HI!
I'm so badly dissappointed about my Qtek S200, that I rescued my JAM and sent the S200 back to it's shipping box.
I'm a bit surprised to see at this forum so "little" resentment with such a frustrating machine (at least to me), so I've decided to open a thread to resume the complains.
Just a few salt grains to begin with, please, add yours.....
1- S l o o o o w w w w ..... booting. It takes almost as much time as my fully loaded XP desktop.
2.- And slowwww overall processing. It may be related to some programs "optimized" for Xcale, but even the MS apps are slow.... and buggy.
3.- The killing bug: Notes inside contacts, ARE LIMITED IN SIZE, without notice, MS decides how much of your precious info can be.... discarded.
No info about this one in MS site. I synced with 2 PC´s, so I was able to recover my long notes in most contacts. This should be a NO-GO for all users.
4.- TomTom? Never mind, you will arrive to your destination while TT5 is still loading..... if ever.
5.- Scrolling down for Mr. Zun in a 3000 contact list? Again, don't hold your breath.
6.- BT Sync? Out of luck again, The S200 found most BT laptops "not to provide Active Sync services", where my JAm has no problem at all (Widcomm drives on the laptops......)
This and other messages have been written while my S200 made it last sync with my PC, 45 MINUTES! on a USB.2
7.- Did I mention that phone Caller ID pictures are ridiculous in size? Or that you can not access HISTORY calling via the D-pad as expected?.
Too may glitches for an expensive and promising machine. Better if my wife never find about how much did I "invest" in this thing.....
"Back-to-up-grading" to my old JAM, will miss the integrated WIFI, hello again Sandisk SDIO...!
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I have a qtek s200 and am quite happy with it, altought I overclocked it and did some reg tweaking, now it runs faster than two different peoples Jam's . I think most of your complaints are from WM5. not necissarily the s200. The OS is much slower (it seems than, wm 2003se)
no problems here with my jamin. syncs up fine bluetooth. dont see the need for the overly long contacts notes. pics caller id is fine size. slow? not at all. i dont find it slow. no slower then my hp2215
Can't comment on BT or long notes as I never need those, but as for speed, compared to some other device I got to use (not all of them phones and some with faster processors) it is definitely ok.
Yes WM5 is slow but if you upgrade to the latest AKU 2 ROM (I used the one on i-mate site as my device originally came as JAMIN) the speed improves. It shortened the boot up sequence as well.
Still my iPaq 1710 with the 200MHz processor runs a bit faster as it is WM2003. MS really blew it this time, but if you want the newer phones that are coming out, you just have to suffer.
My S200 has been great so far... However...
My only complain is:
It does take forever to boot! It even fail to boot altoghether (stalls) and on two occasions, only a HR fixed it!
Speedwise has been ok...
Impressive battery life!
Hello,
While some of the points listed by Looking Glass are acceptable, I still can't see the problem.
I mean: True! It takes ages to boot after a HR... but how many times in a day do you HR your devices ????
I have bought my Jamin one month ago, and after the very few days of experimenting and testing, I have NEVER hard reset it again.
As for the speed: again, it is slower than the Magician I owned before, but not that much!
I found out that divx playback without overclocking is almost impossible... would you really use your PDA for watching movies ? and if you did, would you really be happy with the battery life ? REALLY ?
Let's face it: Jamin is neither a multimedia nor a hi-spec device... is just a PDA with Phone extensions. And it does its job.
Sync with Outlook is perfect;
TomTom performs much better than the Symbian version (installed on my N70) and it takes 6 seconds on my device to start.
But you would never waste 6 seconds before starting your trip, would you?
Performance and Battery duration never walk together. That's the compromise that HTC guys had to deal with.
My 2 cents.
Well, I won't write a long post but I'm satisfied with my Prophet upgraded with a Dopod rom (and modified ext rom with my needs).
I'm used to overlock it at 240 too.
Tomtom work perfectly, and doesn't take so much to load (6 sec too I guess)... it work fine with TCPMP too in background. And only sometime the whole thing lag a bit to return to the music after a phone call (with tomtom still running), maybe it's WA2 and WAD which slow the PPC a bit on that point...
BT sync without any problem, my exchange server is well configured and everything works fine for me.
Well, that's a great phone for me :wink:
I think my M600 is much better than M500. The M500 (magician) was like a beta, which wouldn't do anything the way it should. The M600 (prophet) feels like, wow, a useable product. Yes, it has a few deficiencies, but it is by far better than the M500. No more resets, no need to always use the stylus, faster (with newest Dopod ROM), integrated wifi, working bluetooth activesync etc. etc.
I'm happy too but I must admit I miss the call history being activated by the dpad.
slvrbllt said:
Hello,
While some of the points listed by Looking Glass are acceptable, I still can't see the problem.
I mean: True! It takes ages to boot after a HR... but how many times in a day do you HR your devices ????
I have bought my Jamin one month ago, and after the very few days of experimenting and testing, I have NEVER hard reset it again.
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It takes ages to boot alright, but Hard Reset is much quicker than a simple SOFT RESET... That's where the problem is and Soft Resets are needed quite often. I soft reset at least twice a week or so... I heard from people that soft reset on a daily basis!!! What a nightmare!
On the other hand, I watch divx movies with TCPMP without overclocking and it works just great!... Of course it depends directly on how you encode your movies in the first place.
Best regards,
Rayan
tarponfly said:
I have a qtek s200 and am quite happy with it, altought I overclocked it and did some reg tweaking, now it runs faster than two different peoples Jam's . I think most of your complaints are from WM5. not necissarily the s200. The OS is much slower (it seems than, wm 2003se)
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I'm glad to see we all have points of view about the prophet.
As for one: Overclocking? Tweaking? I mean, W95 was clearly better than Win 3.o, W98 was over W95, and 2000 over all of them, then W XP sat the new standar.... but I'd never seen so much missing and downgraded when moving to a new OS/Hardware!
I overclocked my S200, some improuvment, but not really "shiny".
It may be about WM5, I partly agree, but there are OMAP machines running at higher clock setting out of the box. Why not use them?
And I also admit that moving from slower machines (HP namely) result in a much better perception of the Prophet performance. I used (actually I'm using again now) an i-mate JAM, and my S200 compares so badly overall....
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pen25 said:
no problems here with my jamin. syncs up fine bluetooth. dont see the need for the overly long contacts notes. pics caller id is fine size. slow? not at all. i dont find it slow. no slower then my hp2215
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No pun intended, but, You really manage to "identify" your caller by such a small "icon" picture? I really envy your eyesight!
I don't have a 2215 to compare, so you are indeed right about it, but the Prophet is supossed to be the current "top of the line" in its class (I have used a Universal too, they don't compare.....) and it don't fit my expectations. Maybe this is the point.... I expected too much...
Un paso atrás... ¡Ni para tomar impulso!. Fidel Castro.
A backwards step..., Not even to take impulse!
No politics here, just my feeling about some comments on "suffering" to get the most of a new machine. So, so....
:wink:
Rayan said:
slvrbllt said:
Hello,
While some of the points listed by Looking Glass are acceptable, I still can't see the problem.
I mean: True! It takes ages to boot after a HR... but how many times in a day do you HR your devices ????
I have bought my Jamin one month ago, and after the very few days of experimenting and testing, I have NEVER hard reset it again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It takes ages to boot alright, but Hard Reset is much quicker than a simple SOFT RESET... That's where the problem is and Soft Resets are needed quite often. I soft reset at least twice a week or so... I heard from people that soft reset on a daily basis!!! What a nightmare!
On the other hand, I watch divx movies with TCPMP without overclocking and it works just great!... Of course it depends directly on how you encode your movies in the first place.
Best regards,
Rayan
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I mean ages... just for a SR! and I have to do it several times a day.
I'm getting some cue from your post. Maybe the Spanish ROM is to blame somehow?
And for Rayan, my complain is not about A SINGLE PROBLEM, I can live with some of them, I SIMPLY can NOT stand with ALL OF THEM simultaneously. Maybe WM SP2 will fix it, maybe HTC will set higher clock speeds, maybe SW writers will code specifically for OMAP PDA's...maybe.
But in the meantime I will gladly set my "overclocked-twisted-S200" apart and be productive with my JAM.
Believe me, I love tweaking, I'm the biggest fan of Buzz Lightyear, but reliability is something I can not compromise.
:?
slvrbllt said:
Hello,
While some of the points listed by Looking Glass are acceptable, I still can't see the problem.
I mean: True! It takes ages to boot after a HR... but how many times in a day do you HR your devices ????
I have bought my Jamin one month ago, and after the very few days of experimenting and testing, I have NEVER hard reset it again.
As for the speed: again, it is slower than the Magician I owned before, but not that much!
I found out that divx playback without overclocking is almost impossible... would you really use your PDA for watching movies ? and if you did, would you really be happy with the battery life ? REALLY ?
Let's face it: Jamin is neither a multimedia nor a hi-spec device... is just a PDA with Phone extensions. And it does its job.
Sync with Outlook is perfect;
TomTom performs much better than the Symbian version (installed on my N70) and it takes 6 seconds on my device to start.
But you would never waste 6 seconds before starting your trip, would you?
Performance and Battery duration never walk together. That's the compromise that HTC guys had to deal with.
My 2 cents.
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About TT5 I'm talking MINUTES.... not seconds....unfortunatelly.
My point is maybe related to my personal use. lots of contacts, heavy phone/contacts/GPS use, no multimedia, no resident APPs....
The JAM fitted the spec quite well, while still not being perfect. My point is about the many open ends MS/HTC left in this machine.
I've used PDA's and phone/PDA combos for years, and never an "upgrade" turned me so angry.
Thanks for your 2 cents :wink:
End of the issue
If anyone has followed this thread, this is just to comment that I finally tracked down the problems: an inmature combination of ROM and chipset versions.
Spanish vendors come to market with a poor Qtek 2.09 ROM version on the G3 chipset. That leads to such a poor implementation that all the S200 speed problems are highlighted.
I passed my machine on to a "less demanding" friend, loosing some "hundred" bucks on the deal, just to get a month later another S200 from my phone company.
That time I got a G4 and 2.15 IPL/SPL ROM combo, that really makes the S200 a NEW machine to my eyes.
Really late, since the p3300 and the p3600 are already out there.
hi guys!
im a new user..from italy(sorry 4 my eng)
i bought from expansys mwg atom live and it arrived 2 days ago
i ve noticed some little problems,i ve to do soft reset sometimes because phone freezes etc but the more important problems are about the cell phone:i use vodafone it as operator:when im talking with someone almost everytime after 2o 3 min i didnt hear anything and i m costricted to close the calling and re-calling
today i ve noticed problems with sms : i didnt receive sms for a while (about 30-40 min) and after that i received about 20 and more sms
what about?
i would like to install a new rom (maybe i can resolve theseproblems?)
is installed windows mobile 6 ce os 5.2.1622 build 18128 0. 4.4
thank u!
nothing?
well you could install a new rom...ask in a thread with roms woch rom is best for you make sure YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING...and than flash away...make sure if it's a g3 or g4 device and never i mean NEVER flash a g3 rom on a g4 device....good luck and work safe
thank u xardas!
please can u explain better what is the difference betwen 4g and 3fg?
i ve downloaded this file http://rapidshare.com/files/111783777/PV_AL_OS_5.2.19701_V6.1.0.7_3G_by_Medkid.rar
PDAVIET ATOM LIFE WM 6.1 OS 5.2.19701 build 19701
vers "3g"
i think is ok for mwg atom life! or not????
well i don't know if it is good or not...i don't know the file you are trying to flash and i never had a phone like yours....let me take a look on the forums and i'll get back to you
i ve flashed the file and i ve noticed i ve not more all these problems!!
i ve found another problem:
when i use thhe phone and i m speaking with someone i hear a little noise/buzz from the speaker!
not the external speakers used to hear mp3 , but the little speaker of the normal phone...
hmm.. claim ur warranty
Hi,
I m pretty new the UMPC unlike other on this site, So I thought it good idea to get some help on 3 basic problems I encounter in my Shift X9501.
1. The bluetooth -no matter what it wont work, every time I try to turn it on from settings it gives me the same irritating error message " There is no Bluetooth hardware installed on this device. I will really appreciate any help regarding that.
2. The SnapView size on WM6 is smaller than the screen size and it really looks silly, if there is any way to have a full-screen SnapView will really appreciate help on that as well.
3. Attach/detach to vista -This is something really school boys basics but every time I attach to vista -hear the little tone and go back to vista open Mobile Device - it says not connected, cant install anything
As I said, I bought this thing a few days ago and havent got my hands around the features so if someone would like to help please explain in laymen terms
Sorry for you.
I paid 1400 euro for mine.
Could have had mine it for 250.
It is some of the biggest mistakes I made in my life
Did you read the manual or specs before buyin
Hi,
I m pretty new the UMPC unlike other on this site, So I thought it good idea to get some help on 3 basic problems I encounter in my Shift X9501.
1. The bluetooth -no matter what it wont work, every time I try to turn it on from settings it gives me the same irritating error message " There is no Bluetooth hardware installed on this device. I will really appreciate any help regarding that.
Read the manual, specs. Theré isn't any bluetooth hardware available to Windows mobile.
2. The SnapView size on WM6 is smaller than the screen size and it really looks silly, if there is any way to have a full-screen SnapView will really appreciate help on that as well.
Too bad to discover that after your purchase.
3. Attach/detach to vista -This is something really school boys basics but every time I attach to vista -hear the little tone and go back to vista open Mobile Device - it says not connected, cant install anything
Have some patience, it takes 20 seconds for WMDC to fire up...
Too bad your first posting had to be you being unhappy about the shift.
As I said, I bought this thing a few days ago and havent got my hands around the features so if someone would like to help please explain in laymen terms
So sorry that u r dissapointed with your shift ! But look at the bright side , i think if u bought it now it is quite cheap as compare to 1.1/2 years ago ( please don't compare to netbooks - they r different class altogether ) , it has very good touch screen plus speaker gsm phone calls now , xp works speedily in shift , u need extra batteries or back ups , it is not perfect but hey ! what gadget device is so called perfect in every way ? sometimes u have to sacrifice something and make do with the ones u have , being able to get free advice and roms & etc ... from xda is already in a very favourable position , whatever more u ask for further - u may get in sooner or later or none ! so please enjoy yr shift - cheers
is there any htc shift second to sell?
is there any htc shift second to sell?
Hi! I have my HTC p3600 for like 5 months. I never had problems with it. But now, since April, my HTC freezes alot. I thought its because im using too much programs at the same time, but i launched all I had and it didnt freeze. 3 hours later i was typing SMS and then it freezed. And when i tried to turn it on, it stopped on HTC logo, so i had to take battery out, wait like for 5 min, put it back in and then SOMETIMES it start normally. But now its just annoying, that when i want to aswer the call, it just freezes... I installed new ROM but its not helping. Instaled new radio, still not helping... Also i cant format my Micro SD card and i have strange files in it like file "e" that is 4 gb (my SD card has 2 gb storage) so its just weird. Sorry for my bad english and noob info, but im just new here, 1st post . Hope you can help me! Thanks!
Hi to all of u...
so here is the problem,recently my phone started to freeze for a few seconds (not responding the screen)and then everything was normal,but now i cant unlock,i.ve try diferent ROMs but the problem is still here,it runs on Android,before on Windows.the hard keys green,home,back and red i think work properly but i.m not sure,so please is the LCD,hard keys or digitizer or softwer problem how to know???if someone got the same problem please help me....i love this phone very much
so no one knows or have the same problem???please help...
lots of people have the same problem. The screens start to fail after a while.
Best test = reinstall the stock TMOUS rom, if the problem still occurs, your touch screen is dying.
Im with samsamuel. Its the time we live in where phones are made to only last 2 years. Where are the good old days where you could just buy a nokia 3310 and have a phone/bodyarmor.
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