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Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?
Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!
I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.
I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????
I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.
I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???
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I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help
New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.
nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021
Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24
No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND
Hello all!
So I have a qtek 9100 and tried to flash with "ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship.exe", the installer started, the wizard was showing me the white screen and progress bar, sudently I get an eror message from pc, and guided to repair the erors. Meanwhile my phone gone off, and now it does not want to open, i tried hard reset, but seems nothing is bringing it back to life. I measured the battery and my voltmeter shows 3.8V, so i guess the battery is ok. I tried removing the battery and putting it back on but it doesn't turn on.If plug it in the wall charger, it doesn't lite up the charging led.
I'm kind of swetting...what can I do now?
try to take the battery off and wait in 10 minutes before you place it in.. try to on it after that.. that might help.. have heard it has helped many here in this forum.. either your bricked it or not.. 10 minutes will or might show..
Thanks for the quick answer, i'm waiting now to see if it works.
Any other tips are welcome.
no...no result...it still doesn't go on
Is there no way to Jtag one of these phones?
Sorry...what "Jtag" means?
Is there any chance that when i tried to flash my ROM to burn my battery?
Hello, a while back I posted a charging problem, which turned out to be the Mini-USB and Wall Charger was bent, and before that, the Mini USB outlet in the phone broke entirely. Well, another problem has arisen, as finally got a new charger yesterday, and worked perfectly. So, I shut it off, and left it to charge overnight. Now, the problem? All of a sudden, it refuses to boot. Held down the power button for 5 seconds, 20 seconds, and a full minute. Nothing. Any suggestions?
~Infinity
nothing AT ALL? or the screen turns on and gets stuck?
if nothing at all happens, try the battery jump start method
Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.
I suggest a hard reset......
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I suggest a hard reset......
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....................And how can I hard reset when it doesn't boot, and whenever it does, crashes during it?
Anyone that's here help?
I'm currently having the same problem with mine. Hard resetting didn't work for me but you may as well try it.
If you can get it to start booting for just a few seconds you can hard reset it without loading the operating system. As soon as you get it to turn on, hold down the Wifi and Voice command buttons (one's on the left, one on the right). After holding those down, press the soft reset button (the little button on the right that you can press with your stylus) very quickly and release it. If you hold the soft reset button too long, it will perform a regular soft reset and you'll have to start over, so do that quickly.
A black screen should come up and tell you to press your send button to hard reset your phone.
I have similar problem,It's turn on to the logo that's always shown when boot and then it show the logo till it discharged.I tried hard reset,but it's still the same,i post 2 topic's in this website and no one help me
i too am facing the same problem, i was able to start it a few times but it crashed after a few seconds each time. i m gonna charge it all night and see if it starts. right now all i m getting is the red led. i really hope someone finds a solution soon.
With me it was my battery that caused the problem. Try it with the battery of another wizard. Succes, Rietje
ok so i charged it for more than 12 hours and my wizadr still didnt start.
I then got a NEW BATTERY and my wizard turned on within the very moment i pressed the power button.
So any one who is facing a similar problem should try a new battery.
Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help
Infinity M said:
Well, after constant trying at starting the phone, I managed to have it boot after hours. What happened? During the boot,where it displays Windows Mobile 6, a line appeared, and the phone darkened, and then crashed.
What the hell.
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faced a similar problem a while back. i replaced the battery and the phone was back to normal
someoneee said:
Yea,this is a second time when i have this problem.I both A new battery,BUT IT STILL THE SAME!!!
First time when i both a new battery it was working fine,but now the battery won't help
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try a battery frm a friends phone. u ll be sure that the battery u r using works fine. if ur phone still doesnt work then u need to have it checked.
i have same problem,,and i use T-Mobile MDA Vario
is it just battery problem or not?and if the PDA inactive it can still charge or not?
and i usually use blackberry charger to charge my PDA,is it ok?and is there any possibility my PDA can't work again?i hope not
pls help me..
Well for starters, charging your phone overnight will probably damage the battery over time. It's only the newer phones and batteries that are able to withstand extended overcharging times without serious damage to the battery. With older phones including the K-JAM/MDA Vario, the battery is meant to be charged till its full, and no more. If you overcharge it, you run the risk of damaging your battery and possibly the phone too.
If a new battery hasn't fixed your problem, the problem lies in your phone's mainboard.
Try charging your phone from a USB port on a computer to see if anything happens.
My HD2 doesn't turn on, doesn't go into boot loader, and cant soft reset. Can I officially say i bricked my HD2? And i cant even get it replaced because the camera is somehow cracked, and that supposedly "voids" the warranty.
And Im quite sure you need a JTAG to fix it, correct?
if it was a 51 radio brick, then yea, JTAG is it.
actually, it wasnt a 51. radio brick. I installed the Eugenia Rom through CustomUU while my phone was connected, it installed fine, and then it wouldn't turn on?
wont turn on at all? nothing? black screen? no charge light?
check the battery pins.
Nope, nothing at all. And by checking the battery pins, what should i be looking at?
just to see theyre all in a nice neat line, two one two, none bent up/down. it happens a lot.
other than a 51 radio (or 2.04.50 and 2.05.50 radios), battery pins or a discharged battery are the only reason i can think that would cause complete dead phone.
hm, I think I'm on to something here. When i plug my phone into my computer, it installs a driver. I forgot what its called, but that's all it installs. I cant access the phones files, but i thought i would let you know, maybe it could help me in the long run.
qualcomm? yea, the radio bricks show up as a qualcomm device.
try leaving the battery out for a while, (half hour) then plug in usb (wall charger, not pc) and then put the battery back in. this will stop the phone trying to run on like it normally does when you apply power when the battery is in (thus draining even the dregs of power, possibly affecting the charge circuits ability to start charging, , not very common, but not unheard of either), and with a bit of luck the charge light will appear and all will be well.
gotta go, 3am
good luck.
Thank you so much man,I'll try... ill get back to you about it tomorrow.
Erggg, nope, it didnt work =( Thanks for your time, and thank you for trying to help.
how old is it?
is it warm on the back bottom part of the phone?
Put it in the fridge for 15mins, then try to boot up.
Also see if you can try and put your battery in some one elses HD2 or charge your battery in their phone.
Its pretty hard to kill your HD2.
(i just dropped my HD2 in for a service/repair as my motherboard/cpu was overheating.- had to flash stock rom and spl back though)
I got it two weeks ago Its not warm, but ill try it in the fridge...... and I just did that a couple hours ago, we switched battery's and still no luck.
Refrigerator did not work either =/
can u do a hard reset with the volume up buttons and the power key? reformating the device to default?
Pull out ur battery, press and hold the soft reset button, hile holding down the soft reste button place ur battery back in. While still holding down the soft reset button pres and hold the volume down + the on/off swith and see if it will boot. U might need a friend to help u with holding down al the buttons. It worked for me...
Read ALL the earlier replies. Mine seems "cracked": battery won't charge in phone, via USB cables (2 cables, 2 batteries - one new & fully charged, two USB power souurces, including a car's 12v DC source).
Did all the above hard & soft resets, etc. Nothing works. Phoned HTC AUSTRALIA - MUST send it hundreds of miles (or kms) away to the original Telstra dealer, since HTC does not allow any other type of warranty claim in Australia.
On the phone's pins that contact the battery - they are flexible: up, down, in & out. Being "in-line" does not mean they work.
Not sure why the hardware crashed. Have not upgrade ROM or Android. Won't recharge the battery in-phone with SIM, micro-SD in nor out of the phone.
Wanting for a separate external battery charger (only a few $$) from eBay. Might take the phone to a dealer, and see if they can get it to recharge the battery via the USB cable.
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Pull out ur battery, press and hold the soft reset button, hile holding down the soft reste button place ur battery back in. While still holding down the soft reset button pres and hold the volume down + the on/off swith and see if it will boot. U might need a friend to help u with holding down al the buttons. It worked for me...
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nope, didnt work
Hey
Usually I dont use caps in titles or "help" "urgent" etc but something has happpened to my Desire Z and now it just wont turn on.
Basically I left it charging with the green led on and when I went somewhere I noticed that the green led wasnt on but I supposed that it was actually blinking notifing me of some notification so I didnt even look. When I got to my destination, I went to turn it on and usual way a press of the power button. The screen didnt light up. I supposed it was some kernel panic or something so I simply took out the battery and put it back in and pressed the power button to turn on. This is when I started to worry: It didnt turn on. I again took it out and in and still nothing. Only at ONE point did it show the white HTC logo booting then it went black again and still nothing.
I came back home and plugged it into the charger, another fear: No LED at all. Im trying it with and without the battery and it seems like nothing. Seems dead.
Is there any other test I can do or something? Im worried about it....
Also, it is rooted so if I return it, I have the warranty problem of not serving rooted devices. And I cant unroot it since it wont turn on.
Please some help
Thanks!
After about 30 minutes without the batter inside, I reinstered it and it was plugged into the charger and orange LED went up I turned it on and it turned on
Relieved but....I do want to know the reason behind this just in case next time....My warranty expires May 5 so.....
On that last note, should I unroot it and return it just to get a refund? Scared something like this may rehappen.
By default, on a nightly, it was on the interactive governor when it has always been on ondamand. After reading a description, Ive changed it to ondamand just in case...
No one answered cause this is really common and you would have found hundreds of these threads if you had searched.
Next time it happens:
Take the battery out
Wait 5mins (not 5 seconds)
put battery in
hold the power button for a few seconds
plug in the charger after the screen has light up (NOT BEFORE)!)
Phone will boot and be charging
If that doesn't work, try again but leave the battery out for 30mins.
If that doesn't work you need a new battery.
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No one answered cause this is really common and you would have found hundreds of these threads if you had searched.
Next time it happens:
Take the battery out
Wait 5mins (not 5 seconds)
put battery in
hold the power button for a few seconds
plug in the charger after the screen has light up (NOT BEFORE)!)
Phone will boot and be charging
If that doesn't work, try again but leave the battery out for 30mins.
If that doesn't work you need a new battery.
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Even though it is common, why does this happen?
The technical details behind it always help resolve a problem in the future.