phone for your more convenience.
Voyo Vbook V1 has built in 9,000mAh battery which can support long time working, you don’t have to worry about the power without charging it frequently.
Therefore, Voyo Vbook V1 is a nice tablet pc with high-end performance and sell at the nice price for most customers.
And will be overcome Chuwi Hibook or
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9000mAh seems plenty Let's hope it will be an affordable option, because I like the specs and I would love to give it a try
There are so many Chinese ultrabooks coming out, they all look sleek and cost around $200.. I want to get one so badly..
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Got mine two weeks ago.
I tried to dual boot Ubuntu 16.04 with windows 10, but I had an issue with Ubuntu boots in portrait mode.
I changed the GOP vBIOS or something, and now the device won't boot any more.
Just black screen.
Tried to connect HDMI cable but no luck.
Also I can't access BIOS to reset the configuration.
The device come with no CMOS battery, so hard reset will not be an option.
I left with find the device firmware (ROM or BIN) and find the boot combination keys to try the last option or RIP my device .
BR
Voyo V1 experiences
Bought one of these, Win10/Android 5.1 dual boot version.
The physical build is very nice. Massive, great craftmanship, metallic looking (but plastic) top and bottom, not bending, the hinges are strong.. to the level you need two hands to open it. It is even problematic to pick it up from the desk, it is not really offering a place to grab it.
The sound is okay, speakers are at the bottom - though I don't know why didn't they lead the sound out at the sides where it rounds up at the bottom, I suppose there would be space inside (didn't take it apart to look).
The touch pad is not very sensitive, multi touch but tends to do weird things like for example instead of scrolling (two finger swipe up/down) it resizes the window instead by docking it (under windows at least, haven't used it much under Android). It has no specific driver, so no way to fine tune it, no idea who the manufacturer is either, it comes up as standard HID device.
The flash disk is one of the slower ones (no idea again) but it's acceptable.
The keyboard however, is terrible. The island type, which would be okay, but the buttons when pressed go way under the level of the surrounding plastic mesh and the finger gets stuck, or it doesn't register the press. You can only type by finger tips, literally, which is not very comfortable at all, and especially at such a tiny keyboard. I actually took the device apart and cut the mesh out, it still looks alright but much better to type on.
Windows came activated, in english, no problems there. It switches to droid and back by a built-in app. Droid is not rooted.
The battery usage tracking is not working neither under windows or droid; it shows rapid discharge then continues working for hours at a few percent (as it thinks). It says "battery usage data isn't available" and in Windows just "Calculating..." for ever so you don't have a real clue about when is it going to shut down.
I measured with a USB charge tester and from empty it loaded ~11600mAh into it so the battery capacity is okay, the problem lies somewhere else. Charging took overnight, it takes a lot of time to load 11k by 5V/1.45A.
Under droid the sw keyboard kept popping up whenever I went to an input field - I have never had similar problem with external keyboards, fortunately "null keyboard" app offers a workaround.
I haven't found an alternative ROM for it nor have an idea how to root making it work as-is.
So considering the above I'd give it 6/10 tops.
I bought mine from Gearbest. Took two months to get. Wrong color. Case they recommended is 2 1/2 inches too small. After four hours of use it won't power up.
any other feedback on keyboard, battery indicator, sleep mode on Android ?
Thanks @MistycSr & @Funky54 for your feedback on the Voyo VBook V1 !
I must say I am tempted to buy one of these netbooks because it's cheaper (Gearbest : $208 with android http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_331052.htmlhttp://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_323958.html or $188 without android : http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_323958.html ) & lighter than the Asus Chromebook Flip (and with native Android & Windows also).
Does everybody have problems with the keyboard & the battery indicator ?
Does it run OK with android ? Does the sleep mode work OK on android ?
(I tried android on my asus t100ta , it worked good except that it would'nt go to sleep ...)
PS : after checking on another forum there is a file for a dual system (Windows & Android) installation on voyo's website : http://en.myvoyo.com/xiazai/Win%20Pad/VBOOK%20V1/down/ ... so adventurous people can save $20 if they want to install android afterwards
weight : 790gr or 1070gr ?
Also what is the real weight of it ??? most pages on the internet say it s 790gr (which would be really light !) but some pages also say it's 1070gr ...
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Also what is the real weight of it ??? most pages on the internet say it s 790gr (which would be really light !) but some pages also say it's 1070gr ...
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I found the answer : it’s 1006gr : http://win-tab.net/readers_review/voyo_vbook_v1_readers_review_1604031/
(maybe I am going to buy an asus chromebook flip as it can run android apps now …)