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Hi, I'm in need of a working "enlarged start menu"-application on my SE X1. The thing is that I really much need it to be freeware, and I suppose that "XDA-Team Enlarged Start Menu" isn't (correct?). I'm thinking about developing the application myself, but I would like to know if anyone here has any information about where to start? Is is just a matter of changing some registry keys? XML-files? Thankful for all the help i can get!
as far as i understand, the XDA Enlarged Start Menu is just taken from one of the other HTC devices and is not "payware" or anything like that.
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
Dr J said:
if anyone was developing an enlarged Start Menu, i'd love to see a kinda fullscreen version, this would make it much easier to navigate. kinda in the style of iContact or the latest volume control taken from Diamond. i don't really se why the start menu needs to be only a percentage of the screen size anyway, just seems like bad design, they've made it look like the Start Menu on a Windows Desktop PC so that we all know it's Windows, but have not actually thought about the interface being user friendly for a handheld device. for drunk people with fat fingers. like me.
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yes man, I absolutely agree !!! It´s funny, I never really thought about start menu, but now when I read your suggestion it just seems really crazy how much possibilities for improvement there are.
I thought about a completely customizable start menu, fullscreen.
Maybe with a kind of plugin system, volume / vib toggle, backlight strength slider, power off+soft-reset buttons....*sigh* THAT would be cool !
regards,
Martin
What about Touch Launcher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433862
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
m.schmidler said:
It´s a normal app, but I was talking about a REAL replacement. It should hide when I tap "Start" again, and, as I said, it should be really customizable.
To all devs out there: Is anyone interested in coding such an app ? I think this is desperatly needed to make WM a bit more usable, although there are already tons of good software out there.
regards,
Martin
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Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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hmmm, main thing i want is fullscreen. that one seems nice feature-wise, but it's not what i'm after.
devs, do any of you know how they changed the size of the Start Menu from the old style to the new enlarged one?
if we know how to do this then maybe we can hack the existing app to at least lengthen right across the width of the screen... or if it was hacked with a config we could pick how many items we wanted...
this could be a great project for the coders!
Mikulec said:
Did u try Quickmenu 2.7?
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Well, quickmenu is _almost_ perfect. If it only was more finger-friendly. Being able to scroll trough menus like in icontact and all so many other apps would be great for it, but at least having twice as big menu entries would be enough in most cases. It has all the features needed, it just mimicks the original start menu a bit too much
Touch menu from touch commander suite is exactly what you want,and it has and application menu enlarged. Unfortunaly its not freeware.
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
Andreal said:
Here is little something about system fonts:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms901091.aspx
By changing some registry values you can change size of start menu (including font size etc.) and popup menu as well.
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Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
nelshh said:
Ohh thankyou! But, using PHM Regedit I've tried changing the Ht-value for BarFnt, which didn't do anything. Perhaps you have some pointers to what I should try?
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BarFnt values are for menu bars (for example: bottom bar in total commander).
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GWE\Menu\PopFnt
is for popup menu (screen 1 shows Ht value of 1200)
Truly, I don't know how to change start menu font size via registry.
If you want to have full screen menu try mort buttons
can you launch mort buttons by tapping Start on the screen?
maybe by editing the registry ?
If anyone can duplicate the Touch Commander one it would be perfect. I have touchcommander but do not use it anymore, unfortunately you have to install the whole program to be able to use the Large menu option.
The great thing about it is it enlarges menus in all programs.
Sorry for bringing up an older thread, but I think this is still unsolved!
I also would like to have a fullscreen start menu. I tried quickmenu 2.8,but it just isnt what Im looking for. For me it would be fine if clicking on the start menu would bring up a dialog like when you click startmenu -- programs.
Hope that someone has an idea!
QUICKMENU 2.8 for me too... ^_^
I'd only add that scroll movement and ability to customize the start icon (it already does this, but only with one icon).
Hi all,
I'm not sure what its called, but you know the context menus that come up basically whenever you hold your pointer over something for a while? It annoys me with the size they are in wm6.5. I love the speed of wm6.5 (tried both xplode's r7 (about to install 7.1...) and swampy's rls) but it really annoys me that they've made everything so big. Seems to take twice as long to do simple things now because now you have to scroll down menus to find what you're looking for. Is there anyway to bring this back to the good old "classic" sizes? I can't seem to find an option anywhere... and I realise loading a skinning app is just going to slow the OS down making the whole upgrade to 6.5 kinda pointless.
Also, does anyone know a way to speed up the actual time taken to register a tap and hold command? So that we don't have to spend as long to bring up the context menus?
Thanks in advance~
-kdp
that's a lot of questions. let me start with saying that i can not guarantee you, that the reg tweaks work. i found them for different devices and checked both my devices and didn't have the reg keys in there. so i don't knoiw if it helps you. Maybe, if i find out more, i'll post it later:
1. The size of the context and softkey menus:
a. the easiest way to influence the size and look of those menus would be, installing another theme. not just the color will change, but also the entire looks, so if you have a .tsk theme, copy it to the device and activate it, you will see it changed.
b. regitry tweak:
HKLM\System\GWE\Menu\Popfnt\
there should be two dword values that you can change to whatever you like.
ht=height is default set to 1000
wt=width is default set to 700
2. a skinning app is gonna slow down the os
- true, with wm6.5 there is really no need for anything else to make the graphics any nicer
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value)
if those values didn't work, you should try out advanced config, which can be downloaded here: http://www.pocketpc.ch/news/42529-freeware-advanced-config-3-0-a.html
there you have more than 200 tweaks for the os and don't need to search the registry for any values.
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
Tap and Hold time delay Setting
I found your post ref to Tap and Hold delays. I tried this Tap and Hold setting you said worked on your phone (see below) I tried it as shown below on a HTC wm 6.5 HTC pure(diamond2), and did not see a change, were you able to shorten the delay? Is that done with a String? or Dword?
3. tap and hold time:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay
right-click, select properties, and enter a value from zero to 999 milliseconds
if that value, does not exist, create it (string value).
I have spent hours searching the registry for a solution
it was a dword iirc... tbh, this hasn't been so much of an issue for me with the newer releases so i haven't bothered so much.
koi_desi_pagal said:
first off, a big thank you for the speediness of your reply.
i tried out the other tsk files i have... but unfortunately i don't have any older ones from wm5/6, only the newer 6.5 ones. they didn't seem to make much difference in size of anything... only the actual colour/font schemes. if you have any older tsk files that you wouldn't mind uploading, that'd be much appreciated as something to try.
the softkeys aren't so much an issue - i've got wisbar to disable them (yes yes, i know wisbar is a skinning app... but i prefer a nice cascading start menu to something i need to fumble through to find stuff any day) - its more the context menus that are annoying me.
the registry edit is interesting. changing the height and width actually also changes the zoom on the font size... i'm not sure how this is being calculated, but the font is clearly getting smaller the smaller you set the dimensions. it seems like its taking a predefined box with the text designed to take up a predefined percentage of it and then letting you put in the dimensions of the box... basically so that no matter what numbers you plug in, you'll always have the rather annoying amount of space being wasted between items in the context menus. though all that said and done, 750 for height and 350 for width are far more workable than the previous settings. more than legible too imo~
the tap and hold time tweak worked wonderfully
thanks again~
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If you still need themes for wm6.1, try http://www.wm6themes.com/
I use one from that site on my BA, but since i don't have wm6.5 installed right now, i can't tell you whether it'll help in your situation or not.
Is it possible to change the startbutton's shortcut?
What i want is that when i click on it, it has to open the "old" HTC start menu. i liked that-1 way more because it was more adjustable as the new windows 6.5 startmenu. I have googled on changing the layout of the "new" start menu. untill now i am only able to delete shortcuts and to make sub directories in it. but i can't change the position of the icons other then "move to top".
It would be great if i could just change the way the start button works atm.
thnx in advance.
ps sry for bad english. i hope it's clear what i mean.
erm sorry mate, i cant find a way anywhere within the settings of the device to change that, try going with a cooked rom, they may give better organisation
Did you search the forum? This question has been asked and answered several times recently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578443
Hey Folks,
I got since several weeks a custom rom on my HD2, the only problem it the (nice looking but bad locking) HD-Mini lockscreen, which had already been cooked into the rom.
This means shortly said - the phone really often does weird things in order to unlocking the screen, which is really to easy to unlock - especially in my pocket while walking.
So, what I want is the old one back, the stock HD2 lock screen - all this sh*t never happened before (for e.g. uploading 100%dark pics of my pocket to facebook... )
How can I do this without flashing a different rom or hardresetting?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance!!
Maeffjus
Possibly find the original somewhere in the app section, it should over write the Mini one or wait for someone to CAB the original and post it up here
No... a look at the cabs-post was not helpful..nothing there..
Post 280
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6077322
have a go, but please searccchhhhh before posting!
please change the thread title
shu8i said:
please change the thread title
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Why? Its funny, and in some cases appropriate
Ohhhh my fault - sorry, but I'm not able to change...
No idea - by editing the first post it is not possible..
Also I installed the file I found at the link and it is still not working also after softreset the HD-Mini screen appears..
Why not try Cookie's home tab coupled with the CHTEditor? There are lockscreen layout options... one of the options is what lockscreen style you want.
Just as the other poster stated above, without knowing what ROM you have flashed, one can guess that Co0kie's HTE was cooked into it thus leaving the locksreen activated by default.
From the Homescreen: Goto Menu-->CHTE-->Lockscreen Setting-->ensure "Enable Default Lockscreen" is on and that "Enable CHT Lockscreen is off
Scroll down and there should be 3 options with radio buttons next to each
- Manila
- Windows
- HD Mini
Choose one.
Or the problem could be with the ROM itself; it's cocked.
the mini lock screen uses a different dll so just restoring the original lockscreen file won't work, the registry needs editing to make chome use the original dll.
sorry but currently not in a position to help In more detail.
Hmm tried it with CHTEditor but did only work with cookies lockscreen... the original ones are not working - no matter what is configured, it shows the HDmini-screen.
You may need to get a ROM without it then, or get the Chef to cook one for you
I would like to know what would cause a distorted menu while trying to choose to have my email listed in order of when it was "Received" instead of "Conversation"? It use to work fine, but I have made changes to my kitchen and obviously I did something thats causing the menu to be distorted which is shown in the screenshot I provided. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
That's probably because you messed with the reg entries in the Menu Enhancement package. Namely, the size settings to resize the menus. Take all those settings back to stock and your menu will look normal again.
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That's probably because you messed with the reg entries in the Menu Enhancement package. Namely, the size settings to resize the menus. Take all those settings back to stock and your menu will look normal again.
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Thanks NRG. You were right. It was a Smaller Menu tweak I got from the Sense 2.5.2016 VGA Port thread.
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Thanks NRG. You were right. It was a Smaller Menu tweak I got from the Sense 2.5.2016 VGA Port thread.
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You have to get the correct settings that are (almost exactly) developed for the version of menu enhancement you're using, otherwise you get that problem. Cookiemonster has a couple of threads with smaller menu cabs floating around if you want to keep that mod..