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I have moved my market and browser cache to sd about 2 weeks ago and have not noticed any problems, yet reading here it seems to be causing problems for many others. Can anyone who is having those problems tell me what they are and how you get them? I want to make sure everything is running as smooth as it seems or put it back (ouch, id have to uninstall a lot of crap).
i moved all three caches (webview, market, and street) under jf modified rc 30, no issues. i flashed Dev Phone 1 and moved everything again. no issues.
i do not think the market cache has anything to do with uninstalling the apps. the cache, is just the display info before you install.
flashing - yes then you will have to reinstall the apps.
How do I move all market and browser cache to SD?
Moving all the market cache to SD also means that all installed applications will be installed on SD?
zrubi said:
How do I move all market and browser cache to SD?
Moving all the market cache to SD also means that all installed applications will be installed on SD?
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Last I checked, the Search button works
I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!
Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1
tlogank said:
I am in a frustrating battle trying to keep space free on my phone. I am to the point of deleting apps I really would not want to if I had the space available. So my question is, do any of the ROMS offer more app install space?
And FWIW, I have done apps2sd, cleared all the caches I can clear, and everything else people suggest to do. Thanks for any help!
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When you say you have done app2sd, so you mean stock Froyo or app2ext?
If you are having this issue with app2ext, then you need to make a larger ext part.
You can also move your Dalvik-Cache to /cache or /sdcard, but only if you have ext part for the /sdcard move to work.
You need to change the partition table (by flashing a custom HBOOT) to get more space on /data, and as far as I know, no-one has done it.
Use good old Apps2EXT aka Apps2SD+ aka DarkTremor's Apps2SD. Read the Wiki to find the link, or just go to Development section and look there. Partition your SD card, make 512MB or larger EXT data partition, and you're done for all the foreseeable future.
How could you avoid reading about it and read all the rest - escapes me.
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Not an answer to your question but out of curiosity what apps are you using on a daily basis? I find that my "core" apps that I need plus an extra app here and there all install usually leave me with about 30MB free space. of course at this point i'm not using a lot and I don't have many games installed(just monopoly). I'm using cyanogenmod 6.1
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Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...
I have 200MB in apps alone, not counting their data or Dalvik cache (together they come up to 380MB). It's not about having "core" apps and "rare" apps, it's about having the apps that I want to use. Some of them I use often, some of them I use rarely, but I don't have apps that I never use.
I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.
Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.
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I am in a Similar situation, using DarkTremors Apps2sd. I havent done cache2sd because i am using a class 2 sd card, and have been advised against it.
I set up a 512mb partition, and have moved all my apps away from apps2fat, but max free space i get is about 32mb, after clearing the cache of both my browsers.
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I'm in the same boat...
I have about 32m free with Darktremors, which is actually less than if I move apps to SD using Titanium.
Might try moving dalkiv.
How do I check the size?
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efrant said:
Here are the top-10 space-hogging apps I have (and some of them are partially moved to /sdcard!):
Google Maps: 10.13 MB
Rock Player: 8.80 MB
SlingPlayer Mobile: 8.64 MB
Facebook: 7.40 MB
Adobe Flash Player: 7.09 MB
Twitter: 5.08 MB
Google Voice Search: 4.44 MB
Google Voice: 3.78 MB
Skyfire: 3.34 MB
Google Goggles: 2.60 MB
That's 61.3 MB in 10 apps alone...
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One way to get a bit of space back is to move the updated ROM apps to the /system/app partition, replacing the older versions and deleting the new versions out of /data/app. I've done that with Maps, Voice, Goggles, and YouTube. You should be able to do it with Twitter and Facebook as well--I don't use them and so just removed them from the ROM altogether. You can find details on doing this via a Google search, though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.
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though I could post my procedure in this thread if anyone's interested.
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Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.
Jack_R1 said:
Check the size of your Dalvik cache, and do Dalvik2cache if it's under 80MB.
I have Class2 16GB SD card and I ran out of space on /cache, so I moved Dalvik to SD and didn't notice any performance hits.
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Be VERY careful when moving your Dalvik-Cache to /cache. It's only 90MB and not used if you are running a custom ROM. The /cache partition is only there to stage OTA's from Google. If you are running custom recovery, it won't be used.
Anyway, I would HIGHLY suggest you get yourself a Class 6 Card or better and move it to SD. It will free up a TON more space and stretch out your love of your N1.
I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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I'm running CM, and it looks like the cache also stages apps downloaded from the market...
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Well that's stupid.
Oh well, guess /cache is not a very good idea after all.
Just what it looks like. I downloaded 4 apps today, and cache has 4 download.apk type files with today's date...
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Yeah....I had space issues until I moved Dalvik to SD, freed over 80mb space. But if I remember right, I had some issues when doing this and had to wipe and do a fresh install, move dalvik and apps, then restore. Or maybe that was when I tried dalvik to cache.....which would explain why it was bad.
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Sound's cool...do post your steps & what filemanager your using.
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I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.
Yeah, why the hell do you have so much of that those apps in /data/apps when you could just put them in /system/apps which is a different storage.
I could put Facebook there too but i only install about 7-10apps on my phone. Angry Birds being the biggest but that's on the SD card (Froyo A2SD). After all my apps i probably have 170MB free in the DATA. Granted i'm not installing 60apps like some people here but i'm sure if you put Facebook and Google Maps in the system (along with twitter and all that other stuff that come included in the GAPPS zip file) then you'd have more free space. After a clean install i usually have 196MB free to start from.
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I've been doing it with an Orange San Francisco this morning, it's easy, just use busybox to cp the .apk files from /data/app to /system/app, the ones in /data/app were automatically removed by the OS.
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So you're not doing anything fancy, just copy the apk's? They are named exactly the same, etc?
I'm going to try this too.. Gonna visit the ole nandroid first though.
derp, wait, this doesn't even matter if you're using Apps2Ext right? Not going to save any space in /data in that case.
BTW, this isn't exactly pretty, but I was having some serious /data space issues since installing Dungeon Hunter.. 6.5m library in /data/data/*gameloft*/lib, so I mkdir /system/sd/gameloft and moved/symlinked the lib. Works great. I have a few other libs in /data/data that I could do, but for now this gets me back to 25M free.
Still fighting moving dalvik to SD but I imagine I'll be doing that eventually.
Search is not working on either IE or FF for me right now, so I'm starting a new thread. Sorry about it, as i'm sure this is a duplicate question. Know that I tried for awhile to search first.
I've got an Aria running Attn1's Liberated FR008 ROM. a2sd has been enabled. However, I've got almost no phone memory left. I've heard that even with a2sd, some of the app dalvik stuff is stored on the entirely insufficient internal phone storage, and I have recently downloaded a bunch more apps. I have used CacheCleaner NG, which did not alleviate the problem. I have also "cleaned up" the Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup, which found nothing to clean.
I'm wondering if there's some sort of area on the internal phone memory I can clean myself using Astro or something, because it seems that with most of the bulk of app storage being on the SD card, and every app with options to store cache on the SD card doing so, I should have more room on the internal storage.
What do you guys think? Have any of you run into this problem and resolved it without just uninstalling a bunch of apps?
Great question. I've considered a complete clean install, just to regain some internal space.
I wish ****ing Facebook would add an option to cache to SD card - it's a total hog. Going to endure with the Aria until fall and see what's out on AT&T at that point.
I know app2sd from the market has worked for me in the past. I had a ton of apps on my aria and haven't had a space issue
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The solution for me was to move the Dalvik cache to the SD card.
DISCLAIMER: Some people report this causes problems, I guess. The information I'm providing explain what worked for me. Following my instructions might cause instability, brick your phone, destroy your house, or eat your second cousin. None of these things are my fault.
I guess when a2sd is installed, it does not by default move the Dalvik cache, which contains files needed for apps to run. The more apps you install, the more that gets installed in this Dalvik cache. Here's how to move the dalvik cache on your phone to the a2sd partition, assuming you've perused the above warnings.
Open Terminal Emulator.
type su and hit enter.
type a2sd cachesdreset and hit enter.
The phone will restart, and it will take a long time, because it's got to rebuild the dalvik cache. You can do it without wiping the dalvik cache by using the cachesd command instead of cachesdreset, but I've read that wiping the dalvik cache doesn't hurt, and can potentially solve some issues? YMMV. My phone took awhile to start up.
Once the phone starts up, you can open something like Titanium Backup, and you should notice that your phone has MUCH more internal memory available. My phone now has 89MB of internal memory available, out of the total 194MB.
Things seem to run a bit slower upon startup than they used to, but after a bit, everything smooths out. And I can install apps again, etc.
Hope this helps.
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What do you guys think? Have any of you run into this problem and resolved it without just uninstalling a bunch of apps?
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I think that I ran into this very recently. The following thread has some good info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770146 ... more specifically ... this page that is linked from that thread.
Ok I had memory issues when I went from the Backflip to the Flipside. But thankfully links2sd made a huge difference and i was able to get all the apps I wanted using that nifty little app. Now however after this update I can't even get half the apps I had on 2.1, and that is with using Links2sd. I've tried getting rid of ATT bloatware, moving some apps to systems apps, and clearing davlik cache using Titanium Backup but it only does so much. Anyone have any solutions to get more internal storage or a better way to get apps onto the SD card because this is making the update almost not worth it...and what's worse is that we cant even revert back to 2.1 without bricking the phone....sad day!
I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
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I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
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This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
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This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
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Yea that's how I moved it to system.
And I have about 20MB after moving a few apps and moving some to system....ugh this is frustrating
I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
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How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
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I have 2 or 3 apps installed (Facebook and whatnot) and I have roughly 32mb after clearing davick (or whatever it's called)
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I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
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Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
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Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
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Just basics
Adfree
Adobe flash
Adobe reader
Adwlauncher
Fruit ninja
Pandora
Jorte
Jw reader
Lik2sd
Maps
Market
Palmary weatherb pro
Pure messenger widget
Quick boot
Titanium backup
I also added opera, and that brought it down to 50megs
Tadaaaaaa.....
Hey, I just posted the SBF in the Flipside Android Development part of the forum and I flashed that and it appears that this version of 2.2.2 runs better with links2sd and has significantly made a difference in freeing up memory. I'm gonna play around with it some more but it appears to have links2sd running as well as it did when I had 2.1. Some of you may want to consider backing up and reflashing the update. Just something to consider. I'll post an update again soon after I play around with it a bit.
Do you know how much space was available on /data when you fresh flashed it?
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So, I ended up breaking something, as usual, and had to reflash, so I used the fresh 2.2 sbf. Turns out there's roughly 74mb free on /data when you first flash, although that quickly drops as the system apps (maps, market, and flash offhand) are brought up to date.
You're right!!!
My wife's phone is down to 55 megs!!!
Sorry, I meant to post again after my last post but my phone kept freezing on the red Moto screen everytime I flashed the update and I took my phone back to AT&T 3 times this past weekend only to find out it was my SD card causing the problems. Just FYI if you partition your SD card to use link2sd make sure your second partition is set as primary otherwise the 2.2 Froyo update will completely shutdown as soon as you put your card in and will not let you do ANYTHING!
That being said, you definitely have better memory after flashing the SBF as opposed to the other methods i've tried for the update. I was able to install almost all the apps and games I had previously (some I didn't add just cuz I hadn't been using em). Everything runs smoother for me and I havent had any freezing or anything. Hope this update is running well for you guys
I'm reluctant to move many things over to system apps, personally... Don't forget that link2sd won't link the dalvik-cache of system apps, so you'd actually have more free space in /data by leaving it as a user app and just linking app/dalvik/lib. I'm at roughly 95mb free currently, with a pretty reasonable amount of stuff installed, so I'm much happier now.
Another space-saving trick I've found: Titanium Backup has a folder in /data that it uses as a temp file storage, any time you restore a backup it moves the .apk over there then installs it. It's located at /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files, and also contains busybox, sqlite3, and your license file. If you're restoring a backup of a large app, this means you need a pretty large amount of space free to do so, which can be difficult on our phones. You can move this folder over to the second sd card partition that link2sd uses and symlink it without problems. Here's a (probably ugly) method:
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cd /data/sdext2
mkdir tbfiles
cp /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/* ./tbfiles
rm -Rf /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
ln -s /data/sdext2/tbfiles /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
Actually....
If you have auto-link on... and move it to system with tibu... it will link the cache...
Why are you linking lib files... when you reboot... they go back to internal... you'll have memory issues at reboot that way...
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The file I manually link isn't a lib, or at least it doesn't get linked by Link2SD when you link TitaniumBackup's libs. The link stays through a reboot and hasn't caused me any issues so far, it just makes less free space required to restore backups.
As for linking libs in general, while they do tend to get unlinked on reboot, I have plenty of free space to let them exist in /data, and the newest Link2SD has a one-touch option to relink them all again to recover that space. It's not an issue unless you're linking libs and also filling your /data partition near the max.
Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?
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Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?
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The dalvik cache is probably taking up a lot of memory. Just wipe the dalvik cache and cache in recovery and you should get maybe 10 extra MB or so.
Smonic said:
The dalvik cache is probably taking up a lot of memory. Just wipe the dalvik cache and cache in recovery and you should get maybe 10 extra MB or so.
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By the original ROM's recovery I am only able to delete the Cache. So I did and didn't free any space .
The memory that was 100mb free, now is 88mb, without installing anything.
vitoi said:
By the original ROM's recovery I am only able to delete the Cache. So I did and didn't free any space .
The memory that was 100mb free, now is 88mb, without installing anything.
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Just flash Kyrillos' V10.2. It has app2sd right out of the box so no need for configuration or anything like that. It's simple and kyrillos' app2sd scripts are always fast and not buggy.
Smonic said:
Just flash Kyrillos' V10.2. It has app2sd right out of the box so no need for configuration or anything like that. It's simple and kyrillos' app2sd scripts are always fast and not buggy.
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Thanks for your help. I would like to use the original froyo ROM, I am tired of custom ROM's, they are giving me headache :O. So if you know a stable froyo rom, without this nasty problem of the internal memory, I'd be glad if you send me. Without bootloader preferentially.
Try link 2 sd
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vitoi said:
Thanks for your help. I would like to use the original froyo ROM, I am tired of custom ROM's, they are giving me headache :O. So if you know a stable froyo rom, without this nasty problem of the internal memory, I'd be glad if you send me. Without bootloader preferentially.
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well, my custom rom(Purumod) has 183 mb without any help of app2sd and others......(Not advertising, you can try it if you want)
J.Purungrit said:
well, my custom rom(Purumod) has 183 mb without any help of app2sd and others......(Not advertising, you can try it if you want)
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its actually a very good rom.
Ava.tar said:
its actually a very good rom.
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well thanks.....u tried it?
vitoi said:
Hey friends,,
I've lately facing a problem with my galaxy 3. Lately i've been using custom ROM's based on JPU and the internal memory is getting low too quickly. It's like the apps take the double of its real size, so i can't have even more than 15 apps that my internal memory is already gone...
To realize if it's the custom ROM or not, I've tried the original froyo version I5800XXJPU and have got the same problem. Initially the total free memory was 170mb, after the system updates (gmail, market, google search...) it decreased to 130mb, and after just installing the facebook and facebook messenger it's about to 100mb
I don't use Hybrid Data2sd, because i simply don't like it and had some problems with it last time. And yes, i move the apps to the sd card in the own system interface.
Am I doing something wrong? Someone knows how to solve it?
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check your internal and external memory for .exe file virus with esfile explorer
One simple thing - DEODEX
When you deodex the dalvik cache goes to /data for /system/app and ../framework also.. I am on ODEX and it's good enough.. PS - You need to odex manually or download a pure stock ROM or some odexed custom ROM..
IF THIS IS NOT THE PROBLEM PLEASE CONTACT ME or SOMEONE ELSE WHO CAN HELP
Cheers