I have a rooted white g1 with jesus frekes v 1.42 and I don't have internet access during a call. Like I saw the demo and you can use your maps during a call. I live in a 3g area and i called someone and i could not go on google maps and did not have any 3g but when i canceled the call 3g symbol came back on.
Does that happen to everyone or only me? and if only me, how do i fix it????
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All,
Are you experiencing problems with the 3G network?
I work in the city near Liverpool Street and for the last couple of weeks I am experiencing problems when logged on to the 3G network.
For example when I dial my mobile it goes straight to my voicemail.
Some of my work colleagues are unable to connect to the 3G data network.
Anyone else experiening this?
If I switch back to the GSM network everything works fine.
I have tried ringing T-Mobile and can not get through to them,
I am using Black 2.5 WM6 and radio 1.41
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Msuk
not experienced probs
Been OK for me. I use a virgin sim but believe it uses T-Mobile network. Work in same area.
Same problem here in Manchester - 3G has been fine and rock solid until Saturday night and all hell has now broken loose....
Works OK at first, then no calls can get through - datarates are up and down like a tarts knickers (if available at all) and occasionally cell disappears totally. Move into city centre and all is well again :-/
Ruled out a device problem by trying another device
T-Mob are aware there is a problem with 3G at the moment but customer services were unable to point to a resolve time.
In the interim tho (incase you didn't guess) you can force your device onto GSM rather than 3G if missing calls is critical for you when the network's having a play up.
Hey Guys
yeah t-mobile have serious issues with the 3g network at the moment (as of this lunch time). Its there number 1 priority issue and have every one and his brother looking into it.
In the meantime, they have told me to drop my calls down to GSM - in reality this means that you won't be able to make video calls but thats pretty much it.
Start->Settings->Phone->Band-> "Select your network Type" to GSM (from Auto.
London/ Canary Wharf - same problem
Same problem with 3G in Canary Wharf in London - both on Hermes and Trinity. Switching to GSM solves the problem.
Sometimes people can not contact me.
Outgoing calls - people hear me fine, but I can hardly hear them.
Have tried various radio 35, 38 and 41. And various ROM - WM6 and official HTC WM5... Same problem.
I searched all the threads and found nothing on this as far as I can see. I have been having this since day one with my G1. Every time I receive a call on my G1 or during the call it drops from 3G to GSM. I had stock T-Mo roms on my G1 (Pre/Post Cupcake) then JF 1.51 and now cyanogen 4.0.2 and this problem persists. I called T-Mo a few times on this and they exchanged my G1 3 times and gave me a new battery and charger free of charge. Does anyone else have this issue or know of a work around? This happens when I am at home and work. I travel for work to different locations and it still happens. When my phone rings it automatically drops 3G and goes to GSM (no icon next to the radio icon in the status bar). While making calls it stays on 3G for about a few seconds before it craps out and drops to GSM. It totally skips EDGE and GPRS. T-Mo said they sent out radio antenna tech's to the antennas near my home and they said all is fine and dandy. I live In Queens NY and work in the Bronx. When I travel to Brooklyn its the same as well as driving though Manhattan. I hope someone can help me with this.
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I searched all the threads and found nothing on this as far as I can see. I have been having this since day one with my G1. Every time I receive a call on my G1 or during the call it drops from 3G to GSM. I had stock T-Mo roms on my G1 (Pre/Post Cupcake) then JF 1.51 and now cyanogen 4.0.2 and this problem persists. I called T-Mo a few times on this and they exchanged my G1 3 times and gave me a new battery and charger free of charge. Does anyone else have this issue or know of a work around? This happens when I am at home and work. I travel for work to different locations and it still happens. When my phone rings it automatically drops 3G and goes to GSM (no icon next to the radio icon in the status bar). While making calls it stays on 3G for about a few seconds before it craps out and drops to GSM. It totally skips EDGE and GPRS. T-Mo said they sent out radio antenna tech's to the antennas near my home and they said all is fine and dandy. I live In Queens NY and work in the Bronx. When I travel to Brooklyn its the same as well as driving though Manhattan. I hope someone can help me with this.
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ive always had this as well .. just never considered it a bug lol ... but i could see why someone would wanna keep their 3g while on a call .. reminds me of how sidekicks would lose data connectivity due to a call
xidominicanoix said:
but i could see why someone would wanna keep their 3g while on a call .. reminds me of how sidekicks would lose data connectivity due to a call
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Could you elaborate?
If you've had 3 G1's and a tech says there's nothing wrong with the network then it's clearly an issues with cupcake, be it a feature or a bug...
I don't really see why you would want to keep data conectivity while in a call, (unless you're downloading something in the background..?) so it sounds like a way to save battery..
AdrianK said:
Could you elaborate?
If you've had 3 G1's and a tech says there's nothing wrong with the network then it's clearly an issues with cupcake, be it a feature or a bug...
I don't really see why you would want to keep data conectivity while in a call, (unless you're downloading something in the background..?) so it sounds like a way to save battery..
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Here's a perfect example where 3G would rule when working properly.
I'm talking to my wife on my BT headset while driving home from work. I have my G1 on my dash with google maps running with traffic patterns showing. While talking I am able to talk clearly on 3G and still see where traffic is building so I can avoid it. Being stuck in rush hour in NYC sux homeless man [email protected] Whenever I do this and my 3G connection drops my call quality drops and we both hear it while we're talking and then it cuts in and out and the call drops then I dont get updates. It's a feature I would really like to have. Even when Im working and talking and downloading a new update of an app. This happens when I am at a static location as well. I know driving from cell tower to cell tower can have bad effects but it does the same when I'm just at home or any of my work locations. When 3G works properly which is rare its amazing. Its helped me get un lost and find my way many of times.
Point being when T-Mo released the 3G statement they said all users with 3G phones will expierence higher call quality from the extra bandwidth. Why would they cap or or disable it when they are promoting it? I see the the point of saving battery life but it still shouldnt be happening. 3G is made for that feature to work voice + data being accessed together.
It might just be there 3g network, imo tmobile reception is horrible. Like at my house it is so f'ed up, I can sit in my chair and have 3 bars then walk 2 feet and lose service. It does this all through my house and at my work. They said it must be something in the buildings I am in, bull**** I say because ATT never does that nor did vzw when I used them.
same thing happens with me and 3g and calls..also about the house thing, hows this one for u ill be sitting in the same spot and have good 3g reception and all of a sudden it drops to edge. I know a way around this is to set phone to 3G only but then in areas where theres non im screwed
I don't get it. My wife who had the original iPhone and then 3g and now 3gs never had this issue. She would stay on Edge and 3g depending if she waned to save batery life. My old BB 8700g would always stay on Edge never drop to GSM in my apartment. My 3G doesnt even fall to Edge it goes right to GSM. This is really annoying.
every t-mobile phone I have does this
I'm pretty sure its normal
No one knows if this is a hardware, software, or network problem. Except maybe HTC/T-Mobile/Google.
If your phone stays connected to 3G, it's all good. If it drops down to EDGE, even if for half a second, it will NOT reconnect to 3G until you hang up.
c2tmdsn said:
every t-mobile phone I have does this
I'm pretty sure its normal
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My coworkers Samsung t819 doesn't. That's regular cell phone not a smart phone.
Gary13579 said:
No one knows if this is a hardware, software, or network problem. Except maybe HTC/T-Mobile/Google.
If your phone stays connected to 3G, it's all good. If it drops down to EDGE, even if for half a second, it will NOT reconnect to 3G until you hang up.
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If any of those 3 know they should fix it or at the very least advertise that the calls you make are dropped to the lower bandwidth of the GSM network.
T-Mo finally got 3G for the last year don't dumb it down guys. Fix this.
Yes it is true once your phone drops beneath 3G it will not go to 3G until you hang up the call.
try running 3g only or wdma only by creating phone info shortcut on anycut .. im going to try that out and see if it ever drops .. should be a temporary fix for you atleast with the whole maps thing and such but if you ever in an edge only are your screwed
turboyo said:
try running 3g only or wdma only by creating phone info shortcut on anycut .. im going to try that out and see if it ever drops .. should be a temporary fix for you atleast with the whole maps thing and such but if you ever in an edge only are your screwed
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I changed it to wcdma only in phone info. Hopefully this works. Everywhere I travel to throughout NYC has 3G. Hopefully this works. Also I have noticed that when downloading anything from 3G be it the market or browser it would drop from 3G to Edge as well.
PeterC18st said:
I changed it to wcdma only in phone info. Hopefully this works. Everywhere I travel to throughout NYC has 3G. Hopefully this works. Also I have noticed that when downloading anything from 3G be it the market or browser it would drop from 3G to Edge as well.
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*UPDATE*
While at home downloading apps from Android Market on 3G with wcdma only selected the radio dropped with no netowkr connection. Bust.
PeterC18st said:
I don't get it. My wife who had the original iPhone and then 3g and now 3gs never had this issue. She would stay on Edge and 3g depending if she waned to save batery life. My old BB 8700g would always stay on Edge never drop to GSM in my apartment. My 3G doesnt even fall to Edge it goes right to GSM. This is really annoying.
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Did she use att or tmobile with the iphone? Because att has a much stronger 3g network then tmobile which could be why. I am pretty sure it is something to do with tmobiles network and not your phone, perhaps your area has to many users for it to stay on 3G. I have read about how the cell towers work and they have only so many bands for each user to access at any given time so if tmobile doesn't have enough towers or those things mounted on the towers it may be set up so you only get 3G for data usage and not calls since they don't technically require it to work.
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Did she use att or tmobile with the iphone? Because att has a much stronger 3g network then tmobile which could be why. I am pretty sure it is something to do with tmobiles network and not your phone, perhaps your area has to many users for it to stay on 3G. I have read about how the cell towers work and they have only so many bands for each user to access at any given time so if tmobile doesn't have enough towers or those things mounted on the towers it may be set up so you only get 3G for data usage and not calls since they don't technically require it to work.
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My wife is on ATT. Isn't lower frequency better at penetrating through walls and such? (T-Mo 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz compared to ATT 1800 MHz) They haven't booted their 850 MHz antennas yet so I hear.
If that is true then why not boot me down to Edge or gprs why all the way down to gsm? I been living in the same area for 26 years. I have been with T-Mo before they even had antennas in my area and walking outside was the only way to get a signal with my phone. Now I get full reception in and out of my apartment and 3G connectivity in my apartment with a signal strength of -93dBm through out my apartment on 3G and -79 dBm on Edge.
T-Mo stated that this should not be happening. Hence the 3 phones new battery and charger and techs to the antennas. I'm starting to think its a HTC Android problem and not a T-Mo problem. Hopefully a new radio update can fix it.
I didn't even know GSM was still used in that way, I thought GPRS would be the bare minimum. How can you tell the difference? I use to only get a G icon and I looked it up and for the g1 it said that meant GPRS, what does it show for GSM? Not like any of this matters though.
I really have no idea why all this is happening to your G1 but I hope it gets resolved, good luck.
edit: on the tmobile coverage map it says edge/gprs and 3g, no gsm. does that make any difference? I checked for NYC overall not any specific boroughs.
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I didn't even know GSM was still used in that way, I thought GPRS would be the bare minimum. How can you tell the difference? I use to only get a G icon and I looked it up and for the g1 it said that meant GPRS, what does it show for GSM? Not like any of this matters though.
I really have no idea why all this is happening to your G1 but I hope it gets resolved, good luck.
edit: on the tmobile coverage map it says edge/gprs and 3g, no gsm. does that make any difference? I checked for NYC overall not any specific boroughs.
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GSM is what Edge Gprs and 3G run off of. Think of it as a progression. GSM>GPRS>EDGE>3G.
The way I know it is on GSM is to the left of the Radio icon on the home screen there is another icon that shows the network your on. 3G=3G E=EDGE G=GPRS and no icon means GSM. GSM is still being used. Most SMS and MMS messages get sent to your from through GSM while you are on a call.
Hey there, I swear I though we could have simultaneous voice and data with the Nexus One on T-Mobile USA yet it's not working for me.
Anyone else? Let me know if it's working or not...
NOTE: don't be connected to WiFi at the time of testing. Make a phone call, then try to view google maps and move around, or go surf the internet using the browser and report back.
Thanks everyone!
are you sure you are on 3G? EDGE does not support voice and data at the same time.
Ahh, well my phone has been having the issue that a lot of people have been reporting where it flips back and fourth from 3G to EDGE, so perhaps that's why.... I'm testing it right now when knowing it's on 3G.... So it works when I have the 3G icon.
I think my problem is that the phone is locking on EDGE and not swapping to 3G when it has the option to once on a phone call... My phone seems to be swapping from EDGE to 3G just like a lot of people are saying, even when they have other phones with no issues on the same carrier at the same locations.
Thanks for that info! still having the issue of the phone seemingly not wanting to jump to a 3G cell after it jumps to EDGE.
I don't know if I'm having issues with my phone or T-Mobile's network but I can't get any mobile data functionality. The 3G / H icon displays but any attempt to get any data sees the upload indicator active with no download activity. I've tried WiFi which works fine so it's either a problem with the radio or T-Mobile. Any UK owners on T-Mobile tonight that can tell me if there are issues? Thanks
no issues for me in se london/n kent area
That's what I thought, thanks. I had this a month or so ago where all data downloading would fail but the upload arrow would constantly be there like it was sending requests and getting nothing back. I never did find the problem and it started working a few hours later so it's likely a local issue. I'm in the North East.
i have no issues, in the east midlands
3290 kbps! that's rather fast, I live in the east midlands and don't get anywhere near that
Dyonas said:
I don't know if I'm having issues with my phone or T-Mobile's network but I can't get any mobile data functionality. The 3G / H icon displays but any attempt to get any data sees the upload indicator active with no download activity. I've tried WiFi which works fine so it's either a problem with the radio or T-Mobile. Any UK owners on T-Mobile tonight that can tell me if there are issues? Thanks
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switch off your data with the widget and then restart your phone and switch on the data after the restart
see if that works
otherwise no problem on tmobile in north london/west london... been traving and surfing to make sure my team werent losing. i shouldn't have botherd
It's been fine in the Durham area for me, probably pulled a couple of hundred MB down today...
I hate this stuff sometimes.. I had no 3G from about 7pm last night but 2G worked fine when I finally thought to check it. I tried an hour or so ago and now 3G is back up and running. I know it wasn't the phone because it put the SIM in my Milestone and had the same problem, stupid networks!
I was on the Phone with Dell trying to order my new Sony Bravia TV and I was trying to use the internet so I could give the rep the proper item number. To my surprise I couldnt surf the web and do voice at the same time. I thought on GSM network this was possible. When I had Cingular a few years back this was possible. What gives? Why am I not about to do both at the same time?
That's strange. I've been on the phone and surfed the internet and/or used most of the other functions on the phone at the same time.
I've had no problems talking and surfing at the same time provided I had a 3G signal. Maybe you were in a marginal reception area and the signal wasn't solid but it does work.
I dont know why it didnt work, and it sorta pissed me off, does it have to be 3g in order to do voice and data
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I dont know why it didnt work, and it sorta pissed me off, does it have to be 3g in order to do voice and data
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Nope. This is my first 3g phone on t-mobile. Never had a problem with edge voice + data
937dytboi said:
I was on the Phone with Dell trying to order my new Sony Bravia TV and I was trying to use the internet so I could give the rep the proper item number. To my surprise I couldnt surf the web and do voice at the same time. I thought on GSM network this was possible. When I had Cingular a few years back this was possible. What gives? Why am I not about to do both at the same time?
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Was data working otherwise in that area? I've been in some areas where data doesn't work at all.
it should have been.
On edge I can't get consistant voice and data with any phone I've ever had, it is more consistant when getting a 3G signal.
You need a 3G signal to do Voice + Data as 2G (G)PRS nor 2.5G (E)DGE have enough bandwidth to support both.