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Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?
Well you can tell your friedn that android does support push now.
I used to be on the old Symbian 60 platform on Nokia smart phones, Nokia N-Gage QD to be exact. That is where my lust for smart phones kicked off.
Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.
Came from...
Sanyos
Audiovox9800(best phone verizon EVER had)
Treo 600
Treo 650
BB
Ocean(Used to work at Helio)
Shadow(had for 2 days!! hate that keyboard!!!)
7Dashes(Kept screwing up)
Wing
My baby(G1)
lame phones!
Well to be honest the g1 is my first smart phone. B4 that I had mid line phones. U know not cheap but not expensive. I wanted an iPhone but when I say the promo site for it I reserved it for the partial discount price. But as fate would have it I had to cancel. See I have a oil heater at home and we all know its expensive to fill up. So I was sad for a bit but after seeing 2 of my friends with the g1 I said wth and ordered it again. And this time tmo gave me the full discount because I have been a costomer for over 8 years! When I got it I fell in love. **** the iphone. LONG LIVE ANDROID!
first smartphone was
Blackberry pearl 8100 tmobile(scroll ball problems)
tmobile wing(water damage)
tmobile shadow(cracked screen)
unlocked 8525(screen went white)
unlocked tilt (8925) with duttythroy rom loaded up(sold it for 150 and walked back into the mall and said i wanted to upgrade to g1 =)
and now g1 with 2.7.3 jachero.
when i had my tilt, i missed the blackberry push email and the trackball.dpad gets annoying at times.
but i love the skyfire browser and vtap on windowsmobile.. vtap on android kinda blows since it only looking up youtube vids.. and flash content on the skyfire browser was a beaut. i wish the hero rom flash capabilities could compare to skyfire =(
The T-Mobile Shadow. The Original, not that new one.
This is the "friend" he spoke off on the first post..
This is the real issue down here: read what I wrote below.
I'm not sick of BlackBerry (BB). I love the whole package.
But I would like to have other options and recently I've noticed that WinMo/Android and basically no other operating system comes with the whole package as well integrated as a BB. And this is bothersome to me because at this rate I'm stuck with BB.
Guys is it possible to have at least 5 email accounts setup on a Android device (or WinMo)? Will it work as good as my BB does (AKA. Push E-mail)?
If not then what steps can I take to acquire said features (on an Android or WinMo device)? I'm willing to pay a MAX monthly fee of $30 if I have to. Which is what I'm actually paying BB at the moment for the whole "BlackBerry" thing.
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Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?
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By the way I don't think I won't have a good experience with Android. I've seen what the OS and UI behave like. I like it.
Read my post above and U'll understand what this is about. It's about me becoming so organized that I refuse to leave this unless I'm 100% sure there is a equal substitute in the platform I'm going to.
went from
some random samsung phone (one of those really ghetto clamshell ones that refuse to break)
to a nokia 6265, which was a great phone, but it got stolen
to a moto krzr red, the only one that was impossible to hack T.T
to a samsung sgh-d807, which i found on the ground in the snow after my krzr's screen cracked,
to my rogers htc dream
Chahk said:
Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.
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This, minus the unlocked G1/ATT. Got it for my birthday in November.
first I had random samsungs and lg's just for the camera's and cool ringtones.
moved to an audiovox smt 5600( i think it was actually an Htc) coolest cheap phone ever!
samsung black jack... sucked couldnt even watch movies on it.
2g iphone ..no mms and no video recorder mode until modded. I hated the fact that apple had so much control.
Now loving the G1
Well I've been through several smartphones, lets see: 1) nokia 3620 2) htc c500 3) htc c600 4) htc dream. Definitely like android more than winmo or s60. I've also played with a few blackberry pearls and detested them, reminds me of the crappy symbian interface without the flexibility. As far as the gentleman wondering about push email on android. Set the gmail account to retrieve emails from your other accounts via pop, if you wish it can leave them on the other mail servers or delete them. Once the mail shows up in gmail it will push to your phone.
Early motorola phone (Dont remember I was 18 with money and influenced by a mall guy ) I never got my free case for it.
Nokia device (liked it cause of the big screen on the outside and could have pics there)
Motorola RAZR V3 Miami Ink Edition (one with dragon on it) I liked this phone and it was a true trooper. A lot of people were having issues with it being so fragile but I beat mine up and it took it with a passion.
And finally my G1. Actually the real reason I wanted it was cause of the Open Source that it featured but I am sure that I was not the only one out there. I will say this I wanted this phone cause I do webdesign and I figured that I could be different from the whole BB society. My only pep peeve is the kids that get the phone for the trend factor and not the modding factor but I guess thats just me
Came from the BB pearl. Greatest choice I've ever made other then beer.
my smart phone life started on a Nokia 6682, but i quickly upgraded to an 8525, and then the tilt the day it camem out. i can't stand to have a non-touch screen phone anymore so i went to t-mo and got the G1, bit of a downgrade on my service as now i only have EDGE but hopefully i can get back to 3G soon. the only way to get me to even look at a phone is to tell me it has a touchscreen and a full hardware qwerty keyboard, i don't care if it's a 4-row or 5-row, but i am liking the keyboard on this phone
I've only had 3 cell phones in my life so far, my first cell phone was the Sanyo SCP-8200 in silver, my second was the Nokia 5610 in white and now I have my very first smart phone...the T-Mobile G1 in white. I made the change because I saw potential in the G1 to be the best and I don't usually ride the band wagon because it's new and everybody's getting it but if it's official and exclusive like the G1 then I'm riding it to the mothasucking wheels fall off but what I do miss from my former cell phones was camera flash.
First phone was a skytel on nextel, then had a grayscale blue moto with a flip up keyboard (forget the name), then v3, v3i, v8 (or something like that merlot slide phone similar to v9), g1.
Before android i had a windows phone the shadow to be exact the original one not that new round one before that i was a samsung fan
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...sive-Google-Nexus-One-to-launch-in-April.html
Google’s Nexus One, the company’s first own-brand mobile phone, will launch in the UK in April. It will be on sale through Google.com/phone only, as the company has previously announced. Tariffs have not been announced, but the Nexus One is likely to be priced very similarly to comparable smartphones such as the iPhone.
Built by HTC, the Nexus One is Google’s attempt to assert the superiority of its mobile operating system Android, in the face of market dominance from Apple’s iPhone and Microsoft’s reinvigorated mobile software, Windows Phone.
Although the search giant’s first official UK partner, Vodafone, had been keen for a launch in March, sources close to both companies have confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that April is when the company will have a realistic chance of being ready for the launch.
The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing. Although sales had initially been reported as slow in comparison to the iPhone, the Nexus One has not benefited from the significant promotion that Apple has bought for its flagship product.
Google issued an update to the phone, shortly after its American launch in January, which added the multitouch web browsing that has been so successful on Apple’s iPhone.
Both Google and Vodafone would only say that they were committed to delivering the phone to the UK “in the spring”.
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The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing.
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No wonder sales have been lower than expected. Never rely on an insect to pass on information!
The Samsung Galaxy S could get updated to Android 2.2 in France by the end of September, according to internet reports.
The reports quote a ‘Samsung France representative’, which means if we’re to believe them we still don’t know when the update, aka Froyo, will land on UK versions of the phone.
Phandroid does offer some hope, pointing out that the French Samsung Galaxy S is an international version that is available in most territories.
Samsung has already said that Samsung Galaxy S’ in its native Korea would be first to get the update in August, with it rolling out to other territories after that.
Android 2.2 is expected to give iOS 4 a real run for its money, it will turn phones into Wi-Fi hotspots so files can be passed between phone and computers; offer faster connectivity; support Flash 10.1; and allow users to store and install apps with a MicroSD card.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/20/word-from-samsung-france-is-galaxy-s-will-see-froyo-in-september/
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The Samsung Galaxy S could get updated to Android 2.2 in France by the end of September, according to internet reports.
The reports quote a ‘Samsung France representative’, which means if we’re to believe them we still don’t know when the update, aka Froyo, will land on UK versions of the phone.
Phandroid does offer some hope, pointing out that the French Samsung Galaxy S is an international version that is available in most territories.
Samsung has already said that Samsung Galaxy S’ in its native Korea would be first to get the update in August, with it rolling out to other territories after that.
Android 2.2 is expected to give iOS 4 a real run for its money, it will turn phones into Wi-Fi hotspots so files can be passed between phone and computers; offer faster connectivity; support Flash 10.1; and allow users to store and install apps with a MicroSD card.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/20/word-from-samsung-france-is-galaxy-s-will-see-froyo-in-september/
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Their carrier partner in SK is switching to an unlimited data plan in August to coincide with the release so I think there's a lot of evidence to these rumors. I'll be a little excited to have the first, non-N1, Android device with official Froyo. Woot
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Hi there
two points,
I think it is the iPhone that would have to try give Android a run for its money, not visa versa, or are you talking about the fluidity of the interface? I suppose with that, the iphone is still tops, but feature wise, it has been overtaken with 2.1.
SGS can already run as a WiFi hotspot... just press one button in your settings and it is a hotspot.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Hi there
two points,
I think it is the iPhone that would have to try give Android a run for its money, not visa versa, or are you talking about the fluidity of the interface? I suppose with that, the iphone is still tops, but feature wise, it has been overtaken with 2.1.
SGS can already run as a WiFi hotspot... just press one button in your settings and it is a hotspot.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Yep, I used the hotspot feature the other day on my o2 galaxy s. I thought I was going to have to do without moving from my touch HD, but nope! Result.
Not willing to pay $500 for another nexus... any phone on the horizon i should be looking out for? I need a new android phone. I am interested in the Evo, but dont want to go to Sprint. Is getting the HD2 and puttin andorid on it worth it? or even equivalant?
are you on Tmobile or Att? Did insurance not cover the phone, they should only charge you $130 to replace the Nexus?
Lots of new phones are coming out, droid 2, blaze, etc. droid x is already out
next time get wavesecure or something of the equivalent and you wont have to go through this
Well, assuming you're on T-Mo, there are TONS of phones slated toward the end of the year/holidays. There will be a phone, as rumored by T-Mo themselves, that will be fully HSPA+ compatible, meaning no 7.2 mbps cap on dl's. There's also the rumored G1 "sequel" (for lack of a better word), aka the Blaze (I think). There is also the Samsung Vibrant.
The HD2 isn't worth it in my opinion, but it depends on how bad you want it. The phone runs android similar to the way the iPhone can run android, in that a modified bootloader uses .imgs to load the system (AFAIK). There have been reports about the HD2 getting better benchmarks than the nexus, but idk.
edit: And HOPEFULLY there will be a Desire HD (aka HTC Ace) on US 3G bands. That's the phone I'm looking forward to.
HD2 seems to run froyo pretty well from my experience. in some ways the hardware is superior to the nexus but cheaper
And this will all be for not if they really do release a dual-core processor in a phone. I will literally **** bricks.
thanks for the replies.
i had wavescure, but wavesecure doesnt mean tit if they hard reset the phone!
i have tmo. i bought the hd2, but im having some issues running froyo2.2 on my phone. trying to workout the kinks.
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Well, assuming you're on T-Mo, there are TONS of phones slated toward the end of the year/holidays. There will be a phone, as rumored by T-Mo themselves, that will be fully HSPA+ compatible, meaning no 7.2 mbps cap on dl's. There's also the rumored G1 "sequel" (for lack of a better word), aka the Blaze (I think).
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As it turns out, the G2 will be the first HSPA+ smartphone - there's no "also" in those 2 rumors.
This unpublished T-Mobile forum/post (dated just a couple of hours ago!) already showed up in a Google search, but it isn't yet linked into their forum hierarchy. Note that the link at the end to sign up for early details doesn't seem to be working yet...
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/T-Mobile-G2-with-Google/td-p/449728
T-Mobile is proud to have launched the world’s first Android-powered phone, the T-Mobile G1, which captured the imagination of developers and consumers alike nearly two years ago. Now, we are readying its successor - the T-Mobile G2 with Google. Delivering tight integration with Google services, the G2 will break new ground as the first smartphone specifically designed for our advanced HSPA+ network, which delivers today’s available 4G speeds. In the coming weeks we’ll share more details about the G2, including information on how current T-Mobile customers can get exclusive first access. Visit http://g2.t-mobile.com to register for updates.
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The Nexus ONe rides again - It's still a Star Here's the article
A flop with consumers, sold-out Nexus One scores with developers.
Google tried — and ultimately failed — to turn the U.S. wireless market upside-down by selling its supercharged Nexus One Android phone online, with minimal help from the big carriers. But now, months after shuttering its online storefront for the phone, the Nexus One is a sudden, improbable hit.
Who’s buying the Nexus One, you ask? Android developers, that’s who — and apparently, they’re so eager to get their mitts on the eight-month-old handset that Google supply of Nexus One phones for developers is completely sold out.
So says a post on Google’s Android developers blog (via TechCrunch), with Google’s Tim Bray writing that Google "blew through the (substantial) initial inventory in almost no time," adding that Nexus One manufacturer HTC is busy trying to crank out more of the suddenly gotta-have handsets.
Google launched the Nexus One — described in hushed tones as the "Google Phone" in the days and weeks before its official unveiling — way back in January, and the search behemoth caused quite a stir by offering the Android 2.1-powered handset only on the Web, through Google’s own Nexus One online storefront.
Why all the fuss? Because usually it’s the big carriers (think AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon Wireless) who do the heavy lifting in terms of marketing and selling cell phones, both online and (mainly) in brick-and-mortar stores. While it got a little help from T-Mobile, which subsidized the Nexus One for use on its network, Google’s decision to go it virtually alone with the Nexus One — with practically no marketing help from a carrier—was seen as a potentially game-changing move.
Unfortunately, it turned out to be anything but. Sales of the Nexus One never took off, and an unprepared Google — which, before the Nexus One launch, had little need for a bank of customer-service reps — found itself quickly overwhelmed by customers complaining about iffy 3G reception (which ultimately led to a patch) and other assorted glitches.
Consumers were also underwhelmed by the less-than-revolutionary $179 two-year contract price and $529 price tag for an unlocked Nexus One, while existing T-Mobile users were turned off by the $379 upgrade price for the phone (which was eventually cut by $100). Last May, Google finally waved the white flag, announcing that it would close down its online Nexus One store.
So yes, Google learned the hard way that nothing beats a "full-court press by a big national carrier" (as I wrote back in May) when it comes to selling a smartphone. But here’s the thing: The well-reviewed Nexus One itself wasn’t a bad phone — indeed, it was (and still is) a pretty good one, complete with a 3.7-inch AMOLED screen, a 1GHz "Snapdragon" processor, 512MB of RAM, and a 5-megapixel camera with a flash.
The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2 — a fact that clearly wasn’t lost on enthusiastic Android developers, who’ve been able to buy the unlocked Nexus One — in droves, apparently — direct from Google for a few weeks now.
In any case, Google is now in the strange but surely satisfying position of "working hard on re-stocking" (as Google’s TIm Bray puts it) a smartphone that looked all but dead just a few months ago. Strange, but true.
Google’s Android developers blog: A Little Too Popular (via TechCrunch)
— Ben Patterson is a technology writer for Yahoo! News.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100820/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc3447
guess that means that the nexus was more popular then Google thought
Sounds like the making of a Nexus 2 could become possible. Anybody else agree?
"The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2" - REALLY? It was THE first phone. And it wasn't a "pretty good" phone, it was the best on the market for several months after launch. I think this guy has some facts he needs to get straightened out.
I really think the nexus sold more units over time then people think, and is in demand more than people think. This kinda shows that. Google jumped the gun by closing their online store. Also they mis calculated by not making the nexus into a whole line of Google phones.
The Nexus would have taken off at the time, but Google saw fit to market their well known search engine at superbowls and such instead of a phone that no one heard of.
As much as Google may have fumbled the marketing of the Nexus One when it was sold publicly - all that aside...
The article makes a lot of noise without revealing any numbers which are key to really verifying the conclusion that the phone is becoming more popular as a developer phone.
Yes, Google sold out the developer allotment - that's great. But, they also sold out a few allotments of their public phone back in the day - most notably the last allotment they ordered in July which sold out a week or two earlier than expected. That fact alone doesn't mean anything without knowing how big the allotments were. For all the article states, the allotment for the developers could have been very tiny under the theory that a smaller audience produces less sales and most developers would probably have already ordered one when they were sold publicly anyway.
All we know is that someone was pleasantly surprised by the demand for it from the developer store and that the initial allotment - chosen specifically for that sales purpose - was underestimated.
But, we don't know if that represents higher overall demand (or even relative demand) compared to the public allotments. And we don't know if either demand represented enough market force for the company to have continued to pursue its business plan of being in the open market for handsets.
It also rankles me when they make supporting comments like "now, months after shuttering its online storefront". Sorry, it was less than 1 month since they shut down the storefront when they sold out the developer phones. And don't ignore that allotments were selling out during the consumer sales when you try to make it sound like the developer sell-out was unprecedented. The fact that it was almost 1 month after the shut down the store (not months like the author states) was *due* to a consumer sellout. Otherwise it would have only been a couple of weeks since the store front was scheduled to shut down.
I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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Hi Roger,
That is a good point, but it isn't the tone of the article. "A flop with consumers" - "the Nexus One is [now] a sudden, improbable hit" - "[developers buying] in droves, apparently".
A flop? Really?
Sudden hit? Really that sudden?
Improbable hit? Really?
It may have had marketing problems, but it was never a flop. The new MS phones being canceled a week after they were released - that's a flop for you. And there is nothing sudden about a sellout a couple of weeks after another sellout. Nor is there anything improbably about that, or anything that spells "hit". And how big is a "drove". Apparently it is so specific that they suddenly realize the complete lack of facts in their piece and have to tack on the word "apparently". So, the phone is now selling to developers in a manner that one can only suppose is describable by a term that is as vague as "droves". Cute.
I'm glad that it is still selling and I'm glad that it sold out its developer allotment, but this article is exaggerating the impact of those facts with hyperbole based on both lack of knowledge (believing that the phone has been off sale for "months", etc.) and assumption of facts not presented.
It would be one thing if they had said what you said "The developer allotment sold out which shows that there is still positive demand for a device that is this old, but without numbers we can't tell if the demand is actually stronger in its developer form than it was as a consumer offering". But no, they basically paint its consumer history as if they couldn't be given away and then, without any numbers, paint the developer demand as being so much stronger than anything anyone could have expected that Google was stupid to have canceled it.
Sorry, no, the sell-out indicates that someone, somewhere, was wrong about a prediction that was specific to developer sales and has no bearing whatsoever about how the demand now compares to the demand as a consumer phone or to any other currently shipping phones.
As far as longevity - the G1 was still being sold as recently as about a month ago. Technology alone doesn't really dictate sales, but it is an important driver.
Now that Google knows there is an appetite for a "super dev phone", might they also reconsider their decision to permanently shelve the UMTS 850/1900 version?
I hate articles like this. The facts are wrong which makes the whole article irrelevant. I think the problem with the Nexus One is that only the geeks here really heard about it. There was no advertising done what-so-ever.
Although I am surprised to see more and more people recognize it as "Is that the Google phone?".
I'm glad I bought mine when I did because they shut down the store. Now I love it even more knowing that every joe-smoe can't go out and pick one up. I like knowing that I have one of the best Android phones and "you" can't buy one anymore.
I think we'll see a huge demand for the N1 when Gingerbread comes out. I think it will take a lot of time and a lot more tweaking to get 3.0 on a 2.x device then it was 2.2 on top of 2.1. I'm just happy that Google is developing it specifically for my phone and I don't have to worry about having a buggy port.