Manila 2.1 Vs. 2.5 - Touch HD General

Hi All
OK bare with me here , a stupid question it may be , and i have looked around
for the answer but havent been able to find it.
I noticed that some chefs release 2 different versions of there ROMS , being Manila
2.1 and Manila 2.5 , could someone please explain to me what the difference is between
the 2 version , like Energy ROM has Photon and Leo one being 2.1 the other 2.5
so what are the major differences between the 2.
Many thanks for viewing my questions
and Thanks in Advance to all
Regards
RF

Manila 2.5 doesn't support landscape

Have you tried both yet?
It's the best way to learn!

Many thanks for the response , to be honest its just a query , i dont really want to have to wipe my device again just to check the differences if someone can save me the hassle with a comparison , 2.5 supports landscape in Album and Music Player as far as i know,

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touch flow 3d update cab file

havnt seen this one yet... but for u admins are u guys going to make an update to get the new tf3d like on the new touch pro 2 ?
didnt see this yet so am sorry if there is one out...
anyone there to make a new manila 3 cab???
i was looking for that also...i know that touch pro users can find a manila cab, but i could not find anyone making cab with manila 3 for touch hd... .
not everyone want or can install new rom to be able to use new manila....is there anyone who could prepare new manila 3 cab????
you'll find the new manila is useless without an updated rom, mate
you do not need an updated ROM for the porting of the Touch Pro. It runs on 19xxx version of Windows in fact. Some additional add-ons (like enhanced notifications and menus) don't work but those are not a part of TF3D itself.
cool thanks for the heads up mate
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
is anyone working on the beta for the touch hd (blackstone)??
Khalild said:
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
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That's VGA not WVGA so it wont fit the screen on the Touch HD.
Cab for the new calendar?
Hi,
I have got a Touch HD and I am happy with it. The only thing that bothers me, is the Windows mobile calendar. I saw that on the new TFD 2.5 the calendar has improved significantly. Great optic and no WM even when adding an appointment! That is what I was waiting for!! I really want this calendar!! I never modified anything on my device as I am scared to screw up my Touch HD! Is there a possibility to get a cab with the new calendar on the "old" Touch HD TFD? My version should be the 1.3.353...
Please help me... Sorry if it is a impossible thing to ask...
Thanx!
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
Faguopal said:
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
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Your currently using manila 1.3. The latest manila versions have a better/smoother, more finger friendly interface with additional options & displays (i.e. weather displayed on home tab below clock to name one). Also manila 2.0+ has landscape enabled so you can view all tabs in landscape mode as well as portrait
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
Faguopal said:
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
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I haven't seen a way yet on the HD to update to another version of manila without having to flash a new rom. Its possible on other devices to port to another manila, but as I said, I haven't seen this avilable yet on the HD

What TouchFlo 3d for wm6.5??

Hi Guys
I install a Rom WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5 for Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 -[W4X.23+BAREBONE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
this Rom run very fast and all its OK. But I miss the TouchFlo 3d (Rom Touch it)
Im test Touchflo 3D manila (Touch-HD cabs here. full manila HD cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154&highlight=manila+3d
I Install this Cab... but its not the same like the rom touch it... this run Slowly and Comunication button respond at the second try.
The question is what Touchflo run nice in Winmo 6.5?
Thanks a lot guys and sorry for the english. I only speak Spanish.
the banished said:
Hi Guys
I install a Rom WM6.5 Windows Mobile 6.5 for Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 -[W4X.23+BAREBONE]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509891
this Rom run very fast and all its OK. But I miss the TouchFlo 3d (Rom Touch it)
Im test Touchflo 3D manila (Touch-HD cabs here. full manila HD cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154&highlight=manila+3d
I Install this Cab... but its not the same like the rom touch it... this run Slowly and Comunication button respond at the second try.
The question is what Touchflo run nice in Winmo 6.5?
Thanks a lot guys and sorry for the english. I only speak Spanish.
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try shadowmikes rom as wm6.5 with manila as well. best of both worlds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
another Flash?? I count Five this weekend jajaja poor Xperia
Ok Men Thanks Im Gonna test the Rom.
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another Flash?? I count Five this weekend jajaja poor Xperia
Ok Men Thanks Im Gonna test the Rom.
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thats what this forum is all about. you try everything till you find one that suits you. think you will like this one. everything works. youtube app, manila. rom is huge and has got everything you can think off
stopped count on how many times flash mine testing for Wild Childs roms. W5x out today and we working a surprise for everyone
shingers5 I remember... I test The Rom shadowmikes the Sunday
and I remember the rom brings several Programs i don not use. and this rom is a bit heavy (ram Usage) . Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Thanks again shingers5
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shingers5 I remember... I test The Rom shadowmikes the Sunday
and I remember the rom brings several Programs i don not use. and this rom is a bit heavy (ram Usage) . Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Thanks again shingers5
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new one was released monday 4.5.09. i have used it and yeah it is loaded. fully loaded but it works well. rom you are currently using does not have manila support for it. ya can try jerp's new rom but seems to be issues with it - bluetooth not working and sms issues. ithas got manila as well. also agent 47 has released one with manila too but not checked it out
jerps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511893
agent47
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
not sure of them but agent47 has blue touch -it 7 highlights. you may like it
6.5 & tf3d one package
what i recommend, have tested and like the speed of it, my top 3 and only chefs that has the mix is drumm rolllll
shadowmikes: i like the RC 2.3 175mb as it worked better for me than the new one RC 3.1 200mb file, couldn't even install this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
timurs: the 1st chef to do this and his seems to be fastest, only thing is he has alot of programs you might use or not, up to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502641
agent 47: new release it's pretty fast i havn't messed with it much before i flashed again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
im in a mix between these as my choice. timurs and agent 47 file is around 130mb whereas shadowmikes 175mb. i don't know why it matters but i like to have the option of both. i just ended up with itjes v7 as it's lighting fast and im just as happy with it. hope that helps. have fun reading
himuraken said:
what i recommend, have tested and like the speed of it, my top 3 and only chefs that has the mix is drumm rolllll
shadowmikes: i like the RC 2.3 175mb as it worked better for me than the new one RC 3.1 200mb file, couldn't even install this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505321
timurs: the 1st chef to do this and his seems to be fastest, only thing is he has alot of programs you might use or not, up to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502641
agent 47: new release it's pretty fast i havn't messed with it much before i flashed again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512050
im in a mix between these as my choice. timurs and agent 47 file is around 130mb whereas shadowmikes 175mb. i don't know why it matters but i like to have the option of both. i just ended up with itjes v7 as it's lighting fast and im just as happy with it. hope that helps. have fun reading
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thanks for the answer Himuraken
i test the rom Valkyrie of agent 47 but it was very difficult to install. after the third try the rom run ok. but i remove i dont like for the problem of the begin. dont want to tink a hard reset and this rom.
the another rom Timurs looks great. im gonna try in the night at home.
thanks for the link.
so i understand... a rom is better to install with built in manila
thanks a lot again for the answers guys

Manila v2.5 Running on a HTC Touch HD

When the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2 get the Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade later this summer, it looks like they are getting a new version of TouchFLO 3D (Manila v2.5) that stretches the interface a bit deeper and makes it more customizable than seen on the current iteration. If not on the Diamond2 and Touch Pro2, we'll likely see Manila v2.5 on the upcoming Firestone.
Energy Rom TEST version HD manila 2.5
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
For the Home tab, HTC has put forth efforts to bring frequently used tasks to the surface; in this case, the user can place three shortcut buttons that presumably go to a program, contact, or system command. Also, the calendar is still on the Home tab, though we wonder if that section will auto-collapse or simply act as a link.
More screenshots plus a video after the jump!
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It seems that HTC Footprints, first launched on the 2009 version of the Touch Cruise, will make its way to all newer versions of TouchFLO 3D. Footprints lets you associate geographical coordinates with a photo.
Click this bar to view the full image.
Settings are going to go much deeper. Currently in TouchFLO 3D, there are only a handful of system settings that are skinned by HTC. Now, it looks like most things, down to Program and Storage, Regional, and even Text Input setting are skinned.
new manila 2.5 from firestone Excelent
very fast and now 100% fingerfrindly
more options EXCELENT
The next build of Manilla, TouchFlo3D 2.5, has been leaked, and this video shows it running on a HTC Touch HD. It continuous the replacement of the normal Windows Mobile UI, and it seems all parts of calendar and settings are now subsumed in the software.
Also new is HTC Footprints as an integral part of TF3D.
this is true ???? can´t wait for new Rom with manila 2.5
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5321&cpage=1#comment-28932
many thanks
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I really can't wait for this. It really does look great!
I hope dutty gets his hands on it soon and can make a nice stable winmo 6.5 ROM with this Manilia, it would be amazing
Jake
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
zoomee said:
agreed jake
not sure why when the dude in the video clicks on the System Info screen it didnt show anything though!
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excelent but with some bugs to solve ..... just waiting until new realease
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
Well if he got it in his HD so could we.. Jeez, cant wait
tetrabit said:
nice...
where we can download this ?
I do not whant install new firmware but update to Manila v2.5
will be nice..
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Test versions are out. I think that we'll see it within a week.
Probably won't be that stable for a bit though.
You will need to flash or imageUpdate your phone.
I don't think that is a HD I think that is the Firestone that is shown in that video is it not?
looks like an HD... i tried it today on my HD and it looks good, but it's slow and buggy in spots. i removed it because i need a stable device during the week!
Totally agree with cortez.i, tried manila 2.5 yesterday and at present it is to unstable & buggy with a number of things not working properly.
Once these have been ironed out though..........
new manila
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
dhborr said:
hi
i use new manila in the "Energy Rom" it's nice and very userfriendly however there are a lot of bugs as the sms (doesn't work), the weather and the clock (you can't add new city) and something else.. for the speed i used "drive pack beta 2" and it goes quickly as the old manila.
i hope someone fix bug as soon as possible.. it looks great!!
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NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
masrterk said:
NEW manila 2.5 PLEASE ...... even with bugs we want to see and test NEW MANILA
or manila better a manila 2.5 CAB file PLEASE ....
please make a Rom with New Manila 2.5
new manila is excelent more feactures ....
many thanks
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this is a test rom FROM ENRG
. Here is the link . Test only if you want to try the new manilla otherwise the rom has lots of bugs and it not stable.
http://rapidshare.com/files/24820285...8_standard.rar
this is a test rom FROM ENRG
new manila Rules much better then rhodium version but with some bugs.....
Excelent
Tried the ROM with TF3D v2.5 today...
Great layout and adition of a few new things but as everyone else has already stated it's very VERY buggy! Shame...
Can't wait till it's out and stable, although I am more looking forward to the new Sence UI
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
Well tbh, I rather have one working then one bugging....
Aspi914 said:
Because I just can't bring myself to installing a new ROM (call me gutless) can we have a Manila 2.5 CAB file please...
Asp
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manila 2.5 cab file? we'd all like it to be that easy, lol. but...you can forget about that. it's a ROM flash only... (for now).
I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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I'm looking at the registry values for the new Footprints function on my HD. Seems Manila 2.5 was written for a device with a 3M pixel cam, opposed to the HD's 5M. I've set the value for a 5M function, but that didn't fix anything. I've alos checked FootCam.exe with Dependancy Walker which tells me alot of files are still missing.
If i find the time, i'll post a list of missing files / dependancies.
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One 0one fix the Sms bug ? and weather ....
new manila is realy great much better then rhodium version
can´t wait for a better and stable version it´s realy fast and a great improve

Need plain 6.5 rom with just touch flo 3d

hello everybody.
I have been absent for so long time but I was too busy to follow up all your work guys.
I have 2 simple questions that couldnt be answered by a little search I did.
I am looking for the fastest more stable and plain wm 6.5 rom with only touch flo 3d on it.
I am not a heavy user of this pda. It is mostly used as a simple phone and a gps navigator using destinator 7. (i may switch to i-go 8 in the near future)
I really do basic stuff so I really dont need all the nice goodies you preinstall on the cooked roms I have read about.
i forgot to mention that i currently have my touch cruise with
official rom wm 6.1 3.13.405.0 WWE
radio 1.59.42.15
Any help?
p.s. sorry if my search wasnt good enough but I was absent for a year and a half and it seems really difficult to discover the exact things I am asking.
cheerios
hm......i have succesfully installed hard-spl and also succesfully installed latest radio rom 1.59.46.12
i also installed succesfully pcarvalho's rom. now only thing to do is to find a clean 6.5 rom. I saw that installing the driver for touch flo 3d is really easy.
sigh...i feel sleepy now but at least i didnt bother any of you guys with my silly first questions
I'm not a pro here but have been following that 3D driver development for Polaris and tested that TF3D port on my Cruise. Unfortunately current TF3D on Polaris is good only for testing/fun/lulz/whatever and a lot of headache in everyday use (the first second I saw it, I knew I couldn't live with that slowness and bugness every day ).
My unpretentious advice is you better get latest pcarvalho's 6.5 rom (usin it for everyday - works good) and install Manila 2D v2.0 from HTC Mega on top of that. You may also consider the Kostas244-Rom with Manila 2D v.2 already cooked in there. As for those tons of extra stuff - I don't need it either but just don't mind it being there if it doesn't hit RAM or processor time too hard
P.S. My opinion is the dream of properly working TF3D on Polaris will never come true :sigh
Cheers!
thanks for the response mate.
I will try kostas's rom later this week.for now i am pleased in general with pcarvalho's one.
Please let us know how you get on - I would like to do the same thing.
with full wm6.5 coming out now, I'd like a clean light 6.5 too.
Need more memory.
Just the plain stuff, with .net and not so many apps installed, just the defaults from htc like opera and quickgps.

Manila 2.5

Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
Landscape support
Go to the aplications side of the thread. Theres apost called "Project Pulse"
Its a mod of 2.5 that supports landscape in all tabs but is still in early form with a few bugs. The developer is working on the bugs and will continue to update it. Its deffinatly worth looking at if you want to see landscape support for 2.5
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
k2thejx5 said:
well friend this doesn't need to be in the rom section but ill see what i can do with your questions.
1. yep it has been made for the htc touch hd 2 but i am guessing it will be made for future devices and touchflo 3d will be gone for good kinda of like what happend between touch flo 2d when 3d came out.
2. it is very doubtful that the touch pro 2 will get an upgrade like 90% chance of no.
3. Yea pretty much why they didn't just make a landscape now is beyond me i know they will eventually maybe if that rumor about the touch hd pro comes out or something.
4 Yea 2.5 has twitter app which really is just alright i would rather use twikini. And footprints has been out for awhile on touch flo 2d.
5.Its kinda of both in a sense there are plenty of cabs for touch flo 3d but it is built in by htc as a more or less skin such as spb mobile shell.
6. Very doubtful htc loves moving forward with things.
7.If you could show us a pic i might be able to answer that but someone would have to port footprints to 2.1 and i really doubt thats gonna happend any time soon.
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Thanks for your answers man.
You're right it shouldn't be in the ROM section. But I kind of ummed and aarrred about it, and as you said yourself, it's a mixed bag whether manila is cooked in or not. Haha.
But very informative and I appreciate the time your took to reply. Kind of gives a good indication.
I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
geejayoh said:
Research for me has turned up somewhat conflicting results, so I ask if the community can shed some light, and in turn enlighten some of us who are in the dark.
Please correct me as I am sure there are some flaws in my knowledge here.
1. Manila / Sense 2.5 has been released officially, but only for the HD2 / Leo? And as such will only be released for this device.
leading to 2. therefore, the TP2 will never have *official* support for Manila 2.5 and it's lovely widget home / full-screen weather home screens
leading to 3. The Leo has no need for landscape support for all it's stuff because it doesn't have a keyboard?
leading to 4. I can discern that Manila 2.5 has added features such as Tiwtter integration and what has really piqued my interest, this "footprint" lark.
leading to 5. I am confused about Manila. It's obviously the program the runs the fancy TF3D interface jibbery-joo, but in some places I get the impression that it's heavily integrated into the windows ROM and so must come already baked in, and in other places It seems like it could almost be a cab file, ready for install?
leading to 6. does anyone know if HTC plans to give us poor TP2 users a widgetized home screen?
leading to 7. In some screen shots I have seen both the widgetised home screen, weather animations and footprint screen in use on what otherwise appears as Manila 2.1, especially the footprints things. Is this a seperate, installable module?
If it is possible to install the components (like footprints) or Manila 2.5 seperately, is there anyone offering them up, can't find them myself?
Many thanks for listening, it's all getting rather confusing.
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I was trying to install sense 2.5 in my TP2 until now ! thanks for posting this
i wanted so much a good rom with 2.5 for my tp2.. what i wanted was a french version of the fusion rom, but as we know, attomang seems to have vanished because of some scamming business he tried...
however here's what i think about the OFFICIAL future of sense 2.5 in landscape : pocket now showed us some leaked pictures of upcoming htc models coming in 2010 (based on some xda informations), and it comes out that there's a tp2-like device coming out.. so if it isn't an android based device, i think we can hope that it will come with 2.5 (and that we can base our future roms on the one that will be provided with it)
---> look at thje third one called "TERA"
http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/hot-three-new-htc-windows-mobile-phones-for-2010
(sorry if me english bad.. me native language french xD)
EDIT / for /7/ "home creen animated...".. it is present in the official 6.5 upgrade (so it's a winmo6.5 with sense 2.1) -- animated weather is on with the default wallpaper (or you can say when no wallpaper is chosen, or set for the homecreen)

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