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Ctrl Key - Does it exist or how?

Has anybody worked out if the keyboard has a Ctrl key or a function that works like Ctrl , handy when quitting apps eg Ctrl Q.
Or editing.
I couldnt find it when I used the device.
Cheers

That's very strange because I have it on my MDA II's touchscreen keyboard. Are you talking about the touchscreen keyboard that you have to pop up by pressing the up arrow in the lower right-hand corner in the Messages app for instance?
I wonder whether this feature would also be ROM-dependent.

i meant the hard keyboard not sip. its on sip but when i used the universal i couldnt see it.

Yes I am interested in the Ctrl button on the universal as well, I owned a XDAIIs and found the keyboard on that didn't have the Ctrl key either so you can't do CUT/COPY or paste unless there is another way. I cut and paste heaps so the keyboard was useless to me on the XDAIIs.
Any one know if there is another way to do this on the Universal Keyboard.

what a wind up this is, cant believe they missed the ctrl button off the proper keyboard.

The keyboard has Cut/copy/paste function, so I am happy.
Jasjar is the most awesome PPC Phone yet.

there is a screen tap key (a bit like the right mouse click key on a full computer) this brings up the menu option, with copy and cut in it !! then you can just pres the relevant letter on the keyboard, thus having the same effect (ie press a function key then C or T or V).
PS its Fn [Space] key

cool... i wondered what that key did! that is useful!

[ctrl] is used for more things than copy+paste.
I use my Exec to communicate with *NIX servers using Pocket PuTTY. [ctrl] is kind of essential.

Agree, using putty is a nightmare without a ctrl key. Is there any way of mapping another key to do the same function

Keyboard

I have a mogul, and I was wondering how you type certain keys on the keyboard. Ideally, I would like to be able to type escape, ctrl- and alt- keycombos on the physical keyboard, but if that's not possible then I'd like to be able to do that using the SIP keyboard. Also I'd like a way to type F-keys using the SIP keyboard.
I tried using AEKMap, and it simply didn't work. I noticed that on the PocketPutty homepage, it shows a SIP keyboard with an alt key, and another SIP keyboard without one. I have the latter, and I would like the former.
Anyone have any ideas? I think it's ironic that I can type any international character I want, but I can't type basic things like escape and alt.

I don't think windows mobile supports those keys anyway, which is probably why we don't have the option of using them anywhere.

That's not true. Many WinMo apps display ctrl+ shortcuts and the soft-keyboard contains those keys.

kmartburrito said:
I don't think windows mobile supports those keys anyway, which is probably why we don't have the option of using them anywhere.
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You can definitely use ctrl, I use it to paste when the press and hold menu doesn't come up in some aps.

I've used it on soft keyboards, but is there a way to use ctrl from the slide out keyboard?

Default HTC Keyboard with individual Keys

The htc keyboard has 2 versions. One which has the individual keys and the one with the multitap keys. Does anyone know how to make it so that the default keyboard is ALWAYS the one with the individual keys as I am not able to select which one I would like to use.

evilution79 said:
The htc keyboard has 2 versions. One which has the individual keys and the one with the multitap keys. Does anyone know how to make it so that the default keyboard is ALWAYS the one with the individual keys as I am not able to select which one I would like to use.
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I know what you're talking about but I am not really sure how to do that. Like when you enter input for a password in IE it pops up but for some reason only password boxes. That is definitely something to look into.

Check this post for a link to a cab file that - i believe - will disable the 20 and 12 key keyboards and activate the 40 key (password) version. the downside is that you have to give up the predictive text feature.

cortezzi said:
Check this post for a link to a cab file that - i believe - will disable the 20 and 12 key keyboards and activate the 40 key (password) version. the downside is that you have to give up the predictive text feature.
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I feel so honored to have my post cited...

when i install this, and select the keyboard nothing comes up, I still see my defualt. I soft reseted many times, even the used the pin.
any help would be great.
When i go the options, It says "the selected input method could not be loaded"
Thanks

Some used IMSelector but didn't work for my Vogue. I used SipChange and it did the trick..... maintaining my selected default keyboard.

Thanks, but what i meant is.
When i select the HTC keyboard, it's blank. nothing shows up.
is that 20 key to 40 key cab an add on? or do I uninstall the original?
thanks

Is it possible to do a ~ on the Titan?

Is it possible to do a ~ on the Titan? I don't see it anywhere on the keyboards. Is it possible to get an expanded keyboard program anywhere to send that key?

Yes it possible but not easy. Hit function then tab an onscreen menu will pop up scroll down three clicks and there it is. Im posting from my mogul so ill throw one up to ~ , you get all sorts of symbols ™ € № {} § those are a few

Thanks. Anyway to map that to a key?

Diamond Keyboard
Use the diamond keyboard app. and just hold "H" and you'll get it. Much easier.

I have had problems using the tilde (~) that you get from function-symbols for our WEP key, so I usually text it to myself from a PC (verizonwireless.com). Not sure why it is different, but this method always works for me.

on a pc one can get any ascii key by holding down the alt key and typing in the ascii value
maybe it works on pda's too

also, you could hit the function key then Q for the @ symbol, immediately followed by Function then Space.

kflipproductions said:
also, you could hit the function key then Q for the @ symbol, immediately followed by Function then Space.
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nice 1, that works

PC-like keyboard mapping for hardware USB keyboards

WARNING: This is a work in progress, but I want to get my partially working config out there for someone like me who desperately wants this to work.
Edit 1: In retrospect, titling it "better keyboard support" was a bad idea, this has nothing to do with the "betterkeyboard" app.
I purchased the apad/gpad case with the integrated USB keyboard from witglobal here:
http://witglobal.com/goods-1846-10+inch+Apad+keypad++Leather+Case+for+10inch+flytouch+ZT-180+X10+A8+infotmic+Tablet+PC+-+Free+Shipping.html
However, there are issues with the control and escape keys, particularly in connectbot. Since I got the keyboard so I could connect to Linux machines, missing those two keys is pretty ugly. I know you can tap the touchscreen to get ctrl and esc, but that's really slow, I'd like to use the hard key.
So far, I have discovered that there are several things getting in the way of the key working. First is the keyboard mapping files. There are no native key mapping for 'esc' and the default key mapping for the 'esc' key is "BACK". This is fine for many uses, but not for mine. Secondly, it looks like there is a very small set of "custom" keys available in the keymappings.h file. Since there are no "USER1" etc keys, it will take a rebuild of the keyboard code with added entries to make it work better.
This is an attempt to fix control and esc functionality with a USB keyboard. It consists of a kcm file and a kl file to replace the current ones. I am doing my work on VEGAn beta5, but I suspect any ROM will benefit from these files.
To install these files, do the following:
MAKE BACKUP
adb pull /system/usr/keychars/usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kcm.bin usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kcm.bin.orig
adb pull /system/usr/keylayout/usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kl usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kl.orig
Install mod
adb remount
adb push usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kcm.bin /system/usr/keychars
adb push usb_keyboard_102_en_us.kl /system/usr/keylayout
Unplug and replug your USB keyboard
Once this is done, the following changes are made:
Ctrl is mapped to DPAD_CENTER
Esc is mapped to DPAD_CENTER
To use it, go to connectbot, log in, and hit esc or ctrl once for ctrl, and hit esc or ctrl 2x for escape.
Current Issues:
Shift , generates a ;, not a < in Connectbot, but works correctly in other places
Shift . generates a :, not a > in Connectbot, but works correctly in other places
Insert does not work
Del generates a backspace
] and } keys generate the character + a beep

howdy
I'm a long time betterkeyboard user too. So this mod allows a USB keyboard to use the hardware spell checking option like I can on my droid one?
you might want to send a note to the devs about inccluding this by default. They added the ability to change key height pretty quickly when a few folk sasked.
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sharpfork said:
howdy
I'm a long time betterkeyboard user too. So this mod allows a USB keyboard to use the hardware spell checking option like I can on my droid one?
you might want to send a note to the devs about inccluding this by default. They added the ability to change key height pretty quickly when a few folk sasked.
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This is to enable escape and control keys in Connectbot (and possibly others eventually). If you don't use connectbot or a terminal emulator on the gtab, it most likely will be useless to you.
The intent, eventually, is to make a hardware USB keyboard work identically to how it works on a PC (control/alt/esc/etc send the correct keycodes)

Thanks, this helps a lot
As an Emacs user, not having ESC doesn't bother me much.
Ctrl key now works, but only in a way that you tap it once than tap another key, instead of conventional way of pressing a key while ctrl key is pressed.
Is there anyway to fix that? Thank you.

Thanks for doing this work, I too was upset that after buying a USB keyboard it was useless for SSH. Have you made any progress on the issues listed at the end of your post since posting this in Jan? Hope you found a solution and could share it with us!