Enclosed is a bookmarked URL attachment for the deployment of UMTS in the U.S.A on the T-Mobile Network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
The big question is will the AWS 1700/2100 work with the WCDMA 2100 frequency on the Univerisal with a 3G sim card in the United States? According to a T-Mobile represenative I spoke to today that is very knowledgeable has informed me that the AWS 1700/2100 will work with the WCDMA 2100 on the Univerisal. Also if you visit a European country from the United States your device will work over there and vice-versa if a person is visiting from the European country the United States. T-Mobile will be deploying the AWS 1700/2100 frequency in May of 2008 starting in all the major cities first then going elsewhere. The towers are already setup for the 3G network. You do have to purchase a 3G sim card which is $19.99. If there is no 3G coverage then you drop down to the GSM/GPRS Network. Also to mention T-Mobile in the U.S. will be most likely selling the "HTC Dream" the predessor of the Univerisal the end of October 2008 which the T-Mobile spokesman had also informed me.
a breath of fresh air
Wow, thanks for the info on that.
Just a month ago, I was lamenting the slowness of GPRS and the lack of SDHC support on my Universal. I'll admit, it's been a year since I've been to this site.... I used thingonaspring's rom which, to my surprise, gave me sdhc support.
This is really great news as well. By the time the TMobile UMTS rollout happens, I'm sure the 32gb sdhc cards will be reasonably-priced... then we can really laugh at the iphoners!
any info on the pricing yet? like if we're supposed to pay extra for the 3G service and if it's divided between data and video call like cingular's 3G?
I'm not gonna be surprised if they suspend it again, I've asked the very same question since 2006 and I've been hearing the very same answer every year: "It should be out by this year". So we shall see if it'll really get deployed by May.
And I hope that Houston is one of the "major cities" included
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/t-mo...00mhz-network-iphone-at-wwdc-next-week-maybe/
Looks like we will be able to use 4g hspa+ on the 1900MHz band. Im pretty happy about this since the international version is much better than the U.S version in terms of the processor.
While upgrading coverage inside the West side of the Moscone Center, T-Mobile has also deployed 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band to test the live network on a small scale. As part of the company’s previously announced $4 billion network modernization effort, T-Mobile plans to launch 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band in a large number of markets by the end of the year, which will make our 4G network compatible with a broader range of devices, including the iPhone.
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Careful here.
Yeah, as much as I'd love the international version for dev support and possible "more future proof" because of the exynos quad core, I'm hesitant to rely on Tmo's "future plans". I have screaming 1700Mhz in my neighborhood and consistently get 9mb/s down on my GN. I could only imagine what a HSPA+42 device would get. Probably 25mbps lol.
Why start a new thread it has been beat to death... it's planned for end of year... period... it's a big country, only few markets will be tested...and how dependable is it going to be while they are building, testing,and stabilizing it at the same time...
I remember this being announced around Christmas time if not earlier... it's not happening over night
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The addition of LTE across networks globally has caused a number of headaches for people when deciding their next handset. It’s not simple enough to know that a phone supports LTE, you need to make sure it is compatible with the correct bands that is supported by your mobile network and region.
Sony Mobile currently has eight phones globally that supports LTE frequencies. Whilst LTE has existed for a while in markets such as the US, Japan and South Korea, it is only starting to appear in other regions across Europe, North America and Asia. Sony has provided a very useful table which shows exactly which Xperia phone (and region) is supported by each LTE band.
Link:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/01/24/lte-coverage-for-xperia-smartphones/
Not device specific so therefore doesn't belong here.
Thanks
AvRS
Frequency History from T-Mobile
HSPA/HSPA+ "4G" upgrade
The company has begun rolling out its HSPA+ capabilities throughout its cellular network, planning to complete an upgrade of the entire network by the end of 2010, covering 185 million potential subscribers. It is marketing its HSPA+ services as 4G. The company claims its HSPA+ is currently[when?] faster than Clearwire's 4G WiMAX. On September 2, 2009, Nokia launched the N900, which was the first device to support HSPA 10.2.[41]
On June 28, 2010, the company announced that it will begin to upgrade the network from HSPA+ 21 to HSPA+ 42 beginning sometime in 2011.[42] T-Mobile is marketing its HSPA+ services as 4G.
4G LTE upgrade
On February 23, 2012, during the Q4 Earnings Call, T-Mobile laid out the future of their 4G upgrade path. They will roll out the LTE network on the AWS spectrum, and transition their 1700MHz HSPA+ network to the PCS band 1900MHz and their LTE will be roll to the AWS 1700MHz Band. To achieve compatibility with other networks and phones in the USA, T-Mobile plans to begin this transition in early 2013.[43]
On August 21, 2012, The FCC approved a deal between T-Mobile and Verizon in which T-Mobile gains additional AWS spectrum licenses in 125 Cellular Market Areas.[44]
Here is more info about whats going on with the frequancy re-farming from T-Mobile http://www.tmonews.com/2013/04/ask-tmonews-what-does-the-metropcs-merger-mean-for-me/
I hope this squashes some of those questions about "Does it work on T-Mobile LTE?".
I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
this put a damper on my morning!
decentgi said:
this put a damper on my morning!
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Sorry, I think that I wasn't clear, but I am sure that the existing networks will still be supported. So our Xperia Z should still work, but you can be sure that the this 4G network will be the new development and the network they will put the most work into (Similar to Telstra's nextG)
Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
Got coverage in south eastern side of Melbourne, chadstone, mount Waverly, burwood, Doncaster
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danw_oz said:
I am concerned after the Government sold new 4G bands to Telstra, Optus and TPG.
The new bands are in the 700Mhz 4G bands, similar to Americas 4G networks. IMO a stupid move because hardly any phone manufacturers target this band when creating global devices. Why is Australia trying to follow the US so much?
This will significantly reduce the 4G devices that we will be able to buy going forward, and in a lot of cases will not even be available. Obviously the Telcos are excited by this, because you are more likely to be forced into buying their phones.
The roll out is planned over the next two years
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Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
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Not bothered by this, the 4G coverage is still too 5hit IMO...
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Yep your not wrong
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Worldwide companies are working with the 700Mhz band. Vodafone international has been testing the 700Mhz band in New Zealand, Australia, U.K and parts of Europe for the past year due to it's higher stability, and far better range than current bandwidths. Phone manufacturers are also aware of this, but it's still a long way from being put into commercial use, mainly due to the bandwidth still being tied up with other services (UHF Television for example).
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I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
danw_oz said:
I am not sure that you are correct, because Vodafone have not purchased any 700MHz bands for 4G in Australia. These are new bands that have just been opened up, so any commercial testing on these bands can only start now and not for Vodafone. Analogue TV is being switched off here very soon, and all of Australia by the end of the year.
Vodafone is huge in New Zealand but in Australia they are CRAP, and they are typically known as vodafail, they are only enabling the 4G in June, the band they are using in Australia is 1800MHz with a 20MHz width.
Yes, and New Zealand has commonly been unusual for mobile support look at the telecom cdma network that was introduced, and the lack of devices to support it when it was released.
Qualcomm already has all LTE bands support in it's latest chipset, but obviously that is not included in most phones today.
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The Sale of Bandwidths is so a provider can use them towards commercial use, Telstra for example began LTE testing as early as 2010. Companies do not need to purchase a frequency before they can begin testing on it. For Example, Vodafone New Zealand launched LTE just this March, after purchasing the 1800Mhz frequency in February, but have been testing the frequency since 2011.
And I agree, Vodafone in Australia is rubbish
Don't get me started on Telecom, they're the reason NZ is still so far behind the rest of the developed world in terms of Telecommunications.