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Hi all, i have developed this weird problem in my jasjar and i'm sure it's some settings that need to be changed somewhere and not the battery itself. When i first got the jasjar, it gave me a good 48 hours battery backup on standard use but i lost my charger and started using usb to charge it. it's since then that my jasjar drains the battery in less than 12 hours. i have tried replacing 3 batteries but to no better effect. I remember reading something about the Li ion polymer batteries having the memory effect or something and how to reset that in the bootloader mode. if you guys could help me figure it out and fix the problem, i'd appreciate it! here's the details of my rom.
R:1.13.00
G:42.47.p8
D 2.01.06 wwe
the rom is the wm6 from jwright.
(nb: i had the same problem with my shipped wm5 rom and i thought upgrading it would help but it didnt apparently).
How long do i need to use the battery to check the drain thingy. the reseller tells me to use it for 2 weeks before judging it. i'm screwed with having no battery life to this otherwise beauty of a device! if i could get any help, it would be much appreciated. thanks in advance. (josh).
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. no i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it workes.
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
awright...i'd try it. thanks for ur help.
mayer said:
Had the same problem, been happening all week, the phone would just switch of even though it registered over 80% charge. now i am happy again because i read on the forum that you need to totally discharge the battery occationally for it to get to a full charge, it appears that there is some sort of memory effect where the battery thinks it is nearly discharged, try it, i am sure you will find that it works.
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thanks..
I too has a similar problem but this method did not solved my prob as my jasjar switches off by itself at 40%.
I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago as a charge would last less than 24 hours when I used to be able to last 2-3 days.
Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike
Had my MDA PRO for 1.5 years, and never had this problem. Battery lasted for 2-4 days on average, although now I have a 3200mAH battery it lasts for well over a week on a single charge
Lithium ION and Lithium ION Polymer (the HTC Universal uses the latter) do not suffer from any "memory effect". The only battery type that does to any significant extent is Nickel Cadmium, which is rarely used these days.
It's also impossible (well, almost) to completely discharge Lithium ION Polymer batteries - internal circuitry in the battery shuts down the cells when the charge gets too low, at up to 10% charge. This is because a completely discharged L.I.P. battery becomes unstable, broken (unable to be recharged), and runs the risk of explosion or leaking in this state. So don't attempt to drain those batteries completely dry folks - it's dangerous! Letting them run down naturally in your Universal should be safe though because of the cut-out mentioned above.
Maybe the Uni just has a large batch of bad batteries? You should also check what apps you have running on it all the time, and how often you use bluetooth and wi-fi - these two REALLY drain the battery if you keep them on all the time... Also try MemMaid, this is great at cleaning up your notifications queue, which is where lots of apps leave old and obsolete entries clogging it up.
I have the same problem. I do not know where the charger is, so I am always using the USB while syncing. I also tried 2 batteries, but they both last about 12 - 14 hours. Maybe it is caused by WM6.
I did not quite get this solution:
"Soon sorted it when I found that the Jasjar had decided to disable the automatic switch off, now a charge is back to lasting 2-3 days.
Mike"
What is the solution?
2 421....:
sorry for lang. the above understands(i hope)
nastavenia(settings)/napajeni(power)/rozsireni(advanced) tam zaskrtnes co xces a nastavis casy. ak pouzivas phonealarm musis aj tam. pozri si aj podsvirtenie(backlight).
btw aj had the same prob. appeared after 6mnth. i bought new battery. btw here is several threads with same prob. try 2 look for solutions there(imho its only one-new batt.)
I feel like I'm walking on eggs...I bought my Jasjar used on eBay just over a year ago, still the original battery. I almost never use the 110v charger, always a USB conection with my Mac, often recharging at 55-75%. I just intentionally ran down my battery to 18% (got warnings to recharge), and recharge via USB/Mac again. It took me almost 4 days to get to 18%, and Bluetooth is constantly on for ready use with my earpiece.
Curious: are the problems with original or replacement batteries? Cheers,
Update to Radio 115 or 114
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
IMHO even if u charge with a full charged battery still u get a prob so i think its a common issue with the jasjar and its power managment software itself by default as lot of people with diffrent ROMs are complaining about it.
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well, folks, i tried all these gimmicks but not to any definite changes ... i guess i need to consult the service center guys at last...i didn't want to do that but i guess i need to. i'm sure it's not my battery as i've replaced 3 of them...i dont kno what else to do!!! thanks for ur posts tho as i get to try diff things to check if ma battery is doing ok...keep postin...thanks...
josh.
how 2 discharge a battery >>>>>
problem with battery?
I have the same problem, it firs appear on original battery when charge was 40-50% so I have bought the same battery model (1620mAh). But it doesn't help. Now I,m using the 3200mAh battery and it doesn't help as well. The thing is that XDA switch off it self always on deferent charge level (sometimes is on 20%, 45% ar 80%...so is very difficult predict when it happen again). And one more thing...when it switch-off and I try to switch-on back, I can't (keep switching off), only slolution is put on charger!!!
I have downloaded the service manual (I think called "confidential") and it mentioned that it could be a problem with main board (so its HW problem). So can anybody tell me is a problem with bat or MB? (replacing the MB is fcjfdj$#ing expansive). Thanx.
well if your XDA does not switch on until you start charging it that's a clear indication that your battery is empty. I have the same with my faulty battery. Replaced it by a working one and it's fixed. Something is definately messed up with the charging circuit or the batteries though. They are not supposed to die so easily.
SpyderTracks said:
It's worth taking into consideration that when flashing, you really need to have a full battery. There are reports of batteries starting this kind of behaviour after user has flashed with drained battery, then causes battery charge issues until next reflash.
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The first time I flashed the PDA I ruined my battery. This time I thought I'd be smart and I put in the old battery while flashing. After flashing I put back the new battery and now that one is broken too! It wasn't even in the PDA when I flashed it. How bizarre is that?
I have to admit I did not fully charge that new battery before flashing, but I figured it would be safe since it wasn;t in while flashing. The battery worked fine the day before I flashed my phone (got the "charge now or save your work" message), but after the flashing and putting it in, it just crashes at around 30% or 40%. The usual battery misery.
Maybe I should try fully charging it and then flashing again. Trouble would be how to get it fully charged though. I always felt charging cuts off early on the "broken" batteries (pull the charge plug and stick it back and it charges for a while again).
I managed to restore my battery to good health by completely discharging it in bootloader mode.
First I completely charged it. When the led went green I pulled the shcarge cable and connected it back again. After doing this a few times it doesn't stay orange so long and then I stopped and left the cable disconnected.
I reset the phone (on full battery) and then I set the unit to boatloader and waited for it to completely discharge. I reset the phone again (on empty battery) and low and behold my trusty "charge now or lose data" warning came back.
BTW I reset the PDA hoping maybe it would store the power levels. I remember that trick from my Palm days where sometimes you had to reset a PDA on full battery to calibrate it.
I charged it back to full capacity and started using the phone as normal. When the battery was empty I got no crash but a friendly warning telling me my battery was going low. Phew.
Will try the same with my other troubled battery over the weekend.
I have the same Issue.But , I think it's about Rom.
and I'm try a lot of ROM version ,only one Version canbe use more than 3 day.
I can't find any reason ,.
discharge in bootloader ,I do it ,But battiery is same time for used.
hi all,
after mucking about for a while, i figured out that xda would blank out due to the dyeing battery. i tried to go through the posts but it did my head in, all i do with my phone is go to wifi to sync my rss reader, emails etc and read the rss stuff and listen to music on my to and fro work.
i used to keep my phone in sync with my laptop for active sync but ithink that's what killed the battery so i dont do it anymore, just once before i am about to leave work.
can someone please give me simple tips/links where i can order one and get a battery and get on with my life.
i would really appreciated your help.
Dynapack original battery:
http://cgi.ebay.es/Battery-Charger-...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.es/Battery-for-O2-X...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
well by that price it probably doesn´t work anymore......
Try www.batteryupgrade.com i bought onde a month ago, it works very well
oscar73 said:
well by that price it probably doesn´t work anymore......
Try www.batteryupgrade.com i bought onde a month ago, it works very well
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Bought mine from www.mobilefun.co.uk
Might not be the cheapest but their batteries are new and from the original manufacturer.
Matt
Extended Battery for XDA
ukblokester said:
hi all,
after mucking about for a while, i figured out that xda would blank out due to the dyeing battery. i tried to go through the posts but it did my head in, all i do with my phone is go to wifi to sync my rss reader, emails etc and read the rss stuff and listen to music on my to and fro work.
i used to keep my phone in sync with my laptop for active sync but ithink that's what killed the battery so i dont do it anymore, just once before i am about to leave work.
can someone please give me simple tips/links where i can order one and get a battery and get on with my life.
i would really appreciated your help.
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Ok I will help you, this type of problem have been seen many times. But you will not find any type of problem in Extended Battery because I am using this from a long time and very much satisfied that’s why I am giving you the suggestion to use the Extended Battery for XDA and you will feel the quality and result. So you can eaisly buy it from the above link and your problem will be solved.
Better try this you may feel comfort and remember always give importance to quality rather than any other aspect of any thing.
Ok bye .
Have a nice day.
I bought one from eBay, like the ones linked above. All seemed great for a few days, but now it wont charge above 67%.
I left it overnight in the charger, the light showed green, but when I put it back in the M5000 it shows 67%. I've had that sat in the cradle for a little while now and the battery has actually gone down to 56% now, even though it says its charging.
Strange thing is, it seems to hold charge no problem. I just went away for two days and it lasted fine...
oscar73 said:
well by that price it probably doesn´t work anymore......
Try www.batteryupgrade.com i bought onde a month ago, it works very well
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I bought a battery with shipper in
http://cgi.ebay.es/Battery-Charger-...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
three months ago and continues working perfectly. It is identical to the original one (the same mark and model)
Weird Extended Battery
I just bought a 3200mah extended battery. When charging on the original charger it charges very quickly to 100%, but also dies within an hour going from 100% to 4%. I charge it on a different charger at work and it seems to charge much more slowly and once charged to 100% seems to run down at a normal pace. I don't know how long it lasts though as it's late afternoon by the time it's fully charged and by the time I plug it in at night it's still over 80%. Is this a problem with the battery or the charger?
I was wondering... What kind of symptoms do you get when your battery is starting to die? I'm getting some crazy battery drain problems. First I've got a good 50% charge. I make a 10 min call and the phone restarts with the battery at 0%. No warnings or anything. I've got a couple new batteries coming by mail. I was just wondering if maybe I have some other problem with my phone. Thanks in advance.
Hi!
got a similar problem.. I don't know if it is a battery problem or a SW problem. Please, let me know if a new battery solved yours.
thanks
Lukas
Hi, just check my post at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2508856&postcount=5
You can download and use PowerDetect from there. charge your battery to 100% and run the program. It will give the % of battery and the voltage. it logs the results to a text document. While running, your wizard will turn off/restart. after that, charge again to see the test results. If you see the voltage is running low very quickly, then your battery will be dead.
just buy an new battery and you'll be fine
good luck!
battery would start fully charged at 100%
used it for maybe 10 min? and went down to probably 60%
a moment later it's down to 40%...
try to wrap up your stuff and the 20% warning comes on
that's the battery dying. i bought a new one off of amazon and now it tends to go down slowly. i can use it off and on the whole day and it ends up 50-60%, pretty close to how it was when it was new
chetmichaels said:
battery would start fully charged at 100%
used it for maybe 10 min? and went down to probably 60%
a moment later it's down to 40%...
try to wrap up your stuff and the 20% warning comes on
that's the battery dying. i bought a new one off of amazon and now it tends to go down slowly. i can use it off and on the whole day and it ends up 50-60%, pretty close to how it was when it was new
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I dry up mine pretty fast! but i am always using the mobile.. can't get enough of the 9100
i did a burnout test once. Light at max level, screen tap sounds, bluetooth and wifi on, and connected. IE and MSN, with multitasking between both. I can only say lol.
It was the battery. New battery new lease on life. Working great now. Now I have to do some USB repairs from having to charge so much...
Hello guys i havae some problem with my Blackstone i use it from 2.5 years and i never had problem like this so..
Now when i recharging my device always stay on same % for example even for 1 hour its show always 20% or 50% or anything depends when i put it on the charger..
After restart can show 100% full or anything.. so i found out that the indicator absolutly do not work so if i restart it and show me the real % for example 50% the device always will show 50% battery untill the battery is fully discharged..
And right now i dont know how much Batterry i have and when will need to recharge..
I don`t know but i think this is a battery problem? i use this battery from the begining i mean from more than 2.5 years and maybe is time to change it?! but this heppand when i drop my device once on the floor so do thee is posible by droping the device some senzor to be broken or this is not posible i mean its a battery problem and i will need to buy new one?! or give me some idea how to test this and fix it.
Now no matter that the indicator do not work i still can use my device 1-2 days with one charge even if always show 20% this mean that in the battery itself have power for 2 days conversation internet and etc.. but just do not shown right.
Do anyone of you had the same problem ? and how do you fix it?
Also im looking to buy battery from ebay and i found today this :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-TOUCH-HD-...ultDomain_3&hash=item4aa9446824#ht_3230wt_905
What you think about this battery ? or can someone who already bought battery from ebay point me to get some good one
I read in the Diamond forum that peoples expirience the same problem with the indicator and even after Hard Reset or flashing new ROM the problem is still there.. so if this is right then i dont have reason to Flash again my device if the problem will be still here.
Any Suggestions?
Thanks
I did some tests... so i fully discharge the battery and i saw that even when the battery was on 0% and always the Warning appear i was able to play with the the Device with Wi Fi ON and Games and Music around 45 minutes wow.. this mean that the battery somehow was not calibratet and when its shows 0% in her still have around 30 40 % so after fully discharge the battery till the device Turn OFF by itself then few times turn it ON till there is not enought power even the WinMo to Startup i put it while OFF on the Charger and i was able to recharg to 100% and the light become green this mean the senzor itself work maybe just the battery need calibration again.
Now will see do the indicator work corectly after few more recharges and will write here for peoples who have the same problems in the future
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hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn
raving_nanza said:
hi dude, i think you should simply buy a new battery, but preferably an official htc battery - rather than the unofficial gold one you have posted a link to on ebay.
if you do decide to buy a new battery then put the new battery into your blackstone and charge while device is turned off.
this should fix your problem
Rn
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Actually i think its not Battery die problem because i did some test and i see improvment my battery last at least 2-3 days with alot of usage wifi and etc so this is more than normal.. the problem was that the indicator do not work corectly and like i wrote above i discharge fully the battery till the device die and i saw that when my battery was on 0% i still play alot alot my device to swtich off this mean that befor when the indicator shows 0% its remain anorhter 30 40% power this heppand due to 2.5 years usage and i recharge the device when i have time not always when is fully without power and i think that this cause somehow a discalibration of the Li Ion so today when i did the trick i see improvments and now the indicator start to count ever single % so i think when i do this one or two more times the Battery will be calibratet and will show very corect how much Power i still have.
I think this way because if this battery was already died the device will not last 2-3 days with super usage.
Hey there i have a HTC Legend running cyanogenmod 7.0.2.The problem is that i can't charge my phone to 100% it usually charges to 65% and it drains very fast but i noticed that i stays on 3% for +- 8 hours with extensive use.I thought that my battery wasn't good anymore but yesterday i tried putting my battery in my friends htc legend and it showed 83% while it showed 13% on mine so i put the battery to charge on my friends phone till it charged to 100%(that means that the battery's still good)but when i reinserted the battery in my phone it showed 65% just like when i charge the battery in my phone.I thought that i could try calibrating my battery but the phone doesn't charge to 100%.I was running blay0's b0.8.4 rom before this cm7 rom and had the same issue.
Any suggestions how i can fix this.
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Hey there i have a HTC Legend running cyanogenmod 7.0.2.The problem is that i can't charge my phone to 100% it usually charges to 65% and it drains very fast but i noticed that i stays on 3% for +- 8 hours with extensive use.I thought that my battery wasn't good anymore but yesterday i tried putting my battery in my friends htc legend and it showed 83% while it showed 13% on mine so i put the battery to charge on my friends phone till it charged to 100%(that means that the battery's still good)but when i reinserted the battery in my phone it showed 65% just like when i charge the battery in my phone.I thought that i could try calibrating my battery but the phone doesn't charge to 100%.I was running blay0's b0.8.4 rom before this cm7 rom and had the same issue.
Any suggestions how i can fix this.
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turn off your phone, plug it all night long then restart in cwm recovery and do "wipe battery stats" ( or something like that in advanced)
restart and see
I have already tried that i have turned the phone off and left it to charge for two and a half days long without disconnecting the charger but the light still didn't turn green.This is really annoying cause the battery drains fast and when its less than 15% the orange light turns on which i don't like to see
I have the same problem with my Legend since I update from stock 2.1 to 2.2.Actualy because of this I root my Legend then i can calibrate it but nothink seams to help.After all night charging the led is still red and when i start it up it shows 75% and go down fast.(1 hour or so can bring it to 5% easily).After when i switch it off and take out battery for few second and put it back it come back to about 55%.actualy the same problem as you have.
I just live with it....i trayed every calibration method and app. and nothink helps.
On another forum one guy told me then it probably need to be recalibrated in factory because i dont have the right tools for it.
I dont think then HTC will do that for me specialy after i root it.
If you find solution please let as know.thanks
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I have the same problem with my Legend since I update from stock 2.1 to 2.2.Actualy because of this I root my Legend then i can calibrate it but nothink seams to help.After all night charging the led is still red and when i start it up it shows 75% and go down fast.(1 hour or so can bring it to 5% easily).After when i switch it off and take out battery for few second and put it back it come back to about 55%.actualy the same problem as you have.
I just live with it....i trayed every calibration method and app. and nothink helps.
On another forum one guy told me then it probably need to be recalibrated in factory because i dont have the right tools for it.
I dont think then HTC will do that for me specialy after i root it.
If you find solution please let as know.thanks
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Then unroot it, install your carrier's firmware just the way it came with on the phone, and send it back. I would imagine it be hard for them to tell that you've rooted it.
Or just before you do so, check if the battery's still messing around before you send it back.
I have two battery's and the problem is the same with both of them.If is true then they can not understand i will give a tray...i think then this is the first think they will look it at just to tell me f**k you..hahaha
I' ve the same problem with stock legend 2.2. How can we do?help!
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So this is what i tried i drained my battery completely till i had 1% of charge then i put it to charge while the phone was still on and it has been on charge for two days and i see that the phone has charged to 76% usually it would charge to 65% so maybe if i leave it for a couple of days on charge i could get a full 100% charge.So that is my last hope unless you guys find something else.
I will post back if it works for me
BTW couldn't it be a kernel problem??
All I know then the problem started when I update from 2.1 to 2.2 stock rom.so my theory is then when you flash new rom the process take some time and energy from battery and when the process is finish the system take current battery state as full which is not true because of used energy from flashing process.So maybe providing DC power with the same voltage as fully charged battery when flashing new rom may fix it.I maybe wrong but in theory it may work.what you think?
I have 2.2 since release date,and the problem is present since one month,after about 6 months 'hotspot mode' for home internet.i think is a battery problem (charge and navigate at same time for 2 hours for day)but this thread show that is a common problem!
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i'm having the same kind of trouble for the past 2 months. no matter what i've tried nothing happenned. i'm running custom 2.2 , without rooting or so and charging level stops at 71-75%. drops down relatively quickly until 15% and easily can stay with 3% for over than 5 hours.... htc suggested to run a factory reset,but even this didn't help. if someone finds a solution it would be ...LEGEND...
The phone is actualy charging the battery correctly,i find that out with the multimeter.I measure the battery voltage after all night charge and even then in the phone it shows 75% and voltage 3.950 with multimether i find out then voltage of the battery is 4.220.So thats mean then phone is charging correctly just the indicator(software)doez not interpret it it right.Still is anoying to look at red led after 1-2hours of use.
I have S-ON so maybe even if the calibration app.say after i tray to calibrating then batterystats.bin is deleted it maybe not true becouse of S-ON.
Do you guys with this problem have S-OFF or S-ON?
Maybe is not related to S-OFF or S-ON but who knows...
Maybe if we charge the battery till its full and testing it like pirate81 said with a multimeter and then flash a new rom maybe that could fix it has anyone tried this??
I start to think then XDA developers forum is useless...i post my problem hier to get help from people(xda developers)which I think then they actualy know somethink about android but It seams to me then XDAdevelpers actualy dont care..end i am sorry for that....dissapointed.I see then this forum works on basic.."help your self"...where are you XDAdevelopers...we come to your forum because we need help from you...
I know you doing it for free so i should be happy for what i get but i was waiting a little bit more of interest....sorry i am just dissapointed.
Anyone find a solution?
Would it help if we went back to android 2.1
I allready trayed that..save your time...no changes.
Can't we just use someone elses battery stats file someone who's battery does charge to 100%
I have same problem for 6 months already and yes, it started when I upgraded from 2.1 to 2.2 and it's only getting worse. It was 95% maximum, then 75% then 65% and now it's 45%.
Changing battery or firmware (custom or official), wiping stats, factory resets or calibrating batteries does not help.
Now it dawned on me that I still heve 2 weeks of warranty left and I think I'll try official service.
Please let as know when you will get it back...if they change just rom and calibrating or you will get new phone.I am interestig if it is software or hardware issue.thanks