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HTC Touch HD in the U.S. - bad experience

This is a long saga, but I hope it will prevent anybody else from losing $700 by buying a Touch HD in the U.S. from Expansys, or even dealing with HTC.
I bought my Touch HD from Expansys USA in April 2009 for full price ($700). I had previously bought two Advantages from them, the 7501 and then the 7510. I was looking for the Touch HD to provide much of the same capability as the 7510 in a smaller form factor.
The Touch HD worked fine, except for an occasional screen flicker. While looking at various Touch HD forums, I found a reference to the flicker issue and some HTC hotfixes and a ROM update that would fix it.
I went to the HTC website and saw the hotfixes and the ROM update and opted for the ROM update as it seemed to roll in a number of other hotfixes. I put in my serial number and it said that the ROM applied and then it let me download it. What a disaster!
As soon as I did the ROM update (and I have done ROM updates on many a phone and PDA), my screen colors went crazy. I finally figured out that turning the screen display off and on corrected the colorization problem. But then the HD would run for about 30 seconds and lock up to where only taking out the battery would let me restart it. It would, however, hotsync.
I called HTC USA and they recommended reinstalling the ROM update with a fresh download from the website. Did that twice. Same thing. I called back, and then they said that I would have to call HTC International as HTC USA did not support the Touch HD.
Called HTC International. The nice bloke in the U.K. researched the unit from the IMEI number and said that it was a French version with a UK ROM overlay, but that HTC USA would have to service it as it was sold in the U.S. He said that it sounded like it needed to be sent in under warranty to have the ROM reflashed.
Called back HTC USA. They finally gave me an RMA to send it in. I did. They got back to me the day after they received it and said:
(1) The INITIAL ROM on the device was unauthorized (on the phone they said ILLEGAL) and, therefore, the warranty was voided. They would not/could not tell me what the initial ROM was or what is the authorized ROM version. I would just have to take their word.
(2) That the motherboard AND LCD must be replaced! They could not say why, except that the unauthorized ROM caused it (?).
(3) The above would cost me $546 on a two month old smartphone, and then I would only have a 90-day warrant but only on the replaced items, nothing else.
Wow. I called Expansys. Somebody dutifully recorded it and said that they would send it to the warranty department and somebody would get back to me by e-mail. When? Don't know.
The Touch HD is a great device. But I fear that owning an HTC device in the U.S. is too great a gamble.
Beware.

LeeBv said:
This is a long saga, but I hope it will prevent anybody else from losing $700 by buying a Touch HD in the U.S. from Expansys, or even dealing with HTC.
I went to the HTC website and saw the hotfixes and the ROM update and opted for the ROM update as it seemed to roll in a number of other hotfixes. I put in my serial number and it said that the ROM applied and then it let me download it. What a disaster!
As soon as I did the ROM update (and I have done ROM updates on many a phone and PDA), my screen colors went crazy. I finally figured out that turning the screen display off and on corrected the colorization problem. But then the HD would run for about 30 seconds and lock up to where only taking out the battery would let me restart it. It would, however, hotsync.
The Touch HD is a great device. But I fear that owning an HTC device in the U.S. is too great a gamble.
Beware.
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sorry to hear of your troubles... if you buy from Expansys, yes, it's a gamble...personally, i don't trust where they get their phones and have heard similar stories to yours. that is, you buy a device only to find it was for one country and flashed with a different ROM.
for that reason, i used other - more reliable - sources for mine. i've had 2 HD's the UK version (without US 3G bands) and the Telstra version (with US 3G Bands) and have not had any issues with either.
if you reasearched this forum, i think you would have been able to resolve your issues. one thing you did, that you may not have been aware of, is to flash a ROM that wasn't compatible with the SPL on your device. this is why you got the "infamous green screen issue", which is easily correctable (check out the link in my sig). using a ROM with the incorrect SPL also causes other problems with the device. if you haven't returned or sold the phone, do a little research read the link in my sig, and you should be able correct your issues. hope my feedback helps you get your HD in order...

LeeBv said:
As soon as I did the ROM update (and I have done ROM updates on many a phone and PDA), my screen colors went crazy. I finally figured out that turning the screen display off and on corrected the colorization problem. But then the HD would run for about 30 seconds and lock up to where only taking out the battery would let me restart it. It would, however, hotsync.
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I'm probably wrong but the description seemed very similar to when I flashed a rom with the wrong version of spl...

Cortez:
Thanks for the reply. I'll go look at it...but I wasn't looking to flash an incorrect ROM on to the device, so I didn't do any research on it. I thought it was a manufacturer approved ROM update. I haven't delved into this forum as deep as I probably should have.
Do you think this thing is recoverable?

TC,
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I avoided Expansys at the end of the day and just went with Newegg.com instead (they sold it for 649.99 USD with free-shipping and no tax).
Cheers.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
Look at this thread LeeBv and maybe you could find an answer to your dilema.
Maybe you can recover your device.
I´m a proud owner of a HD.
Regards,

Wow dude, sorry to hear about your misfortune. I own an HD in the US, and I've never felt better. Then again, my last phone was a crappy razr from t-mobile. Also, I got my HD for free!

fedruiz:
Cortez sent me the link, too, and I've been reading it. Thanks.

freakonaleash:
Wow -- if I had realized that Newegg sold the HD I would have definitely bought it from them as I've had very good experiences with buying from them in the past. I didn't realize that Expansys was selling gray market stuff with no warranty. Of course, the HD in the box has a warranty certificate saying that it's a two-year guarantee -- but obviously that isn't true. I have bought gray market items in the past, but I knew that they were as they were listed as such.
Thanks

Im curious, did reflashing the SPL fix the problem?
From what I gather you had a custom ROM on the device in the first place, therefore you must have a hacked SPL or modified bootloader in-order to flash a custom ROM. Now if you read that thread listed above very carefully and follow the guide to the tee then I believe your problem will be solved.
good luck.

LeeBv said:
This is a long saga, but I hope it will prevent anybody else from losing $700 by buying a Touch HD in the U.S. from Expansys, or even dealing with HTC.
Beware.
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retract what I said

HOLY Sh%T!!
This is unbelievable.
Today I got my Touch HD back from the HTC USA repair center in Indianapolis. When I put the battery in and turned it on it was in the same sad state.
As a reminder, HTC USA said that the 1.56 ROM on it was ILLEGAL and completely voided my warranty. They wanted $586 to replace the motherboard and the screen to fix it, and then the only thing that would be under warranty would be the items replaced for 90 days.
Expansys offered to send the HD back to Expansys France where they got it from, but said it would take at least EIGHT WEEKS, and then they could not guarantee that it would be fixed.
So, I followed the recommendations on this forum and went through CrackWhore's process and replaced the SPL. The instructions were great.
When the HD rebooted, it was PERFECT! It recognized the new ROM, the screen was as beautiful as ever, and it runs faster!
I did a hard reset and then a full sync, and I'm back in business.
I couldn't have done it without you folks.
Cheers

HTC America in Huston TX or Indianapolis is close to a scam, I suggest to submit an official complain to www.bbb.org and sent a registred letter to HTC America in Bellvue WA. Here is what is going on in fact:
Week 42 to week 49 (SN 842 to 849) had a bad GSM chipset batch and was never done a public recall, they try to hide this problem hopeing the warranty will expire. The bug is visible ONLY in EDGE not in 3G so this is the reason the 3G in Europe will not nottice this problem easy, sooner or later ALL chipsets will fail, is a batch problem. I strongly advise who have this range of SN to disable 3G for few days and let only EDGE. Than observe on low E signal if can be initiated the call, in my case the call was initiated very hard. I spend hours and hours with them on the phone explaining I have side by side 2 HD's one with SN in 2k9 and another one with 843, after that I finally get an RMA they admitted and change MB, so the GSM chipset crap is true. After getting last Monday back from Indianapolis I notticed the back speaker is not working ( I could fix it myself than I said what if is chipset again!!!), I called them back and since then I spend over 8 hours in the last 9 days escalating my problem with different levels until today when I sumbit my complain to BBB and send a registred letter to HQ. After this they told me they will reimburse $20 dollars!!!! but still did not get the shipping label to send it back for 2nd repair. I am planning to open a lawaction suite agains HTC America due un-honest attitude with HD users, they all know what is the problem with HD and try to hide under the table, as I said before is close to a scam. Actually seems to be a more severe problem with Qualcomm chipsets not only for HD, time will see. Around the corner from some inside sources seems they are in big trouble with Qualcomm and they have "some" QA issues in manufacturing, trying to reduce costs, no wonder this is the recepie for going after GM ) LeeBv I wish I could help, if you need some info PM and we'll chat I am 4 weeks ahead you )
Guys
LeeBv said:
This is unbelievable.
Today I got my Touch HD back from the HTC USA repair center in Indianapolis. When I put the battery in and turned it on it was in the same sad state.
As a reminder, HTC USA said that the 1.56 ROM on it was ILLEGAL and completely voided my warranty. They wanted $586 to replace the motherboard and the screen to fix it, and then the only thing that would be under warranty would be the items replaced for 90 days.
Expansys offered to send the HD back to Expansys France where they got it from, but said it would take at least EIGHT WEEKS, and then they could not guarantee that it would be fixed.
So, I followed the recommendations on this forum and went through CrackWhore's process and replaced the SPL. The instructions were great.
When the HD rebooted, it was PERFECT! It recognized the new ROM, the screen was as beautiful as ever, and it runs faster!
I did a hard reset and then a full sync, and I'm back in business.
I couldn't have done it without you folks.
Cheers
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[Q] How many times will T-Mobile honor my warranty if...

...my MT4G was purchased from Craigslist? I know HTC will as long as it's still under warranty. The reason I ask is because once HTC takes in my device for repair or replacement, my warranty will only be good up to 60 or 90 days and they will only accept another exchange or repair if I run into the same problem.
The reason for wanting an exchange is because I can't transfer any files from my MT4G to my PC when I'm in Disk Mode. I've tried three different SD cards because I thought the one that came with this phone was defective but it's apparently the device itself.
To make matters worse, my buttons making noises and I have the inferior screen. The hardware imperfections do not really bother me as much as not being able to transfer files in Disk Mode since my MacBook doesn't have an SD card slot.
By the way, I'm new to the MT4G forums. My previous smartphone was an HD2.

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T-Mo will not help you AFAIK. It will be "return it to the point of sale". I had to pull some teeth to get customer service on the phone to let me swap my wife's phone when the retail T-Mo store we bought it at refused to because we did not have the cardboard sleeve for the box it came in (and they would not just swap handset bodies). Lucky for me, retentions department came through for me and felt it was pretty lame of the store to treat us how they did.

VERY Impressed with HTC USA!

2 weeks ago to the day, I accidentally dropped my HD2. Nothing major.. I was actually sitting down when it happened, and the phone bumped my ankle then gently bumped the floor.. no big deal right? (It has a hard shell protector). Well, then as the phone flipped over, it bumped the edge of a table leg and damn! Four hairline cracks on the digitizer. And no more functionality though the LCD was fine and the phone was working but locked with no way to unlock it.
So, I weigh out the cost of repair vs. replacing it all together. Ultimately, it was cheaper to repair the screen.
Here is what blew my mind! Keep in mind that I am in Canada, I purchased the phone (T-Mobile Branded) on the 'net, it's unlocked, tweaked, and therefore there is no warranty.
So, on 04/01/2011, I contact HTC USA. To my surprise I actually get an American on the phone not some call center in a third world country. Wow! The person totally has their act together and in less than 10 minutes, I have a quote for the repair. Wow again! The rep explained everything in detail along with the mandatory disclaimers and while they were finishing up that, I'm receiving an email with all the necessary details and an RMA and Case number and shipping instructions. Wow yet again!
04/02/2011, I send the phone to the repair center in Texas. By 04/05/2011 at 10:50pm the phone has arrived at the repair center. The next morning, I get a call from HTC confirming the damage (which I knew), and they simply want a yes or no to go ahead with the repairs or not. By the afternoon, I have a FedEx tracking number, the phone is fixed and it's on its way back to me in Canada. Wow one more time!
04/11/2011 FedEx is at my door with my phone and HTC picked up the return shipping. Well.. you guessed it! Wow!
I am reconfiguring the phone back to the way I had it prior to sending it as I write this. It had been hard reset to factory spec which if fine and to be expected since they likely run various diag after repair.
So, for $120.00 + $25.00 Shipping, my phone is working again!
There's a case study for keeping our companies and their support centers on North American soil. There are dozens of companies I could list that should be taking notes. 8)

Nice to see a positive post like this. glad you got you HD2 repaired and are now back to modding it.

The whole repair process was nine days including weekends which I think is darn good!
That said, I was without the phone/device for 2 weeks. Talk about withdrawals! LOL!
Amazing how reliant we become on these devices. I use it to manage my daily activities for 3 businesses, 1 job, and my personal life/activities. I was on the verge of anxiety at times! Hehehehe!
At least I had my trusty HTC 8125 as backup and while it cannot connect to my cellular provider's network for phone/text/data, at least I had my calendars, tasks, notes, and contacts but I'll tell ya, talk about feeling tethered to a land line and out of the loop.
Yep, it just got HardSPL 4, my preferred radio flash, BsB, Total Commander, and a few other goodies back on and is now syncing with my Desktop and Exchange. d'-'
T-Macgnolia said:
Nice to see a positive post like this. glad you got you HD2 repaired and are now back to modding it.
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It was not a bad price if it was a year ago, but I just picked up another near mint condition one for $150 with everything included off criaglist.
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android

Yeah, fair enough however, in Canada, the phone is not even available therefore my options were a bit more limited to purchase a new phone through a system where there is a little more security in knowing that if it turns out to be a bad deal, the purchase it covered. i.e. Buyer Protection from eBay or anything like that.
It's not like you can hop on a local Craigslist up here and find them readily.
So, the replacement cost for a whole phone was much higher, and the repair was the way to go.
coldest~~~ said:
It was not a bad price if it was a year ago, but I just picked up another near mint condition one for $150 with everything included off criaglist.
Sent from HTC HD2 with Android
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You're a lucky guy.
I've had less good experiences in the Benelux here.
I called in mine for a screen and gps issue that is warranty issue since I run the official image on this HD2.
They didn't pickup the device twice as promised which drove me up the wall since I had my colleague involved and had to change several appointments with my clients for.
After I complained I got called by a customer care guy and was promised my device would be fixed one week after the pickup.
Called them this afternoon since we are one week further and my device was waiting for 2 parts but they didn't know which.
I wonder how many parts can break in the HD2 that direct to the fault. Guessing the main board and an LCD screen?
Well according to the customer service I will have to wait for the parts to come in.
I am so disappointed in the service and hole customer care after having a touch, touch pro, touch hd etc.
The touch pro which costed me over 500 Euro ended up in the trash after 3 failed repairs and numerous errors which where caused by the repair center. Sending it back to another address and name was only the tip of the iceberg.
Looking around for a dedicated Android device the LG optimus 2x looks good since it has a 24hour swap warranty.

Sorry to hear bro!
Heck, they even confirmed parts availability while on the initial call just prior to setting up the RMA. Maybe I just lucked out.
I work in the IT field and deal with all kinds of this stuff all the time and it has been years since I encountered this type of competence and efficiency. Don't know what else to say.
Have you checked out the Motorola Atrix?
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...d-Services/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN
This thing looks cool! Watched several segments on it during the CES show back in February. My only question or disappointment was in all the promo vids from the CES they were touting Android 3 Honeycomb however at the Motorola site its tech specs list Android 2.2.
Good luck in your search!
lukesan said:
You're a lucky guy.
I've had less good experiences in the Benelux here.
I called in mine for a screen and gps issue that is warranty issue since I run the official image on this HD2.
They didn't pickup the device twice as promised which drove me up the wall since I had my colleague involved and had to change several appointments with my clients for.
After I complained I got called by a customer care guy and was promised my device would be fixed one week after the pickup.
Called them this afternoon since we are one week further and my device was waiting for 2 parts but they didn't know which.
I wonder how many parts can break in the HD2 that direct to the fault. Guessing the main board and an LCD screen?
Well according to the customer service I will have to wait for the parts to come in.
I am so disappointed in the service and hole customer care after having a touch, touch pro, touch hd etc.
The touch pro which costed me over 500 Euro ended up in the trash after 3 failed repairs and numerous errors which where caused by the repair center. Sending it back to another address and name was only the tip of the iceberg.
Looking around for a dedicated Android device the LG optimus 2x looks good since it has a 24hour swap warranty.
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thx for the headsup JayG!
Well lets say that I do the same work as you and do escallations and process realignments. If I could have a go in this whole thing .....
The Motorola looks interesting but try to find one in Europe.

I very agree with your assessment of HTC. My story is one better. I had bought my phone (HTC ELFIN P3452 TOUCH) in India. It had some battery charging issues and when on a whim I finally contacted HTC US, the lady told me that the warranty on the phone had expired 5 days back. I politely requested her if there is something she could do. She came back a few minutes later and told me she will take the phone as under warranty, but she will have to get back to me after figuring out where I should be sending the phone for repair as they figured HTC touch is not serviced anymore. I did not get a call back for 10 days and then I called back and explained my situation again and the previous call to a totally different lady. She gave me an RMA and asked me to ship to their TX facility. I got the phone back with brand new board in a week. But then I noticed a crack in the body. Since now the phone was under a 90 day warranty, I called back and explained the situation. They gave another RMA and so I sent it back. another week later, I get the phone back and it was brand new everything including the LCD and the phone. New IMEI.
HTC is top notch. So my current phone is HD2 and backup phone is Touch.

[Q] Dead DZ and HTC Repair in the UK

This afternoon my DZ decided to die. I checked the phone and then 10 minutes later went to ring my wife and... nothing, phone wouldn't respond to the power button. I whipped out the battery and left it out for 2 minutes but still nothing.
I have since tried plugging in the charger and again nothing, not even the orange charging light. Tried leaving the battery out for 1/2 hour and removing the memory and sim cards and even plugging in the charger with the cards and battery removed, but still nothing.
looks like it's serious.
I have had the phone 11 months, I got it from a little shop (well booth really) that was branded as HTC in the local Westfield shopping centre. The little shop has now disappeared. The phone is sim unlocked and not tied to a carrier. When I dug out the receipt it is in the name of a company called Westcoast Mobile. They have a website (www.westcoast.co.uk) but they seem to be a rather diverse company but not one that sells phones to the public.
Consequently I was planning on calling HTC on Monday to see if I can get the phone sent off for repair. Does anyone know if I'm likely to have problems with HTC or will they be happy to help me?
In the mean time I have dug out my trusty HTC Typhoon which is currently synching my email and charging up. Old phone but it does the job and I love the size and shape of it.

HTC warranty is one yr. Should be ok. I bought mine used so I always fixed mine myself. But you bought yours new.
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My suggestion is this:
Try buying a new battery , maybe it will fix the problem
Also if the phone will be recovered , take care of this with buying a new silicon case or something like this. Today my DZ cashed by up to 2M and nothing problem , sceen perfect i got luck.
Also i add if you realy love the phone , and the repair cost is to much , buy one used on ebay like me. I have bought one for 220€ @ 170£ , with 23months of guaranty and it's perfect.
Good luck mate

The Westcoast in your link is a big computer reseller, almost certainly nothing to do with a guy with a mall booth selling mobiles
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

steviewevie said:
The Westcoast in your link is a big computer reseller, almost certainly nothing to do with a guy with a mall booth selling mobiles
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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I'm wondering whether they had some sort of tie in with HTC as the booth was completely branded as HTC anad they were selling sim free phones on any network.
I got a phone from them because:
1. They had the DZ and I could have for free by renewing my contract with O2.
2. The sales bloke could string a sentence together unlike the fool in the O2 shop.

trundlenut said:
This afternoon my DZ decided to die. I checked the phone and then 10 minutes later went to ring my wife and... nothing, phone wouldn't respond to the power button. I whipped out the battery and left it out for 2 minutes but still nothing.
I have since tried plugging in the charger and again nothing, not even the orange charging light. Tried leaving the battery out for 1/2 hour and removing the memory and sim cards and even plugging in the charger with the cards and battery removed, but still nothing.
looks like it's serious.
Consequently I was planning on calling HTC on Monday to see if I can get the phone sent off for repair. Does anyone know if I'm likely to have problems with HTC or will they be happy to help me?
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I'm a Brit too and I had a pretty similar issue just a few months back. The bizarre part is I wasn't even doing anything "risky".
Get in touch with HTC ASAP. They were really good to me.
I contacted them via their website (you'll need the serial number/IMEI). Very polite and helpful responses and offered courier pickup for mainland UK addresses.
Didn't take long at all for a repair, and I believe it was back with me in 2-3 days.
I can't speak for their phone support, other than that they called me to check if the phone was still working okay and asked if they could close the ticket. An unexpected touch, but appreciated.
Motorola barely lifted a finger for me when dealing with my MS2 issues... but that is another story.
Since you have the receipt, you should be fine. Again, just get in touch!
I warn you, it will most likely come back with gingerbread like mine did, but you can still downgrade and root (if you so choose) using the guides on here.

PhoenixTank said:
I'm a Brit too and I had a pretty similar issue just a few months back. The bizarre part is I wasn't even doing anything "risky".
Get in touch with HTC ASAP. They were really good to me.
I contacted them via their website (you'll need the serial number/IMEI). Very polite and helpful responses and offered courier pickup for mainland UK addresses.
Didn't take long at all for a repair, and I believe it was back with me in 2-3 days.
I can't speak for their phone support, other than that they called me to check if the phone was still working okay and asked if they could close the ticket. An unexpected touch, but appreciated.
Motorola barely lifted a finger for me when dealing with my MS2 issues... but that is another story.
Since you have the receipt, you should be fine. Again, just get in touch!
I warn you, it will most likely come back with gingerbread like mine did, but you can still downgrade and root (if you so choose) using the guides on here.
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Thanks for that, it gives me a bit more confidence. It's just annoying the phone was in my pocket in a sleeve for 15 minutes and it just died.

Well I rang them on Monday morning, at first they wanted to send me a new battery but I pointed out it didn't do anything without the battery when you plugged the charger in. The bloke had to check with his supervisor then came back and said "let's arrange to pick the phone up". I had to email them a copy of the receipt from when I bought the phone and that was that.
They emailed me a form and a label, I boxed up the phone and a courier picked it up Tuesday afternoon. Pretty straightforward really.
Just waiting to hear that they have the phone now.

Got the phone back this morning, so exactly 7 days from calling HTC to having a working phone again. I think that is pretty good service.
Seems like the problem was pretty terminal as the phone has returned with a new IMEI and according to the paperwork with the phone it has had the "PCBA" and "flash board" replaced.
The phone even came in a little box with "I'm back" printed on it.

Sounds great ! Was that all free, under warranty ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

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Sounds great ! Was that all free, under warranty ?
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All free, didn't cost me a penny.
The bloke I spoke to at HTC told me I had a two year warranty after he had spoken with his supervisor.

Is that two years from the purchese date or the repair date (as in did they extend the warrenty for you)

It will be 2 years from the purchase date. The paperwork with the phone when it comes back says something along the lines of you don't get any extra warranty after the repair date.
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Gamestop extended warranty scam

On July I've bought a TF300T on Gamestop... I've also bought the extended warranty...
Since few weeks ago I'm having some serious problems with the touchscreen, First it shows red areas where it is suposed to be black, some distortions, also shows some "ghost dots" like if someone was touching it even if no one is touching it, and most recently, sometimes with the tablet turned on the screen becomes completely dark or won't turn on at all.
Asus won't fix it since their warranty seal is broken and is unlocked (via asus unlock app but not rooted)...since here where I live Asus won't reach me a I took the device for repair since I need it for work...the guy told me that it's a factory problem... so no one can fix it but Asus...
The problem is that the seller at GameStop told me that the extended warranty would cover any changes on my device he said ANYTHING... etc... said that,,,
I went to the gameStop and they told me that their warranty will be valid only when Asus warranty expires,,, so I will have to keep the broken tablet for one year!!!!
Lessons learned:
1- NEVER BUY ON GAMESTOP AGAIN;
2- IF IN THERE'S NO OTHER GAME STORE ON THE PLANET... NEVER BUY THE EXTENDED WARRANTY
3- I WILL HAVE TO BUY AN IPAD.... SINCE A FRIEND HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE SCREEN RESPONSE AND APPLE GAVE HIM A NEW ONE....

I actually just bought an Xbox tonight and they offered me the extended warranty on that. Their explanation was: "If anything goes wrong with the system, as long as the damage isn't your fault (like dropping it out a window or something), you can bring the system and your receipt into any Gamestop. You hand it to us, and we hand you a new system on the spot."
My guess is, those guys were just dicks. Try another store. Bring your receipt, bring your device, downplay any personal fault. All they need to know is, you bought the device from them with a warranty, and it don't work anymore. Try another store, be polite, and don't tell them anything that you did wrong, like bring it in the shower or spill duck sauce on it, and I bet you'll be walking out of that store with a new Transformer.
-Tim

Extended warranties...
First off, never buy an extended warranty. Those things are scams.
I have bought three and two of those three felt like ripoffs. I'll never know about the third because I never had to claim it.
Ages ago I bought an MP3 player at Best Buy (this was before the iPod had even been announced). I decided to buy the extended warranty because this was an MP3 player with a built-in hard drive, and at the time that seemed like a pretty exotic setup and I wasn't too sure how long they would last. Well, it wasn't 'till I got home and read the fine print that I discovered that I had been sold a "one time replacement" warranty. So if I device died the next day, Best Buy would replace it and that's it: no more warranty. Now needless to say, that's not what I thought I was buying. I thought I was buying two years of warranty coverage. (FWIW: that MP3 player was stolen, and I eventually replaced it with an iPod I and later an iPod V. Though I've replaced the battery a couple of times, my iPod V has been going strong for seven years on that same Toshiba hard drive).
The second extended warranty I bought was on a refurbished Sharp laptop. This was a warranty straight from Sharp. Well, when the laptop stopped working one day I sent it in for repair. Sharp refused to honor the warranty claiming that 1) the laptop had been dropped and 2) I should never have been sold an extended warranty on a refurbished laptop in the first place. Now, I'm pretty sure that the laptop was dropped by the previous owner because I know that I never dropped it, and everyone in my family denies having dropped it themselves (though I cannot be 100% sure, of course).
But I agree with the other poster above: try a couple more GameStops before you give up.

It depends who you deal with really. Employees at best buy are the same way.
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