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Hi there, due to the fact that the search option doesn't work with less then 4 characters, i can't search for "sms".
But here's my real problem:
I've flashed different roms into my mda vario, after unlocking it. First the Molski.biz rom, then the last original t-mobile rom, but it was toooo slow, i've imediatly deleted it, en flashed the mr clean rom.
But in all roms i have some delay in recieving sms-messages.
Half the time they appear directly after they were sent by my friends, but sometimes i get them after a few hours. for example: it was sent at 15:00, and i received it at 17:30.
And sometimes i don't get any sms-messages, and after an soft-reset, i get 10 at one time, all delayed.
does anyone know what to do about it? or what causes it?
Regards,
Twan
i sometimes get this too though not often its usually when my phone loses signal and when it comes back into signal it wont recevie txt messages until i soft reset or send another txt out then ill get like 4 all at once lol.
Wizard isnt the best phone for txtin i must say as i send a good 1,000 txts a month and so far its poor.
Sounds like a network issue to me...
The network isn't registering the phone or something similar. For SMS the towers "push" the messages to the phone. Queuing them when they don't detect the phone on the network. If the phone is on the network and not getting the messages until it is reset and forced to re-acquire its signal than it is a network problem.
I've seen this problem on a few networks regardless of phone make and model.
I would agree with the above, its a provider issue not a phone issue.
I have a debate with Orange about 10 years ago about not getting text messeges when I loose and then regain service. I was told that when a text is sent to a phone that is off or lost a signal the message is stored until a set time has passed and then delivery is retried, thus getting all the messages at once. The way 'around' this is the disconnect the phone from the network and re-connect. This forces a scan of the message queues and again you will get all messages in one go.
I would assume going in to Flight Mode and back will do the same thing as a soft boot, but I have not tested this.
Okay,
so i could suggest it's not quitte an rom- or wizzard-issue, but a network-issue.
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
I'm busy reflashing a new rom into my wizzard.
TwanS said:
I also think going to flightmode and back will solve the problem. So we will hear from you if that's a solution?
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I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
bilbo_28 said:
I would hope that as you seeing the problem that you could test this. I get all my texts on time (luckely) so I can't help you I am afraid, I can just share my thoughts.
Let us know how you get on.
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I've tried, but now there's nobody who has sent me an sms
ghehe, i'll wait....
but i do think it will work.
i'll keep you posted
This is happening to me all of a sudden and its not a network issue. I have 4 phones on my account and i texted between all of them and only my phone won't get the messages UNLESS I reboot my phone or use smartskey to close a window.
Here is the strange part, when a text message is sent to my phone, the screen turns on, but doesn't show the message pop.
Is smartskey blocking it?
Also, closing a window by clicking on the X also kicks the message to come through
I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
same here ...
goth_boarder said:
I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
padlad said:
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
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Urgh, I reckon I'm gonna do an exchange in the 28 day period when we get them back in stock and see if that sorts all, or at least most, the problems out, just having a new phone from new batch.
i had this problem.... tooo
it really terrbile as i wont able to know which is my sms with his reply
Ive got this too, i'm on O2 UK and messages i receive are all 2-3 minutes too early and so put the text conversation out of sync.
This has happened a couple of times to me, but usually leaving the SMS app and then going back in fixes it.
Either that or the person who you're texting has the time wrong on their phone.
ya they maybe set wrong timing.. but is petty hard to find ppl who had the time timing as ur hahah
so the sms should be basic on our clock
i used to have screwed up SMS conversations too. you guys can try installing the SMS fix. it is working for me for now.
SMS fix from where??
from HTC.com
i installed but it doesnt not fix for me
Any chance there's a daylight savings time mix up?
no... my time was setting correctly..
there is only one clock setting how can it mix up??
somemore is from same zone..
no fix for this?
I have had this problem too.
Try setting your clock right...
You can do something like: when receiving a message check its time and change yours to match that one...
It should solve the problem.
i just got the tmo us hd2 and it seems only after midnight some peoples texts start coming in a day previously. i just had 3 conversations and one person came at the right time, and the other 2 came as if they were 24 hours behind
I've had the same problem recently, I just assumed it was an O2UK problem, I had it very occasionally with my Diamond.
It's fine at the moment, so I just put it down to peak text time. Lol.
*edit* HA! I just got a text as a was writing this post, it's now 10:15am and the text is time stamped 08:53am, I should have touched wood!
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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
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Sorry but htis has nothing to do with the phone.
Im on O2 germany and everything works fine.
Maybe your setup was wrong or your provider has an issue.
SMS faults are mainly providerissues.
I dont know which rom you are using but i dont have any issue with the updated stock rom.
Hi,
I've got big problem... When I send SMS to someone and he has turned off phone, I get a delivery notification. When he turn on phone, I get another. So in this point, delivery notification are useless for me, because they don't tell me that someone gets message or not... It's quite confusing. I searched for similar problem, but no luck...
Of course when someone had turned on phone I get only one, proper delivery notification,
Rom which now I use is TESS 4.2, but rom isn't a problem (same on Energy, Shadowline, billyj80, bysio), operator is Polish Orange.
Anyone have any ideas?
goofy3 said:
Hi,
I've got big problem... When I send SMS to someone and he has turn off phone, I get a delivery notification. When you switch on phone, I get another. So in this point, delivery notification are useless for me, because they don't tell me that someone gets message or not... It's quite confusing. I searched for similar problem, but now luck...
Of course when someone has turn one phone I get only one, proper delivery notification,
Rom which now I use is TESS 4.2, but rom isn't a problem (same on Energy, Shadowline, billyj80, bysio), operator is Polish Orange.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Are you talking about "SMS send notification" or "SMS delivery notification"?
The first one you receive directly after sending the SMS (notification from your device). The second one when the SMS is arrived on the device of your correspondent (notification from the network). Both of them you can enabling and disabling with Advanced Config or another Config-tool...
Hi,
I talk about delviery notification
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Hi,
I talk about delviery notification
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Then you can nothing do I think... Maybe you can call your operator for asking how this is possible...
Do you have it with only one contact or with other numbers to?
I've got this problem with diffrent numbers (and diffrent ops), earlier on Trinity everything was ok, so realy I don't know what is going on... Maybe somthing wrong with radio?
goofy3 said:
I've got this problem with diffrent numbers (and diffrent ops), earlier on Trinity everything was ok, so realy I don't know what is going on... Maybe somthing wrong with radio?
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No, no, no, you receive the message when the sms is received by your contact. Your device and your radio can't know that... It's your operator who send you the message. So you can do nothing, except disabling it. Best idea is to call your operator...
Hmm... Just a while ago, I make test. I send sms from topaz to turned off phone and of course I get delivery message :/ When I turned it on, I got second one. Next, I insert SIM to my second phone, e52, send SMS to switched off phone and what? Nothing. I wait 5minutes, no delivery report. I switched on phone, and when sms arrived I get message.
So it is something with Topaz, not operator...
My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
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My old sony ericcson phone used to hold an sms in the outbox if i had no signal and send it when i did.
This phone just pops up a very annoying message saying it cant be sent. I live in an area with very poor signal, and really need this phone to try for a while before telling me it cant send.
How can this be done?
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Do search and ask around the ROM Development thread.
Pretty sure there's a cab to turn off the annoying notification.
As for the how many times the device should try to attempt sending an SMS before giving up, it should be somewhere in the Messaging setting for SMS/MMS. Please check. But you should consider that it will drain your battery rigorously.
im interested in this too, ur option BumAround doesnt awnser his question. he just wants the phone to see hey i got signal lets send this message i have in my outbox. not letting the phone keep trying to send it. (wich at its highest settings only tries to send it for like 30 seconds.)
@ jamieeeee, your right, is it possible to program the phone to do this? As i ponted out, its not new technology, and im surprised all phones dont do it!
exactly where is the setting to try sending out [messages, be it SMS or MMS] for 30 sec attempt? I thought it was only how many attempts (read: times)
well, if that being the case, no solution that I know of except: (1)experiment with better radio ROM, or (2)install a signal booster at where you live. Sorry.
i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
I have been asking for since i first came to windows mobile early 2009, havnt found a single thing yet!
If my sony ericcson k750i can do it without losing its battery, then why cant a much more advanced windows mobile device do it!?
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i asked this question before... but it got brushed off considering that most people on here very seldom help other members.... but yea.. i despise having to constantly retry send over and over until i get better reception and it finally goes through... i would much rather have it just continue trying ON ITS OWN... there has to be a tweak or something which enables something so simple as this... i will continue searching but let me know if you find any updates towards it.. THIS WILL BE VERY USEFUL TO ME... i also live in a area with poor reception... (sucks cause RIGHT when i leave my apartments and onto the streets.. i have 3g...) lame...
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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Well, but then constantly attempting to send on its own will mean battery drains, don't you think?
What you actually want is a cab that makes the phone on perpetual attempts mode until it succeeded, and then prompt a notice, is it ?
I still believe your best bet is to install signal booster somewhere in your house. Well, upon googling, I stumbled into this survivalist's method, cheap sticker thingy, to this expensive amp/booster.
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NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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Yes thats exactly what we need, but i have no idea where to start..... Does anyone?
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NO.... i don't "think" that sending a sms will put a drain to the battery.. even when retrying on its own... like the OP has stated.. old flip phones and what not have that ability so i HIGHLY doubt that it would be much different on a far more advanced phone... dont YOU think???
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bobbified said:
Other phones don't actually make constant attempts at resending the message after it fails the first time...
The unsent message sits in the outbox as a pending task until a signal is detected. When the phone detects a signal, the phone will make another attempt at sending the message, which is then usually successful.
A drain on the battery will only happen if the phone makes continuous attempts at resending the message regardless of whether or not it detects a signal. In this case, if the phone is set to retry every 30 seconds and someone is in an area where there is no signal for say 5 hours, the drain on the batter will be the equivalent of sending 600 messages!
The solution that we need is the first one where the message will in the outbox until the phone detects a signal....
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still doubting that *perpetual attempts* of sending out an SMS will NOT drain the batt. oh well, but anyway....
so, the SMS is designed to sit in the outbox until the phone detects decent amount of signal strength to (re)sending out the SMS successfully.
all being said, the OP actually need the *failure message* (due to signal strength or no signal) to be silenced (no pop up window), until the SMS is being sent out successfully.
does it make sense?
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
i think we're getting close.. someone please
bobbified said:
I was sitting on the train on my way home a few minutes ago and found a registry key that LOOKs like it might have something to with this:
HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMessaging\Setting\SendRetryIntervalTemp
that's got a value of "5 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60"...
by looking at the value of the key, it looks like it retries 5 seconds after the first failed attempt... then 60 secs between each retry after that and perhaps gives up after the tenth fail?
The registry key is in the "HTCMessaging" folder, which I think is the folder that to covers emails, mms and sms. So it really could apply to any of those three items.
Maybe someone with a bit more knowledge than myself can help shed some light?
btw.. I have not made any attempts to modify or test the above, so if you do, you're doing it at your own risk! Just looks like an interesting key..
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I am using the custom Energy ROM, and i have that exact same reg key, but my phone pops up a message IMMEDIATELY after i hit the send button if there is not enough signal, so either this key is for something else, for the ROM im using has been altered.
It would makes sense if this key was the correct one because when i was using a stock ROM a while ago it did wait for a while before popping the message up. Anyone know what setting has been changed between my Energy ROM and the old stock one? Im guessing its been turned off to save battery.
Thanks,
Max
Not the main reason for this post, but first I'd like to mention that I've noticed I'm unable to send long texts when i'm in 1x. I think this is an EB01 issue because I vaguely recall seeing a post about that. Am I correct on this?
Anyways, the main point of my post. I use delivery confirmations, and typically I'll send a text, lock my phone, and a few seconds later the screen will come back on, show the delivery in the notification bar, and then go off again a few seconds later. But sometimes, often enough to notice, I'd say several times a day, I'll lock my phone, and I own't get the delivery report. Then say, 5 minutes later, when I push the power button on the phone to wake it up, the delivery report immediatly pops up, and whatever the person may have texted me back will then pop up too. I'm receiving no notification of the delivery, OR the sms I receieve from the person, until I wake my phone up.
Is anyone else experiencing this? Is this an EB01 issue, or something with Sc?
You disabled retrive option in message settings....
jenisiz said:
You disabled retrive option in message settings....
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Huh? You mean Auto Retrieve for MMS? That's not even what the post is about. And if it were, I wrote that problem is intermittent, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't, so changing a setting "on" or "off" probably wouldn't be the solution. But yes, MMS auto retrieve is, and always has been, on.
Did you clear your user data and cache after you loaded SC?
Dewmgaze said:
Huh? You mean Auto Retrieve for MMS? That's not even what the post is about. And if it were, I wrote that problem is intermittent, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't, so changing a setting "on" or "off" probably wouldn't be the solution. But yes, MMS auto retrieve is, and always has been, on.
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Actually that is what this post was about...often when people switch to another sms app they switch that off. When that is switched off, you will not receive texts (regular and mms) until the phone is "awake". I'd attempt downloading another sms app and seeing if the results are the same.
Yes, I wiped data AND cache. And auto retrieve is on. The problem doesn't happen all the time, maybe like once ever couple hours I'll notice it.
Dewmgaze said:
Yes, I wiped data AND cache. And auto retrieve is on. The problem doesn't happen all the time, maybe like once ever couple hours I'll notice it.
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Dew, try go sms and see if it works any different. Only time I've seen this is when the settings I mentioned are turned off or when the phone loses all service in sleep mode.
jenisiz said:
Dew, try go sms and see if it works any different. Only time I've seen this is when the settings I mentioned are turned off or when the phone loses all service in sleep mode.
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Just did it again today. Sent a text to my gf, locked my phone. Never got the beep for the delivery, or her reply. Soon as I unlock it a few min later, both come through. Also, the text will have the current time on it, which does make it feel like the phone is losing service while sleeping. However, the speed at which the delivery and subsequent text alerts come through is near instant, < 1 second after the unlock screen appears, so it's as if the phone recieved them, but choose to act as if it hadn't.
As for trying another SMS app, that's not really a solution for me, I'm pretty happy with, and used to, the stock msging app.
Im not suggesting you keep it...i'm saying to see if it's a continuous problem. you don't even have to use the other app...u just want to see if it notifies.
I have the eb01 with 2.4 and I dont have that issue. Try reflashing 2.4
Sent from my eb01 super fast fascinate
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Im not suggesting you keep it...i'm saying to see if it's a continuous problem. you don't even have to use the other app...u just want to see if it notifies.
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Giving it a whirl, will report back tomorrow sometime.
If you want to run a logcat, I can tell you if I have the same issue. I'm trying to hunt down a solution and I'm going crazy, but I know exactly what it looks like.
Okay, so I'm still having the same issues with Go sms. The phone will be locked, and when I unlock it say, 5 to 10 minutes later, the delivery reports pop up, the stock sms and go sms notifications pop up, and the times on the texts will be the current time, as if they were just recieved.
I too am having this issue. Any solution yet?
Is everyone who is having this issue running SC ????
Reason I ask is cause I'm not, and haven't seen this problem, at all, ever.
mexiken said:
Is everyone who is having this issue running SC ????
Reason I ask is cause I'm not, and haven't seen this problem, at all, ever.
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I'm running sc 2.4 on a verizon modem using a custom sprint/cricket prl. No problems here. As stated before, I only received this problem when I accidentally toggled with the retrieve settings. I switched them back and have been using chomp happily.
mexiken said:
Is everyone who is having this issue running SC ????
Reason I ask is cause I'm not, and haven't seen this problem, at all, ever.
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I'm running SC 2.4 and I have only seen this issue once so far, that being this morning. I rebooted and haven't had it happen since. I haven't ever had this happen before using SC 2.4.