iGO8 PNA version and Touch HD - TTS problems - Touch HD General

Greetings,
Sorry to start a new thread but I have been reading for weeks so many threads, and have been asking on relevant ones the questions, and it seems I am ignored.. Do here it is..
I used to have NRG rom with iGO8 from June 25th (PNA) and TTS voices installed. It was working great. But then arrived PhamQuang with his V57 and I moved to it. I did not change anything as far as iGO. I am deleting the 'save' folder so every time I install iGO it is starting from the beginning. my sys.txt has not changed either, so technically I have a known good working setup.
On V59 the iGO installation went smooth, and I could choose a TTS voice. then, after a soft reset (or maybe after installing a cab?) my iGO became mute. TTS voices were stopped working. A regular voice does work. V61 and V62 had the same problem. I have installed V63 and again, TTS was working right after V63 was installed, but then it stopped working after a while. I suspect it is a cab i am installing after...
Has anyone got the same?

I would think it's due to lack of RAM. Does it work if you soft reset the phone (i.e. hold down the power button for a few seconds to turn it off) and load it straight away?
How about if you disable TF3D and just use the regular Windows today screen, then soft reset and try it?

bige, arghness,
it is a ram problem!
i disabled touch3d, stopped all tasks, optimized with sktools to get the maximum memory and it worked again!!!!
i activated again touch3d and tts stopped working!
thanks!!!!

Testing RAM issues
Although I found it hard to believe, as the Touch HD has so much RAM, I have checked the RAM issue as proposed..
Turned TF3D off. Checked and found I have 113M free RAM (out of 188) without doing any soft reset. Tried to change to a TTS voice- did not work.
Made a soft reset. Checked fr free RAM (TF3D is still off) - 123M free RAM. TTS still does not work.
Just to give you a clue- I used to have a trinity (64M RAM phone), and with a very lean and mean ROM I was able to turn TTS on .
PNA devices have normally 128M RAM in total (the newer ones will have 256M) and TTS runs smooth with 128M devices. The touch HD has 188M RAM, and proven not to work with 123M free...
Installed SKTOOLS. Set it to 'maximum memory' , ran it with TF3D on - still no results. Turned TF3D off - IT WORKS !!!!!
Not that I get why, but at least there is a solution...

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problem with phone pad locking imate

hi
anyone have a problem with activating phone pad when writing SMS?
often this happens to me following soft-reset the keyboard pops up by default and changing to phone pad does not work. it kind of only half comes up and is non-functional. sometimes the whole sms application will crash. requires soft-reset and try again until it works.
thought it was a memory shortage, but i have reinstalled apps to storage and now have 28MB free, split into 17MB for programs and 11MB for storage, which should be ok.
maybe a conflict with something i'm running?
Yes, I have the same problem.
There are 2 posts in here about it, but no solution from what I can see. Would love someone to fix it.
I have a feeling it got something to do with Pocket informant. U running it ?
nope - so tick that one off :wink:
additional programs running at startup... lets see:
omega-one battery pack pro
omega-one program bar and other utilities
spb GPRS monitor
microsoft voice command
sbsh pocket weather
think that's about it.
any correlations?
rosco
I have installed all of them, But removed them after.
The only one still installed is voice command
just had the pleasure of reinstalling everything after a required hard reset (curruption on the sd card leading to lots of lock-ups - my fault for getting impatient and disconecting the activesync during an avantgo update!).
anyway, the phone pad was back to perfect functioning until i installed voice command. its now uninstalled again and will stay that way :?
do you have voice command installed to main memory or storage?
i have installed it in storgage. but i have tried both places

TomTom 5 does not work with large maps?!?!?

Hi,
I have successfully installed TomTom 5 using BeyondTheTech's instructions, and everything works beautifully on the Great Britain map, which is about 100MB.
Yesterday I tried to switch to other maps, particularly the France map (which is about 200MB) and the Italy Plus map (which is also about 200MB too), and no way, it won't do that. What it does it freezes TomTom.
When this happens I can get to the Memory applet in Control Panel and stop TomTom, but then to restart it I need to patch the CurrentMap file in MyDocuments so that TomTom will ask which map I want to use, and only if I select Great Britain it will work fine. With the other two it just freezes as soon as I click it.
Before anybody asks, my license code is for the whole of Europe!!!!
Also, all three maps worked perfectly on my Treo 650, the device I had before the KJAM.
Anyone else has this problem?
Thanks.
I have the KJAM with TTN5 installed and i use currently the France-map without problem, also the italy-map-plus is working well. I have the navigator installed on miniSD like the maps. It's not very quick to open up, but don't freeze like you tell.
I see it freezing with italian map on my PDA2K with WM5 until i moved the navigator program from main memory to SD card. KJAM is not a PDA2k but you can try to uninstall the navigator from main memory and install it on miniSD (or move it and change the registry according to the new place).
Thanks for your reply.
My installation is indeed on the miniSD card already, not on main memory. So, I am very puzzled.
I will try and re-make the maps via the TomTom CD's and copy again to the card, and see if it makes a difference.
Can you confirm that you are able to switch maps residing on the card without problems?
Grazie (sono italiano anch'io).
Yes, i don't have problems to use the maps and i can change between them. I'm currently in France and i use a lot the france-map, but also changing back to the italian plus map is not a problem.
You put the map folder in the root of miniSD, right? And you tried to kill all the applications in background before starting TTN5? Stupid questions i know
Ciao
I have to GB maps installed and TT5 freezes near the end of any journey
and its loaded onto the mini SD card. Map includes camera data and I also have all voices loaded, rather no lose camera data but i am not sure if TT5 uses ov2, bmp or both files. Also should I trim the voice file to the one i use
Well.. till now i never see it freezing on kjam, but on my PDA2K with WM5 yes. It was freezing when i have it on main memory (then moved to SD) and when the bluetooth is off (or when pocketzenphone change profile to BT off at schedule time and i'm using TTN).
I use TTN5 with Checkpoint for POI and i have some slow down (but not freezing) when i enable a lot of POI, but if i keep only camera radar is fast enough. Ahh... and i use only one voice file, but i don't think that having many voice files it's a problem.
I was using TomTom on my previously owned Treo 650, and thought that the maps on the memory card could be reused.
I have now rebuilt all the maps from scratch using the original TomTom CD's, and now everything works great. I can switch maps with no problems.
I am also using the speed camera database from PocketGPS, and no problem at all with those either. No freezes, everything works perfectly, including Traffic.
Thanks again for the help.

Crossbow and Screen Flipping

I upgraded to Crossbow (first time upgraded ROM - very easy) And its great, some noticable speed impovements, especially tomtom6. I have just one question - There used to be an icon next to the comms manager for rotating the screen - sadly no longer there - can someone advise the applications name, and possibly where i can find it (would settle for the name )
Thansk in advance
Jon
I also updated, but TomTom6 is not working anymore.
I have it installed but when I start the program it just doe not run.
What version of TT are you using?
6.00
worked a trat, no need for the gps hotfix - resolved the screen flip as well. Faultless installation. Just remenebr you have to have the phone switched on for tomtom to work

Navigon MN7 working with the X1

Since yesterday I have registered my copy of Navigon MN7 from my G900 (WVGA too) to the X1 (no problems, thanks to the service of Navigon).
I changed the files as attached. If you use them, place them in main folder of Navigon on the storage card and the ApplicationSettings to the settings directory.
BUT ATTENTION: This is of a german G900. Therefore it may be possible that you have to change some lines in the files form "Speicherkarte" to "Starge Card". I didn't look at this! After zipping them on the PC just open them first with text editing program and look if there ist "Speicherkarte" written somewhere in the file. Change this to the language of your X1.
My experiance of the X1 with the MN7 ist great, if you accept two bugs, it has now, even an update is announced for the next days...
1. You only can use WVGA in the Portrait Mode. In Landscape Mode it is only VGA. It works, but with a black stripe on the right site. I don't mind because I am using only Portrait Mode.
2. MN7 finds the gps of X1 at once with the automatic search. But as it is with other internal GPS too, it can not hold the connection more than 1-2 minutes. You have first to start a program, that holds the connection (I use GPS-Skinner) and then start MN7 and everything works fine. This is a known Bug Navigon is working at and an update is announced for the beginning of November.
If you accept this, you get a great navigation experiance. The internal gps is faster than every gps I ever had. Even my GNS 5843, which is a great quality product. X1 fixes faster and finds and holds more satelittes!
The speed ist great. My G900 (WVGA too) needed 40+x seconds to start MN7, the X1 about 15 seconds. Everything responses very fast. Calculating a route needs 3-5 seconds. Typing the adress about 1-3 seconds for response. Worlds between earlier versions of MN.
With this great internal GPS it gives a complete new feeling of navigation to me, and I use Navigon since a lot of years
first thx for the files, but this two bugs are crazy, specialy the GPS Bug, I tried IGO and Garmin XT, they both work perfect, without any GPS loss, or Problems with WVGA, so if you drive many in EU also East EU then i would take IGO 2008, they havr the best Maps there, it is very fast, and runs smooth.
Regards cHarOn
cHarOn99 said:
first thx for the files, but this two bugs are crazy, specialy the GPS Bug, I tried IGO and Garmin XT, they both work perfect, without any GPS loss, or Problems with WVGA, so if you drive many in EU also East EU then i would take IGO 2008, they havr the best Maps there, it is very fast, and runs smooth.
Regards cHarOn
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i agree that Igo works fine, but if we compare maps like Italy, navigon has more streets in navigon in europe.( Latvia is very bad.) I faced this because one truck driver asked to fix for him latest maps for navigon and I was thinking that igo would be better and got for him igo, but then he started complaining that there are missing blocks of sreets.
In Latvia tomtom works the best. Igo cant find adresses.and has problems with routs
but still my favorit is igo
Your file BinaryConfig.xml seems to be corrupted ??? It cannot be opened.
Hi,
I have installed Navigon 7 to my X1 and I have used the files posted here to see if it works, however when I launch the app I get the splash screen with the spinning logo and then after about 15-20 seconds that diapears and the phone drops back in the last panel I was using i.e Today panel.. but the start bar at the top of the screen has disapeared..?
Any ideas..
I have uninstalled and reinstalled many times but that doesnt help.. and the only way to get the start bar back is to reboot the phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi,
once you rebooted the X1, it should start without any problems every time you start MN7.
Had the same problem. Since reboot it works flawlessly.
Chris
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the reply.. Unfortunatly I get the same problem everytime I reboot the phone.. Launch the app get the splash screen and then it drops back to Panel but without the start bar.. Reboot.. start again.. and again.. etc..
Shame really as it looks like a good sat nav and would like to play with a specially extended trial version before I purchase the app
I've just signed up for the beta of telmap which works fine on the x1 (although they don't give you an option for it,so the stellar or diamond versions work).
You say you have replaced the three files with the WVGA ones? hmmm...
Maybe it is because of the trail version? well, doesn't really make sense...
One more option to get it running is, maybe, to do the thing in landscape mode?
First turn your screen and then start MN app. Well, you never know...
Chris
After completely removing the app and the navigon directory from the phone and then doing a registry clean and a general tidy up of the storage on the phone I re-copied the Navigon directory with its contents to the phone and then copied the files from the first post in this thread and I can now launch the app without it dropping back to the panel, however now it asks for a serial key.. anyone have a keygen for this app.. as its currenlty asking me to go to the navigon site with the device id and register for a serial..
hello,
i have the following problem.
i coppied all file on the card, then installed the prog.
i can start it from the file manager, but if i want to try it from start... and press the icon, nothing happens...
does anyone have an idea, what this could be?
(if my english is not that perfekt, i am from germany and i am trying,hehe)
gruss,
maik
Nothing. I can't cancel my previous message.
Navigon MobileNavigator 7.3.1 Xperia Fix
Hello Guys,
i had just installed the Navigon 7.3.1 with the patch in the attachment that the only one which works
copy the "ApplicationSettings.XML" in the folder: "settings" and the two files : "BinaryConfig a. CacheConfig" in the Folder "Navigon"
And if you want to start the program in the landscape mod you have to install the "MN7LS.ARM.CAB"
View attachment 7.3.1.zip
View attachment MN7LS.ARM.CAB
MN7 working now
Many thanks to rookie333 I was finally able to get the test version of MN7 running
Its such a simple solution. Shame on Navigon Support for not being able to help at all and for their product being so poor designed to not include 800x480 resultions.
Normally I use it in the portrait mode. But one of the many flaws in Navigon software is that reality view only works in landscape mode.
But when I switch to landscape mode the screen gets broken. Any idea why?
In comparison to Tomtom the MN7 is not ready for 800x480 devices.
The whole display is stretched in length and squashed in width.
Everything on the map is so tiny you cannot read it, so symbols and text are unusable. The great lane-assistant from version 6 is now a tiny icon on the side.
All together MN7 on X1 is a big disappointment. Hopefully Navigon comes up with some patches soon.
But as I know Navigon development and support for years now, that will not happen soon.
So I will stick with my MN6 on PDA or change to Tomtom.
Tomtom on the other hand looks like it was build for the X1. It completely fits the screen, without stretching or squashing. Icons and text are great.
Regards
pt
You have to start Navigon in landscape mode, but you cannot switch while the program is running. I don't think it's squashed or stretched. The interface is VGA, but with X1's high dpi, it looks good. The map is just perfect with the attached XML files. The xml files are from the Touch HD forum, but with modified BinaryConfig.xml.
Landscape Mode
My Xperia will not start Navigon in Landscape mode. It sort of freezes up the Xperia which then needs restarting. Is the CAB language specific?
In Portrait mode it is useless (see edit below) as the useful part of the view (betweern the Arrow and the horizon) is just a tiny slit shown in my attached photo. Compare that of the official picture where the position arrow is much lower down and the horizon is near the top of the screen as it should be.
On the Xperia, one third of the screen is taken up by sky!
Also the Position Arrow with its circle cover up important parts of road junctions making it hard to see where to drive.
Edit: OK Now I've installed it all again, and copied the XML files again and now it is much better. The sky only take up a small amount of the screen and the arrow is lower down. What is going on? Is it dependent on the XML files?
Does anybody know how to turn on TMC on Mobile Navigator 7. I didn't setup it during first install but i discovered i can do it ....
I don't know how to setup again
Finaly i have something else than wayfinder. Thanks Rookie333 for excellent instruction.
I successfully used your configuration on my Xperia R1A. Navigon now launches in WVGA portrait (but I am unable to run it in landscape mode, even with the cab given in this thread, it fails with a message "unable to find mobilenavigator7.exe", quite strange).
But my real problem is : each time I start navigon, there is no GPS defined. So I have to configure it, using assistant. It finds the internal GPS, and it works for a short time.
Then during navigation it stops working. If I check the GPS status, there is no GPS device detected again. I have to detect the GPS again, etc ... and it works for several minutes, then fail again ...
Any idea why Navigon is loosing connection to the GPS so often ?
HI
Can i know where is the installation file

IGO8 and TTS has nothing to do with memory

A bit strange problem/issue. Most people saying TTS doesn't work on IGO8 due to lack of memory but I really don't think that's the main problem. Long story short, here are what I found out yesterday:
IGO8 used, 8.3.4.102680
TTS Susan and Dave (mod 1.0) the low quality version.
ROM Used, memory remaining and results
TESS Pride III with about 100mb ram free: Both Susan and Dave doesn't work.
TESS Leo II with about 90mb ram free: Susan doesn't work, Dave works.
I took my old Trinity P3600 out to test and here is the results:
WM6.5 OS 5.2.23017 Build 23017.5.3.0
- Page Pool 4 MB
- ULDR - removed
- compression - XPR
- .NETCompactFramework 3.5
with about 23mb ram free, both susan and dave works perfectly and IGO8 loads much faster than on Topaz.
For the above, nothing was changed, I simply swap the 4gb memory card between the device and start up the igo.exe from the card with fireexplorer.
Can anyone figure out a reason why this happens? OS built version? Page pool?
hope we can find a way and get the IGO8 to work on Topaz because obviously if it can run with only 23mb ram it will run on over 90mb ram.
Since I have never gotten TTS to work on iGo, what exactlly is the difference with the other voices available. Is it just the announcement of street names?
At this point, I really think it's more of ROM dependent. I suggest you try running IGO8 with different ROMs and see if any difference. I've never tried Dutty's rom but since you can't get it to work I guess I shouldn't even bother. I've only used the two TESS rom and one with TTS working, the other one not. In my case, nothing else is changed, just different rom.
As for voices, for what I know, there is one original high quality voice pack from IGO8 R3 and there is another one modded by others to reduce the quality so require less memory to run.
silvscorp said:
At this point, I really think it's more of ROM dependent. I suggest you try running IGO8 with different ROMs and see if any difference. I've never tried Dutty's rom but since you can't get it to work I guess I shouldn't even bother. I've only used the two TESS rom and one with TTS working, the other one not. In my case, nothing else is changed, just different rom.
As for voices, for what I know, there is one original high quality voice pack from IGO8 R3 and there is another one modded by others to reduce the quality so require less memory to run.
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Yes, but what does the TTS voice actually do differently than the other voices? Is it just that it reads the street names as they appear? For example, Kate (my fav) will say "take the next left", does the TTS voice say "take the next left onto Main St"?
yes, TTS will tell you the street you will turn onto. this is extremely useful if there are going into multiple split roads.
silvscorp said:
yes, TTS will tell you the street you will turn onto. this is extremely useful if there are going into multiple split roads.
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Ah, thanks for that, I always wondered.
I agree that it must be ROM dependant. My friend got it to work back on his touch, but after that nothing and I have never got it to work.
...and have you asked navngo what the deal is?
I dont know if the problem is HTC Sense.
With htc Sense and HTC Leo Stock Rom 1.48 TTS dont work, if I disable Sense TTS works.
Can you figured it out
I am not quite sure either, with TESS's Pride III (sense 2.1) I couldn't get neither voice to work, with sense disabled or not. with TESS's LeoII, (sense 2.5) regardless the sense is enabled or not, as long as I have more than 47% mem free, I am able to get both susan and dave to work (low quality version TTS, voice file size about 12mb).
But, like I mentioned before, with my Trinity, with only 23mb free, I am even able to get the Susan voice (high quality TTS, voice file size about 32mb). Strangest thing and really don't know what's going on here but I think the Topaz is capable of playing highquality voice and has more than enough ram for it.
Here is a guide on PPC Geeks.
General consensus seems to be to disable Sense first.

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