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for the sake of simplifying my phone, I removed all the tabs and kept only the following:
1. Home
2. People
3. SMS
4. Calendar
5. Settings
Now I see that my battery life is almost double than before.
wow!
That is an interesting observation, and I think I will try it. Have you tried adding the tabs back in to confirm? How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
u will be suprised LOL
thanks for the tip, since i dont really use those tabs much might as well get rid of them
Remove Sense completely and benefit even more
I know some people can't live without it though. Anything that saves power and makes the phone more responsive is a good result.
Well played!
i would...but i dont find titanium smooth...
another note..i have 4 email accounts incl. 1 ms exchange..
The reason why is simple
When u place the tabs Pictures and Music they will take up memory because they keep searching for music and pictures
memory consuumption is no different. still 60% or so with no open apps.
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How long before someone asks for a .cab file?
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That's so funny
i think i missed this...i also disabled the ambient light sensor. that maybe the reason for longer battery life.
how do you disable that? is it the automatically adjust light from battery settings?
Right. I set the brightness min/max permanently insteadof "autmatic".
My internet connection was always on and I generally charged my phone via the computer using the usb lead.
Recently started charging it overnight using the mains and keep the internet connection off when I am not using it. I have noticed a huge difference. Instead of 24hours use, I now easily get a day and a half!
Regards
I read on another site to simply turn off the always on in the wireless settings (not the background data in the sync menu) and my battery life has at least doubled. I was worried that my e-mail would not download or other apps would not work, but all my email still comes. The trick is that while your phone is in sleep mode it does not look for email, but once you use it the phone will get your email. Unless you MUST get your email right away, I would highly recommend changing this setting. All input would be greatly appreciated, I want to see if my good luck is working for other people. On a side note I am using Fresh ROM 2.0d.
Could you post the specific path to the setting you're talking about?
If I set my wifi to anything other than "never sleep", then once my phone goes into sleep mode I have to follow a long, convoluted, pain in the ass procedure to get wifi to work at all.
Hopefully that's not the setting you're talking about?
I posted this exact same thing in another thread two days ago. I was so stoked on my battery performance that I wanted to tell others. It's incredible the difference it makes! If you want even better performance go into Settings>Location...uncheck the use wireless networks box, and check the use GPS. Believe it or not the GPS uses a lot LESS battery life to detect your location than the wireless networks.
I'm getting like 2 whole days out of my phone now after doing these things...and that's with pretty moderate use. Hope other people try it out too.
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Could you post the specific path to the setting you're talking about?
If I set my wifi to anything other than "never sleep", then once my phone goes into sleep mode I have to follow a long, convoluted, pain in the ass procedure to get wifi to work at all.
Hopefully that's not the setting you're talking about?
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where are these options?
I agree, I used the GPS as well, not the use wireless network. I forgot about that one. Your phone will only use the GPS when it needs it, not all the time like we used to think. The exact settings are at MENU/SETTINGS/WIRELESS & NETWORKS/MOBILE NETWORKS\AND UNCHECK ENABLE ALWAYS-ON MOBILE
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If you want even better performance go into Settings>Location...uncheck the use wireless networks box, and check the use GPS. Believe it or not the GPS uses a lot LESS battery life to detect your location than the wireless networks.
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This will vary from person to person. It will depend A LOT on how good your coverage is in the spot you're currently at.
GPS is GPS. It will require the same amount of juice anywhere on the planet.
Cell chips are different. They are hardcoded to give more electricity to the radio circuit when the signal is weak, for obvious reasons. So if you have a cell tower in your back yard, then yeah, you'll get great battery performance relying on cell based options. If your nearest cell tower is 4 miles away, and you're one of those people that loses signal when you go into your basement, then telling your phone to use cell info is only going to chew up battery even faster....
no thanks. This isn't a fix, it's a pref change.
Fix would mean that everything stays the same and you just get better battery life.
But, good advice none the less, just not for me.
scirio said:
no thanks. This isn't a fix, it's a pref change.
Fix would mean that everything stays the same and you just get better battery life.
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Yeah, people on the forum use the word "fix" WAY too quickly.
"Fix" means everything works like you would expect, and like it should. Around here, people use the word "fix" when what they really mean is "here's a half-assed workaround that's a complete pain in the ass, but it will get 10% of the people by until something better comes along...."....
scirio said:
no thanks. This isn't a fix, it's a pref change.
Fix would mean that everything stays the same and you just get better battery life.
But, good advice none the less, just not for me.
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+1 - 6 minutes and counting to receive a test / text msg, while phone is sleeping. Nice the know though, if I need to really trade connectivity for battery duration. I should test whether sms polling is tied to the email polling interval. Cause it ain't interrupt driven with this setting.
edit: i know it's not really sms polling, but rather the lack of an interrupt(-ion of sleep).
Yes, you are right, it is not a fix, but a great way to increase battery life and like I said, everything works the same. I get messages the exact same way and email will go straight to my phone once I use it.
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Yes, you are right, it is not a fix, but a great way to increase battery life and like I said, everything works the same.
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You sure about that?
When my wife sends me a text, I want to see it 5 seconds later, not 5 minutes later.
That may not matter to you, but when you make a statement to the whole world, you have to realize that some of us care about things that you might not.
How thoroughly did you test before you decided to say "everything works the same"?
Did you really test EVERYTHING? Or did you just test "everything that matters to you"?
I used to turn off background data and stuff on my stock 1.5, and I was thrilled I could actually leave it on with 2.1 so I wouldn't have to wait for google voice texts and gmail to come in. With 2.1 I can go the whole day with moderate usage and still have 40% at least left when I go to bed. Let it charge overnight and I'm good. This is good to know though if I am out in the sticks in a pinch and need the extra battery.
maybe it's different in 2.1 but in 1.5 i tried turning off the "always on" setting under mobile network settings under wireless controls but i found that after a while the phone will fail to restart evdo upon awakening and the only way to fix it is reboot. Never tried it on 2.1 but to me between the time on without signal fix nd upgraded radio i get all the battery life i need...
I get messages right away. I just got another one, tested it with a friend and it came right away!
On a side note, messages and phone calls have nothing to do with the internet. Remember we used to get text messages and phone calls way before smart phones.
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On a side note, messages and phone calls have nothing to do with the internet. Remember we used to get text messages and phone calls way before smart phones.
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Key words... "Used to"....
trust me, it works for me, wish it worked for you guys. its great having amazing battery life!
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trust me, it works for me, wish it worked for you guys. its great having amazing battery life!
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But at what cost?
That's the big question here. Are you 100% sure that you're not missing any communications, or having them delayed?
I'd LOVE to have better battery life, but when it comes down to it my phone is a communication tool. If any battery tweaks delay messages, then they're WORSE then useless, they're actually harmful.
If I wanted to use my phone as a half-assed replacement for a PSP, then I'm sure I could squeeze some amazing battery life out of it, too. But above all, and with NO compromise, I must be able to send and receive communications instantly.
That's what a phone is.
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trust me, it works for me, wish it worked for you guys. its great having amazing battery life!
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Have you rebooted while in that mode?
Yes I have rebooted and just did another test. Got the text right away. Even more interesting is I have a program called Mobile Defense which can find your phone if it is missing and that works as well since it is all done through text messages.
Ive been working away with Artemis Ver 9.0 and Radio 2.09. The battery has been superb e.g 3 days worth. The other day I setup Windows Live and my battery drain within 10 hours of very very light useage. I was not ever sign in to messenger but hotmail must of been checking for new emails. So I got back home and logged out of live and disabled my hotmail. Now my phone has its battery life back. I cant put it down to anything else because I had full signal and nothing else running.
Also this fixed my problem with the front screen crashing.
What do you think?
Not sure if you know, but you can change the frequency and time span in which your email is checked. I'd set it to check during a specific period throughout the day, and only every hour or so, depending on your needs.
I made sure hotmail was set to manual but that didnt do anything. I think there might be some sort of bug
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Ive been working away with Artemis Ver 9.0 and Radio 2.09. The battery has been superb e.g 3 days worth. The other day I setup Windows Live and my battery drain within 10 hours of very very light useage. I was not ever sign in to messenger but hotmail must of been checking for new emails. So I got back home and logged out of live and disabled my hotmail. Now my phone has its battery life back. I cant put it down to anything else because I had full signal and nothing else running.
Also this fixed my problem with the front screen crashing.
What do you think?
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I'll have to agree. with windows live active, sync set to manual, battery life was terrible.. without windows live, battery life is much better.
from 9 last night its gone down to 90%! ive used the phone alot for txting. Everyone try it whos having a problem
Breaking news, using data drains battery!
lude219 said:
Breaking news, using data drains battery!
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Thats it, I'm going to get an iPhone.
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I made sure hotmail was set to manual but that didnt do anything. I think there might be some sort of bug
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well i've a cleanex hyperrom with hotmail installed and set to manual. battery lasts for 3 days on light-medium use.
My Mugen EXTENDED Life battery arrived this week and I am not getting the sort of hours that I thought I would get .. I have WiFi and GPS turned off and still getting 24 hours with NO USE AT ALL .. But first....
I use Advanced Task Manager and I just turned on my Streak after not touching it for 24 hours. I go to the area where you END TASKS and I don't think there is one thing that isn't running. Even programs that I have never used since I downloaded them.
It's like my Streak is possessed. It has a mind of its own. ALSO, no matter what I do I cannot make the screen stay on for more than 10 seconds. I change it to 2 minutes but within no time at all it has gone back to the 10 second turn off.
When I end EVERYTHING I close and open Adv Task Manager and these are now running ..
Alarm Clock
Calendar
Outlook Tasks
Tasks Storage
Advanced Task Manager
I wanted my screen to stay on so I could STARE AT IT and see what starts running first, making EVERYTHING follow ..
aaarrrggghhhh ... Am I just going insane ?? I am not kidding when I said that EVERYTHING was running when I turned it on for the first time today.
Diane
CLOSED Advanced Task Manager. Played a game called Beads .. Opened Advanced task Manager .. Besides the ones that were already running .. this is what is running NOW.
Swype
Maps
Beads turns on my maps ?? Playing a game starts Swype? I guess it is a chain reaction? If the Streak checks my email something else will start? I have CNN and a few other News websites on the Streak. They started by them selves or something started them during the time the sStreak was in my purse and also one of my Twitter programs started by itself last night. ONE LAST THING. Beads was NOT running. I ended the game and it really ended. Still it turned on Maps .. or something did.
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=56881#post56881
/me smells copypasta
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http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=56881#post56881
/me smells copypasta
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Yep .. that is MY POST also. I need an answer to my problem. Is posting in 2 forums a no-no ?? I posted here first and nobody has replied, cept you. meanwhile .. my streak is still opening random programs.
you can post as much as you like. i do recommend changing that one parameter in build.prop. dunno why that was ever set to 0.
Please check the frequency of email-fetch on your Streak. It might be so, that it checks your emails kinda every 5 minutes, which kills the battery so fast!
What rom r u using?
Maybe a factory reset N install a new rom I.e 2.2
Also has to do with refresh rates on your Widgets, I had the same problem when I got my streak back in June, I had every screen with an updating widget N it just killed my battery. Looked flash to my mates though, until then started laughing at me having to recharge all the time.
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What's the battery usage like with the dell battery maybe the extended battery are no good
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I found using the "email" app with push just chewed through my battery
When i switched to gmail i got days out of my battery
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you can post as much as you like. i do recommend changing that one parameter in build.prop. dunno why that was ever set to 0.
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I looked and don't see that to change. Someone said should we add it? My other question is what program do you use to edit those files .. seems they open and read only.
ALSO .. I will use the same name here to avoid confusion .. I actually have 'shEEEsh' on both boards. I created the other account one day because for some reason I was having problems logging in. I can't figure out how to unsubscribe.
Hey ..have the same problem...battery life sucks ..and decreased the brightness and stuff but no change ...
Being a newbie to android ..need you guyz to help..as shEEEsh pointed out ,how do u edit the build .prop file ..I used astro to open the file in text but could not find any reference to " debug.sf.hw"....need help here friends ...this is my primary phone ...and need it to run atleast for a day ....
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Im also having this same problem, battery doesnt last for a day, it needs to be charge up 2 times atleast to last a day for just regular usage and not even heavy browsing and multi media stuffs.
Im just hoping the official 2.2 froyo will fix this issue
Right now Im getting alot of dissapointments on my Streak
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Im also having this same problem, battery doesnt last for a day, it needs to be charge up 2 times atleast to last a day for just regular usage and not even heavy browsing and multi media stuffs.
Im just hoping the official 2.2 froyo will fix this issue
Right now Im getting alot of dissapointments on my Streak
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What have u setup ss your mail app ?
I'm having the same issue. Yes I have several email accounts that are checked every 15min. Maybe it's normal but my Touch Pro2 would go almost 24-hours with the same configuration. I unplugged my Streak from the charger 7 hours ago and it's at 59% right now. I am noticing the battery life is getting longer as it goes. First day the battery didn't last 6 hours and it was at 1%...
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What have u setup ss your mail app ?
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just my gmail and 1 yahoo account. Now Im not using it as a phone anymore and its on flight mode, its still draining its battery fast
And my shock is, I'll leave it fully charge when I go to sleep and in the morning I'll see it 47% left in its battery. Device has no sim card, on flight mode and not being use, and still consumes that much battery???
Its on DJ Steve's Froyo 2.2 v1
My last hope is the official Froyo to fix the battery drain and bluetooth headset in-call volume issue.
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just my gmail and 1 yahoo account. Now Im not using it as a phone anymore and its on flight mode, its still draining its battery fast
And my shock is, I'll leave it fully charge when I go to sleep and in the morning I'll see it 47% left in its battery. Device has no sim card, on flight mode and not being use, and still consumes that much battery???
Its on DJ Steve's Froyo 2.2 v1
My last hope is the official Froyo to fix the battery drain and bluetooth headset in-call volume issue.
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Your using the gmail app for checking google mail right ? OR are u using the email app?
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Your using the gmail app for checking google mail right ? OR are u using the email app?
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Im using gmail app for google mail and email app for hotmail. I notice my hotmail is checking every 15mins, so I changed it to never and I uninstalled the yahoo app for my yahoo mail. right now Im charging to full charge then I'll monitor the consumption later. Then I'll report back. thanks
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Im using gmail app for google mail and email app for hotmail. I notice my hotmail is checking every 15mins, so I changed it to never and I uninstalled the yahoo app for my yahoo mail. right now Im charging to full charge then I'll monitor the consumption later. Then I'll report back. thanks
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Delete any accounts setup to use the email app and report back, i had the same problem with the email app, just creamed my battery, after switching to gmail app (fortunatly i only have gmail accounts) i got days out of my battery, not hours
I kid you not
Report back
I did a complete reset and whatever the problem was is now GONE .. After the reset I did an over night charge. Woke up Sunday with a FULL Mugen Extended battery. My son played with my Streak for hours Sunday. Mostly YouTube and internet radio. I spent lots of time re-installing all the programs and entering email accounts etc. I have my settings to NEVER turn the phone screen off because it is just annoying .. ESPECIALLY when playing a 'thinking' game.
Today has been 72 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am at 58% .. I am not going to put it on the charger until it won't start !!
using 3g data will eats your loads of battery.
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I did a complete reset and whatever the problem was is now GONE .. After the reset I did an over night charge. Woke up Sunday with a FULL Mugen Extended battery. My son played with my Streak for hours Sunday. Mostly YouTube and internet radio. I spent lots of time re-installing all the programs and entering email accounts etc. I have my settings to NEVER turn the phone screen off because it is just annoying .. ESPECIALLY when playing a 'thinking' game.
Today has been 72 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am at 58% .. I am not going to put it on the charger until it won't start !!
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Is your email still setup the same as previously ?
So, my phone has been running fine for weeks (it was at I think like 600+ hours uptime before I had to reboot it for the first time two days ago). I'm running Apex 1.4.1, with no custom modifications. I was using it one day, then a little later it just started freezing for several seconds anytime I tried to do anything, then unfreezing for a couple seconds, then freezing, etc. I rebooted it, then it was fine for a little while. Then I was texting someone back and forth for an hour or so, and all of a sudden it stopped sending my messages. I rebooted, and it was able to send again. Now today apparently she isn't getting them again, because she asked the same question I already replied to, over an hour later (I mean, she could have just not seen the reply, but with the other recent problems I'm not betting on it...).
Has anyone seen issues like this? Also, come to think of it, Yahoo Mail has been acting just retarded...it keeps disabling status bar notifications on its own (twice so far), but regardless, when it IS notified, it's not letting me know when I get new emails, I have to go in and look. My batteries been dying a LOT faster, and my data usage has been steadily climbing over the last couple days (I haven't downloaded anything, and my normal usage recently has only been very basic) and I have a feeling Yahoo Mail has been constantly trying to connect but failing, except for when I manually go into it? But that's just a guess.
This is all just bugging me, so any suggestions would be helpful. I can just backup my needed apps, wipe and re-flash Apex, but if anyone has any other suggestions I would love to hear them. Thanks
Well I think you went wrong when you didn't shut it off for over 600 hours. Did you really need it to be on at that time? Even at night?
But anyway that's just my rant. Reflashing apex would be a good place to start. And make sure you just wipe everything. If that doesn't work, you may want to go completely back to stock and then back to apex
So you're saying this OS is not as stable as Windows? Because I've had Windows OS's stay running for months without issue. Gee, if Android isn't is good as Windows, maybe I should look into getting a WP7 phone... /sarcasm
If there aren't issues, then there's no reason to turn off your phone. Shutting it down at night is good if you don't want to charge it, but it really shouldn't be a requirement unless if Android isn't ready for prime-time (and no, I'm not saying that's the case). I had an issue, I rebooted, I had another issue, I rebooted, I had ANOTHER issue, rebooted, and so far it's been good since yesterday afternoon.
I really think it was the Yahoo Mail app though I don't know why it would have prevented sending text messages... I did a force stop, cleared it's data, removed it, rebooted, and then reinstalled the app. So far, it's been working OK from what I can tell. The data usage has slowed, battery life seems to be good again, and I'm getting notified of new Yahoo emails.
Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
Like I said, I have. My file server (Windows Server 2003) has been running (except for a few brief shutdowns for hardware upgrades/swaps) for over 2 years. My main PC (Windows 7) has been running, for the most part, except for a few times when I just felt like shutting it down, for probably the last 6 months.
Ok well if it works for you, then great keep doing it. But I'm just saying, as a computer guy, that is just a general bad idea
Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Nice to know, but I'm also a "computer guy" (professionally) and as a rule of thumb I keep my office computer on 24/7/365, as well as my home computers.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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Actually I am not at all concerned with the software. I was talking about the hardware. Would you leave your computer running for 600+ hours?
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Why would you shut it off? I don't think leaving it on all the time is the issue. why shut your cell phone off? I think that's stupid. Then again I'm a midnighter so I guess things are different for me. I never shut off my cell phone or PC.
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Since you are a computer guy, could you please explain how there aren't any adverse effects on your hardware from keeping it running? Primarily on the cpu and fans? No chance you could burn something out?
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It's designed to run like that. I'm a big PC guy as well. I do a few custom builds here and there. Seriously turning it off and on all the time it going to cause more damage (especially to your HDD) then keeping it on all the time. It's like a car being in stop and go traffic versus highway mileage. I think the last time I shut my PC off was around Christmas cause I had to reformat and couldn't get it done before I went to work so since my network wasn't up yet no reason to keep it on.
Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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Computers aren't like cars..."gunk" and "sludge" (and yes, I'm getting these highly technical terms from TV because I know crap about cars) don't build up in computers. Pieces wear out, sure. But that can happen just as easily from frequent turning on and off. Like I said, my two computers at home stay on almost constantly, and I don't exactly dust or vacuum frequently. The last thing I had to replace was in my gaming PC, and that was the video card since it was two years old and couldn't play Crysis 2 well enough.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Well...yeah, obviously. But if someone tries to call me in the middle of the night for an emergency, and I don't get the call because my phone was off, well, that would suck. But with Apex, I've went to sleep on, for instance, 80% battery, woke up, and the battery still said 80%. As for my computers, well, yeah, that costs me a little more per month, but it's not breaking my bank, so it doesn't bother me.
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I don't know much about cars either. Maybe I wasn't using the correct tone, but I actually agree with you. Like I had said in my post I keep my machines running 24/7 usually same with cell phone. I don't know crap about cars either the only reason I used the comparison is that wear and tear from city driving or stop and go traffic (when compared to turning your pc on and off frequently) is worse than freeway or long distance without stop driving (as referring to keeping your PC on) So yea we are pretty much saying the same thing
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Lol Sorry, I wasn't referring to your posts (we just both happened to use car references).
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Hey thank you for explaining it to me this way. I never thought of it like that. You are probably right. Excuse me for just one more question though: would keeping it on all the time actually end up using more power than you would if you kept it off?
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Yea but honestly if your pc isn't super holy **** beast mode it isn't going to be that noticeable. I have a nice higher-end PC and it isn't that bad on my bill.