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havnt seen this one yet... but for u admins are u guys going to make an update to get the new tf3d like on the new touch pro 2 ?
didnt see this yet so am sorry if there is one out...
anyone there to make a new manila 3 cab???
i was looking for that also...i know that touch pro users can find a manila cab, but i could not find anyone making cab with manila 3 for touch hd... .
not everyone want or can install new rom to be able to use new manila....is there anyone who could prepare new manila 3 cab????
you'll find the new manila is useless without an updated rom, mate
you do not need an updated ROM for the porting of the Touch Pro. It runs on 19xxx version of Windows in fact. Some additional add-ons (like enhanced notifications and menus) don't work but those are not a part of TF3D itself.
cool thanks for the heads up mate
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
is anyone working on the beta for the touch hd (blackstone)??
Khalild said:
this thread has a beta version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
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That's VGA not WVGA so it wont fit the screen on the Touch HD.
Cab for the new calendar?
Hi,
I have got a Touch HD and I am happy with it. The only thing that bothers me, is the Windows mobile calendar. I saw that on the new TFD 2.5 the calendar has improved significantly. Great optic and no WM even when adding an appointment! That is what I was waiting for!! I really want this calendar!! I never modified anything on my device as I am scared to screw up my Touch HD! Is there a possibility to get a cab with the new calendar on the "old" Touch HD TFD? My version should be the 1.3.353...
Please help me... Sorry if it is a impossible thing to ask...
Thanx!
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
Faguopal said:
Hi,
Same for me... meaning I'm a noob in this topic and I would like to understand a bit about TF3D because I have seen in several post that there are other versions (2.5....)
My HD has 1.3.35601.1_1630.38 version of TF3D.
Is there any interest for me to upgrade? I have not found a clear explanation of what the new versions are offering...
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Your currently using manila 1.3. The latest manila versions have a better/smoother, more finger friendly interface with additional options & displays (i.e. weather displayed on home tab below clock to name one). Also manila 2.0+ has landscape enabled so you can view all tabs in landscape mode as well as portrait
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
Faguopal said:
Thanks,
So is there any way to easily update to 2.0? I'm not used to make modifications so I'm affraid to put the mess in my HD ...
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I haven't seen a way yet on the HD to update to another version of manila without having to flash a new rom. Its possible on other devices to port to another manila, but as I said, I haven't seen this avilable yet on the HD
Hi guys !
Looking at new manila 2.6 videos on topaz and HD, from duttys new rom, can anyone port this so it would be available for HTC TOUCH DIAMOND ?
i would very like to use it, but i dont want to buy new phone at this point
thank you so much
2 nice reviews on the diamond 2 here from pocketnow,, looking forwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igRAl0swRsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZhI9myqjdo&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=52A0239A0BAF7295
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Hi guys !
Looking at new manila 2.6 videos on topaz and HD, from duttys new rom, can anyone port this so it would be available for HTC TOUCH DIAMOND ?
i would very like to use it, but i dont want to buy new phone at this point
thank you so much
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be patient, devs are working on it porting it. Nothing available yet.
this looks fantastic, they did great job on finger friendly thing buttons seems bigger and easy to press, i hope it'll soon release on our diamonds too...
but what about manilla 2.5?
I can't find any rom with manilla 2.5 for gsm diamond
csjneek said:
but what about manilla 2.5?
I can't find any rom with manilla 2.5 for gsm diamond
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541026
just check this thread...
good luck
Manila 2.6 for HTC diamond 1
Hi,
is there a way to install the last version of manila (2.6) on my HTD Touch Diamond 1 (WM 6.1) ?
Thanks
ellaia said:
Hi,
is there a way to install the last version of manila (2.6) on my HTD Touch Diamond 1 (WM 6.1) ?
Thanks
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Only by flashing this rom at the moment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565078
I see it and it looks like some sort of UI mod for Manila. anyone have ideas? is this HTC or 3rd party/dev add-on?
thanks!!!
sense = manila
and plz. search next time you are a member!
Sense - what the heck is it?
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To be honest, I'm not quite clear either, even after searching, and I've spent many, many hours in this forum. It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
I wait to be flamed, but isn't Sense just "tarted up" TouchFlo3D with a new snappier name that makes marketing easier? I imagine "Manila" was the original name (an acronym?) for HTC's (at the time) new interface to overlay the WM interface. So, Manila would mean both TF3D and Sense?
Pete_S said:
It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
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There is something to be said about having a general dictionary or list of product names on the forum. There are many names that I don't know and it can take ages to find what they are.
For starters I DID search - plz don't assume something
I do agree that a dictionary of terms would be great.
A breakdown of the convention
TouchFLO: The UI modification designed by HTC.
Manila: Version 2.0 / 2.1 of the TouchFLO UI
Sense: Version 2.5 of the TouchFLO UI
Think of it as codenames, very much like internal build names for the devices.
Touch Diamond 2 = Topaz, for instance, in the same way as TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
DeathJester said:
TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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UAuuuu YOU have TouchFLO 3.0 or TouchFLO3D ? Or you are from the future and made some fun with us?
The last what I see here it's 2.6 I think...not sure...
You can share with us?
Mike Austin said:
I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
br,
Chris
cyron_at said:
would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
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I don't know how to do a screen dump, so I just took a photo:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
pauln said:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
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Oh dear! I would not want to upset anyone still busily upgrading to the latest start-of-the-art TouchFLO 2.n by having TouchFLO 3.n
This is the standard TouchFLO for T-Mobile written by HTC. Maybe they started new numbering for T-Mobile? Does the build number you quote relate to all TouchFLO versions or just the TouchFLO 2.n versions?
Manila 2.1 is now called HTC Sense in the new 6.5 upgrade ROMs.
Sense is (AFAIK) the "My Location" bit of Manila that allows you to display the weather for my location on the today screen, it's also the code name for the HTC Hero interface that first demostrated weather on the Today screen.
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense, but then it was added so it's manila 2.1+Sense, manila 2.5 has always had it.
Dave
Right, I hope everyone's clear on that now
So, extracting from the various posts:
1. TouchFLO was the first HTC interface add-on to WM.
2. Manila was the second HTC interface. It became known popularly as TouchFlo3D or TF3D for short.
3. Sense is an update for Manila which includes "location awareness". It has also replaced TF3D as the popular name for Manila since v2.5
So, Manila is still Manila, but it's known popularly as Sense now rather than TF3D?
PS:
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense
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Hee Hee, that's nonsense then ...
Sorry, Dave, feel free to ban me for life for that dreadful joke
Manila - Finger Friendly Graphic User Interface - this is platform
Touch Flo - The Interface Plug-in for visualization of Manila platform
Sense - the same as Touch Flo but new release
So this is good, in this single thread I am able to get a better understanding of each of the versions of UI.
there also OS versions and I assume that TF3D, Manila, and Sense are bound to min versions?
Microsoft has released the following over the last 18 months:
WM 6.1 - mostly found on non-touch devices but I understand has Touch support
WM 6.5 (Windows Phone branded lunch) - fully Touch aware albeit mostly still has the small buttons like "OK" or "X" or "CLOSE" these are not fingure friendly although the UI does fully support Touch devices.
WM 6.5.1 - NOT RELEASED. this is the name MS us using for an Interim release (between 6.5 and 7.0) this release will fix many bugs and update the UI to with the "Fat Finger" tabs instead of the little "were is my stylus!" buttons. there are a few ROMs out there that have these features and they dramatically improve the usability (IMHO). I am running build 32502.x1 (Shadowline - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618&highlight=23502) and also Optimal Champious (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573896&highlight=23502). the first has Sense, the second does not (no Manila/Sense).
WM 7.0 - NOT RELEASED. According to my Microsoft contacts will be a complete consumer friendly UI. I suspect this is going to be positioned as the optimal iPhone competitor along with a slew of new devices. My thought is the LEO (albeit big) with WM 7.0 will rock. There is no date but I would bet this come out in late summer/fall of 2010. think about MS cycles for other consumer projects. you need to hit the holiday season or wait till next year.
IF you are still running the stock WM 6.5 that came with your ATT Pure, I recommened (but caution if you are not comfortable and know the risk of 'bricking' your phone is possible) that you check out the new builds. 23502.X or greater like OC, Shadowline builds have been running on my devices for almost a week and they are much improved over the stock.
I only wish there was an iphone like (for fat fingers) keyboard out there.
Just to add, there are lots of great keyboards out there and I have tried a couple of them. I am thinking the screen size on the Topaz is the reason why vs. the iphone.
I keep seeing these buzzwords, but can't find a single scrap of info on what they are...I mean before I can learn the difference between Sense 2.1 and 2.5 I'd like to know what Sense is in the first place.
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.
Tofferbear said:
I keep seeing these buzzwords, but can't find a single scrap of info on what they are...I mean before I can learn the difference between Sense 2.1 and 2.5 I'd like to know what Sense is in the first place.
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.
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Well, first off. i moved you over to the software area since the section you posted in was rom develoupment.. this answer is more simple and can be found just by searching..
Serious, if you search sense 2.1 or sense 2.5, you'll find i'm sure plenty of screenshots.
next off you can flash the roms in the rhodium section and find out exactly how to use them.
and touchflo-manilla-sense are all the same thing, just different versions as you can see via the screenshots on many of the threads around here.
I wish you happiness in your flashing,
Josh
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Well, first off. i moved you over to the software area since the section you posted in was rom develoupment.. this answer is more simple and can be found just by searching..
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Ah yes...that probably would have improved my luck when searching. Doh! Thank you for moving the thread to the correct location and giving me the quick and dirty explination.
Tofferbear said:
Ah yes...that probably would have improved my luck when searching. Doh! Thank you for moving the thread to the correct location and giving me the quick and dirty explination.
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yea sorry, it was a bit dirty. .. basically try flashin.. it's great..
Peace,
Josh
joshkoss said:
yea sorry, it was a bit dirty. .. basically try flashin.. it's great..
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Oh yeah, I've been flashing my Fuze for some time now...just waiting for the Hard SPL folks to help me...it won't install for some silly reason and I got a trouble ticket in with them to get it figured out. hehehe.
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific? I've been using NATF's ROMs on my Fuze and loved them...but he's working on CDMA stuff currently so I guess I need to peruse someone elses efforts for the TP2. hehehe.
Oh yeah...another thing I've been having trouble finding info on is what the difference is between EnergyROM's Leo and Photon ROM's...I think I've read through the entire thread's of both posts and it's never mentioned. hehehe.
Tofferbear said:
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific?
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and now after I look at your sig I guess I could just try the ROM you made first.
Rom is all personal preference. It all depends on what you want to your phone for and your personal taste. It takes a lot of flashing to find the right cook for you.
My personal choice is Josh in here for TP2, been using his ROMs from Hermes days...
joshkoss said:
... and touchflo-manilla-sense are all the same thing, just different versions
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So (he said, scratching his head) does this mean that TF3d 2.1.x == Manila 2.1.x == Sense 2.1.x? Or are the versions more subtle than that, such that (for example, not designed to reflect reality) 2.1.189 == TF3D; 2.1.190 == Manila; 2.1.191 == Sense?
Tofferbear said:
I "think" Manila is a codeword for the Touch Flo app, but I wasn't sure...any help would be appriciated.
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Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
ahhh, the light goes on, thank you.
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Oh yeah, I've been flashing my Fuze for some time now...just waiting for the Hard SPL folks to help me...it won't install for some silly reason and I got a trouble ticket in with them to get it figured out. hehehe.
Can you suggest anyone's ROM in specific? I've been using NATF's ROMs on my Fuze and loved them...but he's working on CDMA stuff currently so I guess I need to peruse someone elses efforts for the TP2. hehehe.
Oh yeah...another thing I've been having trouble finding info on is what the difference is between EnergyROM's Leo and Photon ROM's...I think I've read through the entire thread's of both posts and it's never mentioned. hehehe.
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LEO is the Manila2.5 flavor of the rom from the HD2
PHOTON is the Manila2.1 flavor which now has the weather clock from Manila2.5, This version also come in a Chrome/Titanium only version.
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LEO is the Manila2.5 flavor of the rom from the HD2
PHOTON is the Manila2.1 flavor which now has the weather clock from Manila2.5, This version also come in a Chrome/Titanium only version.
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Thanks...I didn't know that. Someone on the Photon thread also mentioned that the Leo doesn't use the slide out keyboard either...makes sense if it's for the HD2.
Shasarak said:
Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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Wow...you need to write that up for a sticky post or something...that's the most definative answer I've ever seen about it. Thx!
Shasarak said:
Manila, TouchFLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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I second that comment
Cheers for a Great Explanation The best I read so far
This should be put in all the HTC users manuals from now on.
Thanks
It is ABOUT TIME someone wrote this!
Shasarak said:
Manila, Touch FLO and Sense are all basically the same thing - they all refer to the TouchFLO UI. "Manila" is an internal HTC codename, and you may find a file on your phone somewhere called manila.exe which is the actual executable (launched by the Windows Mobile "Today" screen). TouchFLO was the original marketing name for Manila; it was later renamed "TouchFLO 3D". It's now been renamed again to "Sense UI", and HTC is now marketing "Sense" as a sort of cross-OS platform; so "Sense" (as now used by HTC) can refer not only to the UI on the Touch Pro2, but also to the customised UI on the HTC Hero (which runs Android).
Manila version 2.0 is the one that appears on the original Touch Pro2 ROM (the one that includes Window Mobile 6.1). Manila 2.1 is the version that appears on the WM6.5 version of the standard Touch Pro2 ROM form HTC. Manila 2.5 is the version from the HTC HD2 phone.
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Yes, everyone could glean this info after days/weeks reading ROM Development forums, but thats not the point. When you come in a room in the middle of a complex discussion, it's really nice when someone stops the group and catches you up. By reading and making inferences, I have HTC's code-names mostly straight in my mind, but a post like this, (or one just like it) as part of the 1st page of EVERY HTC DEVICE'S ROM Development Page would help a lot of people. A side effect would be a reduction in the amount of stupid questions.
Yes, HTC likes to try and keep things fresh, by putting a new name, a new spin and a new face on basically the same concepts they have been pedaling since TouchFlo was introduced.
Heck, I work at IBM: Netfinity, eServer, X-Series, System X - whats different? Nothing. Whats in a name? A lot. Its how you make whats old new again!
Even works in reverse. Microsoft said when introducing Windows 95:
No more General Protection Faults (GPFs)! That was true. They just started calling them "Illegal Operations" (remember those?)
i try to search ALOT before asking questions on this forum...if you don't, the super geeks will strike...!!!
most here are friendly and courteous...i just ask all to remember that not everyone on these boards are tech freaks & non-searchers (if that is a word)...
i have used this site for a few years and have yet to flash a device...that may be about to change...
Go for it! Flashing has a LOT to offer
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i try to search ALOT before asking questions on this forum...if you don't, the super geeks will strike...!!!
most here are friendly and courteous...i just ask all to remember that not everyone on these boards are tech freaks & non-searchers (if that is a word)...
i have used this site for a few years and have yet to flash a device...that may be about to change...
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My experience with flashing has been good, if sometimes a bit frustrating. The cooks are very willing to accomodate ideas, fix things and generally give you what you want and need. However, most are always in the hunt for "the next great thing" (which we all are, in way) and that hunt sometimes causes things to get left behind.
Tell you what, I realized just the other day that if I am ever going to get my device to exactly where I want it (which changes for me too, from time to time) I am going to have to start cooking. Yes, I will have to learn a lot more and mistakes are iminent (as long as I don't brick my Touch Pro2 in the process) But my desires are not alltruistic. I just want things the way I want them LOL.
Let me just add my thanks to the finest set of very few words that truly made a difference.
Several people have been very kind about post #9 in this thread. I don't know that it really deserves all this positive attention, but it is appreciated, and you are all welcome.
with the Touchflo 2.1. I hate the calendar (month and day only) and want to know if there is a 2.5 download for the Tilt 2? I have seen others but they are for non-Tilt phones (Leo and Topaz). Also, I have Pocket Informant from a previous Tilt (TyTn II) and would prefer to use that for my calendar and contacts. Can I make these the default or am I stuck with the Touchflo versions?
I contacted HTC this morning...
and 2.5 is not compatible with the Tilt 2. Also they cannot/will not assist on changing the default calendar/contacts to a 3rd party application such as Pocket Informant.
Does anyone here have any advice and another course of action?
Have a look around the Rhodium ROM development forum. You CAN upgrade to Manila 2.5 (though the landscape version is still a bit buggy) and it will invalidate your warranty...
I have looked but not sure
what I'm looking for. I have searched Manilla 2.5 and Touchflo 2.5 but cannot get any hits on these queries.
StoneyBK said:
what I'm looking for. I have searched Manilla 2.5 and Touchflo 2.5 but cannot get any hits on these queries.
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TouchFlo 2.5
Ok, but this is for the Diamond
Will is work on the Tilt 2? There was another Touchflo 2.5 developed by someone called "udk" but it was designed for the Leo and Topaz stating it will not work on the Tilt 2.
I realize I'm asking a lot of questions but I'm a relative noob and don't want to screw up my phone.
I see all these different versions (blackstone, leo, topaz) and have no idea if they are phones or operating systems, however I DO the difference between a Fuze, Pure Tilt 2 and Touch Pro 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476
this is the main thread for manila 2.5, some people have tried to use it on the tilt 2, and there are a few glitches, but nothing show stopping
Thanks, I'll give it a look
when I get home as I'm on my work pc and cannot sync with it.
just to make sure that it is clear,
Manila 2.5 = touchFlo 2.5 (it is better known as Sense 2.5)
Manila 2.1 = touchFlo 2.1 (it is better known as Sense 2.1)
so if you saw Sense 2.1 know its Manila 2.1 & touchFlo 2.1 .. just different faces for the same coin ...
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Have a look around the Rhodium ROM development forum. You CAN upgrade to Manila 2.5 (though the landscape version is still a bit buggy) and it will invalidate your warranty...
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It will not invalidate your warranty! As long as you flash back and remove hardspl, you will still be able to get the unit fixed under warranty. It is the same with computers with upgrades and OS changes. Bring it back to factory and there will not be any issue.
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Will is work on the Tilt 2? There was another Touchflo 2.5 developed by someone called "udk" but it was designed for the Leo and Topaz stating it will not work on the Tilt 2.
I realize I'm asking a lot of questions but I'm a relative noob and don't want to screw up my phone.
I see all these different versions (blackstone, leo, topaz) and have no idea if they are phones or operating systems, however I DO the difference between a Fuze, Pure Tilt 2 and Touch Pro 2.
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The info on Blackstone, Leo, Topaz etc. is all here on this very site. Look in the Wiki, or Device database and you will see that the names refer to the different phones. The only ROMs you should be using are for Rhodium (HTC's internal development name), AT&T Tilt2 and Touch Pro2. Also be aware that there are CDMA versions of the Touch Pro2. Flash a non GSM version to your phone and you may brick it. If you have a Telus, Sprint or other CDMA version of the TP2, you can flash a GSM ROM to it, but you have to have a sim card to use it. You cannot flash a GSM phone to a CDMA as there is no built in hardware.
KPoon said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476
this is the main thread for manila 2.5, some people have tried to use it on the tilt 2, and there are a few glitches, but nothing show stopping
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The recent T-Mobile ROM that had been leaked has landscape built in by HTC. The link you gave is no longer needed as most cooks are using the T-Mobile leaked 2.5 sense version.