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Hm now now, if it is coming from the president of the company it does not rub off too good on all of us who paid for the device!
http://www.wmexperts.com/where-sony-ericsson-went-wrong-and-how-xperia-x1-was-experiment
i dont think i am the only one, but somehow, i still love my xperia, to date, i still have not seen a mobile i would replace my x1 with
well it may be an experiment, but it turns out it's a very good one, so far I like the xperia more than any other phone, I went thru a lot of WM phones, and I think it is the best out there, it may not have all the features that some have (accelerometer, tv-out) it may not be the easiest to type, but overall is good, fast and very good looking.
Looking forward for the next-gen xperia.
its a quote taking out of proporstion. he probally said the x1 was a test of the wm market and the high end (very expensive phones). to see if it would sell to a level that they make a decent profit.
from what i have seen they have sold tons of x1's (for the type of phone it is) and have been happy with the product (crack problem aside).
so i think they will be strongly supporting the wm format and a x2 will be coming out and probally be alot better make and support at the start with some great software from SE (as they now have experiance with wm software, as shown in the beta r3 release).
I love my Xperia as well and i wouldn't change it for any other phone as no other phone has so many functions and looks good at the same time! (and no, HTC phones do not look half as good!)...
but for a company's CEO to come out and say that the device was an experiment for them is completely wrong. If companies want to experiment they can do it with prototypes, not get customers involved in the process.
If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
Of course is was an "EXPERIMENT" it was their first Windows Mobile Phone.
Doesnt De-Value it at all - as long as they keep supporting it
Xperimental much?
It's quite a success other than the casing and sometimes the signal problems.
Otherwise it's a killer in a small package.
yeah, X1 isn't a bad phone at all
Although I wish they give faster updates for the X1 & add more "SE/X1-features".
Something like an exclusivity
made me think of any of these 2 cartoon strips
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http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9706/df970626.jpg
PS: I LOVE my X1!!! It is definitely the best piece of technology that I've held in my hands so far. Just fell in LOVE with it at the first touch
And I'm so happy I took part in an experiment like this one. It turned out to be successful (being in here with so many talented developers and custom roms, yet having the excellent service of SonyEricsson). Thank you SE for this Xperi-ment.
Their next experiment will be the X2 on Android OS.
Motorola is also doing experiments on all platforms: S60 UIQ, WinMob, their own linux platform, Android (coming soon).
I see nothing wrong experimenting with platforms. Not, as long as they provide support for all models and platforms, and continue updating software on all platforms.
Love my X1 too ...you guys are right -easily the best bit of kit I own
As long as support and updates continue, all's well
Looking forward to the X2!
i love my X1 too and it is the best phone i ever had.. waiting for X2..
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If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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did nt like the design of the p range
It's just that it priced itself out of the game without bringing anything really groundbreaking
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i agree with that. but it doesnt make me love my X1 any less.
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ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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i loved the w960i but u were stuck with what u had (limited options to change the phone as it was on symbian uiq)
but the x1 is by far the best phone i have owned and i think its still the best phone u can buy now and as far as i have seen in the near future too (tp2 the closest but still not as good as the x1 in design and near the same in spec).
im using the latest generic_uk mr2 i thought they already fix the issue but i still encountered it..
1. sms notification is very low! even if i set it to max volume
2. the SD card issue still present, sd card suddenly wont show on device until i'd hard reset it ..
hope SE give an action for this..
Just use the reg settings listed in this forum to fix this sd card issue. It is a simple 'don't go to sleep' thing!
I rather hope they would fix this crappy bluetooth issue with that "new" Qualcomm Bluetooth Chip. Cannot use Voice Command or BlueAudio. Nothing so far helped and made the bluetooth sound go to the mono headset unless its IN a call. That sucks!
Sony Ericsson will not release a new update for the X2. This device is discontinnued.
They are currently focusing on developing their android phone... zzzzzz.... really gonna switch now
WTH?
then why did they release this phone.. are they crazy? lol.. i never get back to SE phones again after i sell it..
No new updates for X2?! Ok, Im done with SE forever.
Its a shame realy. They were my favourite cellphone company since T68i. Thats even 3 years before I got myself my first SE phone(T610).
I was waiting for X1 for more then a year (anounced february 2008, my mobile operator got it on march 2009, I got it on april 2009).
X1 still is my favourite phone of all time. But X2 makes me kick samo ass.
I just cant belive they dared to make so crappy successor to sach an amazing phone as X1.
When my K700i got stolen I used a nokia 1600 for several months. and 1600 is a better phone then X2. You hear that SE!!!!!!!! Shure it doesnt have a camera it hasnt got a qwerty but with nokia 1600 I knew what i have will work as it should (plus the battery lasted around 12 days ).
X2 being advertised as successor to X1, second WM SE phone, high end business phone. Let me tell you something almost 2 years old X1 is a better phone then X2, X2 is the worst phone ever made, even philips fisio 820 (not a good phone) was a better and more stable phone and X2. If a bussines man would be satisfied with X2 he is no bussines, he is dumb ass individual who cant tell a phone from a pile of $h!t. There is one thing i havent seen better on any phone ever. its the calling program. Its as usefull as it can get. But what its all for if sometimes calles get dropped, sometimes the caller cant hear me or I cant hear him... If at east the calls were perfect...
God Damned they berried them selfs.
Its hard to se what SE has done. I was such a fan i feel bad abouth them making such a shamefull phone.
Burn in hell SE.
Just like what I imagine. No update till now. May be SE confuse how to upgrade more with this phone. hohohoh.... May be they have given the best shot to this phone. And last word is : "SORRY".
But from deep in my heart, I really disappointed with X2, I feel being cheated.
After I change to X10, many things is different. in many aspects, X10 is different.
My opinion, X10 is my phone. just meet my expecting.
considering to the: design, responsiveness, camera, connection, features, display, etc.
Nb: Friends, try consider X10. You will not disapoint.
and... don't ever try to look at ASPEN. The same **** like X2
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Sony Ericsson will not release a new update for the X2. This device is discontinnued.
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You said this device was discontinnued.
Where did you heard it?
MR3 is very neccessity.
I agree to all of you here. I've just sold my X2, back to use X1.
Because I like the X2 interface so I flashed my X1 with Customized ROM that is ported from X2. And one thing that make me sick that SE can't fix this ROM for X2 while that cooker guy can make a fix on X1. Doesn't SE have any expert in WinMo so the X2 ROM is just a big disaster? What pathetic story of X2.
Then I replaced my X2 to Aspen. OMG! It is cursed... SE with WinMo is really sucked. Never want to try WP7 with SE anymore, it should be another trash.
Sony nears buying out Ericsson from venture: report
(Reuters) - Sony Corp is nearing a deal to buy out Telefon AB LM Ericsson's stake in their 50:50 smartphone joint venture, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday citing people familiar with the matter.
The joint venture's two parent companies have regularly discussed the nature of Sony Ericsson's ownership structure, according to the report. It said the talks were ongoing and could break apart at anytime.
Ericsson and Sony declined to comment on the reported talks.
"We have a long-term commitment to our joint ventures," said an Ericsson spokesman.
Many analysts say Japan's Sony needs to assert control over Sony Ericsson if the venture is to recoup market share in the cut-throat world of smartphones.
Sony and Ericsson's joint venture, formed in 2001, thrived after its breakthrough with Walkman music phones and Cybershot cameraphones, both of which leveraged Sony's brands.
But it lost out to leaner rivals at the cheaper end of the market, and its share of total handset sales has dropped to below 3 percent from more than 9 percent at its peak.
"A buyout would make a lot of sense for Ericsson as I believe their share in the joint venture is worth to them between zero and minus 1 billion euros ($1.33 billion)," said Bernstein analyst Pierre Ferragu.
"Whatever price they agree on, it would be a positive for Ericsson," he said.
Shares in Sweden's Ericsson gained further on the report and closed 6 percent higher at 69.20 crowns on Thursday.
A full takeover of the venture would boost Sony's overall offering, which includes content, gaming devices, consumer electronics and even tablet computers, but is still missing its own smartphones.
"The buyout allows Sony to move development in-house and better integrate other products like gaming into newer phones," said Steven Nathasingh from U.S. technology research firm Vaxa Inc.
Last month at the IFA trade fair in Berlin Sony Ericsson's phones were presented inside the Sony hall, mixed with Sony's TV sets and new tablets.
(Reporting by Tarmo Virki, Yinka Adegoke, Anna Ringstrom, Sven Nordenstam and Liana Balinsky-Baker; Editing by Erica Billingham)
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Sony Is This Close to Paying $1 Billion for Full Control of Sony Ericsson
Sony Is This Close to Paying $1 Billion for Full Control of Sony Ericsson
Sony sure had itself a day the other day, and rumor has it the tech giant may soon have itself all of the Sony Ericsson joint venture as well.
This according to a rumor reported by industry gaming pub Gamasutra, which reports Sony is oh so close to a $1 billion takeover of the mobile phone partnership that it currently shares a 50/50 deal with devices like the Xperia Play. That device, if you'll recall, bears the PlayStation brand and was 100% marketed to the masses as a game-playing device that happened to make phone calls.
But where would the acquired Sony Ericsson assets go? Again, according to rumor, the bits and pieces would be folded into Sony's PC and gaming wing as part of a streamlining maneuver to save cash and improve operations.
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play owners or otherwise, does this sit well with you? [Gamasutra]
its good for both!!
through this deal Sony can compete better with Samsung/Apple..
If sony can keep the employees who designed the arc ill be happy either way. It's a win win for the consumer
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Well, I have mixed feelings about this. Before the merger, Sony was failing miserably in the mobile phone sector. Their phones were just not up to standard. On the other hand, Ericsson was doing pretty well. If I recall the last Ericsson phone was the T68m which was a hit (it was later renamed T68i after the merger). The joint venture, Sony Ericsson, struck gold between 2004-2007 with their Walkman and Cypershot phones. They were very, very late in offering a high end smartphone which came in the form of the X10 in March of 2010 with sub-par software but, great hardware. This was 3 years AFTER the iPhone hit the shelves!
So I am really not sure how Sony will fair if they drop the Ericsson in "Sony Ericsson"?
I think it won't affect so much Ericsson. Or I thinks they shoudn't. If they really buy, they should just add more features to the phones, but keeps the employees from Sony Ericsson. Just a name thing.
Will still be a loyal sony ericsson fan either way. My 1st SE was the t100. It had a blue screen. Lol.
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Hopefully they keep the name and the logo.
Looks much better if Sony Ericsson is on the device and not just Sony imo
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Hopefully they keep the name and the logo.
Looks much better if Sony Ericsson is on the device and not just Sony imo
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I agree. But, I do not think that they will keep it.
Do yo really think that sony-"we lock everything down and sue you if you unlock it" will continue down the path of helping devs and unlocked bootloaders that SonyEricsson just started walking upon?
I doubt it.
The name? Sony won't buy out Ericsson for anything less than a namechange. They won't pay billions just to keep label the product "SonyEricsson".
I think this is a good step for sony, but a very bad one for android.
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Well, I have mixed feelings about this. Before the merger, Sony was failing miserably in the mobile phone sector. Their phones were just not up to standard. On the other hand, Ericsson was doing pretty well. If I recall the last Ericsson phone was the T68m which was a hit (it was later renamed T68i after the merger). The joint venture, Sony Ericsson, struck gold between 2004-2007 with their Walkman and Cypershot phones. They were very, very late in offering a high end smartphone which came in the form of the X10 in March of 2010 with sub-par software but, great hardware. This was 3 years AFTER the iPhone hit the shelves!
So I am really not sure how Sony will fair if they drop the Ericsson in "Sony Ericsson"?
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Lol what the hell are you talking about.
SE offerred the first smartphone in 2002 or 2003 as P800 and than produced a range of top end smartphones until they lowered the bar with X2....
I doubt it will success, Sony always sells the brand name before the product.
HIGH PRICE=NORMAL SPECS.
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Lol what the hell are you talking about.
SE offerred the first smartphone in 2002 or 2003 as P800 and than produced a range of top end smartphones until they lowered the bar with X2....
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Yes but, these were not popular or game changers. What I meant was the second surge of smartphones which started with the iPhone in 2007 and then the Android devices.
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Yes but, these were not popular or game changers. What I meant was the second surge of smartphones which started with the iPhone in 2007 and then the Android devices.
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Well as for the iPhone it took LOOONG time for ANY company to respond and probably one of the first real success was HTC HD2. As for SE I don't agree, X1 was very impressive, just the legacy was not continued.
SE used to make great smartphones. The whole "P" series was somehow special (i owned p910i and p1i) and the p1i is still my all-time favourite SE. Then they released the first xperia which was a worth replacement for the p1i. It was even better than its main rival at that time the htc touch pro.
but then they decided to f**k it all up and released the x2.. and then the x10..
Now they seem to be on the right track though with the 2011 series.
i just hope that the takeover from Sony wont affect their future smartphones too much
I still have the P910a. That phone is a classic! Has a physical qwerty keyboard, jog dial and touchscreen. The best of all worlds! Also has one of the loudest speakers in the industry. The phone had horrific battery life though and SE's Symbian UI wasn't that good. I had the w600i. Did anyone ever own that phone? Remember the battery door flying out easily? LOL. SE quickly recalled the devices. Tried fixing it then discontinued it. I had the p990i. That was a disaster. Then I went on to own a number of walkman series devices. The best selling w810i which I still have. My fave was the w995a which died on me.
My fave cybershot phone is still the k790a, still have that too. I love the candybar style. I had the C905a. I went through a lot of SE devices. I have the Arc now. I was thinking about getting the X10a just in case the Sony Ericsson
name is no longer. What do you guys think? Am I crazy? Please go easy on your responses. LOL
Whatever happens, I hope Sony Ericsson makes a comeback.
Wirelessgirl said:
I still have the P910a. That phone is a classic! Has a physical qwerty keyboard, jog dial and touchscreen. The best of all worlds! Also has one of the loudest speakers in the industry. The phone had horrific battery life though and SE's Symbian UI wasn't that good. I had the w600i. Did anyone ever own that phone? Remember the battery door flying out easily? LOL. SE quickly recalled the devices. Tried fixing it then discontinued it. I had the p990i. That was a disaster. Then I went on to own a number of walkman series devices. The best selling w810i which I still have. My fave was the w995a which died on me.
My fave cybershot phone is still the k790a, still have that too. I love the candybar style. I had the C905a. I went through a lot of SE devices. I have the Arc now. I was thinking about getting the X10a just in case the Sony Ericsson
name is no longer. What do you guys think? Am I crazy? Please go easy on your responses. LOL
Whatever happens, I hope Sony Ericsson makes a comeback.
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So you're a fellow Ericsson and SE fan!
I owned the Ericsson GH388, T18, T20, T68m, the SE K750i, C902i, X10a and now I have the Arc!
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So you're a fellow Ericsson and SE fan!
I owned the Ericsson GH388, T18, T20, T68m, the SE K750i, C902i, X10a and now I have the Arc!
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I sure am! I only listed half of the SE phones I have owned. What model was the Ericsson that was a blue candybar and it was a POS? Sorry but it was. LOL
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I sure am! I only listed half of the SE phones I have owned. What model was the Ericsson that was a blue candybar and it was a POS? Sorry but it was. LOL
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Was it the K850i?
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Was it the K850i?
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No it wasn't the k850i. It's a much older phone. It was a TDMA phone. It was under Ericsson. It had battery and battery door issues.
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No it wasn't the k850i. It's a much older phone. It was a TDMA phone. It was under Ericsson. It had battery and battery door issues.
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It must be the R300!
So www.sonyericsson.com is gone and now it is http://www.sonymobile.com/ end of an era.
Hopefully we will see some benefits out of this merger, as consumers.
I agree, end of an era.
Bye Bye SE, we are gonna miss you
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Hopefully we will see some benefits out of this merger, as consumers.
I agree, end of an era.
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Merger? Have I missed something?
LenAsh said:
Merger? Have I missed something?
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yes......................the takeover by Sony of SonyEricsson.
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So can we call our mobiles now SONY Xperia Arc
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So can we call our mobiles now SONY Xperia Arc
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nope they're still SE
Thank god ericsson gone
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It's been 10 years I'm faithful with Sony Ericsson for the reliable and the highly-configurable phones they released. (Got a T300, a V800, a T707 and now an Arc).
I hope Sony will be able to walk their steps and will continue to release such good phones.
You'll probably find most of the Ericsson antipathy comes from previous x10 owners, due to the length of time it took se listen to us about its shortfalls, and how to improve them. They were good at feature phones, though...
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but thanks to SONY ERICSSON without that theres no thing like xperia series
back to sony
yeah, now I'm back to Sony
I had the Sony CMD-Z1 and Z5.
The Z5 had "fullblown" web browser - Microsoft Mobile Explorer 2.0
edit: version 2.0 not 1.0
I've always wanted the CMD-Z1. It was one of the nicest phones in its time but I don't think it was even capable of working in Canada at the time.
I've been a long Sony Ericsson user since the first T68 series phones.. now those phones were truly ahead of its time and started a lot of trends that we see in phones today.
The phone supported tethering via bluetooth and infrared. I walked around thinking I was king with my unlimited data plan with Rogers with my phone in my pocket and my Sony NZ90 clie wirelessly tethering internet from it.
the phone featured accessories like a digital camera, torch light, laser pointer adapters, full qwerty keyboard adapters, and even RC cars (via bluetooth) which was the coolest thing at the time but marketing was so terrible (at least in Canada) that nobody knew about the features in these phones. it was the first color screen phone released with user-selectable color themes & wallpapers and play games wirelessly with other T68 users.
While I think the T68 phone was one of the first phones Sony Ericsson has ever made as a joint venture, it was probably the best phone ever made. period. iirc, Sony claimed that they would partner up with Ericsson since both parties were facing losses in the telecommunications industry and Sony would gain total ownership after 10 years. So here we are 10 years later and it's amazing how quickly the mobile telecommunications industry grew during that time.
is their some one who use this already? what do you think guys flashtool still we can use it??
I'm gonna miss the SE logo.....
Hi all,
I feel lost in deciding, i need your experience and opinions.
I've chance to replace my Sony Ericsson x10i with Nokia n9-64GB, one month use.
Do you think it's good replacement?
Here is a link for comparison between Nokia N9 and Sony Ericsson x10.
Your interest and opinions are highly appreciated.
BRGRDS
if you can flash android on it, i would trade it.
I can flash android 4.0.4 but camera and calls don't work.