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New G2 Touch (Hero) - need your help.

Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
Thanks
G

gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
I have got my G2 Touch (Hero) sat at home waiting for me and cannot wait to get back and play with it.
I was hoping you guys could help me with the following questions though:
1. How do I know if I should bother rooting it or not? If I root at a later date will I lose all of my other stuff on the phone?
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be prepared to wipe everything, as this is the solution for 95% of all problems (people not wiping before upgrade). don't you dare to ask for help before you wiped and reflashed afaik you can get root access without wiping, but i am pretty sure you are going to want a custom rom like modacos rom, and this almost inevitably means you have to wipe.
in q&a there is a thread for what you can do with root. it is not really complete, another try is to search for "root" in the market. most applications that need root access are found by this, so you can see what you could do if you where rooted.
gk141054 said:
2. How do I know if I have Donut on my phone and if I don't, should I root first or update to donut first?
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easy one. there is no donut rom for hero (except for a custom one here on the forum, which does not _really_ work), so you don't have it on your phone. imho: don't bother updating to donut rom, unless you know what you are doing.
gk141054 said:
3. Is there a list of "mush have apps" on the forum... I've spent all day reading articles on "must haves" but was hoping for "real life" feedback from you guys on what I must get.
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what about the thread called "must have apps on your Hero" here in the themes&applications section? i don't think it will get any better than that... you need to do the reading yourself, you won't find a post that says "here is a zip with the ten apps you need to be happy" (well maybe you will find it, but i doubt that actually will be happy with it).
gk141054 said:
Thanks
G
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you're welcome.

Hi kendong2, thanks for the response...
I have read about this update on tmobile's website...
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=SOFTWAREDOWNLOADS&tab=2
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?

gk141054 said:
If this isn't the Donut update, is it just an updated version of the original rom?
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It isn't Donut - it is just the T-Mobile version of the 2.73 ROM. Since your phone is very new, it probably already has it anyway, but to check go to Menu-> Settings -> About Phone, and check the build number. If it starts 2.73, you've already got the updated ROM.
If you get a 1.xx build number, my advice would be *not* to install the T-Mobile update as it will make it much harder for you to move to a custom ROM at a later date. You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
You should download and install a generic 2.73 that has been pre-rooted.
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or start with modaco right away

Hi again guys...
Checked my Touch last night and it is on 1.76
I'm a bit weary about rooting and installing generic / custom roms for fear of voiding the warranty and then owning a £500 brick...
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?

gk141054 said:
Will updating to 2.73 from tmobile really make it harder to move to a custom rom later....?
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Put it this way -if you upgrade to 2.73 via the T-Mobile RUU, in order to move to a custom ROM in future you will have to "downgrade" to a generic HTC 2.73 ROM via a Goldcard (see here) which is much more complicated when you've already got a ROM on your phone which is "exploitable".
The other thing you should bear in mind is that when Android 2.0 is released for the Hero, it will likely first come out as a ROM for unbranded phones with operator branded versions following some time later. This is what happened when 2.73 was released, and T-Mobile in particular was quite tardy in getting its own version out.
So, if you want to go to Android 2.0 sooner rather than later, you should look at a non-T-Mobile version of 2.73 now.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks very much for the advice guys, going to do as you suggested.
Unfortunately I have more questions though:
1. to load the generic 2.73 I just "oneclickroot" (found the video on youtube to follow) and then download the theme and rename it "update.zip" put this onto your memory card, turn off your phone then press and hold the "home" button while pressing the power button.... keep the "home" button down until you get to the recovery screen then select flash the update.zip as you would a rom. Is that right or have I missed anything?
2. Having a Tmobile G2 Touch rather than a Hero won't make any difference to the rom that I choose will it?
3. Will putting a new rom on lose my contacts or widgets / scenes etc?
4. Can you recommend a nice rom to go for, like what you guys are using? Want it to look nice, be stable but fast
Cheers again for the help guys.

Answers!
1. Can't help here as I didn't use the one-click method.
2. No.
3. Yes. However, if you've synced your contacts to Google, you will get them back again once you set the phone up again.
4. Modaco - nuff said.
Regards,
Dave

For a newbie I can recommend 'the unlockr'-Google it- they have easy to follow vids for rooting and flashing roms for the hero. It's really easy and you won't brick your phone if you have half a brain cell.

[Q] Best guides to rooting?

Hi everyone!
I'm new to all this rooting - have a HTC Hero that is now my 'second' phone since I have recently upgraded to the Galaxy S. I would like to know what is the best guide out there to root my HTC Hero/G2 Touch to load a custom ROM - as i'd like to start using the latest 2.2 Froyo update.
P.S My firmware is currently 1.5 and I have build number 2.73.110.26 on T-Mobile (UK)
If anyone could put me in the right direction i'd be very appreciative - might be a good idea (if not already been done) to create a sticky guide for rooting the hero phone as it seems very common.
Thanks in advance!
p.s i'm not a noob to computers but rooting phones is a new thing to me - so forgive me if i ask a few questions
Gav

IMO the guide here is the best:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645253
Mainly because it is written by me............
But other than that - its probably the most up to date and quickest method available at the moment. I hope it helps and i'm on hand if anything doesn't go to plan (rare).

I second that, that's definitely the best guide on here.
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Cheers dude! Thanks i will give that a whirl soon

Hi,
I am a Hero user since day one. I rooted my phone back then with one of the early methods. I had to manually chmod stuff and copy over files or something like this, I don't remember exactly.
Now I haven't followed the root/mod/rom world anymore, but want to install a new rom now.
Do I have to re-root my phone with a new method? Should I reset anything?

I'm a little confused with all the roms - i just want to use a stable froyo 2.2 - which rom would you recommend I go for (I am using a UK T-Mobile phone)
Cheers

dvrvm said:
Hi,
I am a Hero user since day one. I rooted my phone back then with one of the early methods. I had to manually chmod stuff and copy over files or something like this, I don't remember exactly.
Now I haven't followed the root/mod/rom world anymore, but want to install a new rom now.
Do I have to re-root my phone with a new method? Should I reset anything?
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It is recommended to have the latest custom recovery installed before flashing a new ROM. So if you turn off your phone, then hold HOME + POWER to boot into the recovery, you should get some writing come up at the bottom. The latest Amon Ra is 1.7 I think.
But apart from that, you can just put the new ROM onto your SD, then flash through the recovery, easy.
gavk-xda said:
I'm a little confused with all the roms - i just want to use a stable froyo 2.2 - which rom would you recommend I go for (I am using a UK T-Mobile phone)
Cheers
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FroydVillain 1.5? I haven't updated from 1.4.4 yet but will definitely be doing so this evening.
EDIT.... Also there is that Fusion ROM,... Give that one a try aswel, try to run them for 48hours to get a good feel for the two.

[Q] Rooting Evo

I'm about to root my Evo, the first android phone I have ever attempted to root. I have no idea what I am doing, and woud appreciate some advice. I'm planning to use unrevoked. I"m hoping you can analyze the steps I hope to make and help me through it. I'll even tell you what I want in the end
Tell me if I'm doing this correctly:
1. Install Unrevoked 3
2. Install Unrevoked Infinity
3. Find a custom rom somewhere (I just want a vanilla rom)
4. Be done?
Is this correct? Where do i find a rom btw? I can't wait to get away from sense, I want stock android now!

Moved in EVO 4G General.

try cyanogen
thenimboo said:
I'm about to root my Evo, the first android phone I have ever attempted to root. I have no idea what I am doing, and woud appreciate some advice. I'm planning to use unrevoked. I"m hoping you can analyze the steps I hope to make and help me through it. I'll even tell you what I want in the end
Tell me if I'm doing this correctly:
1. Install Unrevoked 3
2. Install Unrevoked Infinity
3. Find a custom rom somewhere (I just want a vanilla rom)
4. Be done?
Is this correct? Where do i find a rom btw? I can't wait to get away from sense, I want stock android now!
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Simple:
http://www.thedroiddemos.com/2010/08/27/how-to-root-the-htc-evo-4g-with-froyo-2-2-video-walkthrough/
Just make sure you load a different ROM up afterwards as a stock rooted ROM isn't usually stable and will usually give you random Force Closes on different apps. I recommend Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo or Cyanogenmod 6 personally. Both are faster and very stable. There's a few Vanilla ROMS under the EVO themes section.

help rooting
I am a first time rooter, and I need simple instructions as a "how-to" guide to rooting. Can anyone walk me through step by step? Just explain it like u would to an idiot. Also, what are the benefits of rooting, and is it un-doable? Thanks!

jbstone said:
I am a first time rooter, and I need simple instructions as a "how-to" guide to rooting. Can anyone walk me through step by step? Just explain it like u would to an idiot. Also, what are the benefits of rooting, and is it un-doable? Thanks!
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What hardware version do u have? If im not mistaken versions 1-3 differ from version 4.

I HAVE 3...

[Q] New User of Magic, Rooting Query...

I have a new Magic (32b Google/Vodafone Ed) and I am hoping this is an ok question to ask... Any help, is much appreciated!
I've been searching through forums and seeking help wherever I can and not getting anywhere fast with information I'd like.
Firstly, when I bought the phone (2nd hand) it came with Cyanogen on it.
But there were all sorts of issues and so I had to do some fast learning, to fix it.
I managed to find out how to flash the phone, and reinstall the Restore functionality on the phone......
Once that was done, I was loving it and started installing apps.
I thought I had it perfect, so decided to install a theme (I didn't know it was untested) so when I flashed it, it locked the phone into a boot loop.
I spent 24 hours trying to understand how to 'fix' it as I restored a NAND backup which wasn't mine, and ended up with the phone back to it's factory default Vodafone Android 1.6 version with the old owners picture lock code!!!
A friend ended up 'fixing' it, I believe by getting a good copy of the default OS and flashing it with the fastboot menu.
After he did that, Vodafone here released an over-air update, so the phone is now running the default HTC Android version, but on 2.2.1
What I would like to know, is before I embark on the rather terrifying task of trying to put Cyanogen back on, is what are the benefits to rooting the phone vs the risks?
I understand that the risk of 'bricking' the phone is very real, and if I screw it up, I could basically destroy the phone, but do the benefits outway the risk?
I now have been given the Goldcard, plus install files for Cyanogen the original owner used to root the phone, so I am reasonably confident that it will work fine - as it was running Cyanogen beautifully (other than a couple minor glitches) when I got the phone.
If I root the phone and install Cyanogen, what benefits do I get over the stock 2.2.1 install?

IMHO the real true benefits from rooting is the complete freedom and the ability to really make the phone your own.the question you asked has been asked so many times and truthfully the real reward comes with actually rooting the phone yourself.
1. itll free up ram on the phone allowing you to do things faster(this depend on what rom you get too)
2. you can put apps on a part of your sd card which will keep your phone going fast just dont over do it
3. overclocking and underclocking to speed it up even more
4. the themes! me personally i dont care too much for themes people complain so much about them but its whatever.
5. the customization is really endless
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.

thisishoot said:
the real reward comes with finally exhaling that breath after you first start rooting your phone lol.
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Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?

thecharmed01 said:
Well... now that I know I'll get for sure!!! As I know how rough it was when I broke it hahaha
As for the rest, you aren't able to change things like themes without rooting??
Pretty girly I know, but that's one of the main things I really want to do with it!
Being faster would be a help too as I have found over the past few days, that sometimes it can be quite slow..... Would Cyanogen speed it up a bit?
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Most stable ROM's will help with performance, CyanogenMod being one of them. The myTouch has a CPU rated for 576 MHz(if I recall correctly), but it comes from the factory underclocked at 384 MHz. Most ROM's have an OC kernel in them and will just require that you install SetCPU to control the CPU speed. As for your worries about bricking your phone, nowadays you don't even have to have a Goldcard. You can simply root with one of the many one-click root programs, use ROM Manager to flash a custom recovery (I prefer Amon Ra, but you can also use ClockworkMod) and create a backup of your untouched ROM, and then flash a new ROM from there. It's really all quite simple now IMHO, unlike when I originally rooted my phone using the Goldcard method.

hmm, is there a tut for that somewhere? As the only tutorial I have atm is the Cyanogen one which requires a Goldcard, dropping back to an older version, then rooting the phone?
I'd love to see another way of doing it?

Here's one and there's also the z4root app. You used to be able to use Universal Androot, but the exploit it used was patched in that 2.2.1 update you got.

Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!

thecharmed01 said:
Do you have any idea if the HTC Magic is compatible with that? As if it is, it is looking most intriguing!
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All three of the methods I mentioned will work for the Magic. The one I linked should work fine.

[Q] Cyandogen 7/ 2.2.3 mytouch 4g???

Now that i am a proud owner of a rooted mytouch 4g, the possibilities are endless.
There are a few things i wish to know though
1: I have Gingerbread 2.2.3 on the phone, but theres no mail, message, and other widgets that i liked when i had the stock rom, does anybody know where i get those widgest?
2: After loading up my contacts from my SD, i get a lot of multiples, and there no way for me to delete them. I would have to delete them one by one and its annoying, is there a way around that?
3. Say if i wanted to go back to the stock rom, but still keep S=off, is that still possible even with CM7? Even if i wanted to use the Desire S Rom can i still do so?
4. What are the best ROMS for CM7, i know due to the fact that its a new update, but what is the best one out there and its stable
For now thats all I can think of atmm, Thank you all again =]

kenneth11414 said:
Now that i am a proud owner of a rooted mytouch 4g, the possibilities are endless.
There are a few things i wish to know though
1: I have Gingerbread 2.2.3 on the phone, but theres no mail, message, and other widgets that i liked when i had the stock rom, does anybody know where i get those widgest?
2: After loading up my contacts from my SD, i get a lot of multiples, and there no way for me to delete them. I would have to delete them one by one and its annoying, is there a way around that?
3. Say if i wanted to go back to the stock rom, but still keep S=off, is that still possible even with CM7? Even if i wanted to use the Desire S Rom can i still do so?
4. What are the best ROMS for CM7, i know due to the fact that its a new update, but what is the best one out there and its stable
For now thats all I can think of atmm, Thank you all again =]
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Ok,
1) this should belong in the MT4G Q&A forum not general software development..
2) gingerbread is 2.3 not 2.2 that's froyo
3) I'm sure there's a utility on the market for multiple contacts
4) yes you can switch between roms but make sure you have clockwork mod 3.0.2.4 or 3.0.0.6 so you dont run into any issues with partition support.
5) CM7 is a ROM you do not flash ontop of CM7, you replace it. Which is why when you flash a Rom you must wipe data and cache most of the time unless updating to the newer version of the same Rom.
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