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well, I just read at a norwegian "htc" site that (smartmobil.no" that the ecpected release date for official wm6.1 for polaris is in august...
but we all know hat release dates is when coming from htc....
but..we'll see
In this swedish site http://www.mobil.se/ i found that in sweden there will be an WM6.1 update for Cruise in the summer.
August? Summer? Uuhmmm... August sounds quite 'summerish' to me...!
o2 Germany empolyee reckoned an update in August as well a couple months ago already. I guess it'll appear around that time and not *really* that much later.
is official HTC wm6.1 WWE rom coming?
Most likely yes, if several other less common languages seem to arrive around the same time. Personally I reckon most languages are going to be updated around the same time...
Htc summer can be about 4-5 month, and when they are talking about the summer..... they didn say which year!
Lets hope about 2-3 month we have the official 6.1 rom out
Back in mid August Slashgear.com reported that HTC told them there were two ROM updates for the Hero in the coming weeks. The first one should be released "within 10 days", while a major update would be coming in mid September.
As we all know many more than 10 days has passed since that report and we didn't get an official update. My initial though was that they were combining the two updates into one, since it is not a good idea to release two updates in a short period of time especially when installing the update require a wipe.
But honestly, beside the significant speed improvement, there is really nothing "major" in this ROM update, feature-wise I mean. Seeing the release of the 1.6 SDK today, I can't stop but think that the "major update" they mentioned is the Android 1.6 update for the Hero.
If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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Back in mid August Slashgear.com reported that HTC told them there were two ROM updates for the Hero in the coming weeks. The first one should be released "within 10 days", while a major update would be coming in mid September.
As we all know many more than 10 days has passed since that report and we didn't get an official update. My initial though was that they were combining the two updates into one, since it is not a good idea to release two updates in a short period of time especially when installing the update require a wipe.
But honestly, beside the significant speed improvement, there is really nothing "major" in this ROM update, feature-wise I mean. Seeing the release of the 1.6 SDK today, I can't stop but think that the "major update" they mentioned is the Android 1.6 update for the Hero.
If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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For being the "minor" update it was quite a big update...
I mean, headphone jack works flawlessly, LEDs are working too, a major speed optimization in the UI/OS... it was a well needed update. Now let's look forward to the Donut/1.6 update.
BRING IT ON Google/HTC.
i hope another update will be comeing soon because i´m missing the announced virtual java implementation
One quote for you all "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?" - Homer Simpson
That's the major rom release, Donut SDK just got released today.
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If you watch the video about Android 1.6 on Android Developer Blog, they mentioned that a main feature added to the 1.6 update is CDMA support. Since Sprint's Hero will be a CDMA phone, it needs Android 1.6. As Sprint is shipping their version of the Hero in October 11, I guess the "major" update for the Hero may get released around that time too. What do you think?
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I concur with your reasoning here - Donut (1.6) is required for CDMA, and the Sprint Hero is CDMA. This will have a different radio obviously, but assuming the rest of the hardware is relatively similar (and the specs would seem to show this) there shouldn't be too much work for HTC getting this ROM working on the GSM Hero, so hopefully it will follow relatively soon after the Sprint Hero is released.
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The recent update is mostly UI (sense) optimisations. In addition there's a number of serious bugs in the applications that HTC needs to address. Some of these bugs were already solved in the applications delivered with the android 1.5 (cupcake) development-kit, so I really hope HTC fixes them too. This includes problems such as calls and SMS's that are missed, and HTC-mail being unable to display certain messages. There are also too frequent application crashes, if you compare the quality of this android-distribution to that of most regular linux distributions. Applications on a hand-held linux-device should be just as stable as those which are used on a linux desktop.
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One quote for you all "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?" - Homer Simpson
That's the major rom release, Donut SDK just got released today.
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Do you have a download link?
around to web browsing on the new ROM? Is the scrolling of pages fast on the websites as well like the Iphone 3GS? There was a lot of lag in scrolling web pages as well.
How are the web pages looking now?
Do we have an equaliser on the new ROM as well?
Has it resolved the google calender sync problem?
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The Donut SDK is on the official Android website, android.com
Drizzy (and Paul from MoDaCo I think) have said that they have a 2.8something version of the software but cannot leak it yet due to their source. Have no idea what it has to offer but hopefully it's another great boost!
I think this was the "minor" update if you can call it that. and that the bigge one will include 1.6 Donut
The US version of the HD2 is going to arrive in 1-2 months. It will definitely include improvements based on the lessons learned with the older european/asian version.
Are we likely to see improvements on the hardware side ?, like including a frontal camera, dedicated power button at the top of the device, capacitive buttons (like on the originial HD's), etc. ?
Any such improvements could seriously lower the value of the european version currently sold. Pretty bad for those who already own one.
Lol, I started this thread more than 2 months ago, it was so clear to me then... (so now we know it's RAM/ROM capacity... I didn't even wanted to mention such a horrible option back then)
May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
I bow to your wisdom Nostradamus...any chance of a hint at what I can expect to get next Christmas when I'm due for an upgrade?
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May I be the first to congratulate myself on being the second person to contribute to this thread in 2 months!!!
So are you keeping or selling yours?
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I'm keeping mine. My first WM7 device is probably going to be HD3, which is going to arrive not long after the US HD2 release.
I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I think it's obvious why HTC release the US version of the HD2 with 1GB ROM: The HD2 arrives to the US market very late, only at ~May. This means that the US market will not get HD3 (WM7 device) at ~October 2010, like the rest of the world (since it's only 5 months after the HD2 is released in the US, no way HTC will release a newer generation to the US market so soon). Still, HTC wants the US market to enjoy WM7 together with the rest of the world, and for this reason they gave the US version of the HD2 the full capability of supporting WM7 (i.e 1GB ROM, which was the only absent requirment).
So, as I see it, in November 2010, all of the world (except the USA) will have the option to enjoy WM7 with the HD3, while the US will get a WM7 upgrade for their HD2.
The european version of the HD2 will probably not get an official WM7 upgrade, due to the smaller ROM size. This will increase HD3 sales in this market.
(I will bump this thread again at November 2010).
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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I had direct confirmation from HTC that we WILL get a WM7 upgrade for the HD2
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Hope you're right. I think if the US version has 1GB ROM, it will be better suited for WM7, and HTC know it.
Well if WM7 needs anything like 500 meg to 1 gig of rom to run they can keep that bloated pile of crap .. Ill stick with what i have already ..
According to a spokesperson at Sony Ericsson's Asia launch of its new smartphones, the Android-based Xperia phones may get updated to Android 2.2 from their current Android 1.6 software in the second half of the year.
The phones in question are the same ones CNET Asia saw at the recent Mobile World Congress held in Barcelona and include the X10, X10 mini and X10 mini pro. Earlier this year, the company had confirmed that the devices will enjoy an upgrade to a newer version of Android. We assumed this would be version 2.1 but were informed today that it "will be an Eclair variant, so it could be 2.1 or even 2.2", according to the spokesperson.
There have been rumors of Android 2.2, most significantly one about a certain HTC Scorpion originating from AndroidSpin. But this is the first time we're hearing about the existence of this version from a device manufacturer. The update timeframe isn't very specific, and could range from four to as distant as eight months from now.
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It doesn't actually say it comes with 2.1 or 2.2, does it?
Just that there'll be an update and maybe to 2.2 already
won't support any form of simultaneous touch. = fail
http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-mango-september-20/
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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i wonder if there will be anything different from the RTM? better auto settings for the camera i hope
Do you have to revert back to nodo or can you update from mango beta 2
I guess there will be new version of EM, as new version of firmware will be on the 7720.68 update.
See the picture from the link below:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/475/412/html/42.jpg.html
Then we may have to figure out the registry and those dlls again.......
According to the Japanese media, typing in other languages, other than those 5, on the keypad should be supported.
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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I don't really get this article. In typical headline-grabbing style WMPU position this article it as fact, without providing any offical source or quote, but then go on to caveat it up to the hilt to cover their back. And typically this has been re-quoted all over the web without so much as a question. Yet up to this point many were saying that existing DVPs wouldn't get an official update. Where is the evidence that Dell have insisted this is true or official? Is it something the rep said in the video?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260411
that post makes it pretty clear that dell is going to do an update.
phone from dell with mango and new firmware.
True, but that's a "brand new" phone. But still doesn't answer why WMPU (and everyone else who jumped on their bandwagon) are treating it as indisputable fact when, as far as I can see, in typical blog style, they've not backed it up with any source or quote.
Still, I guess we've not long to wait and find out!
Probably because the author knows people at Dell:
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...-pro-firmware-revision-coming-next-month.aspx
I'd guess Dell probably aren't allowed to announce a date until Microsoft officially launches Mango. There is a huge Microsoft conference happening at the moment (http://www.buildwindows.com/). Would be very surprised if Mango was not 'launched' officially during the conference.
20th September is the first Tuesday after the conference ends, so it's a plausible date.
Ah, that explains it then. Apologies all round for being such a sceptic!
Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is whenyou see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
The circumstances for the release of mango is different than with Seven and NoDo.
With seven, it was all about timing. Small market release upfront, followed by reaction plan and response.
Nodo was an updat, nothing more.
Mango is a new device focused release. Its step 2 in the MS mobile plan.It released to Operators several weeks ago. What was released back in july is what youll see next week. Anything new since the RTM will be this years nodo. Historically, new OS's have rarely updated near launch date, the focus instead on the new device release. If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them. But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
From someone who has the mango rtm already, but no longer uses the vp as my primary device, i can say i will not move back to the device as my primary device. Its slow and bulky compared to many of the android devices. I do however hold great hope for windows phone and will buy a new device when i see 4g, dual core, and wifi integrated calling. I believe windows phone is better than android. It just doesnt have all the cookies yet.
With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is when you see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them.
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But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
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With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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i can vouch for the information. The person gave me a unit to personally test and write about. I'm pretty sure that's enough to vouch for their reputation.
But realistically, mobile sites are dicy on rumor mill, but that doesn't stop reporting at all. And sadly on more than one occasion, several sites haven't fact checked a rumor before it ran out of commotion (anyone remember the initial HD3 specs fiasco?)
I can understand your skepticism, but that's also why I indicated that delays happen and things get pushed back. Realistically anytime there is a date given by any dev, oem, or company, it always never EVER delivers on that promised date.
But it is news that many want to know about. And the source is extremely RELIABLE and about as official it is going to get regarding dell's restructuring of their mobile division.
You don't have to trust the date, in fact I suggest not to do so. But given the indication that mango is coming in that timeframe (middle of september) clarifies the position that the rumored release date gains more credibility. Also, since TMO gets a bevy of updates on Tuesday for windows phone camp (nodo, security, firmware), Tuesday at least is a relatively big day for tmo as far as pushing out updates are concerned.
That was the point of the article. Seriously no need to overanalyze it, it will make you old and gray =P
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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In the US at least only at&t has announced new hardware and they have committed to a fast update rollout so it would seem there shouldnt really be a delay due to new hardware.
its the 20th! cant wait if this is true!